It looks like I will have to get a source for brad point bits. I need to
get individual bits, starting with 1/8", 7/32", 13/64, 1/16, etc. I did not
think I would have so much trouble. Granger has none, McMaster-Carr has a
limited number and it goes on.
Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
individually in a wide range of sizes?
"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It looks like I will have to get a source for brad point bits. I need to
> get individual bits, starting with 1/8", 7/32", 13/64, 1/16, etc. I did
not
> think I would have so much trouble. Granger has none, McMaster-Carr has a
> limited number and it goes on.
>
> Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
> individually in a wide range of sizes?
>
>
Have you checked the local hardware store? The ACE Hardware a couple of
blocks from me has them individually and in sets.
Greg
I checked out both Lee Valley and W. L. Fuller (at Bits & Bores) as
well as reviews of both. It does look like those are the sources of
choice. Bits & Bores has lower shipping cost, but the bits are more
expensive. I wish that Lee Valley had lower shipping costs somehow.
The costs escalate as you buy more and even though I am a pretty heavy
buyer at Lee Valley, I have backed out more than once because the
shipping was a high percentage of the total purchase and I felt I could
wait until I had some necessary purchases. I wonder if Lee Valley
would find it an advantage to hit a "free shipping" level after a
certain dollar value purchase?
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:42:22 GMT, "U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles" <"Charles
Krug"@aol.com> wrote:
>Then Damlier Benz bought 'em and now MB outsources their skilled
>manufacturingn jobs . . . to the US.
An awful lot of Chrysler parts are made in Mexico. My '99 Jeep
Wrangler is full of them. The imported parts content is huge.
Barry
Eric Anderson asks:
>
>It looks like I will have to get a source for brad point bits. I need to
>get individual bits, starting with 1/8", 7/32", 13/64, 1/16, etc. I did not
>think I would have so much trouble. Granger has none, McMaster-Carr has a
>limited number and it goes on.
>
>Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
>individually in a wide range of sizes?
Lee Valley has the widest selection of excellent brad point bits of any company
I know of, in both inch and metric dimensions.
Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:00:49 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>www.leevally.com
Agree, don't buy from Harbor Freight they are off center!
"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
> individually in a wide range of sizes?
>
>
www.leevally.com
I bought a set and after it was opened I saw Chima. Terrible!!! Gave
them to our son and went to Lee Valley! Great.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 00:43:47 -0500, "Eric Anderson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You know, I was going to try the ACE. They did have some individual bits
>one time when I checked. They may have some brad points.
>
>"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > It looks like I will have to get a source for brad point bits. I need
>to
>> > get individual bits, starting with 1/8", 7/32", 13/64, 1/16, etc. I did
>> not
>> > think I would have so much trouble. Granger has none, McMaster-Carr has
>a
>> > limited number and it goes on.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
>> > individually in a wide range of sizes?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Have you checked the local hardware store? The ACE Hardware a couple of
>> blocks from me has them individually and in sets.
>> Greg
>>
>>
>
Make sure they are high speed steel and not carbon steel. I bought one of
those sets (carbon) and they are sharp, but quickly lost their edge.
max
>
> "Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
>> individually in a wide range of sizes?
>>
>>
> www.leevally.com
>
>
I bought a small Bosch set and they are excellent.
max
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:00:49 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> www.leevally.com
>
> Agree, don't buy from Harbor Freight they are off center!
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, "Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>It looks like I will have to get a source for brad point bits. I need to
>get individual bits, starting with 1/8", 7/32", 13/64, 1/16, etc. I did not
>think I would have so much trouble. Granger has none, McMaster-Carr has a
>limited number and it goes on.
>
>Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
>individually in a wide range of sizes?
>
Lee Valley (www.leevalley.com) or Woodcraft (www.woodcraft.com).
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In article <[email protected]>, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
>> individually in a wide range of sizes?
>>
>>
>www.leevally.com
Typo. Should be www.leevalley.com
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You know, I was going to try the ACE. They did have some individual bits
one time when I checked. They may have some brad points.
"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It looks like I will have to get a source for brad point bits. I need
to
> > get individual bits, starting with 1/8", 7/32", 13/64, 1/16, etc. I did
> not
> > think I would have so much trouble. Granger has none, McMaster-Carr has
a
> > limited number and it goes on.
> >
> > Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
> > individually in a wide range of sizes?
> >
> >
>
> Have you checked the local hardware store? The ACE Hardware a couple of
> blocks from me has them individually and in sets.
> Greg
>
>
Try Lee Valley.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=42247&category=1,180,42240&ccurrency=2&SID=
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"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It looks like I will have to get a source for brad point bits. I need to
> get individual bits, starting with 1/8", 7/32", 13/64, 1/16, etc. I did
> not
> think I would have so much trouble. Granger has none, McMaster-Carr has a
> limited number and it goes on.
>
> Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
> individually in a wide range of sizes?
>
>
In article <wghud.62515$l%[email protected]>,
"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Funny how country of origin rules work...! We start with normal made in USA
> twist drills (Triumph- made in USA), and re-grind the tips....since there's
> no "substantial transformation" - they retain the made in USA designation
> for the US market.
I'm a little confused. Is that the normal way that brad point bits are
made, by regrinding twist drill bits?
--
Hank Gillette
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:42:22 GMT, "U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles" <"Charles
Krug"@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>
>I call it "Lee's (Iacocca) Law."
>
>US carmakers want you to "Buy American." Understandable. BUT Chrysler
>moved a lot of engineering and manufacturing to Canada.
>
>So if you look at a car, it says "Proudly Made in the USA*," and if you
>follow the * down, it says, "Contains at least 50% US and Canadian
>content."
>
>All because Lee Iacocca wined and dined a few dozen Congresscritters.
>
>Then Damlier Benz bought 'em and now MB outsources their skilled
>manufacturingn jobs . . . to the US.
>
FWIW, the rules of origin for cars are special. (versus drill bits and 99%
of everything else) Just as they are special for cloth/clothing. Back
when there were quotas on Japanes cars, Detroit and the UAW tried to get
Japanese vans designated as cars so they would be under quotas -- even
though trucks carried a 20% duty, IIRC. Even with a 20% duty our guys had
trouble competing and wanted the # of imports simply cut.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:00:49 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
>> individually in a wide range of sizes?
>>
>>
>www.leevally.com
>
<http://www.leevalley.com>
Barry
"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Does anyone have a source for reasonable priced brad point bits sold
> individually in a wide range of sizes?
I like LV as much as most folks here, but I had a notion that WL Fuller was
also top-notch when it came to bits.
Unlike std twist bits, I considered by Brad Points to be an investment, and
I don't pull them out for just anything.
I bought my WL Fullers from: http://www.bitsnbores.com/
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:11:56 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yup - and they're made in USA too....right here in Ottawa Ontario, Canada.
>
>Funny how country of origin rules work...! We start with normal made in USA
>twist drills (Triumph- made in USA), and re-grind the tips....since there's
>no "substantial transformation" - they retain the made in USA designation
>for the US market.
>
>The same drills purchased from us in Canada are marked "Made in Canada" - as
>the value added component is more than 50% of the final cost...different
>rules, different country of origin....
>
Worrying about such rules used to be part of my day job, but that ended
around the time of the FTAs. Robin, that is a good story. Not as weird as
Chinatown (my daugher, my sister, my daughter, my sister), and not as funny
as Firesign Theater's "How can you be in 2 places at once when you're
really nowhere at all", but still a good story. -- Igor
<[email protected]> wrote in message
...
> I wonder if Lee Valley
> would find it an advantage to hit a "free shipping" level after a
> certain dollar value purchase?
>
Sure, all they have to do is raise their prices to cover it. If you go the
store and pick up an item yourself, do they give you gas money for going
there? Do they pay you mileage? Nothing is truly free.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
>
> Lee Valley has the widest selection of excellent brad point bits of any
company
> I know of, in both inch and metric dimensions.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
Yup - and they're made in USA too....right here in Ottawa Ontario, Canada.
Funny how country of origin rules work...! We start with normal made in USA
twist drills (Triumph- made in USA), and re-grind the tips....since there's
no "substantial transformation" - they retain the made in USA designation
for the US market.
The same drills purchased from us in Canada are marked "Made in Canada" - as
the value added component is more than 50% of the final cost...different
rules, different country of origin....
Cheers -
Rob
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:11:56 -0500, Robin Lee <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
><snip>
>>
>> Lee Valley has the widest selection of excellent brad point bits of any
> company
>> I know of, in both inch and metric dimensions.
>>
>> Charlie Self
>> "Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
>
>
>
> Yup - and they're made in USA too....right here in Ottawa Ontario, Canada.
>
> Funny how country of origin rules work...! We start with normal made in USA
> twist drills (Triumph- made in USA), and re-grind the tips....since there's
> no "substantial transformation" - they retain the made in USA designation
> for the US market.
>
> The same drills purchased from us in Canada are marked "Made in Canada" - as
> the value added component is more than 50% of the final cost...different
> rules, different country of origin....
>
I call it "Lee's (Iacocca) Law."
US carmakers want you to "Buy American." Understandable. BUT Chrysler
moved a lot of engineering and manufacturing to Canada.
So if you look at a car, it says "Proudly Made in the USA*," and if you
follow the * down, it says, "Contains at least 50% US and Canadian
content."
All because Lee Iacocca wined and dined a few dozen Congresscritters.
Then Damlier Benz bought 'em and now MB outsources their skilled
manufacturingn jobs . . . to the US.
In article <[email protected]>, Charlie Self
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not sure when Chrysler first outsourced from Canada, but it pre-dates
> Iacocca by one helluva number of years. My first Chrysler product, bought new
> at Northway Motors in Albany, NY, was a '67 Barracuda with an appreciable
> number of "Made in Canada" parts.
The Automotive Products Trade Agreement (Auto Pact) between Canada and
the USA dates to 1965.
Charles Krug notes:
>I call it "Lee's (Iacocca) Law."
>
>US carmakers want you to "Buy American." Understandable. BUT Chrysler
>moved a lot of engineering and manufacturing to Canada.
>
>So if you look at a car, it says "Proudly Made in the USA*," and if you
>follow the * down, it says, "Contains at least 50% US and Canadian
>content."
>
>All because Lee Iacocca wined and dined a few dozen Congresscritters.
>
>Then Damlier Benz bought 'em and now MB outsources their skilled
>manufacturingn jobs . . . to the US.
I'm not sure when Chrysler first outsourced from Canada, but it pre-dates
Iacocca by one helluva number of years. My first Chrysler product, bought new
at Northway Motors in Albany, NY, was a '67 Barracuda with an appreciable
number of "Made in Canada" parts.
If Daimler-Benz is outsourcing their skilled work to the same factory that
built my current Dodge Stratus, they are in a WORLD of hurt!
Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Charles Krug notes:
>
> >I call it "Lee's (Iacocca) Law."
> >
> >US carmakers want you to "Buy American." Understandable. BUT Chrysler
> >moved a lot of engineering and manufacturing to Canada.
> >
> >So if you look at a car, it says "Proudly Made in the USA*," and if you
> >follow the * down, it says, "Contains at least 50% US and Canadian
> >content."
> >
> >All because Lee Iacocca wined and dined a few dozen Congresscritters.
> >
> >Then Damlier Benz bought 'em and now MB outsources their skilled
> >manufacturingn jobs . . . to the US.
>
> I'm not sure when Chrysler first outsourced from Canada, but it pre-dates
> Iacocca by one helluva number of years. My first Chrysler product, bought
new
> at Northway Motors in Albany, NY, was a '67 Barracuda with an appreciable
> number of "Made in Canada" parts.
>
> If Daimler-Benz is outsourcing their skilled work to the same factory that
> built my current Dodge Stratus, they are in a WORLD of hurt!
Same as the IBM PCs. Most parts made in Mexico and they were pure junk.
> Charlie Self
> "Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
Bill Stock responds:
>> If Daimler-Benz is outsourcing their skilled work to the same factory that
>> built my current Dodge Stratus, they are in a WORLD of hurt!
>
>Same as the IBM PCs. Most parts made in Mexico and they were pure junk.
'S OK now, though. IBM sold about 82% of their PC outfit to a Chinese company.
Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bill Stock responds:
>
>>> If Daimler-Benz is outsourcing their skilled work to the same factory
>>> that
>>> built my current Dodge Stratus, they are in a WORLD of hurt!
>>
>>Same as the IBM PCs. Most parts made in Mexico and they were pure junk.
>
> 'S OK now, though. IBM sold about 82% of their PC outfit to a Chinese
> company.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain
see http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20041209.html for an
explanation as to why