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"trs80"

11/11/2006 9:37 AM

glass panel doors

I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I searched
the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.

Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
panels?

Thanks for any tips


This topic has 9 replies

Mi

"Mike in Arkansas"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

11/11/2006 8:18 PM


trs80 wrote:
>
> Thanks for any tips

Like Joe above I used the freud 99-270 divided lite bit set. A little
pricey and you will need to cut very accurately placed and sized
mortices for the tenons that this set leaves on the ends of the rails
and muntins. My doors are 9 lite in a craftsman style pattern making
20 mortices on each door. The July 2005 American Woodworker magazine
has an article on making divided light doors using this bit set. I'm
not sure I could have figured the process out without reading this
article. It explains how to accurately lay out the horizontal and
vertical muntins so everything fits together properly. It also shows
in detail how the bits work and the parts fit. I recommed the article
highly if you go this route. Also, If you do use this bit set I
recommend your door parts be thicker than 3/4 inch. More like 7/8
would be fine but less than that won't leave you much room behind the
glass for wood strips to hold in the panels. YMMV but those were my
results.
Mike in Arkansas (otherwise known as an Ozark American)

JP

"Jay Pique"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

12/11/2006 8:40 AM



On Nov 11, 12:37 pm, "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
> rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I searched
> the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.
>
> Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
> panels?
>
> Thanks for any tips

Check out the Oct./Nov. 2006 issue of Fine Homebuilding. They have an
article on building a divided lite storm sash (window) that could help.

JP

tt

"trs80"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

12/11/2006 9:24 PM

is this the type of cutter I need to make mullions? Its from MLCS and is a
3/16 cut I think. URL is below. thanks again!
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_match.html#miniature_Rail_&_Stile_Anchor


Miniature Matched Rail & Stile Cutters
for Glass Doors & Mullions

MLCS_matched_rail_&_stile_cutters_for_miniature_glass_doors_and_mullions

2 flute, carbide tipped. These rail and stile cutters are a matched two bit
set designed to give a smaller, shallow profile detail in a cabinet door.
Works great for making miniature glass doors, and divided lite doors with
narrow, delicate mullions. Depth of cut is 3/16". Use for 1/2" to 3/4"
stock.

Item # Profile Shank Size Regular Price
#8848 Ogee 1/2" $84.95 $59.95

"trs80" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
>rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I searched
>the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.
>
> Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
> panels?
>
> Thanks for any tips
>

TT

Test Tickle

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

11/11/2006 10:33 PM

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:37:22 -0800, "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
>rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I searched
>the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.
>
>Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
>panels?
>
>Thanks for any tips
>

Sommerfeld makes a very nice set. Try this:
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/products.asp?id=206

tt

tt

"trs80"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

13/11/2006 4:46 PM

Mike: How can I find this article in July 2005 woodworker?
thanks again!
"Mike in Arkansas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> trs80 wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for any tips
>
> Like Joe above I used the freud 99-270 divided lite bit set. A little
> pricey and you will need to cut very accurately placed and sized
> mortices for the tenons that this set leaves on the ends of the rails
> and muntins. My doors are 9 lite in a craftsman style pattern making
> 20 mortices on each door. The July 2005 American Woodworker magazine
> has an article on making divided light doors using this bit set. I'm
> not sure I could have figured the process out without reading this
> article. It explains how to accurately lay out the horizontal and
> vertical muntins so everything fits together properly. It also shows
> in detail how the bits work and the parts fit. I recommed the article
> highly if you go this route. Also, If you do use this bit set I
> recommend your door parts be thicker than 3/4 inch. More like 7/8
> would be fine but less than that won't leave you much room behind the
> glass for wood strips to hold in the panels. YMMV but those were my
> results.
> Mike in Arkansas (otherwise known as an Ozark American)
>

Ji

"Joe"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

11/11/2006 10:40 PM


"trs80" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:mTn5h.98723$%[email protected]...
>I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
>rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I searched
>the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.
>
> Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
> panels?
>
> Thanks for any tips
I used these, they worked very well (or maybe it was me....)

http://www.freudtools.com/woodworkers/rep/router_bits/Router_Bits/Cabinet_Door/html/Cabinet_Door_1.html

HTH,

Joe

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

11/11/2006 8:11 PM


"trs80" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:mTn5h.98723$%[email protected]...
>I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
>rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I searched
>the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.
>
> Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
> panels?
>
> Thanks for any tips
>

I use regular rail and stile bits. They cut a 1/4" groove but I then cut
the back side of the grove off up to where the tail and stile join. Dry fit
the pieces and mark the location of the joints. Doing it this way you can
assemble the rail and stile with out the glass. After the glue dries you
can drop the glass in from the back side and use 1/4 round nailed in with a
pinner. I make my own 1/4 rounds for this purpose.
If a piece of glass ever gets broken it is easily replaced.

Dd

"Dennis"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

12/11/2006 11:01 AM

Depending on whether you want to use a single sheet of glass, you can make
your divided four pane door using recessed wood strip dividers. You did not
mention the style of furniture or door, but this technique works well in
shaker and craftsman style doors. Take a look at my kitchen doors or the
door on the entertainment center on my site. If you have any questions, let
me know.

Dennis Slabaugh, Hobbyist Woodworker
www.woodworkinghobby.com




"trs80" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:mTn5h.98723$%[email protected]...
>I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
>rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I searched
>the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.
>
> Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
> panels?
>
> Thanks for any tips
>

tt

"trs80"

in reply to "trs80" on 11/11/2006 9:37 AM

12/11/2006 8:38 PM

thank you for the tips and yes I could use help. Mainly Im trying to
understand the rail and stile router bits to use.

I want the dividers to be 3/4 or 7/8 or else they will seem too large for
the cabinet...out of scale or proportion. Today I looked at the Rockler
store in stock rail and stile bits. Same bits as online (see link below).
The profile cut is 3/8. That seems much to large when done on either side
of a 3/4 or 7/8 wide divider. The divider ends up totally round or with a
1/8 flat strip when 7/8 wide so I did not buy these. Are there matching
rail and stile sets that have smaller profiles say on the order of 1/4 or
5/16?

thanks again for the help!

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?Offerings_ID=2145&SearchHandle=
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"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Depending on whether you want to use a single sheet of glass, you can make
> your divided four pane door using recessed wood strip dividers. You did
> not mention the style of furniture or door, but this technique works well
> in shaker and craftsman style doors. Take a look at my kitchen doors or
> the door on the entertainment center on my site. If you have any
> questions, let me know.
>
> Dennis Slabaugh, Hobbyist Woodworker
> www.woodworkinghobby.com
>
>
>
>
> "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:mTn5h.98723$%[email protected]...
>>I wan to make a cabinet door with 4 divided lites. Looks like I need a
>>rail and stile router set for that to use with my table router. I
>>searched the web but nothing on glass panel doors DIY.
>>
>> Can you point me or provide tips on how to make these doors with glass
>> panels?
>>
>> Thanks for any tips
>>
>
>


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