Hello all...I recently found a very cool picture of the house I grew up
in on Vashon-Maury Island, Washington. It has since been remodeled into
total submission, but it used to look like this:
http://www.meet-n-eat.com//home/images/myhouse.jpg
I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me the style of the
house, ie. Craftsman, whatever. It was built in 1910. Also, what would
you call the architectural detail above the angled (bay?) window?
Anything anyone can tell me would be much appreciated.
Cheers!
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I'd take a look at some of the Sears kit homes from that era.
They were typically of mixed styles, sometimes referred to as
"Vernacular".
On 3 Sep 2005 14:19:47 -0700, "Ned Sneed" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hello all...I recently found a very cool picture of the house I grew up
>in on Vashon-Maury Island, Washington. It has since been remodeled into
>total submission, but it used to look like this:
>
>http://www.meet-n-eat.com//home/images/myhouse.jpg
>
>I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me the style of the
>house, ie. Craftsman, whatever. It was built in 1910. Also, what would
>you call the architectural detail above the angled (bay?) window?
>Anything anyone can tell me would be much appreciated.
>
>Cheers!
>
>[email protected]
Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)
"Jois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Ned Sneed" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.meet-n-eat.com//home/images/myhouse.jpg
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me the style of the
> > > house, ie. Craftsman, whatever. It was built in 1910. Also, what would
> > > you call the architectural detail above the angled (bay?) window?
> > > Anything anyone can tell me would be much appreciated.
> >
> > It's of Victorian style. A modest, middle-class home of the time. The
> > Victorian influences are the spindle series above the entrance and the
> > corner bracket on the bay. By 1910 the Victorian style was well on its
> > way to being phased out, which may account for the lack of the typical
> > decorative wall shingle treatments and more brick-a-brack mouldings -
> > also those things added to the cost of the home so may have just been
> > omitted for economic reasons.
> >
> > There are no Craftsman, Bungalow or Prairie influences in there that I
> > can see.
> > --
> > Owen Lowe
>
> Houses that opened on the end (gable end like the one in the photo) were
> called "Gothic Revival" (GR) and were built all over New England (lots of
> other places, too but this is where I've seen lots of them). In my family
> we call them "the houses that were designed before architects had to have
> master's degrees." That "front door" opened onto a small square space and
> you could either go directly upstairs to the second floor or a little to
the
> left and into a central hallway or further left into the parlor or music
> room. There were two rooms on the left that often opened into each other
> and may have had pocket doors at one time. One might thave been "The
Front
> Parlor" and the other the sitting room.
>
> If you went down the hallway you'd probably be in the kitchen or maybe a
> dining room, if you were in the kitchen that second parlor may have been
> your dining room. If you were in the kitchen it was probably an add-on or
an
> "L".
>
> Often times there was a tiny room tucked between the back of the staircase
> and the kitchen just about useless space that seemed like a architect's
> error. Sometimes this was a small closet-like space that lead to the
cellar
> stairs. Sometimes the only way to get into the cellar was an outside
entry.
>
> Upstairs the area that was above the stairs and NOT used as a stairway
into
> the attic was another very tiny room that seemed like another architect's
> error. In my aunt's house this room was about 5x7' and had two doors. In
> another's house this room became a bathroom with a nice private staircase
to
> the attic.
>
> It's my understanding that many had some gingerbread type decorations on
the
> outside as your picture shows but most of the gingerbread was removed as
the
> houses got older and never replaced. Eventually the houses got extra
> porches and add-on "L"s and other structural changes that make them harder
> to identify at first glance but if you see a house with the front door on
> the gable end - you're looking at "Gothic Revival".
>
> These houses often had stained glass windows, I've seen them off that tiny
> room behind the stairs and at the top of the stairs, too. Your bay window
in
> front wasn't unusual in more citified locals and another bay window on the
> side if the second parlor was used for a dining room - I've seen that,
too.
> The insides of these houses always seemed dark to me, lotf of doors, too.
>
> In a New England farm house this would have been connected to other
> buildings and they usually followed a form that went like this: Big House,
> Little House, Back House, Barn.
>
> So the big house was the house itself
> the little house might be storage or an indoor spring well
> the back house was the outhouse
> and the barn, the barn.
>
> Are there buildings connected to the back of this house?
>
> Anyway, look up "Gothic Revival" on Google and you will see how your house
> has the doorway, lines and basic structure of the real McCoy.
>
> Josie
>
Must have been nap time - it's not "Gothic Revival" but late "Greek Revival"
and I had a very hard time finding the house style under either name. The
houses with a Google search for "Greek Revival" showed the larger and
fancier houses built before 1860 or so. Try:
http://www.adrianarchitecture.com/greek-revival.html
http://www.realviews.com/homes/cohgr.html
http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/hrb/prov/p075.html
Josie
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:48:34 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 19:51:31 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I'd take a look at some of the Sears kit homes from that era.
>>
>>They were typically of mixed styles, sometimes referred to as
>>"Vernacular".
>
>Vernacular ? In UK architectural langauge, that would be pretty much
>the opposite of anything ordered centrally, like Sears. Vernacular (as
>we use it) isn't a mixture, it's a local specialisation, often based on
>the use of local materials.
>
>As to the detail by th ebay, I'd describe it as "gingerbread" and a
>hangover from the Victorians, who went crazy for this stuff in huge
>quanitities.
>
"The term "vernacular architecture" applies to traditional domestic
and agricultural buildings, industrial and commercial structures,
twentieth-century suburban houses, settlement patterns and cultural
landscapes. The Vernacular Architecture Forum was formed in 1980 to
encourage the study and preservation of these informative and valuable
material resources."
http://www.sil.si.edu/research/internetresources/nmah/subject_guide_selected_nmah.cfm?main_heading=Design%20and%20Decorative%20Arts
"In 1914, Aladdin started publishing "Homecraft Market Place"
catalogue which included home furnishing products. This catalog only
lasted until 1918. Later, in 1949, Aladdin offered furnishings, such
as kitchen cabinets, oak flooring and such, through the mail. The
catalogues published by Aladdin "provide a record of the centurys
vernacular architecturethe styles that dominated farming communities
and factory towns" (Roth)."
http://www.fredbecker.org/News%20Letter/KitHomes.htm
Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)
"Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ned Sneed" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > http://www.meet-n-eat.com//home/images/myhouse.jpg
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me the style of the
> > house, ie. Craftsman, whatever. It was built in 1910. Also, what would
> > you call the architectural detail above the angled (bay?) window?
> > Anything anyone can tell me would be much appreciated.
>
> It's of Victorian style. A modest, middle-class home of the time. The
> Victorian influences are the spindle series above the entrance and the
> corner bracket on the bay. By 1910 the Victorian style was well on its
> way to being phased out, which may account for the lack of the typical
> decorative wall shingle treatments and more brick-a-brack mouldings -
> also those things added to the cost of the home so may have just been
> omitted for economic reasons.
>
> There are no Craftsman, Bungalow or Prairie influences in there that I
> can see.
> --
> Owen Lowe
Houses that opened on the end (gable end like the one in the photo) were
called "Gothic Revival" (GR) and were built all over New England (lots of
other places, too but this is where I've seen lots of them). In my family
we call them "the houses that were designed before architects had to have
master's degrees." That "front door" opened onto a small square space and
you could either go directly upstairs to the second floor or a little to the
left and into a central hallway or further left into the parlor or music
room. There were two rooms on the left that often opened into each other
and may have had pocket doors at one time. One might thave been "The Front
Parlor" and the other the sitting room.
If you went down the hallway you'd probably be in the kitchen or maybe a
dining room, if you were in the kitchen that second parlor may have been
your dining room. If you were in the kitchen it was probably an add-on or an
"L".
Often times there was a tiny room tucked between the back of the staircase
and the kitchen just about useless space that seemed like a architect's
error. Sometimes this was a small closet-like space that lead to the cellar
stairs. Sometimes the only way to get into the cellar was an outside entry.
Upstairs the area that was above the stairs and NOT used as a stairway into
the attic was another very tiny room that seemed like another architect's
error. In my aunt's house this room was about 5x7' and had two doors. In
another's house this room became a bathroom with a nice private staircase to
the attic.
It's my understanding that many had some gingerbread type decorations on the
outside as your picture shows but most of the gingerbread was removed as the
houses got older and never replaced. Eventually the houses got extra
porches and add-on "L"s and other structural changes that make them harder
to identify at first glance but if you see a house with the front door on
the gable end - you're looking at "Gothic Revival".
These houses often had stained glass windows, I've seen them off that tiny
room behind the stairs and at the top of the stairs, too. Your bay window in
front wasn't unusual in more citified locals and another bay window on the
side if the second parlor was used for a dining room - I've seen that, too.
The insides of these houses always seemed dark to me, lotf of doors, too.
In a New England farm house this would have been connected to other
buildings and they usually followed a form that went like this: Big House,
Little House, Back House, Barn.
So the big house was the house itself
the little house might be storage or an indoor spring well
the back house was the outhouse
and the barn, the barn.
Are there buildings connected to the back of this house?
Anyway, look up "Gothic Revival" on Google and you will see how your house
has the doorway, lines and basic structure of the real McCoy.
Josie
In article <[email protected]>,
"Ned Sneed" <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.meet-n-eat.com//home/images/myhouse.jpg
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me the style of the
> house, ie. Craftsman, whatever. It was built in 1910. Also, what would
> you call the architectural detail above the angled (bay?) window?
> Anything anyone can tell me would be much appreciated.
It's of Victorian style. A modest, middle-class home of the time. The
Victorian influences are the spindle series above the entrance and the
corner bracket on the bay. By 1910 the Victorian style was well on its
way to being phased out, which may account for the lack of the typical
decorative wall shingle treatments and more brick-a-brack mouldings -
also those things added to the cost of the home so may have just been
omitted for economic reasons.
There are no Craftsman, Bungalow or Prairie influences in there that I
can see.
--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 19:51:31 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'd take a look at some of the Sears kit homes from that era.
>
>They were typically of mixed styles, sometimes referred to as
>"Vernacular".
Vernacular ? In UK architectural langauge, that would be pretty much
the opposite of anything ordered centrally, like Sears. Vernacular (as
we use it) isn't a mixture, it's a local specialisation, often based on
the use of local materials.
As to the detail by th ebay, I'd describe it as "gingerbread" and a
hangover from the Victorians, who went crazy for this stuff in huge
quanitities.