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"R.H."

29/11/2007 4:01 AM

What is it? CCVIII

This week's set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/



Rob


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axolotl

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 7:40 AM

R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:

1154) Timber boring machine.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 2:01 PM

In article <[email protected]>, R.H.
<[email protected]> wrote:

> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>

I wonder if 1155 isn't an early curling iron, perhaps even for show
horse manes? I assume it heats up...

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"Robbo"

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 8:55 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 1155 Guess: Tire groove maker. To cut or deepen grooves in (possibly
> retreaded) tires.
>
>
> "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> This week's set has just been posted:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>


1157 Veterinarians surgical tool for circumcising cattle

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 6:23 PM


> 1155 Guess: Tire groove maker. To cut or deepen grooves in (possibly
> retreaded) tires.


I haven't been able to find one like it, but this is probably correct,
anyone know what the piece is in the lower left of the box?


Rob



>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 6:32 PM


> And a boiler sight glass cutter, real hardware stores still have these
> and will cut a sght glass for you for a couple dollars.


This is correct, anyone know what the notch with the small spike is for?
I'm guessing it's used to remove excess glass if you didn't get a clean
break, but that would require very thin glass. The notch measures 1/8"
long. The patent for the tool can be seen here:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=NxZ2AAAAEBAJ&dq=483778



Rob

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 9:06 PM


> 1156...would like to see the back if it....looks like a lemon squeezer
> from
> the pic.



I don't own this piece so I can't post a photo of the back, but I can tell
you that it's not a lemon squeezer or a tool of any kind.


Rob

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 5:00 PM


"Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:23:56 -0500, "R.H."
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>> 1155 Guess: Tire groove maker. To cut or deepen grooves in (possibly
>>> retreaded) tires.
>>
>>
>>I haven't been able to find one like it, but this is probably correct,
>>anyone know what the piece is in the lower left of the box?
>>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Here are some similar tools via patents:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2230042
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2222036
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2097811
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2031472
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=1926520


Thanks, I added one of your links to the answer page:

http://pzphotosan208z1.blogspot.com/


Also thanks to those who helped solve the tire groover, I didn't know what
that one was when I posted it.


Rob

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 8:32 PM


"Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> R.H. wrote:
>>
>
>> Thanks, I added one of your links to the answer page:
>>
>> http://pzphotosan208z1.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> 1158 -- Carriage jack! Who would have guessed?
>
> It was invented by James B. Foot of the Combination Wrench and Jack
> Company. The patent says he designed it to be ornamental and the user
> should be able to see how to use it.


This tool was mounted onto a piece of wood along with some information about
it, including this drawing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/pic1158j.jpg


Below is a later patent by the same inventor, this one has a lubricator as
part of the jack. Somewhere on the web I saw a reference to this jack as a
wheel holder, this is shown in the patent drawings:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=KyxnAAAAEBAJ&dq=662715



Rob

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 6:45 AM

1154. Hand cranked beam mortiser. You stand or sit on the plate and
turn the cranks to hog out the center of the mortise which is then
cleaned up with chisels and a bruzz.
1155. Looks old to be one, but it appears to be a hot knife for
cutting varying depth grooves in foam plastic.
1156. World's smallest folding boot jack, or a really stupid cigar
ashtray.
1157. Candle cutter.
1158. Possibly a tire installation/removal tool.
1159. Maybe a glass rod or tube cutter.

R

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 1:03 AM

On 29 Nov, 14:45, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1154. Hand cranked beam mortiser. You stand or sit on the plate and
> turn the cranks to hog out the center of the mortise which is then
> cleaned up with chisels and a bruzz.

What's a "bruzz" ? I'm curious of the etymology of this term.

AFAIK (in the UK, as a some-time working framer), wheelwrights used a
tool called a bruzz, but framers never referred to it as such. The
wheelwright's tool has a 60=B0 angle to the corner, the framer's corner
chisel was 90=B0. I've never seen a framer use a corner chisel that
wasn't such a right angle.

Do any of the world's square-cornered framers use the term "bruzz"?

Just what is it that wheelwrights do with these acute-angled chisels?

or

"osmium"

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

01/12/2007 9:23 AM

1157. Cuts the shell of a hard boiled egg.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 6:35 AM

On Nov 30, 4:03 am, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 29 Nov, 14:45, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > 1154. Hand cranked beam mortiser. You stand or sit on the plate and
> > turn the cranks to hog out the center of the mortise which is then
> > cleaned up with chisels and a bruzz.
>
> What's a "bruzz" ? I'm curious of the etymology of this term.
>
> AFAIK (in the UK, as a some-time working framer), wheelwrights used a
> tool called a bruzz, but framers never referred to it as such. The
> wheelwright's tool has a 60=B0 angle to the corner, the framer's corner
> chisel was 90=B0. I've never seen a framer use a corner chisel that
> wasn't such a right angle.
>
> Do any of the world's square-cornered framers use the term "bruzz"?
>
> Just what is it that wheelwrights do with these acute-angled chisels?

I am not going to hazard what people do with a chisel that they find
"cute". It would be ungentlemanly!

A bruzz is a large corner chisel used in timber framing. There are
many names:
http://www.loghelp.com/logcore/07/fall/fall07ho.html

R

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 9:31 AM

On 30 Nov, 14:35, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:

> A bruzz is a large corner chisel used in timber framing.

I've _never_ heard any real framer refer to one as such. I don't know
if this just a UK distinction, but round here the name at least is
just a wheelwright's term.

s

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 6:10 AM

On Nov 29, 4:01 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob



1155- tire groover.

1157- I have no idea, just keep it right the hell away!


Dave

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 4:51 AM

On 29 Nov, 09:01, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

#1154
Timber framer's drills.

#1155
Heated cutter for re-grooving tread in worn truck tyres.

#1157
Boiled egg opener

#1159
Glass tube cutter, used for making standard lengths oof lab glassware

BB

"Brent Beal"

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 5:05 PM


"might they call #1157.....the "Bobbit" tool/ OUCH!!!!
1154 Boring machines for peg holes in the beams used in timberframing
1156...would like to see the back if it....looks like a lemon squeezer from
the pic.

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 11:01 AM

1155 Guess: Tire groove maker. To cut or deepen grooves in (possibly
retreaded) tires.


"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob

BR

Bill Rider

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 7:16 PM

R.H. wrote:
>

> Thanks, I added one of your links to the answer page:
>
> http://pzphotosan208z1.blogspot.com/
>

1158 -- Carriage jack! Who would have guessed?

It was invented by James B. Foot of the Combination Wrench and Jack
Company. The patent says he designed it to be ornamental and the user
should be able to see how to use it.

RT

Rich The Newsgroup Wacko

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

05/12/2007 6:45 PM

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:05:52 -0500, Brent Beal wrote:

> "might they call #1157.....the "Bobbit" tool/ OUCH!!!!

I heard he got a new job, working for Snap-on Tools. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

BR

Bill Rider

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 10:25 PM

R.H. wrote:
>
> "Bill Rider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:KJ14j.23838$L%[email protected]...
>> R.H. wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Thanks, I added one of your links to the answer page:
>>>
>>> http://pzphotosan208z1.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>> 1158 -- Carriage jack! Who would have guessed?
>>
>> It was invented by James B. Foot of the Combination Wrench and Jack
>> Company. The patent says he designed it to be ornamental and the user
>> should be able to see how to use it.
>
>
> This tool was mounted onto a piece of wood along with some information
> about it, including this drawing:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/album%207/pic1158j.jpg
>
>
> Below is a later patent by the same inventor, this one has a lubricator
> as part of the jack. Somewhere on the web I saw a reference to this
> jack as a wheel holder, this is shown in the patent drawings:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?id=KyxnAAAAEBAJ&dq=662715
>
>
>
> Rob

Thanks. So the end of the lower bar has internal threads to cradle the
stud at the end of an axle. I think it wouldn't work right except for a
certain pitch and diameter, yet he says the wrench is for nuts of
various sizes. Apparently a spring is all that holds the jaws
against the nut. I wonder how well that worked.

I guess the jack was just to be able to move the wheel far enough for
lubrication.

HR

Howard R Garner

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 6:49 AM

R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob

Only one idea this week.

1154 for drilling hole for pegs in post and beam barn type construction

Howard Garner

LF

Leon Fisk

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 3:57 PM

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:23:56 -0500, "R.H."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> 1155 Guess: Tire groove maker. To cut or deepen grooves in (possibly
>> retreaded) tires.
>
>
>I haven't been able to find one like it, but this is probably correct,
>anyone know what the piece is in the lower left of the box?
>

Hi Rob,

Here are some similar tools via patents:

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2230042
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2222036
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2097811
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2031472
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=1926520


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RicodJour

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 9:49 AM

On Nov 30, 12:31 pm, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 30 Nov, 14:35, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A bruzz is a large corner chisel used in timber framing.
>
> I've _never_ heard any real framer refer to one as such. I don't know
> if this just a UK distinction, but round here the name at least is
> just a wheelwright's term.

I'm sure I'll run across something I've never heard before, but I'm
not sure what it'll be. ;) I've never heard, nor met, a wheelwright,
and know little about tool terminology outside the US, so I'm sure
your wheelwright reference is correct.

This from the Classic Hand Tool site in the UK:

Robert Sorby Heavy Duty Corner Chisel
Ref: RS287
A heavyweight 1" (25mm) wide bruzz (corner chisel) for cleaning up
deep corners of mortises.- Ash Handle
Overall Size:- 380-407mm
Blade Length 239mm
Price: =A378.50 (Including VAT at 17.5%)

R

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beecrofter

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 10:55 AM

On Nov 29, 4:01 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

Coffee Mill type drill used to bore out mortices in timber frames.

And a boiler sight glass cutter, real hardware stores still have these
and will cut a sght glass for you for a couple dollars.

Pp

Paul

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 9:26 AM


1154 The original mag base drill, before magnetism was invented...

Paul

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in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

29/11/2007 7:16 PM

#1158 looks like a variation of the famous cat carrier:

http://dbhs.wvusd.k12.ca.us/webdocs/Humor/cat-carrier.jpg

B.

"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "R.H." on 29/11/2007 4:01 AM

30/11/2007 2:55 AM

On 2007-11-29, R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as usual.

1154) These are for drilling holes in large wooden beams
perhaps for building large structures on land, or perhaps
for building large boat frames. (There are similar tools fro
drilling metal, but these have wood bits (where they have any),
so thus my selection of project materials.

You either kneel on the paddle, or clamp it in place with large
C-clamps.

The metalworking ones, at least, are geared to feed as they cut,
picking up both from the main hand crank. The middle one in the
top photo appears to be similarly set up -- but unfortuately,
the details are lost in the black of the photos.

1155) I would like to see more detail of the small parts in the
upper left-hand corner of the box -- but I think that it is some
kind of tool for burning words or symbols into wood. At least,
the shank appears to be of a soldering-iron style and I see
nothing else to be powered. It looks as though the end can
clamp a row of metal type -- which may be pre-set in those
things to the upper right. Also -- is there anything under the
triangular filler in the box's upper-right-hand corner?

1156) No clue on this one. :-)

1157) My guess here is that this is for cutting the foil around a
wine bottle's neck prior to applying a corkscrew.

1158) Again, no real guess -- other than as a rather strange frame
for holding something like a hacksaw blade. Not sure what the
square at the end opposite the handle is supposed to hold.

1159) This appears to be for scribing the inside diameter of glass
tubing prior to breaking it to length. There is a depth stop,
and a sliding latch which applys pressure to the cutting wheel,
but I have no idea what benefit you can get from scribing the ID
instead of the OD prior to breaking it. I would think that it
would not provide as clean a start to the break.

Now to see what others have guessed.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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