Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
40% off!
Example: 40" for 26.99
"While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
fiasco a while back.
Personally, I intend to blow $200 on this
deal (if I get a chance).
Lou
In article <[email protected]>, Gary <
[email protected]> wrote:
> "James T. Kirby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > loutent wrote:
> >>
> > Did all the math yesterday - of course, LV constrains you into buying a
> > certain
> > set of clamps, and the overlap with Woodcraft isn't complete since
> > Woodcraft is selling 41"'ers
> > while LV is selling 50"'ers, but
> >
> > LV: 2-24" + 2-50" + shipping to your door = 98.50
> > WC: 2-24" + 2-41" + your gas = 97.00 + your gas
> >
> > Given the present world we live in, LV won and the clamps are bigger.
> >
> I ordered 2 sets of the 24 and 50 inchers from LV on Sunday afternoon. I
> got an email today (Tuesday) that they just shipped FedEx and should arrive
> at my home in Virginia Thursday. Total cost = $190.00 ($23.75 per clamp
> delivered)
>
> Seems like a good deal to me.
>
> Gary
>
Hi Gary,
That's a great deal. I ordered 2 of the 12/24 sets (LV) last week on
Thursday and got them Saturday (FedEx). $162 for 8 Bessey's
($20.25 ea with shipping).
Don't get much better than that.
Ordering more later this month.
Building a new clamp rack to accomodate.
Fun stuff!
Lou
> My first set of K-bodies was bought using the now discredited thinking
> that "you can clamp 12 with a 40 but not 40 with a 12." And 40 seemed
> a better choice than 50 at that point (I can't even recall if 50s were
> available to me then). On virtually my very first glue up I discovered
> what the other poster described, including the jab in the solar
> plexus. I immediately ordered a couple (or more) 24" clamps.
>
> It wasn't until much later that I had a need for something greater
> than 40" so then I got a couple of 50". I've since added several 40s
> and a whole lot of 24s. Still only have two 50s, I think.
>
> Further to the hinderance, you're right--10" wouldn't be much of a
> hindrance if you were using your 50"s to clamp a 39" project. But if
> you were clamping a 32" project (too big for any 31"ers you might
> have) you'd be a whole lot happier having 8" sticking out from the
> glueup than 18". And if you didn't have 31s and were trying to clamp
> up a 25" job, you'd have two feet of bars waiting to attack you all
> around the work area instead of 15", so, yes, that extra 10" can be
> significant.
Hi LRod,
I totally agree.
I have a bunch of pipes and a few Bessey's (well, 12 so far,
4-12's, 6-24's and 2-40's). I seem to use the 24's most
often, but since I picked up the 12's just a week ago (LV), I have
used them twice already.
It's not always about size.
I would like to pick up another bunch of 12's and 24's - and
maybe a couple of 40's & 50's before the end of the month.
SWMBO is looking askance at the moment...
:-(
Lou
In article <[email protected]>, Bill Davis Jr
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Well I did it. I order my first set of Bessey clamps from LV.
>
> I ordered 2 sets of 25/50. This weekend I may drive down to my local
> Woodcraft and see about getting some more 25's and a couple 40's.
>
> Bill
Hi Bill,
Welcome to the "club" ...it will go on and on...it's an
obsession.
The Bessey's will change your concept of
what a good clamp should be. Using them is
like handling a fine piece of machinery - plus
they actually help to do a better glue-up.
You poor bastard!
Happy clamping.
Lou
"loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:260920051734176767%[email protected]...
> > Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
> fiasco a while back.
>
>Would anyone really expect them to own up to a screw up!
By, the way. Even though I said I would have no further comment I guess
I lied.
I just wanted that store to know that in that year alone from the point
it opened. I spent approx. $3800.00 in tools and supplies. None of
which was spent at their store. And, some of which in the years after
that (which by the way was many more dollars the above) was not spent
at all at Rockler because Pasadena was to far to drive for the time
frame I needed them in.
Oh, well so much for customer relations.
Roy
John,
While not part of the Rockler Clamp Fiasco. And, while Rockler did say
in there advertising "While Supplies Last". I do believe from reading
some of those posts the guys that did get down there right away still
lost out because Rockler must not have ordered enough for the sale.
And, the buyers were lead along by some of the less-then-dim-witted
sales/managers in the stores.
After my experience an offical from the main office did try to buy my
unhappiness away. I appreciated the effort on their part to try to
smooth customer problems. But, my feeling is as in anyplace I deal
with. Some stores run well, some don't. Usually because it's the people
who work there.
Roy
Just an FYI - We remember the Adjustable Clamp sale better than most of
you do, and it's not deja vue all over again. Stores are reordering
after the initial draw and we'll be honoring all catalog and internet
sales placed during the promotion (til the end of the month). Bessey
has promised us full support on this one. Right now we have plenty of
stock to cover ourselves.
As for Madison, my guess is that the guy you spoke to didn't realize
that more were already on order.
Ken
Corporate Shill
James T. Kirby wrote:
> LV: 2-24" + 2-50" + shipping to your door = 98.50
> WC: 2-24" + 2-41" + your gas = 97.00 + your gas
>
> Given the present world we live in, LV won and the clamps are bigger.
>
> JK
Depends on what you want. I only want 24" ones now (got plenty of the
longer ones). Bought five 24" on the woodcraft sale from the internet.
Shipping was about $11 or $12, (about what sales tax would've been).
Also, if you order over $100 on the web, they give you a free
subscription to their magazine. Hopefully the woodcraft website will
honor the order, otherwise, I'll check out Lee Valley, I guess. I do
appreciate the news of it, but since I have over 40 K-bodies (and about
35 pipe clamps) already, I really don't "need" any more.
It's personal preference. If I was forced to buy a set with longer
clamps, I'd rather have the 41" than the 50". 90% of the time, I'm
gluing something narrower than 24". It's kind of a pain having the
extra length sticking out.
Ken Kupsche wrote:
> Just an FYI - We remember the Adjustable Clamp sale better than most of
> you do, and it's not deja vue all over again. Stores are reordering
> after the initial draw and we'll be honoring all catalog and internet
> sales placed during the promotion (til the end of the month). Bessey
> has promised us full support on this one. Right now we have plenty of
> stock to cover ourselves.
>
> Ken
> Corporate Shill
Thanks for the update Ken. My local store was sold out, and I can
definitely understand that they told me to check back later, but there
were no guarantees. (I wouldn't want to be the salesman that promised
there would be more Besseys only to have the guy come back and the
clamps are sold out again). Nice to know that the web order is going to
be filled for sure. Thanks.
Yeah, I'll ditto that. In fact it's more than a nuisance, after ducking
under and walking around the thing for the whole time and then right
about when you're done, you turn around and stab yourself in the solar
plexus with one of those things. Once you've done one whole glue-up
with the right size clamps everywhere, the little light bulb goes off.
"Hey. This is a whole lot more fun!"
It's definitely doable but I still don't have enough clamps.
In article <[email protected]>, George <George@least> wrote:
> "leonard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Just got mine in Baltimore's woodcraft. they sold most of there stock
> > already and were arguing about if to order 50 or 100 more.
> >
>
> Doggone. Didn't think they'd be jumping the gun that much. SWMBO
> authorized, and her sister will go to the Canton Woodcraft store tomorrow.
> Hope they have some left.
>
>
If they don't, check out LV. They will fill
every order until Oct 31st. Also, you will save
a little gas.
Lou
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I asked about that at Rockler early last week and they (the manager, in
> fact) had not a clue what I was talking about.
I think we shop the same store - the outside world, the shop in houston, and
the Rockler website have no connection to each other, or at least it seems
that way at times. They have sales that are never on the website and they
frequently don't know what's on sale at the website, though they will honor
the web price when you call it to their attention.
Bob
"leonard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Just got mine in Baltimore's woodcraft. they sold most of there stock
> already and were arguing about if to order 50 or 100 more.
>
Doggone. Didn't think they'd be jumping the gun that much. SWMBO
authorized, and her sister will go to the Canton Woodcraft store tomorrow.
Hope they have some left.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In fact it's more than a nuisance, after ducking
> under and walking around the thing for the whole time and then right
> about when you're done, you turn around and stab yourself in the solar
> plexus with one of those things.
Or step back from one and gore yourself on another.
Or try to set the several clamp-ups aside and have them tipping over because
of the long leverage on the big clamps.
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
yes, that extra 10" can be
> significant.
>
Well said. Now what exactly were you referring to?
Why would one buy 40" inch clamps? Wouldn't one be better off buying the
50's? I can't see where 10" more would be a hindrance.
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:38:08 -0400, "Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You can use a 50" clamp in most cases where a 12" one would do, albeit
> >clumsy. But you can never use a 12" where a 13" to 50" clamp is called
for.
>
> Maybe so, but in 100 opportunities to use a 50" K-body on a 13"
> clamping project, at least 99 times you will seek an alternative
> method. Clumsy doesn't begin to describe it.
>
> As someone who went through an entire education experience (and 100s
> of $) refining the clamp acquisition process, I can assure you of
> several things:
>
> 24" clamps are the best choice for your initial purchase.
>
> At some point you will be happy to have a couple of 40" clamps.
>
> At some further point you will be happy to have a couple of 50"
> clamps.
>
> At some point you will be happy to have a couple of 12" clamps.
>
> Clamps must be bought in pairs to avoid upsetting the balance of the
> universe. It's just wrong to have an odd number of clamps.
>
> You will be unable to resist clamp purchases at bargain prices until
> sometime past the two dozen mark.
>
> You will continue to yearn for more clamps even after three dozen, but
> you will find it easier to resist buying them.
>
>
> --
> LRod
>
> Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
> Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
> http://www.woodbutcher.net
>
> Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
That's cause a bunch of guys who didn't read the caveats about the sale at
Rockler last year or so got mad when they didn't get the clamps they wanted
at the price they wanted to pay.
Rockler's ad clearly stated that it was a limited amount and a limited time
offer. The folks complaining either didn't get to the store in time or
wanted to buy them on their own time frame, they also seemed to expect that
Bessey would just keep sending Rockler the clamps at the discounted prices
until the person complaining had time to go and get some.
It was never Rockler's fault that a few guys who failed to read the ad in
question didn't get the clamps at the sale price.
John Emmons
"BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:KPb_e.4452$211.2423@trnddc08...
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "loutent" wrote in message
> > > Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
> > > their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
>
> The sale is at Woodcraft from the post.... the rest of this thread talks
> about Rockler - no wonder no one know about it there. . .
>
> BB
>
>
> > >
> > > 40% off!
> > >
> > > Example: 40" for 26.99
> > >
> > > "While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
> > >
> > > Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
> > > fiasco a while back.
> >
> > I asked about that at Rockler early last week and they (the manager, in
> > fact) had not a clue what I was talking about.
> >
> > --
> > www.e-woodshop.net
> > Last update: 9/17/05
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
George wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> In fact it's more than a nuisance, after ducking
>
>>under and walking around the thing for the whole time and then right
>>about when you're done, you turn around and stab yourself in the solar
>>plexus with one of those things.
>
>
> Or step back from one and gore yourself on another.
>
> Or try to set the several clamp-ups aside and have them tipping over because
> of the long leverage on the big clamps.
>
>
>
If someone would invent a Bessy K body-like clamp that weighed much
less, I'd pay a premium. I started buying their lighter and shorter
version (gray plastic). can't remember their name.
Dave
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "loutent" wrote in message
> > Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
> > their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
The sale is at Woodcraft from the post.... the rest of this thread talks
about Rockler - no wonder no one know about it there. . .
BB
> >
> > 40% off!
> >
> > Example: 40" for 26.99
> >
> > "While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
> >
> > Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
> > fiasco a while back.
>
> I asked about that at Rockler early last week and they (the manager, in
> fact) had not a clue what I was talking about.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 9/17/05
>
>
>
>
Scott wrote:
> Why would one buy 40" inch clamps? Wouldn't one be better off buying the
> 50's? I can't see where 10" more would be a hindrance.
>
>
> "LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:38:08 -0400, "Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You can use a 50" clamp in most cases where a 12" one would do, albeit
>>>clumsy. But you can never use a 12" where a 13" to 50" clamp is called
>
> for.
>
>>Maybe so, but in 100 opportunities to use a 50" K-body on a 13"
>>clamping project, at least 99 times you will seek an alternative
>>method. Clumsy doesn't begin to describe it.
>>
>>As someone who went through an entire education experience (and 100s
>>of $) refining the clamp acquisition process, I can assure you of
>>several things:
>>
>>24" clamps are the best choice for your initial purchase.
>>
>>At some point you will be happy to have a couple of 40" clamps.
>>
>>At some further point you will be happy to have a couple of 50"
>>clamps.
>>
>>At some point you will be happy to have a couple of 12" clamps.
>>
>>Clamps must be bought in pairs to avoid upsetting the balance of the
>>universe. It's just wrong to have an odd number of clamps.
>>
>>You will be unable to resist clamp purchases at bargain prices until
>>sometime past the two dozen mark.
>>
>>You will continue to yearn for more clamps even after three dozen, but
>>you will find it easier to resist buying them.
>>
>>
>>--
>>LRod
>>
>>Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>>
>>Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>>
>>http://www.woodbutcher.net
>>
>>Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
>
>
>
I always use the shortest clamps I can. It's a nuisance to have clamps
sticking out every which way. YMMV.
Dave
From the Lee Valley Website:
During the month of October, Bessey Tools North America will offer
pre-packaged clamp kits at a significant discount from the same clamps
purchased individually. Check back here October 1, 2005 for the details.
"loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:260920051734176767%[email protected]...
> Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
> their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
>
> 40% off!
>
> Example: 40" for 26.99
>
> "While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
>
> Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
> fiasco a while back.
>
> Personally, I intend to blow $200 on this
> deal (if I get a chance).
>
> Lou
Hi -
We'll be posting pricing to our website by the weekend...
As far as our sale goes - no need to panic... we have lots of stock now
(don't know what anyone else has....)...
Our kits will be 2 each of the 12"/24" clamps (4 total), or two each of the
24"/50" clamps (not the 41" like last time!) ....neither set will have a
price more than 2 digits(in USD), and we will fill all orders taken during
the month of October...
Cheers -
Rob
"Buster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Mh5_e.267115$Hk.131504@pd7tw1no...
> From the Lee Valley Website:
> During the month of October, Bessey Tools North America will offer
> pre-packaged clamp kits at a significant discount from the same clamps
> purchased individually. Check back here October 1, 2005 for the details.
>
> "loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:260920051734176767%[email protected]...
> > Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
> > their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
> >
> > 40% off!
> >
> > Example: 40" for 26.99
> >
> > "While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
> >
> > Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
> > fiasco a while back.
> >
> > Personally, I intend to blow $200 on this
> > deal (if I get a chance).
> >
> > Lou
>
>
"NOTME" <zeddrei AT hotmail DOT com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well I got my set of 12/24s and 24/50s from LV today. No catalog though,
> this makes me sad.
<snip>
Hi -
It makes me sad that you're sad...
Send me your address, and we can both be glad....
Cheers -
Rob
"BillyBob" wrote in message
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> >
> > "loutent" wrote in message
> > > Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
> > > their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
>
> The sale is at Woodcraft from the post.... the rest of this thread talks
> about Rockler - no wonder no one know about it there. . .
Generally everyone who sells Bessey is involved in these clamp "anniversary
sales", Rockler included ... see the recent post from Rob at Lee Valley.
--
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:bIadnTC_i8hC66XeRVn-
[email protected]:
>
> "loutent" wrote in message
>> Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
>> their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
>>
>> 40% off!
>>
>> Example: 40" for 26.99
>>
>> "While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
>>
>> Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
>> fiasco a while back.
>
> I asked about that at Rockler early last week and they (the manager, in
> fact) had not a clue what I was talking about.
>
Rockler managers aren't told very much, very often.
Patriarch
On Sun 02 Oct 2005 08:49:07a, "James T. Kirby" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Did all the math yesterday - of course, LV constrains you into buying
> a certain set of clamps, and the overlap with Woodcraft isn't complete
> since Woodcraft is selling 41"'ers
> while LV is selling 50"'ers, but
> LV: 2-24" + 2-50" + shipping to your door = 98.50
> WC: 2-24" + 2-41" + your gas = 97.00 + your gas
> Given the present world we live in, LV won and the clamps are bigger.
The Madison WI woodcraft isn't that far away and they're doing a
woodworking show this weekend, so I went out Saturday and bought two of
each. Plus one foot mat.
I was talking to the sales guy and he says the sale lasts until the end of
the month "or until this pile is gone, whichever comes first".
I say, "How many were there yesterday when you opened the show?" He says,
"About twice this many. Actually a little more'n that." "Ah. And how many
have you sold since you opened ten minutes ago?" "Counting yours? About
eight I think."
"And the sale lasts a month OR until this here pile is gone."
"Yep."
We both had a good chuckle about that and then moved on.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:34:17 -0400, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
>their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
>
>40% off!
>
>Example: 40" for 26.99
>
>"While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
>
>Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
>fiasco a while back.
It's true - I picked up a 24" and 40" last weekend when I stumbled
into my local Woodcraft (Downingtown PA). Excellent pricing and they
had a TON of them in stock.
Unfortunately, my SO was with me, so spending next month's paycheck a
little early was out of the question..
-Zig
"loutent" wrote in message
> Just got a flyer from Woodcraft. Bessey is celebrating
> their 25th K Body anniversary starting Oct 1.
>
> 40% off!
>
> Example: 40" for 26.99
>
> "While supplies last" is the disclaimer.
>
> Hope this doesn't turn out like the Rockler
> fiasco a while back.
I asked about that at Rockler early last week and they (the manager, in
fact) had not a clue what I was talking about.
--
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Last update: 9/17/05
loutent wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, George <George@least> wrote:
>
> If they don't, check out LV. They will fill
> every order until Oct 31st. Also, you will save
> a little gas.
>
> Lou
Did all the math yesterday - of course, LV constrains you into buying a certain
set of clamps, and the overlap with Woodcraft isn't complete since Woodcraft is
selling 41"'ers
while LV is selling 50"'ers, but
LV: 2-24" + 2-50" + shipping to your door = 98.50
WC: 2-24" + 2-41" + your gas = 97.00 + your gas
Given the present world we live in, LV won and the clamps are bigger.
JK
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"James T. Kirby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> loutent wrote:
>>
> Did all the math yesterday - of course, LV constrains you into buying a
> certain
> set of clamps, and the overlap with Woodcraft isn't complete since
> Woodcraft is selling 41"'ers
> while LV is selling 50"'ers, but
>
> LV: 2-24" + 2-50" + shipping to your door = 98.50
> WC: 2-24" + 2-41" + your gas = 97.00 + your gas
>
> Given the present world we live in, LV won and the clamps are bigger.
>
I ordered 2 sets of the 24 and 50 inchers from LV on Sunday afternoon. I
got an email today (Tuesday) that they just shipped FedEx and should arrive
at my home in Virginia Thursday. Total cost = $190.00 ($23.75 per clamp
delivered)
Seems like a good deal to me.
Gary
"loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:041020052106180541%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Gary <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "James T. Kirby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > loutent wrote:
>> >>
>> > Did all the math yesterday - of course, LV constrains you into buying a
>> > certain
>> > set of clamps, and the overlap with Woodcraft isn't complete since
>> > Woodcraft is selling 41"'ers
>> > while LV is selling 50"'ers, but
>> >
>> > LV: 2-24" + 2-50" + shipping to your door = 98.50
>> > WC: 2-24" + 2-41" + your gas = 97.00 + your gas
>> >
>> > Given the present world we live in, LV won and the clamps are bigger.
>> >
>> I ordered 2 sets of the 24 and 50 inchers from LV on Sunday afternoon. I
>> got an email today (Tuesday) that they just shipped FedEx and should
>> arrive
>> at my home in Virginia Thursday. Total cost = $190.00 ($23.75 per clamp
>> delivered)
>>
>> Seems like a good deal to me.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> That's a great deal. I ordered 2 of the 12/24 sets (LV) last week on
> Thursday and got them Saturday (FedEx). $162 for 8 Bessey's
> ($20.25 ea with shipping).
>
> Don't get much better than that.
>
> Ordering more later this month.
>
> Building a new clamp rack to accomodate.
>
> Fun stuff!
>
> Lou
More fun stuff...
Seems that we both got (4) 25" clamps. I got (4) 50", you got (4) 12".
$190 - $162 = $28. That's only a $7 difference per clamp between a 12" and
a 50".
I suppose it all depends on what you have a use for.
You can use a 50" clamp in most cases where a 12" one would do, albeit
clumsy. But you can never use a 12" where a13" to 50" clamp is called for.
Sorry, I keep having these brain farts.
Gary
"Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "James T. Kirby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> loutent wrote:
>>>
>> Did all the math yesterday - of course, LV constrains you into buying a
>> certain
>> set of clamps, and the overlap with Woodcraft isn't complete since
>> Woodcraft is selling 41"'ers
>> while LV is selling 50"'ers, but
>>
>> LV: 2-24" + 2-50" + shipping to your door = 98.50
>> WC: 2-24" + 2-41" + your gas = 97.00 + your gas
>>
>> Given the present world we live in, LV won and the clamps are bigger.
>>
> I ordered 2 sets of the 24 and 50 inchers from LV on Sunday afternoon. I
> got an email today (Tuesday) that they just shipped FedEx and should
> arrive at my home in Virginia Thursday. Total cost = $190.00 ($23.75 per
> clamp delivered)
>
> Seems like a good deal to me.
>
> Gary
>
Me again. The 24/50's arrived yesterday (Thursday) in perfect condition.
Great turn around on LV's part. I am very pleased. I may start using them
as my main tool (toy) supplier, now that Amazon has started charging for
shipping.
Gary
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:38:08 -0400, "Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote:
>You can use a 50" clamp in most cases where a 12" one would do, albeit
>clumsy. But you can never use a 12" where a 13" to 50" clamp is called for.
Maybe so, but in 100 opportunities to use a 50" K-body on a 13"
clamping project, at least 99 times you will seek an alternative
method. Clumsy doesn't begin to describe it.
As someone who went through an entire education experience (and 100s
of $) refining the clamp acquisition process, I can assure you of
several things:
24" clamps are the best choice for your initial purchase.
At some point you will be happy to have a couple of 40" clamps.
At some further point you will be happy to have a couple of 50"
clamps.
At some point you will be happy to have a couple of 12" clamps.
Clamps must be bought in pairs to avoid upsetting the balance of the
universe. It's just wrong to have an odd number of clamps.
You will be unable to resist clamp purchases at bargain prices until
sometime past the two dozen mark.
You will continue to yearn for more clamps even after three dozen, but
you will find it easier to resist buying them.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:36:34 GMT, "John Emmons"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>That's cause a bunch of guys who didn't read the caveats about the sale at
>Rockler last year or so got mad when they didn't get the clamps they wanted
>at the price they wanted to pay.
>
>Rockler's ad clearly stated that it was a limited amount and a limited time
>offer. The folks complaining either didn't get to the store in time or
>wanted to buy them on their own time frame, they also seemed to expect that
>Bessey would just keep sending Rockler the clamps at the discounted prices
>until the person complaining had time to go and get some.
>
>It was never Rockler's fault that a few guys who failed to read the ad in
>question didn't get the clamps at the sale price.
Maybe. But this smacks of the tactics car dealers use. I have an
acquaintance that used to sell cars for a local Chevy dealer (a pillar
of the community).
They would advertise a car at a super low price and in fact had one
such car to satisfy the attorney general. It would be purple, with
vinyl seats, a manual radio and transmission and no A/C (in AZ). If
they actually sold the car, they could say to the subsequent customers
with a straight face, "Too bad, we sold out on that offer, would you
like to see a Suburban?"
Rockler twice charged me more for items that I ordered via the web
than the price stipulated on the order. They also promised a credit
to my card that never happened. They lost a customer over five bucks.
What a crappy way to run a company.
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:29:53 GMT, "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Why would one buy 40" inch clamps? Wouldn't one be better off buying the
>50's? I can't see where 10" more would be a hindrance.
See in this paragraph:
>> As someone who went through an entire education experience (and 100s
>> of $) refining the clamp acquisition process...
My first set of K-bodies was bought using the now discredited thinking
that "you can clamp 12 with a 40 but not 40 with a 12." And 40 seemed
a better choice than 50 at that point (I can't even recall if 50s were
available to me then). On virtually my very first glue up I discovered
what the other poster described, including the jab in the solar
plexus. I immediately ordered a couple (or more) 24" clamps.
It wasn't until much later that I had a need for something greater
than 40" so then I got a couple of 50". I've since added several 40s
and a whole lot of 24s. Still only have two 50s, I think.
Further to the hinderance, you're right--10" wouldn't be much of a
hindrance if you were using your 50"s to clamp a 39" project. But if
you were clamping a 32" project (too big for any 31"ers you might
have) you'd be a whole lot happier having 8" sticking out from the
glueup than 18". And if you didn't have 31s and were trying to clamp
up a 25" job, you'd have two feet of bars waiting to attack you all
around the work area instead of 15", so, yes, that extra 10" can be
significant.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:52:50 -0400, Bill Davis Jr wrote:
> Well I did it. I order my first set of Bessey clamps from LV.
>
> I ordered 2 sets of 25/50. This weekend I may drive down to my local
> Woodcraft and see about getting some more 25's and a couple 40's.
>
My LV order should arrive tomorrow, one long set.
We're all tripping over our crowbars to get a piece of the action. Would
Bessey be smart to change their price point?
"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> neither set will have a price more than 2 digits(in USD)
Less than a buck!!!!! Whoooooooooooooo Hooooooooooo! :)
Oh...
Didja mean before the decimal point or after?
Well I got my set of 12/24s and 24/50s from LV today. No catalog though,
this makes me sad. How much bend is ok in the 50s? nice arc along the
length from shipping. I hate fedex ground. They have managed to mangle two
shipments this week. (the 50s and a Delta outfeed table from Amazon) Yeah
the SWMBO is kind enough to let me get this stuff, but I suffer the
consequences when it shows up broken.
"Bill Davis Jr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well I did it. I order my first set of Bessey clamps from LV.
>
> I ordered 2 sets of 25/50. This weekend I may drive down to my local
> Woodcraft and see about getting some more 25's and a couple 40's.
>
> Bill