I am considering the purchase of a Performax 16-32 drum sander. It requires
a 20 amp circuit. I have a DC that requires a 20 amp circuit. The DC runs
fine on a 15 amp circuit and the sander probably would too but certainly not
both at the same time.
Can these be rewired to run on 220? There are 2 motors on this sander. The
1.5 hp AC 110 volt motor and the smaller DC belt drive motor.
Thanks
You are going to want to run your DC at the same time as the
sander. The Performax seems to be 99% dust free with DC working.
Robert
Leon wrote:
> I am considering the purchase of a Performax 16-32 drum sander. It requires
> a 20 amp circuit. I have a DC that requires a 20 amp circuit. The DC runs
> fine on a 15 amp circuit and the sander probably would too but certainly not
> both at the same time.
>
> Can these be rewired to run on 220? There are 2 motors on this sander. The
> 1.5 hp AC 110 volt motor and the smaller DC belt drive motor.
>
> Thanks
Leon wrote:
> I am considering the purchase of a Performax 16-32 drum sander. It requires
> a 20 amp circuit. I have a DC that requires a 20 amp circuit. The DC runs
> fine on a 15 amp circuit and the sander probably would too but certainly not
> both at the same time.
>
> Can these be rewired to run on 220? There are 2 motors on this sander. The
> 1.5 hp AC 110 volt motor and the smaller DC belt drive motor.
>
> Thanks
If the 220 circuit is 20 amps, you might be able to split a 20 amp 110
circuit off it.
Disclaimer.. I'm not an electrician.. but I've done this before..
Check your breaker box.. If the ground wire to the 220 is connected to
the same bus as the white wires of the normal 110V circuits are
connected to, then you can split off a 120, 20 amp circuit using one of
the poles of the 220.
You might feel safer by pulling out the 220 breaker and replacing it
with a 110 breaker.. that's actually what I would do if this was a long
term solution. The existing wire can already handle 20 amps (if the
existing 220 circuit is 20 amps).
Leon wrote:
> IIRC the 220 has no ground. It is a 3 wire set up.
>
Actually, it does have a ground.. I didn't explain it clearly.
A 220 line has three wires. The black and red are "hot".. Think of one
as +110 and the other as -110.. Thus the voltage drop is 220V. You
probably have a white wire, that's what I was calling "ground". Usually
they connect the white wire to the same bus on the breaker panel as the
other grounds (bare copper). Think of the white wire as 0.. Thus, the
difference from the black or red wire to the white wire is 110.
That's how you're able to split off a 110 from a 220.. You could make a
little adapter that has a 220 plug, and connect 2 wires (the white wire
and then either the red/black) to a regular 120 Box.. and you're set.
Of course, check on the breaker box just to make sure that your outlet
is wired to convention.. I got zapped at my sisters house due to some
idiot doing DIY wiring.
Leon wrote:
> Thanks to every one for your input and suggestions. Thanks to bf's last
> post I tool a look at my breakers and noticed a seperate 20 amp breaker for
> the washing machine. The washing machine is in the garage/shop. I never
> use the outlet that the wahshing machine is pluggen into and had totally for
> gotten about that circuit. I turned off the breaker to all the outlets that
> I normally use and the washing machine still had power.
>
> Damn that was easy.
Glad you got a solution.. We couldn't let something as trivial as
electricity stop you from getting a new toy. You'll love it, I'm sure.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I am considering the purchase of a Performax 16-32 drum sander. It
>requires a 20 amp circuit. I have a DC that requires a 20 amp circuit.
>The DC runs fine on a 15 amp circuit and the sander probably would too but
>certainly not both at the same time.
>
> Can these be rewired to run on 220? There are 2 motors on this sander.
> The 1.5 hp AC 110 volt motor and the smaller DC belt drive motor.
>
I went to the trouble of taking mine apart. Nope, 16/32 is strictly 120v.
I thought maybe you could convert the drum motor to 240 and leave the belt
on 120, but there are only two wires going into the motor.
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I am considering the purchase of a Performax 16-32 drum sander. It
>>requires a 20 amp circuit. I have a DC that requires a 20 amp circuit.
>>The DC runs fine on a 15 amp circuit and the sander probably would too but
>>certainly not both at the same time.
>>
>> Can these be rewired to run on 220? There are 2 motors on this sander.
>> The 1.5 hp AC 110 volt motor and the smaller DC belt drive motor.
>>
> I went to the trouble of taking mine apart. Nope, 16/32 is strictly 120v.
> I thought maybe you could convert the drum motor to 240 and leave the belt
> on 120, but there are only two wires going into the motor.
>
Thanks for checking.
"Knotbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You are going to want to run your DC at the same time as the
> sander. The Performax seems to be 99% dust free with DC working.
> Robert
Right, that is the problem. Both would have to be running at the same time
on a 15 amp circuit.
If I have a drum sander running on my 220 volt circuit there would be no
problem.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I went to the trouble of taking mine apart. Nope, 16/32 is strictly
>> 120v. I thought maybe you could convert the drum motor to 240 and leave
>> the belt on 120, but there are only two wires going into the motor.
>>
>
> Thanks for checking.
>
The motor has a switched outlet into which it plugs on the current (HA!)
version, but the Taiwan motor is not optioned for 220. Different motor
supplier might option. That would make dual-voltage operation possible.
Sounds like a slip into a definite maybe. My other JET tools all have
option motors, so the JET version might.
Certainly would be easy to convert if the motor were capable.
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Leon wrote:
>> IIRC the 220 has no ground. It is a 3 wire set up.
>>
>
> Actually, it does have a ground.. I didn't explain it clearly.
Yeah, I understand that but was not sure that it was really a ground or
something that worked like a ground.
> A 220 line has three wires. The black and red are "hot".. Think of one
> as +110 and the other as -110.. Thus the voltage drop is 220V. You
> probably have a white wire, that's what I was calling "ground". Usually
> they connect the white wire to the same bus on the breaker panel as the
> other grounds (bare copper). Think of the white wire as 0.. Thus, the
> difference from the black or red wire to the white wire is 110.
Yeah, I tapped into the back of the dryer outlet to run an outlet to run my
220 TS. I was under the impression that I coule go with two of the wires
from there and get 110.
>
> That's how you're able to split off a 110 from a 220.. You could make a
> little adapter that has a 220 plug, and connect 2 wires (the white wire
> and then either the red/black) to a regular 120 Box.. and you're set.
If I do that, would I then be with out a ground? Actually if it is wired
like you say the white still goes back to the other grounds and I would.
I suppose a volt meter will tell me what is what on the outlet end.
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Leon wrote:
>> I am considering the purchase of a Performax 16-32 drum sander. It
>> requires
>> a 20 amp circuit. I have a DC that requires a 20 amp circuit. The DC
>> runs
>> fine on a 15 amp circuit and the sander probably would too but certainly
>> not
>> both at the same time.
>>
>> Can these be rewired to run on 220? There are 2 motors on this sander.
>> The
>> 1.5 hp AC 110 volt motor and the smaller DC belt drive motor.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> If the 220 circuit is 20 amps, you might be able to split a 20 amp 110
> circuit off it.
I was thinking that. IIRC the 220 circuit is a 50 amp circuit that also
feeds the clothes dryer. Running the dryer and TS at the same time is no
problem at all.
I'll have to talk to an electrician abou that idea.
> Disclaimer.. I'm not an electrician.. but I've done this before..
> Check your breaker box.. If the ground wire to the 220 is connected to
> the same bus as the white wires of the normal 110V circuits are
> connected to, then you can split off a 120, 20 amp circuit using one of
> the poles of the 220.
IIRC the 220 has no ground. It is a 3 wire set up.
>
> You might feel safer by pulling out the 220 breaker and replacing it
> with a 110 breaker..
No, I still have to have that 220 service.
It may be easier to use a heavy extension cord from another circuit.
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>
> The motor has a switched outlet into which it plugs on the current (HA!)
> version, but the Taiwan motor is not optioned for 220. Different motor
> supplier might option. That would make dual-voltage operation possible.
> Sounds like a slip into a definite maybe. My other JET tools all have
> option motors, so the JET version might.
>
> Certainly would be easy to convert if the motor were capable.
I shoot them an e-mail and see what they have to say.
Thanks to every one for your input and suggestions. Thanks to bf's last
post I tool a look at my breakers and noticed a seperate 20 amp breaker for
the washing machine. The washing machine is in the garage/shop. I never
use the outlet that the wahshing machine is pluggen into and had totally for
gotten about that circuit. I turned off the breaker to all the outlets that
I normally use and the washing machine still had power.
Damn that was easy.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:48:21 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am considering the purchase of a Performax 16-32 drum sander. It requires
>a 20 amp circuit. I have a DC that requires a 20 amp circuit. The DC runs
>fine on a 15 amp circuit and the sander probably would too but certainly not
>both at the same time.
>
>Can these be rewired to run on 220? There are 2 motors on this sander. The
>1.5 hp AC 110 volt motor and the smaller DC belt drive motor.
>
>Thanks
>
I have a 22-44 and the paperwork says that you can't do it.
After reading the other posts I see your version is the same.
Have you tried to change your DC to run on 220?
DC is a must have!
The only dust is what lays on the belt and falls off to the floor.
Gary
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> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:48:21 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>
>
> I have a 22-44 and the paperwork says that you can't do it.
>
> After reading the other posts I see your version is the same.
>
> Have you tried to change your DC to run on 220?
>
> DC is a must have!
> The only dust is what lays on the belt and falls off to the floor.
>
> Gary
I could rewire the DC to 220 however then I would have to run an extra 220
line over to it as I only have one 220 outlet. My TS, Planer, and BS run
on 220 and having the DC run on 110 is a good set up for me now.
Right now I do not run more than 220 volt tool at one time.