OK, I went ahead and bought that Jet 650C dust collector today . . .
I stopped by Radio Shack on the way home, intending to get a wireless
remote power outlet thingy. They have their X-10 style units, and a
couple others. They all say 15A, 1/3 hp. The Jet DC is rated at 1hp.
Has anyone used these "1/3hp" remotes with good results ?
Thanks,
Scott
I use a wireless remote. The kind that Sears sells. I also use a relay
box I built. The power tool is plugged into the remote switch and that
is all it has to handle. It keys on a relay in the relay box which is
10 amp rated. This turns on the DC.
There is a 6 outlet power strip plugged into the remote switch so I have
a choice of tools to turn on. Also I have a blast gate at each tool.
All I do to turn on my DC is open a blast gate and turn on the power.
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[email protected] (Larry West) wrote in message >
>
> I wouldn't get it then. 15A tells me it should handle about 1600
> watts, and 1/3 Hp would be about 250 watts, the numbers are off. I
> recommend the Shop Fox brand remote dust collector switch from Grizzly
> (Model H2797). The unit is rated for dust collectors up to 1 1/2 Hp.
> It works great with my 1 1/2 Hp Oneida. It comes with 2 controls.
> About $48 with S&H. I have no affiliation with Grizzly, other than
> helping to pay the light bill at the Bellingham store.
>
> Larry
Thanks for the info, gang. I too was/am confused by the HP rating when
it shows 15A as being allowed. Since P = I * E, it would seem that it
should handle more than 1/3HP. But it DOES specify the 1/3HP is for a
"motor" so I wonder if the peak start-up draw is the problem? In any
event, I guess a guy could try it ($24) and see if the thing smokes,
with the assumption that it wouldn't damage the dust collector
motor(?) Or maybe not!
Scott
By the way, I just looked at Amazon, and they sell the Shop Fox
through Grizzly. There is one buyer review that suggests a
problem(?):
BUYER BEWARE & BE INFORMED! February 7, 2004
I purchased one of these assuming from the product description that it
would fit my JET dust collecter... It doesn't... this remote switch
comes wired with NEMA 6-20 plug/receptacle, while the JET comes with a
NEMA 6-15 plug. There is no interchanging these two without re-wiring
or going to an expensive international, universal adapter... JUST KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU WILL GET, as the data states
nothing beyond it being 220A...
[email protected] (Scott) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Just stopped at Sears where I found their little auto-switching
> outlet, and a 6-outlet powerstrip. I'll plug all the dustmakers into
> the strip, and in theory, the DC will kick on when any of the tools
> turns on. $19.95. I'll report back.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott
OK, I'm reporting back: works great! However, I can see that having a
wireless remote would be a good way to do this too: I could leave the
DC on while resetting the TS blade height, for example (instead of the
DC going on-off-on-off all day long when switching between tools, or
when making quick adjustments).
Scott
I have 2 of the Shop Fox remotes to control my DC and shop vac. Each
unit comes with 2 remotes. They work with 1.5 HP motors. cost about
$40 locally.
dave
Scott wrote:
> OK, I went ahead and bought that Jet 650C dust collector today . . .
>
> I stopped by Radio Shack on the way home, intending to get a wireless
> remote power outlet thingy. They have their X-10 style units, and a
> couple others. They all say 15A, 1/3 hp. The Jet DC is rated at 1hp.
> Has anyone used these "1/3hp" remotes with good results ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
[email protected] (Scott) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> OK, I went ahead and bought that Jet 650C dust collector today . . .
>
> I stopped by Radio Shack on the way home, intending to get a wireless
> remote power outlet thingy. They have their X-10 style units, and a
> couple others. They all say 15A, 1/3 hp. The Jet DC is rated at 1hp.
> Has anyone used these "1/3hp" remotes with good results ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
I wouldn't get it then. 15A tells me it should handle about 1600
watts, and 1/3 Hp would be about 250 watts, the numbers are off. I
recommend the Shop Fox brand remote dust collector switch from Grizzly
(Model H2797). The unit is rated for dust collectors up to 1 1/2 Hp.
It works great with my 1 1/2 Hp Oneida. It comes with 2 controls.
About $48 with S&H. I have no affiliation with Grizzly, other than
helping to pay the light bill at the Bellingham store.
Larr
[email protected] (Scott) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> By the way, I just looked at Amazon, and they sell the Shop Fox
> through Grizzly. There is one buyer review that suggests a
> problem(?):
>
>
>
> BUYER BEWARE & BE INFORMED! February 7, 2004
> I purchased one of these assuming from the product description that it
> would fit my JET dust collecter... It doesn't... this remote switch
> comes wired with NEMA 6-20 plug/receptacle, while the JET comes with a
> NEMA 6-15 plug. There is no interchanging these two without re-wiring
> or going to an expensive international, universal adapter... JUST KNOW
> EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU WILL GET, as the data states
> nothing beyond it being 220A...
Grizzly sells two versions of the Shop Fox remote, one's for 110 VAC,
the other for 220. The model I listed earlier is for the 11O version.
Sounds like this other guy inadvertently ordered the 220.
Larr
[email protected] (Scott) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> OK, I went ahead and bought that Jet 650C dust collector today . . .
>
> I stopped by Radio Shack on the way home, intending to get a wireless
> remote power outlet thingy. They have their X-10 style units, and a
> couple others. They all say 15A, 1/3 hp. The Jet DC is rated at 1hp.
> Has anyone used these "1/3hp" remotes with good results ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
For high current applications use a relay. Contact a near electronics
supply house and get a relay with the current rating you need for the
motor size. Then plug the coil of the relay into the X-10. It works.
It also prevents the high starting current of the motor from buring up
the X-10 device. It is also handy if you change to a 220 motor. The
x10 would still be 110.
I've been using one on my Delta 650cfm 1hp DC for about 2 years now
and am still on the original appliance module. I probably average 50-100
cycles per week.
I shouldn't go to Radio Schlock, they're way too expensive and I only use
them if I need something now and can't wait. Instead go to x10.com and
sign up for their email newsletter and you'll get an instant $15 gift certificate.
If you can wait on buying, watch the newsletters. Sooner or later what
you want will be on sale. And you can still use the certificate.
Art
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK, I went ahead and bought that Jet 650C dust collector today . . .
>
> I stopped by Radio Shack on the way home, intending to get a wireless
> remote power outlet thingy. They have their X-10 style units, and a
> couple others. They all say 15A, 1/3 hp. The Jet DC is rated at 1hp.
> Has anyone used these "1/3hp" remotes with good results ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
I wouldn't exceed their ratings.
You can, however, get heavy duty wireless outlets elsewhere, along with a
much larger selection of wireless accessories, even 220V. Probably cheaper
than radioshack, and cheaper than the dust collection controller I see
advertised in some woodworking catalogues, which is essentially an x10
product.
Try Smarthome at www.smarthome.com or the X10 website at
http://www.x10.com/automation/homeautomation.htm
Michel.
www.woodstoneproductions.com
www.fminsight.com
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK, I went ahead and bought that Jet 650C dust collector today . . .
>
> I stopped by Radio Shack on the way home, intending to get a wireless
> remote power outlet thingy. They have their X-10 style units, and a
> couple others. They all say 15A, 1/3 hp. The Jet DC is rated at 1hp.
> Has anyone used these "1/3hp" remotes with good results ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott