Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2005 13:24:14 -0800, the inscrutable "toolguy"
> <[email protected]> spake:
>
> >I've heard of due diligence but what is "diligents"? Is that a
> >gentleman who likes dill pickles??? :>)
>
> Another guy just said "should of" today. Oy vay.
> Spreak Engrish, troops!
>
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Um, I think "heard of" is correct, grammatically. I even talked to my
resident grammar expert and she said it was acceptable. Are we wrong?
Wait, don't answer that. Is it indeed incorrect to say, "I've heard of
that."? (Damn. Now a punctuation conundrum!)
-Phil Crow
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> Spreak Engrish, troops!
"There's millions of them, on all three sides of us..."
djb
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In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Um, I think "heard of" is correct, grammatically.
But "should of" instead of "should have" is not.
djb
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child sexual preditors! While most trail lawyers are lower than whale shit at
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them one step above the ACLU.
Todd Fatheree wrote:
> Remember to send a thank you note to your local trial lawyers for that.
>
> todd
>
> "Bob Schmall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Scary, you bet. And relevant. I signed on to teach a course in astronomy
> > through my town's recreation department. Before they'll approve the course
> I
> > am required to sign an authorization that allows them to query the
> Selective
> > Service, ANY law enforcement agency or jail officer, ANY place of
> business,
> > ANY court, ANY school or other educational institution.
> > And to top it off, they want me to sign away ANY rights I may have to
> > liability or damages of ANY kind.
> > After checking with the ACLU and my state government, I'm about to tell
> them
> > some very specific place where they can store their form. It may be legal,
> > but it ain't right.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >I thought some might enjoy this:
> > >
> > > http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jack Novak
> > > Buffalo, NY - USA
> > > (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Scary, you bet. And relevant. I signed on to teach a course in astronomy
through my town's recreation department. Before they'll approve the course I
am required to sign an authorization that allows them to query the Selective
Service, ANY law enforcement agency or jail officer, ANY place of business,
ANY court, ANY school or other educational institution.
And to top it off, they want me to sign away ANY rights I may have to
liability or damages of ANY kind.
After checking with the ACLU and my state government, I'm about to tell them
some very specific place where they can store their form. It may be legal,
but it ain't right.
Bob
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I thought some might enjoy this:
>
> http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
Not Bad.... :)
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:54:28 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>toolguy wrote:
>
>> I've heard of due diligence but what is "diligents"? Is that a
>> gentleman who likes dill pickles??? :>)
>
>Diligents are gentlemen (and ladies) who exercise diligence.
Bob Schmall wrote:
> Scary, you bet. And relevant. I signed on to teach a course in astronomy
> through my town's recreation department. Before they'll approve the course
> I am required to sign an authorization that allows them to query the
> Selective Service, ANY law enforcement agency or jail officer, ANY place
> of business, ANY court, ANY school or other educational institution.
I'm a bit puzzled as to why they need "authorization" to do this. Seems to
me that all they need is the phone number of each of those entities and
they can "query" them to their hearts' content.
Now, among those entities, some will know nothing about you, so why do you
care if they query them? And others will know something about you, like
whether you're a draft dodger or wanted criminal or are in some other way
prohibited by law from participating in Federally funded programs, of which
their recreation department is no doubt one, or whether you have in fact
taken and passed an astronomy course or exhibited a useful knowledge of
astronomy or are in some other way qualified to teach astronomy, which
would be a useful thing for them to know before they set you in front of a
classroom, or whether the last place you worked you were a reasonable
employee or whether you cussed out the boss and pissed off the customers,
which again it would be useful for them to know before they put you in
front of a room full of people who are expecting some sort of reasonably
effective interaction.
Sorry, but it doesn't seem to me that they've asked you for anything
unreasonable there. The "ANY" part is probably a lot easier on them than
listing all of the specific agencies that they will contact in _your_ case
based on your employment history and the like.
> And to top it off, they want me to sign away ANY rights I may have to
> liability or damages of ANY kind.
Which is standard for government agencies employing part time workers--some
kid spills his coffee on you you might shrug it off, but somebody else will
sue _them_ for running their coffee machines too hot or creating a hostile
work environment or some such instead of just accepting that shit happens
or going after the student for malicious clumsiness or whatever.
> After checking with the ACLU and my state government, I'm about to tell
> them some very specific place where they can store their form. It may be
> legal, but it ain't right.
How many former prospective employers have you told where they could store
their form? Seems to me that if you're prone to tell people where to store
their forms you're going to be very unhappy dealing with the more
obstreperous sort of student.
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I thought some might enjoy this:
>>
>> http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
>>
>> --
>> Jack Novak
>> Buffalo, NY - USA
>> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>>
>>
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Phil wrote:
> Trial lawyers and the ACLU. The ACLU has no regard for values, they
> defend
> child sexual preditors! While most trail lawyers are lower than whale
> shit at the bottom of the ocean, at least they are in it for personal
> greed which puts them one step above the ACLU.
While trail lawyers do engage in certain excesses at times, personally I'm
just as happy that someone is making sure that there are a few trails left
open to the public.
>
> Todd Fatheree wrote:
>
>> Remember to send a thank you note to your local trial lawyers for that.
>>
>> todd
>>
>> "Bob Schmall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Scary, you bet. And relevant. I signed on to teach a course in
>> > astronomy through my town's recreation department. Before they'll
>> > approve the course
>> I
>> > am required to sign an authorization that allows them to query the
>> Selective
>> > Service, ANY law enforcement agency or jail officer, ANY place of
>> business,
>> > ANY court, ANY school or other educational institution.
>> > And to top it off, they want me to sign away ANY rights I may have to
>> > liability or damages of ANY kind.
>> > After checking with the ACLU and my state government, I'm about to tell
>> them
>> > some very specific place where they can store their form. It may be
>> > legal, but it ain't right.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >
>> > "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> > >I thought some might enjoy this:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Jack Novak
>> > > Buffalo, NY - USA
>> > > (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:36:29 -0500, the inscrutable Nova
<[email protected]> spake:
>I thought some might enjoy this:
>
> http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
O H M I G O D ! Scary schtuff, schweetheart.
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Hi Bob.
I'm a municipal employee myself. It's more a legal and liability
issue for them. Just one example: Your going to be working around
kids. They have to exercise "due diligents" when it comes to
performing a background check on you. i.e. They have a
responsibility to protect the child attending one of their programs.
If they hire you, and fail to exercise diligents, and perform some
degree of background check, and you turn out to be a nasty person,
they can be held responsible for your actions. Although it may
be intrusive, that's just a fact of life now a days, when you work
with kids.
Pat
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:22:41 GMT, "Bob Schmall" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Scary, you bet. And relevant. I signed on to teach a course in astronomy
>through my town's recreation department. Before they'll approve the course I
>am required to sign an authorization that allows them to query the Selective
>Service, ANY law enforcement agency or jail officer, ANY place of business,
>ANY court, ANY school or other educational institution.
>And to top it off, they want me to sign away ANY rights I may have to
>liability or damages of ANY kind.
>After checking with the ACLU and my state government, I'm about to tell them
>some very specific place where they can store their form. It may be legal,
>but it ain't right.
>
>Bob
>
>
>"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>I thought some might enjoy this:
>>
>> http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
>>
>> --
>> Jack Novak
>> Buffalo, NY - USA
>> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>>
>>
>
On 29 Jan 2005 13:24:14 -0800, the inscrutable "toolguy"
<[email protected]> spake:
>I've heard of due diligence but what is "diligents"? Is that a
>gentleman who likes dill pickles??? :>)
Another guy just said "should of" today. Oy vay.
Spreak Engrish, troops!
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http://diversify.com Dynamic Website Applications
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:23:03 -0600, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Bob Schmall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Scary, you bet. And relevant. I signed on to teach a course in astronomy
>> through my town's recreation department. Before they'll approve the course
>I
>> am required to sign an authorization that allows them to query the
>Selective
>> Service, ANY law enforcement agency or jail officer, ANY place of
>business,
>> ANY court, ANY school or other educational institution.
>> And to top it off, they want me to sign away ANY rights I may have to
>> liability or damages of ANY kind.
Seems kind of heavy-handed.
... snip
>> "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >I thought some might enjoy this:
>> >
>> > http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
>> >
>
>Remember to send a thank you note to your local trial lawyers for that.
>
I thought it somewhat ironic that it was the aclu (a bunch of trial
lawyers in their own right) hosting the above parody. Although the parody
did leave out the dialog, "Oh, I see you are a member of the Church of ...,
all of our currently available cooks are athiests and your presence in our
restaurant would be offensive to their non-beliefs, therefore, I am going
to have to terminate this order and file a grievance against you for
harassing our employees for having beliefs they find offensive ..."
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On 29 Jan 2005 13:24:14 -0800, "toolguy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've heard of due diligence but what is "diligents"? Is that a
>gentleman who likes dill pickles??? :>)
Remember to send a thank you note to your local trial lawyers for that.
todd
"Bob Schmall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Scary, you bet. And relevant. I signed on to teach a course in astronomy
> through my town's recreation department. Before they'll approve the course
I
> am required to sign an authorization that allows them to query the
Selective
> Service, ANY law enforcement agency or jail officer, ANY place of
business,
> ANY court, ANY school or other educational institution.
> And to top it off, they want me to sign away ANY rights I may have to
> liability or damages of ANY kind.
> After checking with the ACLU and my state government, I'm about to tell
them
> some very specific place where they can store their form. It may be legal,
> but it ain't right.
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I thought some might enjoy this:
> >
> > http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
> >
> > --
> > Jack Novak
> > Buffalo, NY - USA
> > (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
> >
> >
>
>
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:48:09 -0500, "SawDust (Pat)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Although it may
>be intrusive, that's just a fact of life now a days, when you work
>with kids.
The problems they're addressing were always a problem,
it's just that they were neatly swept under a rug somewhere,
say another parish. The difference is that these things are
now on the table, in plain view.