Ok, I'd like the groups opinion as to the best Quick Change for a drill.
You know the kind of attachment you put in your chuck so you can change out
screw head bits and those specialized drill bits on the fly. I know you can
get the quick-change attachement from Craftsman and Dewalt, Makita, etc.
But which do you consider to be the best and why?
For instance I do not like the Dewalt 9v adjustable angle screw-gun with its
permanent quick-change attachment because it is just too easy for the bit to
come out when you put it in your tool bag. I'd rather just put a
quick-change in a chuck of a drill if I knew it would not loose bits if put
in a bag, but was still easy to swap bits.
Thanks in advance for any and all input on the subject!
"Grant" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:a1STd.118186$0u.114568@fed1read04...
> Ok, I'd like the groups opinion as to the best Quick Change for a drill.
> But which do you consider to be the best and why?
Best is easiest and cheapest in my opinion. A simple magnetic hex chuck that
I use in my chuck keyless, cordless drill.
Two Christmas' ago, a couple of my family members, who had exhausted all
other tool choices from recent years, bought me quick change sets, a Dewalt
and a Porter Cable. The chuck on the PC was absolutely useless; it was
nearly impossible to get the bits out reliably. The Dewalt chuch was clearly
superior. On the other hand, I broke 3 of the Dewalt bits immediately
whereas the Porter Cable bits are still going strong. Also, the PC drivers
and attachments are IMO better quality. Bottom line: I use the Dewalt chuck
with the PC cable bits/drivers.
"Grant" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:a1STd.118186$0u.114568@fed1read04...
> Ok, I'd like the groups opinion as to the best Quick Change for a drill.
> You know the kind of attachment you put in your chuck so you can change
out
> screw head bits and those specialized drill bits on the fly. I know you
can
> get the quick-change attachement from Craftsman and Dewalt, Makita, etc.
>
> But which do you consider to be the best and why?
>
> For instance I do not like the Dewalt 9v adjustable angle screw-gun with
its
> permanent quick-change attachment because it is just too easy for the bit
to
> come out when you put it in your tool bag. I'd rather just put a
> quick-change in a chuck of a drill if I knew it would not loose bits if
put
> in a bag, but was still easy to swap bits.
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all input on the subject!
>
>
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Grant" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:a1STd.118186$0u.114568@fed1read04...
>> Ok, I'd like the groups opinion as to the best Quick Change for a drill.
>> But which do you consider to be the best and why?
>
> Best is easiest and cheapest in my opinion. A simple magnetic hex chuck
> that
> I use in my chuck keyless, cordless drill.
>
>
The problem with the magnetic holders is drilling holes. You put in a drill
bit with hex end, drill the pilot hole and countersink, then when you
retract the bit, it pulls out of the holder. That is what convinced my to
go with the quick change and a solid mechanical device to hold it in place
and one hand release.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> The problem with the magnetic holders is drilling holes. You put in a
> drill
>> bit with hex end, drill the pilot hole and countersink, then when you
>> retract the bit, it pulls out of the holder.
>
> That makes sense and since I don't have any drills with hex ends, I
> haven't
> experienced it. Can I assume that keeping the drill turning while pulling
> it
> out still results in the bit pulling out of the holder?
Keeping it turning helps, but does not cure the problem. Changing from
Phillips bit to Robertson is a snap with a magnetic holder and I've used one
for years. Countersinking and then screwing (make that driving screws) is
more of a challenge at times. Not a big deal to drill 20 holes, then drive
20 screws, but to drill one or two, then put in the screws, them drill
again, made me look for a better way.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:4_TTd.36272
> > Best is easiest and cheapest in my opinion. A simple magnetic hex chuck
> > that I use in my chuck keyless, cordless drill.
>
> The problem with the magnetic holders is drilling holes. You put in a
drill
> bit with hex end, drill the pilot hole and countersink, then when you
> retract the bit, it pulls out of the holder.
That makes sense and since I don't have any drills with hex ends, I haven't
experienced it. Can I assume that keeping the drill turning while pulling it
out still results in the bit pulling out of the holder?
I have one of those little kits - never use it since chuck keys are pretty
much a thing of the past on hand power drills.
Mark
"Grant" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:a1STd.118186$0u.114568@fed1read04...
> Ok, I'd like the groups opinion as to the best Quick Change for a drill.
> You know the kind of attachment you put in your chuck so you can change
out
> screw head bits and those specialized drill bits on the fly. I know you
can
> get the quick-change attachement from Craftsman and Dewalt, Makita, etc.
>
> But which do you consider to be the best and why?
>
> For instance I do not like the Dewalt 9v adjustable angle screw-gun with
its
> permanent quick-change attachment because it is just too easy for the bit
to
> come out when you put it in your tool bag. I'd rather just put a
> quick-change in a chuck of a drill if I knew it would not loose bits if
put
> in a bag, but was still easy to swap bits.
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all input on the subject!
>
>
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message > Best is easiest and
cheapest in my opinion. A simple magnetic hex chuck that
> I use in my chuck keyless, cordless drill.
Problem is if you what this feature for using it everyday for a living, it
has been my experience that the magnet does not hold bits well at all. I
don't want it falling out during use or storage in a tool bag.
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have one of those little kits - never use it since chuck keys are pretty
> much a thing of the past on hand power drills.
> Mark
If you are making a few changes a day, it is not a big deal. If you are
doing a lot of screw driving and countersinking, the difference is huge
after 10 or 30 or 100 holes. One hand, two seconds.
"Grant" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:a1STd.118186$0u.114568@fed1read04...
> Ok, I'd like the groups opinion as to the best Quick Change for a drill.
> You know the kind of attachment you put in your chuck so you can change
> out screw head bits and those specialized drill bits on the fly. I know
> you can get the quick-change attachement from Craftsman and Dewalt,
> Makita, etc.
>
> But which do you consider to be the best and why?
>
Can't say what is best because I've only used one, the Bosch. Works well
enough for the short time I've had it.
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:23:46 -0800, the inscrutable "Grant" <[email protected]>
spake:
>
>"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message > Best is easiest and
>cheapest in my opinion. A simple magnetic hex chuck that
>> I use in my chuck keyless, cordless drill.
>
>
>Problem is if you what this feature for using it everyday for a living, it
>has been my experience that the magnet does not hold bits well at all. I
>don't want it falling out during use or storage in a tool bag.
So use a bit of stickum in the bit socket. Clay and plumber's putty
(non-hardening) work fine.
-
Yea, though I walk through the valley of Minwax, I shall stain no Cherry.
http://diversify.com
I'm currently working with the Insty Bit (go to Lee Valley
and search).
The up side, you can countersink and recess a screw for
plugs. It's easy to use. In the drill position the bit is
very secure. There are Vix bit inserts as well as regular
and tapered (Fuller type).
The down side, you physically remove the screw tip to drill
(one more thing on the bench to watch over/keep track
of/lose). Also, in the drill position there's some play but
it's not horrible.
I liked the DeWalt but the set screw was too small (spent
more time pulling bits out of the work) and the countersink
wasn't cut deep enough to recess screws.
Of all I've used I'm compromising on the Insty Bit/finding
it's better/works best for me.
As always, Your Mileage May Vary.
UA100