JJ

17/02/2006 8:15 PM

PING Dave Balderstone, eh.

Here's the answer to your problem.
http://www.v8snowblowers.com/id15.html

Makes me almost willing to move back up to snow country. LMAO
That's an outright lie. Life in NC is gooood. Be even better if all
those damn people from New Yawk and New Joisey would move to Florida,
instead of here.



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!


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"tom"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 17/02/2006 8:15 PM

17/02/2006 7:22 PM

That's one reason I didn't move to N.C. Seems I'm a damn yankee in
their eyes. Too prejudiced. Good pig, though. Tom, happy but dry in
Tucson. ...water...

JJ

in reply to "tom" on 17/02/2006 7:22 PM

18/02/2006 1:29 AM

Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 7:22pm (EST-3) [email protected] (tom) doth
spuriously claim:
That's one reason I didn't move to N.C. Seems I'm a damn yankee in their
eyes. Too prejudiced. Good pig, though. Tom, happy but dry in Tucson.
..water...

Hell, I've been here since '79, and I still get asked, "You're not
from around here, are you?". I just tell 'em, "Yeah, I'm from right up
the road.". They're not prejudiced around here, just talk decent to
them, and they'll talk decent to you. The only problem I have is when
I order white milk at a fast food drive thru, some people have a hard
time understanding what I want. Them damn New Yawkers and Joiseyites
act and talk like they're still up north, that's not the way to blend
in. A lot of them buy those ugly Ford four door "pickups", made from a
Ford Explorer, and think that makes them "country". Then they complain
that people are "unfriendly", and don't want to talk to them.



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!

DJ

"Dave Jackson"

in reply to "tom" on 17/02/2006 7:22 PM

18/02/2006 2:57 PM

(snip) --A lot of them buy those ugly Ford four door "pickups", made from a
> Ford Explorer, and think that makes them "country". Then they complain
> that people are "unfriendly", and don't want to talk to them.


Hey JT,
I think you're describing the difference between city folks who move to
the country and country folks who grew up in the country, not necessarily
just New Yorkers or New Jerseyites. 'Round here, we wave at our neighbors,
for no reason other than to do it. They wave back. The newer neighbors,
who have clearly moved here from the city, often just looked puzzled if you
wave at them, as if they're wondering if they know you, or you know them,
and if not, why are they being waved at. As if it has to be something more
than a simple "hey, neighbor" . They do complain that people don't want to
talk to them, but they don't understand why. I know why.
They move from the city to the country, build their houses, close
together and close to the road, and try to force the area into a
"subdivision". They come and build houses next to a farm, then try to get
rid of the farmer because they can't stand the smell, and it's reducing
*their* property value. They move to the country and complain about the
neighbors who may have a little junk in their yard, as most do. Remnants of
old trucks, tractors, farm equipment, old barns, silos, etc are now
"eyesores" to them, and they push to have those items removed from the
landscape as it affects *their* property value.
They almost expect help from their "country" neighbors when a problem
arises. Ever see someone try to snowblow a 200ft. gravel driveway with a
snowblower designed to do a concrete drive in town that would hold 4 cars
max? Funny. Real funny. Until they come almost demanding you help them
out with your tractor....
'Round here, they are refered to as IME's, as short for seemingly most
important things in their life "I" and "Me".... and they "complain that
people are "unfriendly" and don't want to talk to them.". IME country folk
help each other, city folk in the country help themselves... hopefully
they'll get it figured out soon enough. That will blend them in..--dave



"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 7:22pm (EST-3) [email protected] (tom) doth
> spuriously claim:
> That's one reason I didn't move to N.C. Seems I'm a damn yankee in their
> eyes. Too prejudiced. Good pig, though. Tom, happy but dry in Tucson.
> ..water...
>
> Hell, I've been here since '79, and I still get asked, "You're not
> from around here, are you?". I just tell 'em, "Yeah, I'm from right up
> the road.". They're not prejudiced around here, just talk decent to
> them, and they'll talk decent to you. The only problem I have is when
> I order white milk at a fast food drive thru, some people have a hard
> time understanding what I want. Them damn New Yawkers and Joiseyites
> act and talk like they're still up north, that's not the way to blend
> in. A lot of them buy those ugly Ford four door "pickups", made from a
> Ford Explorer, and think that makes them "country". Then they complain
> that people are "unfriendly", and don't want to talk to them.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!
>

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 18/02/2006 2:57 PM

18/02/2006 12:14 PM

J T wrote:
> Awhile back, I saw a
> guy walk away from a car at the side of the road, and started walking,
> making no attempt to hitchike. I offered him a ride. Turned out he'd
> moved down from Joisey, and was maybe a couple of miles or so from where
> he lived. It'd only put me a mile or so out of my way, so instea of
> turning at the corner, I went the other way and dropped him off. He'd
> offered to pay me, several times, but I kept telling him no. Then when
> the SOB got out of my truck, he dropped a $5 bill on the seat. Oh yes,
> I took the money. And, made a firm decision that if I ever recognized
> him walking again, I'd pass him by. People like that are never gonna
> "blend in".

Maybe everyone doesn't want to "blend in", and maybe his wish to thank
you monetarily is equal to your wish to do it gratis.

As far as the donation for your services, instead of being vindictive
next time you see the guy, donate the money to a charity. You'll feel
good for doing two kindnesses with one act and the brokedown guy feels
he rewarded you for your help.

R

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 18/02/2006 12:14 PM

18/02/2006 7:51 PM

J T wrote:
> Sat, Feb 18, 2006, 12:14pm (EST-3) [email protected] (RicodJour)
> doth burble:
> Maybe everyone doesn't want to "blend in", and maybe his wish to thank
> you monetarily is equal to your wish to do it gratis.
> As far as the donation for your services, instead of being vindictive
> next time you see the guy, donate the money to a charity. You'll feel
> good for doing two kindnesses with one act and the brokedown guy feels
> he rewarded you for your help.
>
> Appaarently I wasn't clear enough. The guy was an ass. Gave the
> impression he thought I was "below" ham, that he was buying my services,
> and that I "expected" payment. I told him the first time he offered, to
> forget it; but, he just kept on, and on, and on. I don't need crap like
> that. If the guy hadn't been such an ass, I might have told him to just
> give me a buck, and then we'd both have been happy. I repeat, if I were
> to recognize him walking again, I'd pass him by. I would make an
> exception in a blizzard, or typhoon - probably.

You get typhoons in NC?! ;)

Two ways of looking at it:
1). He thought you needed the money more than he did and thought he
was doing you a favor. Let it go - his assumption about your net
worth, in any interpretation, means nothing.
2). He really is a schmuck and you should've yelled after him, "Hey!
You forgot this." And dropped his fiver out your window...and then
watch him in your rearview go back to pick it up.

R

JJ

in reply to "RicodJour" on 18/02/2006 7:51 PM

19/02/2006 1:33 AM

Sat, Feb 18, 2006, 7:51pm (EST-3) [email protected] (RicodJour)
doth sayeth:
<snip> 2). He really is a schmuck and you should've yelled after him,
"Hey! You forgot this." And dropped his fiver out your window...and then
watch him in your rearview go back to pick it up.

Nah, I wouldn't have been that petty. I'd have been even pettier,
I'da torn it up before I'd tossed it. Instead, I just kept it friendly,
kept the bill - now waiting for a typhoon.



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!

JJ

in reply to "RicodJour" on 18/02/2006 12:14 PM

18/02/2006 8:33 PM

Sat, Feb 18, 2006, 12:14pm (EST-3) [email protected] (RicodJour)
doth burble:
Maybe everyone doesn't want to "blend in", and maybe his wish to thank
you monetarily is equal to your wish to do it gratis.
As far as the donation for your services, instead of being vindictive
next time you see the guy, donate the money to a charity. You'll feel
good for doing two kindnesses with one act and the brokedown guy feels
he rewarded you for your help.

Appaarently I wasn't clear enough. The guy was an ass. Gave the
impression he thought I was "below" ham, that he was buying my services,
and that I "expected" payment. I told him the first time he offered, to
forget it; but, he just kept on, and on, and on. I don't need crap like
that. If the guy hadn't been such an ass, I might have told him to just
give me a buck, and then we'd both have been happy. I repeat, if I were
to recognize him walking again, I'd pass him by. I would make an
exception in a blizzard, or typhoon - probably.



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!

JB

Joe Barta

in reply to "RicodJour" on 18/02/2006 12:14 PM

19/02/2006 4:07 AM

J T wrote:

> The guy was an ass. Gave the
> impression he thought I was "below" ham, that he was buying my
> services, and that I "expected" payment.

At the risk of being nothing more than an annoying PIA, I would like
to comment that it's very common to believe someone thinks a
particular thing when in fact they are thinking nothing of the sort.
I'm frequently surprised at how bad I am at reading people sometimes.

Don't know you, don't know the other guy... but my own experience
tells me that it's very possible his thinking was nothing like what
you believe. Sometimes what we truly believe are negatives coming from
other people are actually our own little demons getting the best of
us.

Keeping that in mind, before I start thinking that I don't like what
someone else is thinking, I instead start thinking that maybe he's not
thinking what I think he's thinking. :-)

Joe Barta

tt

"tom"

in reply to Joe Barta on 19/02/2006 4:07 AM

20/02/2006 6:09 AM

Well, when I said prejudiced, I meant against black people. At least
around where I was looking at houses, near Carolina Sky Sports
(Fredricksburg or Louisburg, I can't remember). Tom

JJ

in reply to Joe Barta on 19/02/2006 4:07 AM

19/02/2006 2:13 AM

Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 4:07am (EST+5) [email protected] (Joe=A0Barta) doth
burbleth:
<snip> instead start thinking that maybe he's not thinking what I think
he's thinking.

I don't know what he was thinking, and I don't care. What I "know"
is what "I" was thinking - that he was acting like he felt he was
superior to me. I've kown plenty of people, but not many with crappy
attitudes like his.



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!

JJ

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 18/02/2006 2:57 PM

18/02/2006 1:53 PM

Sat, Feb 18, 2006, 2:57pm (EST+5): [email protected] (Dave=A0Jackson) doth
sayeth:
Hey JT, <snip of a bunch of stuff, that if you want to read it, go back
to the post I'm responding to>

I know the difference alright. And I wave at my neighbors, and
they wave at me. We don't talk, unless we meet at the grocery store,
but that doesn't mean one won't help the other if need be. Around here
the city to "country" people think it's great when they wave at the
neighbor, and the neighbor waves back, it makes them feel they "fit in".
You wave at one of the displaced New Yawhers or Joiseyites and they're
apt to turn their backs.

I don't have any junk in my yard. I do have "materials for future
projects" left by my sons. Some of the neighbors do too. No biggie.
Got a beef farm down the road a mile or so. Get the breeze right, and
you remember it quickly. Smells better than a lot of cities.

Your reference to snowblowing, makes me think you aren't from
around here.

I don't expect my neighbors to help me, they don't expect me to
help them. But, if the need arises, I'd help them, and they'd help me.
That's "IF" the need arises, major emergencies. I expect they'd offer
payment, and I'd turn it down; same the other way. Awhile back, I saw a
guy walk away from a car at the side of the road, and started walking,
making no attempt to hitchike. I offered him a ride. Turned out he'd
moved down from Joisey, and was maybe a couple of miles or so from where
he lived. It'd only put me a mile or so out of my way, so instea of
turning at the corner, I went the other way and dropped him off. He'd
offered to pay me, several times, but I kept telling him no. Then when
the SOB got out of my truck, he dropped a $5 bill on the seat. Oh yes,
I took the money. And, made a firm decision that if I ever recognized
him walking again, I'd pass him by. People like that are never gonna
"blend in".



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!

JB

Joe Barta

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 18/02/2006 2:57 PM

18/02/2006 7:44 PM

J T wrote:

> I don't expect my neighbors to help me, they don't expect me to
> help them. But, if the need arises, I'd help them, and they'd
> help me. That's "IF" the need arises, major emergencies. I expect
> they'd offer payment, and I'd turn it down; same the other way.
> Awhile back, I saw a guy walk away from a car at the side of the
> road, and started walking, making no attempt to hitchike. I
> offered him a ride. Turned out he'd moved down from Joisey, and
> was maybe a couple of miles or so from where he lived. It'd only
> put me a mile or so out of my way, so instea of turning at the
> corner, I went the other way and dropped him off. He'd offered to
> pay me, several times, but I kept telling him no. Then when the
> SOB got out of my truck, he dropped a $5 bill on the seat. Oh
> yes, I took the money. And, made a firm decision that if I ever
> recognized him walking again, I'd pass him by. People like that
> are never gonna "blend in".

I've been somewhat torn over this issue myself... doing someone a
favor and they insist on paying you somehow. It's too easy to say that
they just don't "get it" or "blend in".

I'm a movie buff and scenes/characters from movies stick with me when
I contemplate "real life". There was a Robert Duvall/Kevin Costner
flick named Open Range (excellent movie BTW) and in it, Robert Duvall
brings his wounded friend to the town doctor. When Duvall tries to pay
for the doctor's services, the doctor turns him down for perfectly
valid reasons. Duvall says something like "Please take it ma'am, we
insist on paying our own way."

It reinforced what I already knew... people have different views on
what's important. The view that one "pays his own way" is just as
valid as the view that we sometimes wish to do for people without
accepting payment.

The way I handle such a situation is like this...

If I do a kindly favor for a someone that's either a stranger or a
casual acquaintance and they offer payment, I'll decline, telling them
that it was my pleasure. If they insist on payment, I'll accept it
with a sincere thank-you.

The way I look at it, if I'm REALLY the swell guy I think I am, then
I'll ALSO respect THEIR values in the matter.

Joe Barta

P.S. To the somewhat windy and slightly tortured Mr Watson, I humbly
ask for your deference as I post more "shit".

JJ

in reply to Joe Barta on 18/02/2006 7:44 PM

18/02/2006 8:18 PM

Sat, Feb 18, 2006, 7:44pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Joe=A0Barta) doth
burble:
<snip> If I do a kindly favor for a someone that's either a stranger or
a casual acquaintance and they offer payment, I'll decline, telling them
that it was my pleasure. If they insist on payment, I'll accept it with
a sincere thank-you. <snip>

Depends. See my response to the next post.



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!

Ss

Scorp

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 18/02/2006 2:57 PM

21/02/2006 6:17 PM

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:53:24 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

> I know the difference alright. And I wave at my neighbors, and
>they wave at me.

So what does it say that Balderstone gave no response/wave to this
thread :)

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JJ

in reply to Scorp on 21/02/2006 6:17 PM

22/02/2006 9:05 PM

Tue, Feb 21, 2006, 6:17pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Scorp) doth burble:
So what does it say that Balderstone gave no response/wave to this
thread :)

I know not, you'll have to ask Dave. Peraps he figures his wife
couldn't control such a powerful machine.



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 17/02/2006 8:15 PM

18/02/2006 8:52 AM

Life in NC is gooood. Be even better if all
those damn people from New Yawk and New Joisey would move to Florida,
instead of here.

Are you saying people actually move to NC. ???

JJ

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 18/02/2006 8:52 AM

18/02/2006 1:28 PM

Sat, Feb 18, 2006, 8:52am (EST-1) [email protected] (Rick=A0Samuel)
stumbles in mumbling:
Are you saying people actually move to NC. ???

You're not from around here, are you?



JOAT
IThere is no vaccine against stupidity!


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