http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than paying
for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water distillers,
they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have payback pretty
rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda bottle from my tap. Of
course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled well, and the water tests out
almost chemically pure, and it flows 40 gallons a minute, or so I was
told.. Heh heh. Dowed it myself.
JOAT
"I'm an Igor, thur. We don't athk quethtionth."
"Really? Why not?"
"I don't know, thur. I didn't athk."
On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] (J T) wrote innews:4649-4720339E-216@storefull-
> 3335.bay.webtv.net:
>
> >http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> > I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than paying
> > for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water distillers,
> > they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have payback pretty
> > rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda bottle from my tap. Of
> > course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled well, and the water tests out
> > almost chemically pure, and it flows 40 gallons a minute, or so I was
> > told.. Heh heh. Dowed it myself.
>
> > JOAT
>
> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get with
> yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer.
The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
> We keep
> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save money.
How many plastic bottles do you send to the dump each year if
you drink 3 a day?
> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine (bleach)
> in it?
It's already chlorinated from the tap unless you leave the bottles
uncapped for a day or so. If you need to chlorinate unchlorinated
water, a couple of drops of bleach per gallon is plenty.
On Oct 25, 5:47 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> [email protected] (J T) wrote
> >> innews:[email protected]:
>
> >>>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> >>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than
> >>> paying for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water
> >>> distillers, they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have
> >>> payback pretty rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda
> >>> bottle from my tap. Of course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled
> >>> well, and the water tests out almost chemically pure, and it flows
> >>> 40 gallons a minute, or so I was told.. Heh heh. Dowed it
> >>> myself.
>
> >>> JOAT
>
> >> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get
> >> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer.
>
> > The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
> > off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
> > ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
> > of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
>
> Only if you're being pedantic and discounting the impurities.
A Brita will handle the traces of impurities. That's all
the bottlers do. Dasani is typical. It's filtered tap water --
it's actually the same water used to make Coke without the
carbonation, crank, and flavors. It's also more profitable.
True genius.
What impurities come from the plastic bottles? Pthalate
plasticizers, used to make plastics flexible, are also known
as xenoestrogens, or foreign estrogens. Their molecular
shape is similar to human estrogen, and they have much
the same biological activity.
> >> We keep
> >> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>
> > Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save money.
>
> If you can stand to drink your tap water.
Baltimore City tap water. Consistently rated second best in the
country, right after New York City.
> > How many plastic bottles do you send to the dump each year if
> > you drink 3 a day?
>
> >> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine
> >> (bleach) in it?
>
> > It's already chlorinated from the tap unless you leave the bottles
> > uncapped for a day or so.
>
> Where I grew up it wasn't. Came right out of our very own hole in the
> ground.
Springs around where I live have been ruined by
agricultural and residential runoff. Shame.
On Oct 25, 5:05 pm, "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good for you on avoiding the great rip-off of bottled water.
> All the dumb ass hipsters who buy it need to be reminded that one of the
> top sellers is Evian!!!!!!!spell that backwards and it tells something about
> the buyers and how they make fun of the people who pay for it.
Or, as Penn and Teller would say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfPAjUvvnIc
On Oct 25, 9:44 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Father Haskell wrote:
> > On Oct 25, 5:47 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> >>> On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> [email protected] (J T) wrote
> >>>> innews:[email protected]:
>
> >>>>>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> >>>>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than
> >>>>> paying for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home
> >>>>> water
> >>>>> distillers, they run on electric, and purify my own. Should
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> payback pretty rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda
> >>>>> bottle from my tap. Of course, I do have a 210 foot deep
> >>>>> drilled
> >>>>> well, and the water tests out almost chemically pure, and it
> >>>>> flows
> >>>>> 40 gallons a minute, or so I was told.. Heh heh. Dowed it
> >>>>> myself.
>
> >>>>> JOAT
>
> >>>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get
> >>>> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer.
>
> >>> The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
> >>> off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
> >>> ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
> >>> of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
>
> >> Only if you're being pedantic and discounting the impurities.
>
> > A Brita will handle the traces of impurities.
>
> Some traces of some impuritied--a Brita doesn't produce distilled
> water.
Brita is an example. If you want distilled, then distill.
> >That's all
> > the bottlers do. Dasani is typical. It's filtered tap water --
> > it's actually the same water used to make Coke without the
> > carbonation, crank, and flavors. It's also more profitable.
> > True genius.
>
> And if you happen to like how that particular tap water tastes it's
> worthwhile.
If you don't mind the expense.
> > What impurities come from the plastic bottles? Pthalate
> > plasticizers, used to make plastics flexible, are also known
> > as xenoestrogens, or foreign estrogens. Their molecular
> > shape is similar to human estrogen, and they have much
> > the same biological activity.
>
> The simple fact that you feel that that is worth mentioning tells me a
> great deal about you, none of which I like.
Point is, with a little knowledge, I -- or you -- can
tear anything apart and make it look bad. So, bad
as tap water is (it isn't), I can make "healthful"
bottled water look worse.
> >>>> We keep
> >>>> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>
> >>> Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save money.
>
> >> If you can stand to drink your tap water.
>
> > Baltimore City tap water. Consistently rated second best in the
> > country, right after New York City.
>
> Well that's nice if you live in Baltimore.
I'd still not waste money on bottled if possible. I'd filter and/or
distill.
> >>> How many plastic bottles do you send to the dump each year if
> >>> you drink 3 a day?
>
> >>>> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine
> >>>> (bleach) in it?
>
> >>> It's already chlorinated from the tap unless you leave the bottles
> >>> uncapped for a day or so.
>
> >> Where I grew up it wasn't. Came right out of our very own hole in
> >> the ground.
>
> > Springs around where I live have been ruined by
> > agricultural and residential runoff. Shame.
>
> What "springs"?
Chattolanee Spring, Greenspring Valley Road, Pikesville,
MD. Artesian spring. 100 years ago was great, now ruined
by golf course runoff.
On Oct 25, 11:09 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> All of this talk abut dead horses, power plant runoff, three eyed fish etc
> has nothing to do with the water. The water is just fine if you take all
> the bad stuff out of it, it is still water.
Right. You don't think they haul up bottles of Evian to
the ISS every two months.
On Oct 25, 11:25 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > On Oct 25, 9:44 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Father Haskell wrote:
> >>> On Oct 25, 5:47 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> >>>>> On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>> [email protected] (J T) wrote
> >>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>
> >>>>>>>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> >>>>>>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather
> >>>>>>> than
> >>>>>>> paying for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home
> >>>>>>> water
> >>>>>>> distillers, they run on electric, and purify my own. Should
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> payback pretty rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda
> >>>>>>> bottle from my tap. Of course, I do have a 210 foot deep
> >>>>>>> drilled
> >>>>>>> well, and the water tests out almost chemically pure, and it
> >>>>>>> flows
> >>>>>>> 40 gallons a minute, or so I was told.. Heh heh. Dowed it
> >>>>>>> myself.
>
> >>>>>>> JOAT
>
> >>>>>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit
> >>>>>> longer.
>
> >>>>> The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
> >>>>> off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
> >>>>> ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
> >>>>> of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
>
> >>>> Only if you're being pedantic and discounting the impurities.
>
> >>> A Brita will handle the traces of impurities.
>
> >> Some traces of some impuritied--a Brita doesn't produce distilled
> >> water.
>
> > Brita is an example. If you want distilled, then distill.
>
> I want water that tastes good and doesn't stink and I don't want to
> have to carry a bunch of crap around with me to get it.
>
>
>
> >>> That's all
> >>> the bottlers do. Dasani is typical. It's filtered tap water --
> >>> it's actually the same water used to make Coke without the
> >>> carbonation, crank, and flavors. It's also more profitable.
> >>> True genius.
>
> >> And if you happen to like how that particular tap water tastes it's
> >> worthwhile.
>
> > If you don't mind the expense.
>
> >>> What impurities come from the plastic bottles? Pthalate
> >>> plasticizers, used to make plastics flexible, are also known
> >>> as xenoestrogens, or foreign estrogens. Their molecular
> >>> shape is similar to human estrogen, and they have much
> >>> the same biological activity.
>
> >> The simple fact that you feel that that is worth mentioning tells
> >> me
> >> a great deal about you, none of which I like.
>
> > Point is, with a little knowledge, I -- or you -- can
> > tear anything apart and make it look bad. So, bad
> > as tap water is (it isn't), I can make "healthful"
> > bottled water look worse.
>
> What makes you think that health has anything to do with it? I have
> a goal in life of dying of a heart attack, stroke, or accident before
> I get cancer. I don't really give much of a damn about "health".
>
> >>>>>> We keep
> >>>>>> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>
> >>>>> Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save money.
>
> >>>> If you can stand to drink your tap water.
>
> >>> Baltimore City tap water. Consistently rated second best in the
> >>> country, right after New York City.
>
> >> Well that's nice if you live in Baltimore.
>
> > I'd still not waste money on bottled if possible. I'd filter and/or
> > distill.
>
> So now I have to carry a still on the back of my bike along with
> everything else?
A Katyadyn is too heavy?
You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5 gallon
carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously overpriced
as bottled.
On Oct 26, 7:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5 gallon
> > carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
> > cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously overpriced
> > as bottled.
>
> But what's the point of decanting it? It weighs the same either way.
You won't have to drag a trailer or gear way down to climb hills.
On Oct 27, 3:16 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > On Oct 26, 7:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>
> >>> You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5 gallon
> >>> carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
> >>> cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously overpriced
> >>> as bottled.
>
> >> But what's the point of decanting it? It weighs the same either
> >> way.
>
> > You won't have to drag a trailer or gear way down to climb hills.
>
> So how does a "5 gallon carboy" help me if I don't carry the whole 5
> gallons?
Weighs half as much as a 10.
On Oct 27, 4:05 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > On Oct 27, 3:16 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Ferd Farkel wrote:
> >>> On Oct 26, 7:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>
> >>>>> You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5 gallon
> >>>>> carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
> >>>>> cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously overpriced
> >>>>> as bottled.
>
> >>>> But what's the point of decanting it? It weighs the same either
> >>>> way.
>
> >>> You won't have to drag a trailer or gear way down to climb hills.
>
> >> So how does a "5 gallon carboy" help me if I don't carry the whole
> >> 5
> >> gallons?
>
> > Weighs half as much as a 10.
>
> Here's a typical trip for me:http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14782. Please
> tell me how you would have made use of your "5 gallon carboy" other
> than by strapping it onto the bike.
With straps? Like this guy, whose bike runs on pedal power:
http://microship.com/resources/resourcepix/behemothwisc.jpg
Puckdropper wrote:
>
> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get with
> yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer. We keep
> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>
> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine
> (bleach) in it?
>
Stay good? What can go wrong with water?
Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 8:23am (EDT-1) [email protected] (HeyBub) doth
mumble:
Stay good? What can go wrong with water?
For one thing, your neighbor use his trebuchet to drop a dead horse
in your well. Drink out of your well for awhile, then tell us if the
water stayed good. Or go down to the lake at your local nuclear power
plant and catch a few of those bass with legs, or six legged frogs.
JOAT
It's not hard, if you get your mind right.
- Granny Weatherwax
Ferd Farkel wrote:
>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get
>> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer.
>
> The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
> off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
> ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
> of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
>
If you burn Hydrogen in an Oxygen environment, you can make water.
All other water - in spite of the designation "fresh" - is "used" water.
The Mountain Spring water you drink today, quite likely contains a molecule
or two of the very piss that Julius Ceaser added to the Rubicon.
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it.
Only if we didn't bring our own. We use a water filter to refill our own
water bottles, not only saves us money but we aren't throwing away
gazillions of water bottles that end up in landfills. Our tap water is safe
but tasted horrible once we were accustomed to filtered water.
Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 1:21pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (DGDevin) doth
sayeth:
<snip> Our tap water is safe but tasted horrible once we were accustomed
to filtered water.
Mine is not only safe, but I'd say it's the best water I've ever
tasted. Let it run for a few minutes, and it's nice and cold too.
JOAT
It's not hard, if you get your mind right.
- Granny Weatherwax
Good for you on avoiding the great rip-off of bottled water.
All the dumb ass hipsters who buy it need to be reminded that one of the
top sellers is Evian!!!!!!!spell that backwards and it tells something about
the buyers and how they make fun of the people who pay for it.
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than paying
> for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water distillers,
> they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have payback pretty
> rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda bottle from my tap. Of
> course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled well, and the water tests out
> almost chemically pure, and it flows 40 gallons a minute, or so I was
> told.. Heh heh. Dowed it myself.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> "I'm an Igor, thur. We don't athk quethtionth."
> "Really? Why not?"
> "I don't know, thur. I didn't athk."
>
[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:4649-4720339E-216@storefull-
3335.bay.webtv.net:
> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than paying
> for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water distillers,
> they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have payback pretty
> rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda bottle from my tap. Of
> course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled well, and the water tests out
> almost chemically pure, and it flows 40 gallons a minute, or so I was
> told.. Heh heh. Dowed it myself.
>
>
>
> JOAT
Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get with
yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer. We keep
bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine (bleach)
in it?
Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in news:13i166k66oh11d3
@news.supernews.com:
> Puckdropper wrote:
>>
>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get with
>> yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer. We keep
>> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>>
>> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine
>> (bleach) in it?
>>
>
> Stay good? What can go wrong with water?
>
>
Ever had a swimming pool, or pond? Water that sits attracts bacteria,
algae, and other stuff. Big ponds stay clean by the nature of nature,
but they still get stuff growing on top, and in it.
Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than paying
> for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water distillers,
> they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have payback pretty
> rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda bottle from my tap. Of
> course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled well, and the water tests out
> almost chemically pure, and it flows 40 gallons a minute, or so I was
> told.. Heh heh. Dowed it myself.
40 gallons a minute !?!?! How's about piping it to drought-stricken
states?
--
NuWave Dave in Houston
Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 8:14am (EDT-1) [email protected]
(Dave=A0In=A0Houston) doth exclaimeth:
40 gallons a minute !?!?! How's about piping it to drought-stricken
states?
Hah! I've seen how they irrigate out there; half, or more, of the
water evaporates before it even gets to the ground.
JOAT
It's not hard, if you get your mind right.
- Granny Weatherwax
Lee wrote:
> As Ben Franklin said, "In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in
> water there is bacteria." In a number of carefully controlled trials,
> scientists have demonstrated that if we drink 1 liter of TAP water each day,
> at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of
> Escherichia coli, (E. coli) - bacteria found in poop. In other words, we
> are consuming 1 kilo of poop.
> However, we do NOT run that risk when drinking wine or beer (or tequila,
> rum, whiskey or other liquor) because alcohol has to go through a
> purification process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting.
> Remember:
> Water = Poop
> Wine = Health
> Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, than to drink water
> and be full of crap.
> Could that be why Jesus turned the water into wine?
> There is no need to thank me for this valuable information; I'm doing it as
> a public service.
>
>
>
>
>
> "
>
>
Well that did it. No more water for me. From now on it's wine or even
better - whiskey!
>
> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine (bleach)
> in it?
>
> Puckdropper
> --
1. Place it in a large open container such as a lake or river or even a
pond. Keep away from all manmade contamination.
2. Freeze pure water in large quantities such as glacier or ice cap and
keep in cold area.
3. Same way nature has been doing it for millennia.
none of the above are 100% safe, but have worked for some time with
exceptions.
Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 7:01am (EDT-1) [email protected]
(sweet=A0sawdust) doth claimeth:
1. Place it in a large open container such as a lake or river or even a
pond. Keep away from all manmade contamination. <snip>
Do you have any idea what fish do in that water?
JOAT
It's not hard, if you get your mind right.
- Granny Weatherwax
Ferd Farkel wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [email protected] (J T) wrote
>> innews:4649-4720339E-216@storefull- 3335.bay.webtv.net:
>>
>>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>>
>>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than
>>> paying for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water
>>> distillers, they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have
>>> payback pretty rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda
>>> bottle from my tap. Of course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled
>>> well, and the water tests out almost chemically pure, and it flows
>>> 40 gallons a minute, or so I was told.. Heh heh. Dowed it
>>> myself.
>>
>>> JOAT
>>
>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get
>> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer.
>
> The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
> off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
> ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
> of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
Only if you're being pedantic and discounting the impurities.
>> We keep
>> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>
> Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save money.
If you can stand to drink your tap water.
> How many plastic bottles do you send to the dump each year if
> you drink 3 a day?
>
>> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine
>> (bleach) in it?
>
> It's already chlorinated from the tap unless you leave the bottles
> uncapped for a day or so.
Where I grew up it wasn't. Came right out of our very own hole in the
ground.
> If you need to chlorinate unchlorinated
> water, a couple of drops of bleach per gallon is plenty.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Father Haskell wrote:
> On Oct 25, 5:47 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>> On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> [email protected] (J T) wrote
>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>
>>>>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>>
>>>>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than
>>>>> paying for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home
>>>>> water
>>>>> distillers, they run on electric, and purify my own. Should
>>>>> have
>>>>> payback pretty rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda
>>>>> bottle from my tap. Of course, I do have a 210 foot deep
>>>>> drilled
>>>>> well, and the water tests out almost chemically pure, and it
>>>>> flows
>>>>> 40 gallons a minute, or so I was told.. Heh heh. Dowed it
>>>>> myself.
>>
>>>>> JOAT
>>
>>>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get
>>>> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer.
>>
>>> The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
>>> off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
>>> ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
>>> of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
>>
>> Only if you're being pedantic and discounting the impurities.
>
> A Brita will handle the traces of impurities.
Some traces of some impuritied--a Brita doesn't produce distilled
water.
>That's all
> the bottlers do. Dasani is typical. It's filtered tap water --
> it's actually the same water used to make Coke without the
> carbonation, crank, and flavors. It's also more profitable.
> True genius.
And if you happen to like how that particular tap water tastes it's
worthwhile.
> What impurities come from the plastic bottles? Pthalate
> plasticizers, used to make plastics flexible, are also known
> as xenoestrogens, or foreign estrogens. Their molecular
> shape is similar to human estrogen, and they have much
> the same biological activity.
The simple fact that you feel that that is worth mentioning tells me a
great deal about you, none of which I like.
>>>> We keep
>>>> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>>
>>> Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save money.
>>
>> If you can stand to drink your tap water.
>
> Baltimore City tap water. Consistently rated second best in the
> country, right after New York City.
Well that's nice if you live in Baltimore.
>>> How many plastic bottles do you send to the dump each year if
>>> you drink 3 a day?
>>
>>>> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine
>>>> (bleach) in it?
>>
>>> It's already chlorinated from the tap unless you leave the bottles
>>> uncapped for a day or so.
>>
>> Where I grew up it wasn't. Came right out of our very own hole in
>> the ground.
>
> Springs around where I live have been ruined by
> agricultural and residential runoff. Shame.
What "springs"?
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:06:55 -0400, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>And after a week or so then what? Do I spend a day riding all over
>Labrador City looking for another carboy?
>
I know this is way too easy a solution, but how about something like "Not a bad
idea, but it doesn't work for me"?
Then again, if you guys really enjoy pissing on each others feet in the shower,
have at it..
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Ferd Farkel wrote:
> On Oct 25, 9:44 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Father Haskell wrote:
>>> On Oct 25, 5:47 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> [email protected] (J T) wrote
>>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>
>>>>>>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>>
>>>>>>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> paying for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home
>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>> distillers, they run on electric, and purify my own. Should
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> payback pretty rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda
>>>>>>> bottle from my tap. Of course, I do have a 210 foot deep
>>>>>>> drilled
>>>>>>> well, and the water tests out almost chemically pure, and it
>>>>>>> flows
>>>>>>> 40 gallons a minute, or so I was told.. Heh heh. Dowed it
>>>>>>> myself.
>>
>>>>>>> JOAT
>>
>>>>>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit
>>>>>> longer.
>>
>>>>> The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
>>>>> off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
>>>>> ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
>>>>> of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
>>
>>>> Only if you're being pedantic and discounting the impurities.
>>
>>> A Brita will handle the traces of impurities.
>>
>> Some traces of some impuritied--a Brita doesn't produce distilled
>> water.
>
> Brita is an example. If you want distilled, then distill.
I want water that tastes good and doesn't stink and I don't want to
have to carry a bunch of crap around with me to get it.
>>> That's all
>>> the bottlers do. Dasani is typical. It's filtered tap water --
>>> it's actually the same water used to make Coke without the
>>> carbonation, crank, and flavors. It's also more profitable.
>>> True genius.
>>
>> And if you happen to like how that particular tap water tastes it's
>> worthwhile.
>
> If you don't mind the expense.
>
>>> What impurities come from the plastic bottles? Pthalate
>>> plasticizers, used to make plastics flexible, are also known
>>> as xenoestrogens, or foreign estrogens. Their molecular
>>> shape is similar to human estrogen, and they have much
>>> the same biological activity.
>>
>> The simple fact that you feel that that is worth mentioning tells
>> me
>> a great deal about you, none of which I like.
>
> Point is, with a little knowledge, I -- or you -- can
> tear anything apart and make it look bad. So, bad
> as tap water is (it isn't), I can make "healthful"
> bottled water look worse.
What makes you think that health has anything to do with it? I have
a goal in life of dying of a heart attack, stroke, or accident before
I get cancer. I don't really give much of a damn about "health".
>>>>>> We keep
>>>>>> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>>
>>>>> Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save money.
>>
>>>> If you can stand to drink your tap water.
>>
>>> Baltimore City tap water. Consistently rated second best in the
>>> country, right after New York City.
>>
>> Well that's nice if you live in Baltimore.
>
> I'd still not waste money on bottled if possible. I'd filter and/or
> distill.
So now I have to carry a still on the back of my bike along with
everything else?
>>>>> How many plastic bottles do you send to the dump each year if
>>>>> you drink 3 a day?
>>
>>>>>> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine
>>>>>> (bleach) in it?
>>
>>>>> It's already chlorinated from the tap unless you leave the
>>>>> bottles
>>>>> uncapped for a day or so.
>>
>>>> Where I grew up it wasn't. Came right out of our very own hole
>>>> in
>>>> the ground.
>>
>>> Springs around where I live have been ruined by
>>> agricultural and residential runoff. Shame.
>>
>> What "springs"?
>
> Chattolanee Spring, Greenspring Valley Road, Pikesville,
> MD. Artesian spring. 100 years ago was great, now ruined
> by golf course runoff.
None of those springs were in my back yard so I don't see what
relevance they have to the discussion.
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Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 11:25pm [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke) put out:
<snip> I have a goal in life of dying of a heart attack, stroke, or
accident before I get cancer. <snip>
None of those springs were in my back yard so I don't see what relevance
they have to the discussion.
Didn't know I had a choice when I got cancer.
Well, one of the companies bottling the water you drink could be
getting it from one of those springs. That enough relevance?
JOAT
It's not hard, if you get your mind right.
- Granny Weatherwax
J T wrote:
> Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 11:25pm [email protected] (J. Clarke) put
> out:
> <snip> I have a goal in life of dying of a heart attack, stroke, or
> accident before I get cancer. <snip>
> None of those springs were in my back yard so I don't see what
> relevance they have to the discussion.
>
> Didn't know I had a choice when I got cancer.
You don't have a choice, but if both your parents died of it in their
'80s then that gives little incentive to try to live that long.
> Well, one of the companies bottling the water you drink could
> be
> getting it from one of those springs. That enough relevance?
I thought that the point being made was that bottled water was
somebody's city water, not that it was contaminated spring water.
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Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 7:54am [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke)
You don't have a choice, but if both your parents died of it in their
'80s then that gives little incentive to try to live that long. <snip>
I happen to believe in reincarnation. But I also have no incentive
to start early.
JOAT
It's not hard, if you get your mind right.
- Granny Weatherwax
Ferd Farkel wrote:
> On Oct 25, 11:25 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>> On Oct 25, 9:44 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Father Haskell wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 25, 5:47 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> [email protected] (J T) wrote
>>>>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>
>>>>>>>>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>>
>>>>>>>>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> paying for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home
>>>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>>>> distillers, they run on electric, and purify my own. Should
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> payback pretty rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old
>>>>>>>>> soda
>>>>>>>>> bottle from my tap. Of course, I do have a 210 foot deep
>>>>>>>>> drilled
>>>>>>>>> well, and the water tests out almost chemically pure, and it
>>>>>>>>> flows
>>>>>>>>> 40 gallons a minute, or so I was told.. Heh heh. Dowed it
>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>
>>>>>>>>> JOAT
>>
>>>>>>>> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> with yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit
>>>>>>>> longer.
>>
>>>>>>> The only way water can go "bad" is if you leave the cap
>>>>>>> off and it evaporates. Most of your drinking water is quite
>>>>>>> ancient, from melted comets which hit the Earth millions
>>>>>>> of years ago. Still tastes as fresh as the day it arrived.
>>
>>>>>> Only if you're being pedantic and discounting the impurities.
>>
>>>>> A Brita will handle the traces of impurities.
>>
>>>> Some traces of some impuritied--a Brita doesn't produce distilled
>>>> water.
>>
>>> Brita is an example. If you want distilled, then distill.
>>
>> I want water that tastes good and doesn't stink and I don't want to
>> have to carry a bunch of crap around with me to get it.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> That's all
>>>>> the bottlers do. Dasani is typical. It's filtered tap water --
>>>>> it's actually the same water used to make Coke without the
>>>>> carbonation, crank, and flavors. It's also more profitable.
>>>>> True genius.
>>
>>>> And if you happen to like how that particular tap water tastes
>>>> it's
>>>> worthwhile.
>>
>>> If you don't mind the expense.
>>
>>>>> What impurities come from the plastic bottles? Pthalate
>>>>> plasticizers, used to make plastics flexible, are also known
>>>>> as xenoestrogens, or foreign estrogens. Their molecular
>>>>> shape is similar to human estrogen, and they have much
>>>>> the same biological activity.
>>
>>>> The simple fact that you feel that that is worth mentioning tells
>>>> me
>>>> a great deal about you, none of which I like.
>>
>>> Point is, with a little knowledge, I -- or you -- can
>>> tear anything apart and make it look bad. So, bad
>>> as tap water is (it isn't), I can make "healthful"
>>> bottled water look worse.
>>
>> What makes you think that health has anything to do with it? I
>> have
>> a goal in life of dying of a heart attack, stroke, or accident
>> before
>> I get cancer. I don't really give much of a damn about "health".
>>
>>>>>>>> We keep
>>>>>>>> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>>
>>>>>>> Refill liter soda bottles with tap water. Reuse and save
>>>>>>> money.
>>
>>>>>> If you can stand to drink your tap water.
>>
>>>>> Baltimore City tap water. Consistently rated second best in the
>>>>> country, right after New York City.
>>
>>>> Well that's nice if you live in Baltimore.
>>
>>> I'd still not waste money on bottled if possible. I'd filter
>>> and/or
>>> distill.
>>
>> So now I have to carry a still on the back of my bike along with
>> everything else?
>
> A Katyadyn is too heavy?
It takes up volume.
> You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5 gallon
> carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
> cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously overpriced
> as bottled.
But what's the point of decanting it? It weighs the same either way.
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Ferd Farkel wrote:
> On Oct 26, 7:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>
>>> You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5 gallon
>>> carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
>>> cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously overpriced
>>> as bottled.
>>
>> But what's the point of decanting it? It weighs the same either
>> way.
>
> You won't have to drag a trailer or gear way down to climb hills.
So how does a "5 gallon carboy" help me if I don't carry the whole 5
gallons?
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Ferd Farkel wrote:
> On Oct 27, 3:16 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>> On Oct 26, 7:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>
>>>>> You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5 gallon
>>>>> carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
>>>>> cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously overpriced
>>>>> as bottled.
>>
>>>> But what's the point of decanting it? It weighs the same either
>>>> way.
>>
>>> You won't have to drag a trailer or gear way down to climb hills.
>>
>> So how does a "5 gallon carboy" help me if I don't carry the whole
>> 5
>> gallons?
>
> Weighs half as much as a 10.
Here's a typical trip for me:
http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14782. Please
tell me how you would have made use of your "5 gallon carboy" other
than by strapping it onto the bike.
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Ferd Farkel wrote:
> On Oct 27, 4:05 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>> On Oct 27, 3:16 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 26, 7:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Ferd Farkel wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> You have another option. Buy generic purified water in 5
>>>>>>> gallon
>>>>>>> carboys and decant it into your bike bottles. That's not as
>>>>>>> cheap as municipal tap water, but not as ludicrously
>>>>>>> overpriced
>>>>>>> as bottled.
>>
>>>>>> But what's the point of decanting it? It weighs the same
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> way.
>>
>>>>> You won't have to drag a trailer or gear way down to climb
>>>>> hills.
>>
>>>> So how does a "5 gallon carboy" help me if I don't carry the
>>>> whole
>>>> 5
>>>> gallons?
>>
>>> Weighs half as much as a 10.
>>
>> Here's a typical trip for
>> me:http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14782.
>> Please tell me how you would have made use of your "5 gallon
>> carboy"
>> other
>> than by strapping it onto the bike.
>
> With straps? Like this guy, whose bike runs on pedal power:
> http://microship.com/resources/resourcepix/behemothwisc.jpg
And after a week or so then what? Do I spend a day riding all over
Labrador City looking for another carboy?
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All of this talk abut dead horses, power plant runoff, three eyed fish etc
has nothing to do with the water. The water is just fine if you take all
the bad stuff out of it, it is still water.
"Puckdropper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (J T) wrote in news:4649-4720339E-216@storefull-
> 3335.bay.webtv.net:
>
>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>>
>> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than paying
>> for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water distillers,
>> they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have payback pretty
>> rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda bottle from my tap. Of
>> course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled well, and the water tests out
>> almost chemically pure, and it flows 40 gallons a minute, or so I was
>> told.. Heh heh. Dowed it myself.
>>
>>
>>
>> JOAT
>
> Well, there's one benefit to the bottled stuff that you don't get with
> yours: It's sealed so it will stay good quite a bit longer. We keep
> bottled water in the cars because people get thirsty...
>
> How would you preserve water anyway? Without dumping Chlorine (bleach)
> in it?
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
>
> To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:11:42 -0400, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20055639/
>
> I know a lot of you guys drinkk it. Pernally, rather than paying
>for little bottle of water, I'd get one of those home water distillers,
>they run on electric, and purify my own. Should have payback pretty
>rapid. Personally, I just fill up an old soda bottle from my tap. Of
>course, I do have a 210 foot deep drilled well, and the water tests out
>almost chemically pure, and it flows 40 gallons a minute, or so I was
>told.. Heh heh. Dowed it myself.
>
>
We're using a reverse osmosis? setup for the kitchen sink and frig...
The water here won't hurt ya, but it sure tastes and smells like it will... lol
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As Ben Franklin said, "In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in
water there is bacteria." In a number of carefully controlled trials,
scientists have demonstrated that if we drink 1 liter of TAP water each day,
at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of
Escherichia coli, (E. coli) - bacteria found in poop. In other words, we
are consuming 1 kilo of poop.
However, we do NOT run that risk when drinking wine or beer (or tequila,
rum, whiskey or other liquor) because alcohol has to go through a
purification process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting.
Remember:
Water = Poop
Wine = Health
Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, than to drink water
and be full of crap.
Could that be why Jesus turned the water into wine?
There is no need to thank me for this valuable information; I'm doing it as
a public service.
"