A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front of
the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord was
plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the cord's
outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the conductors.
(At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS and
CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner. When
walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
confined area during construction of my desk.
Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
of an infinite number of insults.
To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
dave
I can just see you, next time with a Forstner in hand, decked out in a
bomb squad outfit!
dave
charlie b wrote:
> Not alone in the Did I Do That Department
>
> I'd made a wooden rack to hold carving chisels.
> Got a canvas roll up thing for the carving
> chisels and decided to modify the rack to
> take the butt chisel set that was homeless.
>
> the existing racks had stepped holes with a slot
> to allow removal from the front. The smaller
> hole in the steo needed enlarging to accomodate
> the fatter shanked butt chisels. The top with the
> holes in it was joined with finger joints - no
> glue - just to leave open the option of changes
> in the future. Removed the top, clamped it in
> a 15 pound machinist vise on top of a backer board.
> Using regular twiest drills I got the first four
> holes enlarged adequately. The fifth and sixth
> chisels had fatter shanks - a bit over 1/2" - the
> largest diameter "normal" drill bit I Had.
>
> What I SHOULD HAVE DONE was to use the 1/2 inch and
> rat tail file the hole to size. But I had a
> forstner bit that was just perfect. For those who
> ski "catching an outside edge" describes what
> happened next. The tooth on the bit caught the
> edge of the existing hole, attempted to take off
> far more than it could chew and something had to
> give.
>
> What gave was the shank of the bit - now with a
> 10 degree bend in it. That in turn caused it to throw
> the piece of wood AND the 15 pound vise off the table -
> after a revolution or two to build up momentum -
> fortunately not AT ME - before I got to the OFF switch.
>
> AFTER climbing out from under the adjacent base unit of
> the mortising machine, I spent five minutes trying to find
> the vise and to date I have only foumd part of the
> piece I was attempting to drill through.
>
> An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure -
> but not even a ton of prevention can do much to
> overcome stupidity.
>
> "And hey - let's be careful out there." - Hills Street
> Blues.
>
> charlie b
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:21:36 -0800, "Patrick Olguin"
<[email protected]> scribbled
>
>"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
>> Had a similar experience I need to share.
>
>[Michael nails it]
>
>ROTFLMFAO
>
>Hey Luigi, I think you may have something to add to the anti-FAQ.
As someone once said about the Crowbar FAQ, an instant classic! And to
say I almost missed it, as I tend to avoid BAD threads. Luckily,
Paddy, you're on my "watch list" (telling Agent to automatically
download your posts). Michael has now made it too, joining the other
members of the moron bench. (I don't know why he wasn't on it before,
because his posts are always informative or funny, when not both.)
Michael: that honour (honor, Keith) and a couple or three loonies will
buy you an espresso.
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address
"Man is a tool-using animal. Weak in himself and of small stature,
he stands on a basis of some half-square foot, has to straddle out
his legs lest the very winds supplant him. Nevertheless, he can
use tools, can devise tools: with these the granite mountain melts
into light dust before him: seas are his smooth highway, winds and
fire his unwearying steeds. Nowhere do you find him without tools.
Without tools he is nothing: with tools he is all."
Thomas Carlyle
Ya know wha tI like for repairs like this is that self fusing silicone
tape. Really neat, and at HD too!
John
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> electricians tape has already been applied! I've got a LOT worse
> nicks in extension cords that have been repaired years ago. :) I
> would guess that in that thick cord I nicked today, the depth of nick
> is LESS than a 1/16". More of a wake up call to be more aware of the
> BS lower door position! It could have been catastrophic, considering
> a shower of sparks had the blade hit the conductors; the dust collect
> running with the inlet less than a foot from the action; the separator
> and DC right behind the BS. I DO have 5 fire extinguishers on the
> premises...
>
> "Anything can happen to anyone at anytime" is the name of this tune.
>
>
> dave
>
> Juergen Hannappel wrote:
>
>> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>
>>> the cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the
>>> cord's outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the
>>> conductors. (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
>>
>>
>>
>> You did damege it and you should have it replaced. The only advantage
>> that not going all the way to the conductors had is that the saw blade
>> is not damaged, which it would have been by the sort circuit current
>> (wich *should* have reached a few hundred amps)
>>
>
Not alone in the Did I Do That Department
I'd made a wooden rack to hold carving chisels.
Got a canvas roll up thing for the carving
chisels and decided to modify the rack to
take the butt chisel set that was homeless.
the existing racks had stepped holes with a slot
to allow removal from the front. The smaller
hole in the steo needed enlarging to accomodate
the fatter shanked butt chisels. The top with the
holes in it was joined with finger joints - no
glue - just to leave open the option of changes
in the future. Removed the top, clamped it in
a 15 pound machinist vise on top of a backer board.
Using regular twiest drills I got the first four
holes enlarged adequately. The fifth and sixth
chisels had fatter shanks - a bit over 1/2" - the
largest diameter "normal" drill bit I Had.
What I SHOULD HAVE DONE was to use the 1/2 inch and
rat tail file the hole to size. But I had a
forstner bit that was just perfect. For those who
ski "catching an outside edge" describes what
happened next. The tooth on the bit caught the
edge of the existing hole, attempted to take off
far more than it could chew and something had to
give.
What gave was the shank of the bit - now with a
10 degree bend in it. That in turn caused it to throw
the piece of wood AND the 15 pound vise off the table -
after a revolution or two to build up momentum -
fortunately not AT ME - before I got to the OFF switch.
AFTER climbing out from under the adjacent base unit of
the mortising machine, I spent five minutes trying to find
the vise and to date I have only foumd part of the
piece I was attempting to drill through.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure -
but not even a ton of prevention can do much to
overcome stupidity.
"And hey - let's be careful out there." - Hills Street
Blues.
charlie b
DexAZ wrote:
>
> Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
>
> I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
>
> Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics store.
> No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty extension
> cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
> around and through other displays until it reached the new display. But the
> extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet extra,
> shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead of
> me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15' and
> then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos, radios and
> TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
> side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly burn
> on my hand.
>
> LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the cord
> plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
>
> I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before finally
> tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
> everything when working with electricity.
>
> Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
>
> DexAZ
Lesson: When shortening an extension cord, ALWAYS cut off the
PLUG end. :-)
...lew...
DJ Delorie <[email protected]> writes:
>FYI our house is also one of only four buildings in our town that has
>built-in fire sprinklers. We also have a 24/7 monitoring service
>hooked into the sprinklers, if they go off the fire dept is called.
>We even have one of those nifty twist-on connectors for the fire
>trucks.
Do you have a huge water line coming into your house? I don't see how a
connection for the fire dept would be any good without a large water line
to back it up.
I thought a little bit about sprinklers for my house when it was built,
but I couldn't find anyone doing residential systems in the area.
Brian Elfert
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:19:55 -0800, "Patrick Olguin"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> P.O.,
>>
>> Methinks that attention is what drives you to spar with me with
>> over-long diatribes geared towards your target audience.
>
>I'm a fast typist. Regarding effort spent, a battle of wits with the likes
>of BAD is the physical equivalent of flicking a booger (a dry, crusty one at
>that) out the car window. The temporary relief of a minor annoyance. Not
>pretty, but necessary in a pinch.
THEN WHY DO YOU PERSIST IN DOING IT?
Take it to email, guys. He'll troll just as jerkily there.
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Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Calm down Patrick; you sound as if you are on the verge of apoplexy!
Not even close. I'm just kinda sick of your shit.
>
> The cord was just nicked! If i replaced every cord with a scratch on
> it, I'd be replacing cords left and right.
Dave,
Not even a moron like you would tape up a "nicked" cord. The reason
you got such a stern response is to (appropriately) denounce your
technique/attitude with extreme prejudice. If you drive 85 on the
freeways in the Bay Area, you are an asshole, and there's not much any
of us can do about it other than take note of vehicles proceeding at
unsafe speeds, carrying the next soon-to-be-abused woodworking toy
down the freeway.
Enjoy your day.
O'Deen
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> AAMOF, driving 85 is driving with the flow of traffic on most of the
> freeways around here.
Ya got me there, BAD. I had no idea the rec.woodworking short bus
could go that fast. You da man.
I live in L.A. We invented traffic, but we didn't come up with the
torture chamber that is the SF Bay Area. Ever driven east on I80,
like say from Van Ness at oh... any friggin time of day? The last
person to go 85 on that stretch of road was accelerating at 10 meters
per sec2, over a gap in the bridge. Oh yeah - try driving 85 as you
pass over the Dumbarton Bridge at rush hour, either getting to Menlo
Park or even the other way to Fremont or Hayward. Or better, get your
tin lizzy flying at 85 on 17 through Oakland or just about anywhere.
I'd like to see you goose it along at faster than 12mph as you careen
through Burlingame on 101, at say 7:45am. Sure, there a couple of
wide open roads (like parts of 280, 580, 680, blah blah blah). The
only place 85mph is going with the flow of traffic is past Livermore,
and there's suspicion the only reason that happens is because there's
a linear accelerator running under the freeway (Insert Jetson sound
effects here).
BAD - you appear to have delusions of adequacy. I wonder if you're
not really a person, but a sociology class experiment (and not a good
one, BTW). You troll along, begging for the "miscreants," to come
along and say bad things about you, and then act all hurt, surprised
(and now, amazingly, a bit self-righteously indignant) when you get
what you've begged for. Is attention really that important to you?
Listen BAD, there's only one reason to take you to task on your
various adventures in idiocy - it's so someone else brand new to the
group or to this hobby might be enlightened in what NOT to do.
I have no real expectation that you will get a clue. Matter of fact,
I'm sure you can't. You couldn't get a clue if you stripped naked,
rubbed yourself with clue musk, went to the middle of the clue
breeding grounds at the height of clue breeding season when it was
full of horny clues and did the clue mating dance for days. (tm
[email protected], in alt.revenge).
Given that, I won't even suggest you stop your whining when called on
your garbage "thoughts" on the newsgroup. Your sort of endearing in
an obtuse, neurotic way.
O'Venom
"DJ Delorie" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
:
: Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> writes:
: > I DO have 5 fire extinguishers on the premises...
:
: This is a good opportunity to remind folks that fire extinguishers are
: a really important part of any wood shop! Make sure they're up to
: date, and located where you'll be able to get to them in the worst
: situation.
:
: I mention this only because we had an opportunity to use one of ours
: recently (candle in the living room). Having the right "tools" for
: the job reduced the panic and made short work of a bad situation.
:
: FYI our house is also one of only four buildings in our town that has
: built-in fire sprinklers. We also have a 24/7 monitoring service
: hooked into the sprinklers, if they go off the fire dept is called.
: We even have one of those nifty twist-on connectors for the fire
: trucks.
:
: Hope for the best, but plan for the worst!
That's one major setup you have for a fire system in your house. What kind of discount did you get
on your homeowners policy ?
thanks for the sentiment, Swingster.
dave
Swingman wrote:
> ... and most likely completely ignoring weather conditions. You are in a
> land of self centered scofflaw's, more stupid than otherwise, with lawyers
> for hire and justice for sale. Makes you wonder sometimes whether the
> Islamic fundamentalist don't have a valid point.
>
> Speed on brother, Hell ain't half full.
>
Hey LJ, anyone ever accuse you of being an unwanted gate crasher? Go
back to whatever it is that you do well... (which sure isn't being decent)
Why do you attempt to control others? They can respond to anyone they
like. Are you the NG moderator? If you keep it up I'll write a
limerick about you and I guarantee you won't like it.
dave
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:19:55 -0800, "Patrick Olguin"
> <[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>
>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>P.O.,
>>>
>>>Methinks that attention is what drives you to spar with me with
>>>over-long diatribes geared towards your target audience.
>>
>>I'm a fast typist. Regarding effort spent, a battle of wits with the likes
>>of BAD is the physical equivalent of flicking a booger (a dry, crusty one at
>>that) out the car window. The temporary relief of a minor annoyance. Not
>>pretty, but necessary in a pinch.
>
>
> THEN WHY DO YOU PERSIST IN DOING IT?
>
> Take it to email, guys. He'll troll just as jerkily there.
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Life is full of little surprises. * Comprehensive Website Development
> --Pandora * http://www.diversify.com
Calm down Patrick; you sound as if you are on the verge of apoplexy!
The cord was just nicked! If i replaced every cord with a scratch on
it, I'd be replacing cords left and right. Moderation, my good (?) man,
moderation.
Just so you can sleep nights, I'll take exceptional care of myself. Is
it ok if I get on the freeway? When I do I usually drive at least 85
MPH. Does that offend or distress you?
Take a deeeeep breath. Let it out...
Take another.
Good.
Feel better?
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
>>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
>>of an infinite number of insults.
>
>
> Head chief miscreant reporting for duty. For some gawdawful reason, the
> subject header caused a song by Britney Spears to jump into my head. And
> now I'm left with the image of Brain AWOL Dave bumping and grinding around
> the shop with a bad belly ring, slicing up his power cords.
>
> Dave,
> If you aren't in the habit of completely replacing (or at least shortening -
> eliminating the damaged portion) power cords you've damaged, irrespective of
> the creative method used to damage said power cord, then you really are an
> idiot with a death wish.
>
> I repeat - if you use a damaged power cord, you are inarguably stupid (or
> perhaps just unbelievably ignorant). No ifs ands or buts. Electrical tape
> is an unsulator, and not intended as protection against abrasion, pinching
> or other kinds of stress that the flexible outer cord is designed to protect
> against (sorry bh). Power cords have usage ratings, electrical tape does
> not. All sorts of contaminants can get under the tape and further damage
> the conductive insulation, resulting in fire or death... perhaps even death
> by fire. Not a pretty sight.
>
> Wake up and smell the turpentine, Dave. You don't have, "a great respect
> for 'lectricity." Look, shit happens in a shop, and we cut things we don't
> intend to. If we're lucky, we survive with no damage to bodily parts and
> live to tell about it. If we're smart, we change the way we do things. If
> we're funny, we post about it on rec.norm and everyone has a good laugh.
>
> Apparently, if we're Dave, we compound the accident by employing a dumbass
> hatchet-job repair to something we allegedly respect. Sorry if this post had
> too much slime in it, such that you were unable to find the pearl of wisdom,
> Dave. But someone reading it might assume it's ok to patch a damaged cord
> with electrical tape. It ain't.
>
> As annoying as you appear, I doubt anyone on the NG would want to see you
> appear in this year's Darwin Awards, even as an honorable mention.
>
> O'Deen
>
>
You're welcome, Dave ... just see if you can't do a better job containing
them within your state. The number of 20 something twits with ultra-white
teeth, plastic enhanced body parts, cell phones to ear, sitting cross legged
in the driver's seat doing 85 on cruise control, three feet from the bumper
of the car in front, is getting out of hand hereabouts.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"Bay Area Dave"wrote in message
> thanks for the sentiment, Swingster.
> Swingman wrote:
>
> > ... and most likely completely ignoring weather conditions. You are in a
> > land of self centered scofflaw's, more stupid than otherwise, with
lawyers
> > for hire and justice for sale. Makes you wonder sometimes whether the
> > Islamic fundamentalist don't have a valid point.
> >
> > Speed on brother, Hell ain't half full.
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message .
> BAD - you appear to have delusions of adequacy. I wonder if you're
> not really a person, but a sociology class experiment (and not a good
> one, BTW). You troll along, begging for the "miscreants," to come
> along and say bad things about you, and then act all hurt, surprised
> (and now, amazingly, a bit self-righteously indignant) when you get
> what you've begged for. Is attention really that important to you?
>
I suspect you're not the first to think that Paddy ;-)
Y'know, there comes a time when sufficient potential is focussed on a point
and it reaches that critical stage where resistance is overcome and - zap.
Now, a wise person would learn and walk away, others, well - they wet their
finger and...
What's it to be Davey? Ya feeling lucky punk? Ya gonna lick that finger?
Sometimes ya can't help but watch.
O'Groggy
Michael Baglio
> >
> As I was
> using a 28oz Estwing at the time,
Mike,
Thanks for letting us know about the Estwing. You sure seem to know about
hammers so I want to ask a couple of questions. Do you have to use Estwing
nails or will other brands work with it? Do they come in different sizes?
The 16d nails I used seem to keep going right through the back of the sheets
of plywood I was nailing. My wife really gets pissed off when I nail things
together on the dining room table.
Ed
With age comes experience, experience hard earned at times. After a couple
such "close calls", I've learned to follow the same steps as you point out.
Kill the power at the breaker, check that it is truly dead with a meter and
touch the hot to ground. When you get rushed, or distracted, are doing work
when tired or doing work you are not _fully_ comfortable doing, you are
asking for trouble. Trouble, I can assure you, is only to willing and able
to oblige.
I also learned to do my own checking. It is my life and my reputation, so I
will do my own checking BEFORE I hook up. Was recently working with a crew
installing new cell sites. One guy doing the breaker install work in a
rectifier cabinet (-27VDC 800Amps), a couple guys running power cables
overhead and a fourth hooking the cable to the new gear. Twice on the first
day, the guy hooking up the cable drew a HUGE arc as he touched the cable to
the frame of the new gear. He'd asked the breaker guy if the new breakers
were open and was assured it was safe to hook up. -27VDC on a 100A breaker
puts on a nice show as the breaker trips! I trace the cables myself and
make sure the _correct_ breakers are open before I check with a VOM and then
hook up the cables. The guys I was working with were also made aware that I
do not find ANY humor what-so-ever in workplace pranks. We were hired to do
a job, quickly, _properly_ and without damaging the clients property, (or
each other). We were not hired to do a bunch of crap best suited for the
out-takes reel of that "JackASS" show. As for the guy doing the breaker
work that first day? Well, he left the project a little earlier than
planed.
DexAZ
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dex,
>
> Hey look on the bright side! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
> I almost was electrocuted at the tender age of 7 and remember it
> vividly to this day, so I know you must have been "shocked and awed" by
> the fireworks.
>
> I've got a great respect for 'lectricity and whenever I'm working on a
> circuit, I not only check the lines with a meter (AFTER of course,
> shutting off the breaker), I will touch the hot to ground as a
> functional test that there are indeed no nasty electrons flowing through
> that circuit. I'd rather have a breaker pop (assuming that somehow the
> wrong breaker was shut off, or that somehow the circuit became
> energized) or weld a wire than let it flow through me.
>
> I usually cut my wires with hedge trimmers! :)
>
> dave
>
> DexAZ wrote:
>
> > Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
> >
> > I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
> >
> > Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics
store.
> > No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty
extension
> > cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
> > around and through other displays until it reached the new display. But
the
> > extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet
extra,
> > shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead
of
> > me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15'
and
> > then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos, radios
and
> > TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
> > side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly
burn
> > on my hand.
> >
> > LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the
cord
> > plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
> >
> > I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before finally
> > tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
> > everything when working with electricity.
> >
> > Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
> >
> > DexAZ
> >
> > "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
> >>done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front of
> >>the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord was
> >>plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
> >>cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the cord's
> >>outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the conductors.
> >> (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
> >>
> >>So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS and
> >>CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner. When
> >>walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
> >>confined area during construction of my desk.
> >>
> >>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
> >>of an infinite number of insults.
> >>
> >>To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
> >>
> >>dave
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
electricians tape has already been applied! I've got a LOT worse nicks
in extension cords that have been repaired years ago. :) I would guess
that in that thick cord I nicked today, the depth of nick is LESS than a
1/16". More of a wake up call to be more aware of the BS lower door
position! It could have been catastrophic, considering a shower of
sparks had the blade hit the conductors; the dust collect running with
the inlet less than a foot from the action; the separator and DC right
behind the BS. I DO have 5 fire extinguishers on the premises...
"Anything can happen to anyone at anytime" is the name of this tune.
dave
Juergen Hannappel wrote:
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>
>>the cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the
>>cord's outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the
>>conductors. (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
>
>
> You did damege it and you should have it replaced. The only advantage
> that not going all the way to the conductors had is that the saw blade
> is not damaged, which it would have been by the sort circuit current
> (wich *should* have reached a few hundred amps)
>
P.O.
Just when I think there is hope, you mis-spell "sentivities", and
"vaccuous".
I further find your use of "arbitrary" to be, in itself, arbitrary, nay,
random! Lampooning me is NOT a poignant activity either. You need to
spend more time with your head in a Funk (oh yeah...& Wagnalls).
You cannot pull off the charade of being a man of great literary talents
with substandard posts such as your last.
P.O was really a poser
Or maybe a brown noser
No matter the title
To my opinion, I'm entitled
He's not the best composer
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>you have a penchant for being gross, crude, and vile...ALL AT THE SAME
>
> TIME!
>
> BAD,
> Perhaps it's a bit arbitrary, but I rank clarity, directness, accuracy and
> blunt, yet somehow poignant lampooning of you, just slightly above the need
> to tread lightly on your prissy, puffy, petulant sentivities. Vexed, vapid
> and vaccuous is no way to go through life, fellah.
>
> *FLICK*
> Damn... hit the Buick in the next lane. Aww, it'll wash off.
>
> O'Deen
>
>
Masterful spoof, LMFAO. Oh, the toolmanity!
Greg
"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message .
> Had a similar experience I need to share. About a week ago, I was
> framing up the north wall of the workshop and when I was hammering in
> the top plate I missed the nail and almost hit my thumb! As I was
> using a 28oz Estwing at the time, you can imagine the shivers I got as
> I saw a dent in the 2X4 and realized how much damage I could have
> done!! Yessiree, being careful is the name of this tune!!!
<snip of wunnerful stuff>
"Brian Elfert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Do you have a huge water line coming into your house? I don't see how a
> connection for the fire dept would be any good without a large water line
> to back it up.
The fire department probably has tankers and brings the water with them. It
takes a surprising small amount of water to put out a fire if sprayed
properly.
I've seen more information about residential sprinklers in the past year
than I have in the past 50. I think it will be very common in the future.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Hey, now, no oblique references to ex-Mr. Jolie. He's one of my 4
favorite thespians.
Shall we count YOUR multiple references to the same subject? At least
my "repeat faux pas" was a mere single occurrence; yours number
considerably more.
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>then how come you screwed up "plateua"? ROTFLMAO!!!! Next time, spell
>>it "plateau" for more credibility, hillbilly.
>
>
> Alas, you weren't worth the second click. Bummer. This is at least your
> second redneck reference. Do you have something against rural folk? Or is
> it simply your post-traumatic response to having watched Deliverence a few
> too many times?
>
> Billy Bob O'Deen
>
>
DJ,
Is that a single family, unattached home?
dave
DJ Delorie wrote:
snip
> FYI our house is also one of only four buildings in our town that has
> built-in fire sprinklers. We also have a 24/7 monitoring service
> hooked into the sprinklers, if they go off the fire dept is called.
> We even have one of those nifty twist-on connectors for the fire
> trucks.
>
> Hope for the best, but plan for the worst!
ah, Rumpty, don't you have a remedial arm saw to run?
Your little joke while not entirely without some limited merit, is
getting a little long in the tooth.
Try to follow Tom's example and come up with something original, or I'll
have to find break in some new talent.
dave
Rumpty wrote:
> How did the corn come out Dave?
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
>
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> then how come you screwed up "plateua"? ROTFLMAO!!!! Next time,
> spell
> it "plateau" for more credibility, hillbilly.
>
> You whine more about me than I could ever whine about all the
> miscreants. Time to check the mirror, my ostentatious friend.
(Dave -- Psssst! Be wise - drop it. <g> Let the other guy get the last
word...
-- Mark)
AAMOF, driving 85 is driving with the flow of traffic on most of the
freeways around here (even during commute hours if one is driving in the
"reverse commute direction"). That concept may be beyond your
understanding. This isn't downtown Manhattan, my foul mouthed friend.
You set yourself up as some kind of authority of sorts. Kinda silly,
when all you can do is spew venom and speak of things such as my local
traffic as if you knew what goes on around here.
Please plonk me, to save me the trouble, ok?
That's the least you can do.
Thanks!
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Calm down Patrick; you sound as if you are on the verge of apoplexy!
>
>
> Not even close. I'm just kinda sick of your shit.
>
>>The cord was just nicked! If i replaced every cord with a scratch on
>>it, I'd be replacing cords left and right.
>
>
> Dave,
> Not even a moron like you would tape up a "nicked" cord. The reason
> you got such a stern response is to (appropriately) denounce your
> technique/attitude with extreme prejudice. If you drive 85 on the
> freeways in the Bay Area, you are an asshole, and there's not much any
> of us can do about it other than take note of vehicles proceeding at
> unsafe speeds, carrying the next soon-to-be-abused woodworking toy
> down the freeway.
>
> Enjoy your day.
>
> O'Deen
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<fine prose, filled with wisdom snipped>>
LMAO!
Myx
Hey! You can't play if that's all you are going to contribute. and I
use the term "contribute" LOOSELY!
dave
Myxylplyk wrote:
> "Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> <fine prose, filled with wisdom snipped>>
>
> LMAO!
>
> Myx
>
>
On 14 Nov 2003, Patrick Olguin spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
> "Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
>> Had a similar experience I need to share.
>
> [Michael nails it]
>
> ROTFLMFAO
>
> Hey Luigi, I think you may have something to add to the anti-FAQ.
>
> O'Deen
I think Michael has created a uniquely rec.woodworking phenomenon here:
ScaryFunny©.
I'm jealous.
funny you should mention that; my experience made me wonder about an
interlock switch on the doors...didn't know another brand actually has
them. cool!
dave
Steve Turner wrote:
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>> To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
>
>
> My MiniMax has interlock switches on the doors; the motor won't run if
> the doors are open.
>
LOL! Go, Michael.
So was that the smooth head or the dimpled head hammer? I don't recall
you mentioning the color either...of the handle. What about the label;
did you soak it in Goo Off so all the adhesive came off cleanly? Did
you know that it will smell gross for a good 3 weeks after applying Goo
Off at a rate equal or greater than 4 picoliters per square inch, unless
completely removed with a double layer of Brawny paper towels applied to
the area within 30 seconds of application and left thereupon until the
rate of absorption slows to .2 MM per second. Be sure to discard the
used Brawny towels in an approved metal container, labeled for hazardous
waste.
I've heard that the judicious use of a nail gun will obviate the need to
purchase a Swinghard hammer and prevent possible thumbnail destruction.
You will STILL need a bottle of Goo Off for the nail gun...and lots
of paper towels. You'll save on Band-Aids, though.
dave
Michael Baglio
snip
> Had a similar experience I need to share. About a week ago, I was
> framing up the north wall of the workshop and when I was hammering in
> the top plate I missed the nail and almost hit my thumb! As I was
> using a 28oz Estwing at the time, you can imagine the shivers I got as
> I saw a dent in the 2X4 and realized how much damage I could have
> done!! Yessiree, being careful is the name of this tune!!!
>
> How could that have happened you ask? Well the theories are many, but
> I really believe I probably swung wide of the nail. It could have
> been a momentary attention lapse on my part, or it could have been a
> shift in the wind direction, causing just enough refraction in my
> swing that the hammer head missed the nail. Did I mention it was an
> Estwing? Got it at Lowe's several years ago for about $29. Been a
> great hammer. Had to give up that Stanley I was using, it just
> couldn't take the abuse, and besides it vibrated. I called Stanley
> about it, but they said it was "supposed" to vibrate. Yeah right!
> I didn't believe them for a minute, but no matter how many times I
> called customer service they inSISted hammers vibrate. Well, that did
> it. I went out and bought an Estwing. I knew that since they were
> lots of money they had to be good, and boy I've never looked back.
> Sure, it vibrates, too, but it's a MAZing how much better 29 dollar
> vibrations feel than cheapie Stanley vibrations do. So, good
> vibration's the name of this tune.
>
> Anyway when I missed the nail I put a really big dent in the top
> plate. I hope I didn't impringe the integrity of the top 2X4, does
> anybody here know if I have to replace the top 2X4? Will I have to
> replace them all??? I hope not. I may have to call Canfor and
> complain about how easy their 2X4's dent. I don't think I should have
> to put up with inferior wood. I think maybe it wasn't the wood's
> fault though. It was probably the hammer. I need a better one. Do
> they make them more than $29? Do they make 2X4s that don't dent?
> Maybe oak or ash or do they make nails with bigger heads so they still
> get hit when the wind blows (?) with a more money hammer? Really want
> to know. Only want the best. Does anyone here have any REAL
> exprerience with this and not just your unbromided opinions?
>
> So, after I calmed down from that near fatal
> hammerheadmissthenailthing, I hammered another nail close to where the
> first one was because the first nail jumped OUT of the hole it was
> started in. It fell IN the dirt! I had to use another nail! It was
> okay though because I had another one. WHEW, that(!) was lucky.
> I'm wondering though, can anyone here tell me if I should make sure to
> plug that first hole? I'm sure you can understand how important it is
> that the sturtctural integity not be imfamized in the construction
> here. Strentgth is the name of this tune. So, if ANYbody knows, let
> me know. Oh, I almost forgot. I nailed the second one in about
> 3/8ths of an inch away from where the first one ((would have) gone if
> it had gone(!)) but it didn't. So does that make a difference? It
> probably doesn't but maybe does. Does ANYONE know? I want to make
> sure that it's strong and stuff. What kind of filler do you use? I
> could make a dowel the exact size of the nail shaft part thing with
> some vernereal calipers I got from Lee at Robin Valley, but I'm not
> sure there accurate enough. Okay. Cool. I just ordered the next
> size up! They have GREAT customer service. They were way more money
> but it's important because quality is the name of this time. I wonder
> why they don't sell Estwings. Maybe they do! Does anyone know?
> Should I glue the dowel into the hole? I'm pretty concerned about
> wood movement, wood being natural and stuff. I think I'll just glue
> the top part that goes in the top part and let the rest float. I read
> about float, does anyone know? Is regular glue OK? How about Gorilla
> glue? I'll need gloves for that though right? OK! Cool. I just
> ordered up a case of gloves. I know 144 gloves is a lot, but money's
> no object is the name of this tune and I MIGHT, (I say might, not
> definetly but might miss), a NAIL like I did last week. I'll need
> more gloves if I do, so I have them now. At least I will. Does
> anyone know the number for the tracking thing for FEdEX? I had them
> shipped overnight because prompt is the name of this time. I set my
> Estwing down and it's dark now and I can't find it. Does anyone know
> where it is?
Barry, residents in San Jose regularly joke, "drive 85 on 85". I used
to do a reverse commute 40 miles on 680 where the flow is closer to 90
MPH. The CHP doesn't have enough patrol cars to keep us near the speed
limits of 65 and 70.
Is there snow on the ground back there?
dave
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:07:29 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>AAMOF, driving 85 is driving with the flow of traffic on most of the
>>freeways around here
>
>
> It certainly can be here in the Northeast as well. I've been on
> interstates in New York and New England where all three lanes are
> moving at 80-85 MPH.
>
> Barry
Now THAT'S more like it! You brought a bit of a grin to this troll.
Could I mention a few inaccuracies, however, Tom? I don't have an
unlimited budget; hence the picky tool purchases to maximize their
usefulness and my enjoyment. I don't have limitless time, either.
I've wasted no ones time, as to respond to me is at their sole
discretion. Do I not speak the truth? Do I hold a gun to the
miscreant's heads? I didn't even commission your poem; I merely offered
you a forum in which to show you literary skills, of which I'm in awe.
You never did answer the question about counting Cramer as one of your
bosom buddies. Do you feel a particular kinship with Cramer? Do you
aspire to impress and entertain him? Is he your kind of guy?
Keep up the humor. Much nicer than Cramerisms.
dave
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:52:24 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Now it's YOUR turn to fire your writers. First Keeter couldn't come up
>>with anything noteworthy, and now you decide plagiarism is the best you
>>can muster. Tom, Tom, Tom, I have greater expectations of you than this!
>>
>>Please try again.
>
>
> There once was a young man called BAD
> His life, on the whole, rather sad
> He found out the Wreck
> And he said, "What the heck!"
> "Here's a great place for me to be BAD!"
>
> He had an unlimited budget
> He had almost limitless time
> He asked lots of frivolous questions
> He wasted some good people's time
>
> If a troll is a duck
> Then he walked like a duck
> And he quacked like a duck
> But he's really a ****
> Something that rhymes
>
> Oh, the Wreck this dude truly did haunt
> He would bray, he would cry, he would taunt
> He got folks in a lather
> With all of his blather
> This old rec-dot-norm dilletante
>
> I for one have grown tired of BAD
> His presence here makes me feel sad
> And long for the old days
> And all of the "Just Say's"
> The witty repartees
> When even on bad days
> Reading the Wreck made me glad
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards, Tom
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
> Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
> http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
... and most likely completely ignoring weather conditions. You are in a
land of self centered scofflaw's, more stupid than otherwise, with lawyers
for hire and justice for sale. Makes you wonder sometimes whether the
Islamic fundamentalist don't have a valid point.
Speed on brother, Hell ain't half full.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
> Barry, residents in San Jose regularly joke, "drive 85 on 85". I used
> to do a reverse commute 40 miles on 680 where the flow is closer to 90
> MPH. The CHP doesn't have enough patrol cars to keep us near the speed
> limits of 65 and 70.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:07:57 GMT, Michael Baglio
<mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Had a similar experience I need to share. About a week ago, I was
>framing up the north wall of the workshop and when I was hammering in
>the top plate I missed the nail and almost hit my thumb! As I was
>using a 28oz Estwing at the time, you can imagine the shivers I got as
>I saw a dent in the 2X4 and realized how much damage I could have
>done!! Yessiree, being careful is the name of this tune!!!
>
<snip genius level funny shit>
Michael, that was some genius level funny shit!
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
So how did GE apply Six Sigma to the guy that got zapped??
Rich
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You can never have too much water in a nuclear power plant. <g> And you
> can't be too careful around buzzing electrons. Although I didn't know
> the fellow, while I was working at General Electric, someone was
> electrocuted on the job. Everyone said he was always careful and had
> been an electrician for many years. Apparently something was hot that
> he had expected to be safe. He wasn't a newbie, and he wasn't dumb, but
> he's dead, nonetheless.
>
> DexAZ wrote:
>
> > With age comes experience, experience hard earned at times. After a
couple
> > such "close calls", I've learned to follow the same steps as you point
out.
> > Kill the power at the breaker, check that it is truly dead with a meter
and
> > touch the hot to ground. When you get rushed, or distracted, are doing
work
> > when tired or doing work you are not _fully_ comfortable doing, you are
> > asking for trouble. Trouble, I can assure you, is only to willing and
able
> > to oblige.
> >
> > I also learned to do my own checking. It is my life and my reputation,
so I
> > will do my own checking BEFORE I hook up. Was recently working with a
crew
> > installing new cell sites. One guy doing the breaker install work in a
> > rectifier cabinet (-27VDC 800Amps), a couple guys running power cables
> > overhead and a fourth hooking the cable to the new gear. Twice on the
first
> > day, the guy hooking up the cable drew a HUGE arc as he touched the
cable to
> > the frame of the new gear. He'd asked the breaker guy if the new
breakers
> > were open and was assured it was safe to hook up. -27VDC on a 100A
breaker
> > puts on a nice show as the breaker trips! I trace the cables myself and
> > make sure the _correct_ breakers are open before I check with a VOM and
then
> > hook up the cables. The guys I was working with were also made aware
that I
> > do not find ANY humor what-so-ever in workplace pranks. We were hired
to do
> > a job, quickly, _properly_ and without damaging the clients property,
(or
> > each other). We were not hired to do a bunch of crap best suited for
the
> > out-takes reel of that "JackASS" show. As for the guy doing the breaker
> > work that first day? Well, he left the project a little earlier than
> > planed.
> >
> > DexAZ
> >
> > "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Dex,
> >>
> >>Hey look on the bright side! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
> >> I almost was electrocuted at the tender age of 7 and remember it
> >>vividly to this day, so I know you must have been "shocked and awed" by
> >>the fireworks.
> >>
> >>I've got a great respect for 'lectricity and whenever I'm working on a
> >>circuit, I not only check the lines with a meter (AFTER of course,
> >>shutting off the breaker), I will touch the hot to ground as a
> >>functional test that there are indeed no nasty electrons flowing through
> >>that circuit. I'd rather have a breaker pop (assuming that somehow the
> >>wrong breaker was shut off, or that somehow the circuit became
> >>energized) or weld a wire than let it flow through me.
> >>
> >>I usually cut my wires with hedge trimmers! :)
> >>
> >>dave
> >>
> >>DexAZ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
> >>>
> >>>I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
> >>>
> >>>Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics
> >
> > store.
> >
> >>>No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty
> >
> > extension
> >
> >>>cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
> >>>around and through other displays until it reached the new display.
But
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet
> >
> > extra,
> >
> >>>shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead
> >
> > of
> >
> >>>me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15'
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos,
radios
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
> >>>side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly
> >
> > burn
> >
> >>>on my hand.
> >>>
> >>>LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the
> >
> > cord
> >
> >>>plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
> >>>
> >>>I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before
finally
> >>>tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
> >>>everything when working with electricity.
> >>>
> >>>Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
> >>>
> >>>DexAZ
> >>>
> >>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
> >>>>done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front
of
> >>>>the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord
was
> >>>>plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
> >>>>cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the
cord's
> >>>>outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the
conductors.
> >>>> (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
> >>>>
> >>>>So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS
and
> >>>>CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner.
When
> >>>>walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
> >>>>confined area during construction of my desk.
> >>>>
> >>>>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can
think
> >>>>of an infinite number of insults.
> >>>>
> >>>>To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
> >>>>
> >>>>dave
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
> of an infinite number of insults.
>
Naaa - I'm still hacked off about the time I saw'd thru the aluminum fence
on my miter gauge. A "cast the first stone" situation...
Geez, Tom, I'm beginning to suspect that you don't like me. <sniff>
dave
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:49:09 -0800, "Patrick Olguin"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>As annoying as you appear, I doubt anyone on the NG would want to see you
>>appear in this year's Darwin Awards, even as an honorable mention.
>
>
> Let's just wait until we see the polling numbers on that one.
>
>
>
> Regards, Tom
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
> Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
> http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:22:49 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
>of an infinite number of insults.
>
>To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
Bad Monkey!
(and all along I thought Keeter was wrong for spanking the monkey in
public
he wasn't so wrong, nor a little too strong
Brain Area Dead is a nudnik)
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
You can never have too much water in a nuclear power plant. <g> And you
can't be too careful around buzzing electrons. Although I didn't know
the fellow, while I was working at General Electric, someone was
electrocuted on the job. Everyone said he was always careful and had
been an electrician for many years. Apparently something was hot that
he had expected to be safe. He wasn't a newbie, and he wasn't dumb, but
he's dead, nonetheless.
DexAZ wrote:
> With age comes experience, experience hard earned at times. After a couple
> such "close calls", I've learned to follow the same steps as you point out.
> Kill the power at the breaker, check that it is truly dead with a meter and
> touch the hot to ground. When you get rushed, or distracted, are doing work
> when tired or doing work you are not _fully_ comfortable doing, you are
> asking for trouble. Trouble, I can assure you, is only to willing and able
> to oblige.
>
> I also learned to do my own checking. It is my life and my reputation, so I
> will do my own checking BEFORE I hook up. Was recently working with a crew
> installing new cell sites. One guy doing the breaker install work in a
> rectifier cabinet (-27VDC 800Amps), a couple guys running power cables
> overhead and a fourth hooking the cable to the new gear. Twice on the first
> day, the guy hooking up the cable drew a HUGE arc as he touched the cable to
> the frame of the new gear. He'd asked the breaker guy if the new breakers
> were open and was assured it was safe to hook up. -27VDC on a 100A breaker
> puts on a nice show as the breaker trips! I trace the cables myself and
> make sure the _correct_ breakers are open before I check with a VOM and then
> hook up the cables. The guys I was working with were also made aware that I
> do not find ANY humor what-so-ever in workplace pranks. We were hired to do
> a job, quickly, _properly_ and without damaging the clients property, (or
> each other). We were not hired to do a bunch of crap best suited for the
> out-takes reel of that "JackASS" show. As for the guy doing the breaker
> work that first day? Well, he left the project a little earlier than
> planed.
>
> DexAZ
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Dex,
>>
>>Hey look on the bright side! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
>> I almost was electrocuted at the tender age of 7 and remember it
>>vividly to this day, so I know you must have been "shocked and awed" by
>>the fireworks.
>>
>>I've got a great respect for 'lectricity and whenever I'm working on a
>>circuit, I not only check the lines with a meter (AFTER of course,
>>shutting off the breaker), I will touch the hot to ground as a
>>functional test that there are indeed no nasty electrons flowing through
>>that circuit. I'd rather have a breaker pop (assuming that somehow the
>>wrong breaker was shut off, or that somehow the circuit became
>>energized) or weld a wire than let it flow through me.
>>
>>I usually cut my wires with hedge trimmers! :)
>>
>>dave
>>
>>DexAZ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
>>>
>>>I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
>>>
>>>Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics
>
> store.
>
>>>No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty
>
> extension
>
>>>cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
>>>around and through other displays until it reached the new display. But
>
> the
>
>>>extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet
>
> extra,
>
>>>shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead
>
> of
>
>>>me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15'
>
> and
>
>>>then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos, radios
>
> and
>
>>>TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
>>>side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly
>
> burn
>
>>>on my hand.
>>>
>>>LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the
>
> cord
>
>>>plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
>>>
>>>I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before finally
>>>tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
>>>everything when working with electricity.
>>>
>>>Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
>>>
>>>DexAZ
>>>
>>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
>>>>done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front of
>>>>the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord was
>>>>plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
>>>>cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the cord's
>>>>outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the conductors.
>>>> (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
>>>>
>>>>So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS and
>>>>CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner. When
>>>>walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
>>>>confined area during construction of my desk.
>>>>
>>>>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
>>>>of an infinite number of insults.
>>>>
>>>>To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
>>>>
>>>>dave
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
> of an infinite number of insults.
Head chief miscreant reporting for duty. For some gawdawful reason, the
subject header caused a song by Britney Spears to jump into my head. And
now I'm left with the image of Brain AWOL Dave bumping and grinding around
the shop with a bad belly ring, slicing up his power cords.
Dave,
If you aren't in the habit of completely replacing (or at least shortening -
eliminating the damaged portion) power cords you've damaged, irrespective of
the creative method used to damage said power cord, then you really are an
idiot with a death wish.
I repeat - if you use a damaged power cord, you are inarguably stupid (or
perhaps just unbelievably ignorant). No ifs ands or buts. Electrical tape
is an unsulator, and not intended as protection against abrasion, pinching
or other kinds of stress that the flexible outer cord is designed to protect
against (sorry bh). Power cords have usage ratings, electrical tape does
not. All sorts of contaminants can get under the tape and further damage
the conductive insulation, resulting in fire or death... perhaps even death
by fire. Not a pretty sight.
Wake up and smell the turpentine, Dave. You don't have, "a great respect
for 'lectricity." Look, shit happens in a shop, and we cut things we don't
intend to. If we're lucky, we survive with no damage to bodily parts and
live to tell about it. If we're smart, we change the way we do things. If
we're funny, we post about it on rec.norm and everyone has a good laugh.
Apparently, if we're Dave, we compound the accident by employing a dumbass
hatchet-job repair to something we allegedly respect. Sorry if this post had
too much slime in it, such that you were unable to find the pearl of wisdom,
Dave. But someone reading it might assume it's ok to patch a damaged cord
with electrical tape. It ain't.
As annoying as you appear, I doubt anyone on the NG would want to see you
appear in this year's Darwin Awards, even as an honorable mention.
O'Deen
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> P.O.,
>
> Methinks that attention is what drives you to spar with me with
> over-long diatribes geared towards your target audience.
I'm a fast typist. Regarding effort spent, a battle of wits with the likes
of BAD is the physical equivalent of flicking a booger (a dry, crusty one at
that) out the car window. The temporary relief of a minor annoyance. Not
pretty, but necessary in a pinch.
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> you have a penchant for being gross, crude, and vile...ALL AT THE SAME
TIME!
BAD,
Perhaps it's a bit arbitrary, but I rank clarity, directness, accuracy and
blunt, yet somehow poignant lampooning of you, just slightly above the need
to tread lightly on your prissy, puffy, petulant sentivities. Vexed, vapid
and vaccuous is no way to go through life, fellah.
*FLICK*
Damn... hit the Buick in the next lane. Aww, it'll wash off.
O'Deen
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Brian Elfert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > Do you have a huge water line coming into your house? I don't see how a
> > connection for the fire dept would be any good without a large water
line
> > to back it up.
>
> The fire department probably has tankers and brings the water with them.
It
> takes a surprising small amount of water to put out a fire if sprayed
> properly.
>
> I've seen more information about residential sprinklers in the past year
> than I have in the past 50. I think it will be very common in the future.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
there's lots of places that it is now a code requirement for new residential
construction. scottsdale and carefree az are two. my town is considering it.
i live sufficiently far from a hydrant that i had them install sprinklers in
my home when i built it.
BAD -
The next time I bother with the spellchecker for a drive-by aimed in your
general direction will be the first time. And I'm not one to claim any
literary prowess. I do, however, aspire to rise above your apparent
clueless, effete, limp-wristed, tippy-toe sissyish whining.
Ya know, I occasionally see bumperstickers advocating we "Stop the
Violence!" I'm all for that, but before anyone can get to that lofty
plateua, something's gotta be done about the whining.
O'Deen
p.s. I just this minute noticed the spellcheck button located smack dab in
the middle of this newsreader's tool bar. I clicked it. No errors. There's
a first time for everything. BAD - you were worth a click (hint: rhymes with
flick)
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> then how come you screwed up "plateua"? ROTFLMAO!!!! Next time, spell
> it "plateau" for more credibility, hillbilly.
Alas, you weren't worth the second click. Bummer. This is at least your
second redneck reference. Do you have something against rural folk? Or is
it simply your post-traumatic response to having watched Deliverence a few
too many times?
Billy Bob O'Deen
Now it's YOUR turn to fire your writers. First Keeter couldn't come up
with anything noteworthy, and now you decide plagiarism is the best you
can muster. Tom, Tom, Tom, I have greater expectations of you than this!
Please try again.
dave
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:22:49 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
>>of an infinite number of insults.
>>
>>To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
>
>
>
> Bad Monkey!
>
> (and all along I thought Keeter was wrong for spanking the monkey in
> public
>
> he wasn't so wrong, nor a little too strong
>
> Brain Area Dead is a nudnik)
>
>
>
> Regards, Tom
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
> Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
> http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:54:22 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>you have a penchant for being gross, crude, and vile...ALL AT THE SAME TIME!
>
Yep. You've got to be impressed by the sheer virtuosity of the thing.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:49:09 -0800, "Patrick Olguin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>As annoying as you appear, I doubt anyone on the NG would want to see you
>appear in this year's Darwin Awards, even as an honorable mention.
Let's just wait until we see the polling numbers on that one.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics store.
No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty extension
cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
around and through other displays until it reached the new display. But the
extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet extra,
shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead of
me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15' and
then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos, radios and
TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly burn
on my hand.
LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the cord
plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before finally
tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
everything when working with electricity.
Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
DexAZ
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
> done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front of
> the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord was
> plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
> cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the cord's
> outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the conductors.
> (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
>
> So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS and
> CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner. When
> walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
> confined area during construction of my desk.
>
> Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
> of an infinite number of insults.
>
> To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
>
> dave
>
In article <[email protected]>, "Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> P.O.,
>>
>> Methinks that attention is what drives you to spar with me with
>> over-long diatribes geared towards your target audience.
>
>I'm a fast typist. Regarding effort spent, a battle of wits with the likes
>of BAD is the physical equivalent of flicking a booger (a dry, crusty one at
>that) out the car window. The temporary relief of a minor annoyance. Not
>pretty, but necessary in a pinch.
>
>
Dammit, O'Deen (cough, cough, spit), I almost choked on my coffee. Put a
warning flag on these, willya?
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:52:24 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>Now it's YOUR turn to fire your writers. First Keeter couldn't come up
>with anything noteworthy, and now you decide plagiarism is the best you
>can muster. Tom, Tom, Tom, I have greater expectations of you than this!
>
>Please try again.
There once was a young man called BAD
His life, on the whole, rather sad
He found out the Wreck
And he said, "What the heck!"
"Here's a great place for me to be BAD!"
He had an unlimited budget
He had almost limitless time
He asked lots of frivolous questions
He wasted some good people's time
If a troll is a duck
Then he walked like a duck
And he quacked like a duck
But he's really a ****
Something that rhymes
Oh, the Wreck this dude truly did haunt
He would bray, he would cry, he would taunt
He got folks in a lather
With all of his blather
This old rec-dot-norm dilletante
I for one have grown tired of BAD
His presence here makes me feel sad
And long for the old days
And all of the "Just Say's"
The witty repartees
When even on bad days
Reading the Wreck made me glad
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
I keep expecting a post from Bennett Leeds about this point in a thread.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"Mark Jerde" wrote in message
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
> > then how come you screwed up "plateua"? ROTFLMAO!!!! Next time,
> > spell
> > it "plateau" for more credibility, hillbilly.
> >
> > You whine more about me than I could ever whine about all the
> > miscreants. Time to check the mirror, my ostentatious friend.
>
> (Dave -- Psssst! Be wise - drop it. <g> Let the other guy get the last
> word...
>
> -- Mark)
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:07:29 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>AAMOF, driving 85 is driving with the flow of traffic on most of the
>freeways around here
It certainly can be here in the Northeast as well. I've been on
interstates in New York and New England where all three lanes are
moving at 80-85 MPH.
Barry
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:49:47 GMT, Scott Cramer
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 14 Nov 2003, Patrick Olguin spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
>>
>> "Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
>>> Had a similar experience I need to share.
>>
>> [Michael nails it]
>>
>> ROTFLMFAO
>>
>> Hey Luigi, I think you may have something to add to the anti-FAQ.
>>
>> O'Deen
>
>I think Michael has created a uniquely rec.woodworking phenomenon here:
>
>ScaryFunny©.
Now _I'm_ LMFAO. ScaryFunny©. I like that.
Michael
Dex,
Hey look on the bright side! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
I almost was electrocuted at the tender age of 7 and remember it
vividly to this day, so I know you must have been "shocked and awed" by
the fireworks.
I've got a great respect for 'lectricity and whenever I'm working on a
circuit, I not only check the lines with a meter (AFTER of course,
shutting off the breaker), I will touch the hot to ground as a
functional test that there are indeed no nasty electrons flowing through
that circuit. I'd rather have a breaker pop (assuming that somehow the
wrong breaker was shut off, or that somehow the circuit became
energized) or weld a wire than let it flow through me.
I usually cut my wires with hedge trimmers! :)
dave
DexAZ wrote:
> Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
>
> I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
>
> Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics store.
> No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty extension
> cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
> around and through other displays until it reached the new display. But the
> extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet extra,
> shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead of
> me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15' and
> then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos, radios and
> TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
> side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly burn
> on my hand.
>
> LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the cord
> plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
>
> I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before finally
> tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
> everything when working with electricity.
>
> Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
>
> DexAZ
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
>>done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front of
>>the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord was
>>plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
>>cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the cord's
>>outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the conductors.
>> (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
>>
>>So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS and
>>CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner. When
>>walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
>>confined area during construction of my desk.
>>
>>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
>>of an infinite number of insults.
>>
>>To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
>>
>>dave
>>
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>P.O.
>
>Just when I think there is hope, you mis-spell "sentivities", and
>"vaccuous".
Oh, lookie, a spelling fLame. Can't you do any better than that?
>
>I further find your use of "arbitrary" to be, in itself, arbitrary, nay,
>random! Lampooning me is NOT a poignant activity either. You need to
>spend more time with your head in a Funk (oh yeah...& Wagnalls).
In contrast to yourself, who needs to spend *less* time with your head in
another location which will, in the interests of decency, remain unnamed.
You were reading my mind...I'm bored with it now...
dave
Mark Jerde wrote:
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>>then how come you screwed up "plateua"? ROTFLMAO!!!! Next time,
>>spell
>>it "plateau" for more credibility, hillbilly.
>>
>>You whine more about me than I could ever whine about all the
>>miscreants. Time to check the mirror, my ostentatious friend.
>
>
> (Dave -- Psssst! Be wise - drop it. <g> Let the other guy get the last
> word...
>
> -- Mark)
>
>
Hell you out to see how many short ext cords I have due to the electric lawn
mower I have constantly eating them <G>
"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
>
> I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
>
> Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics
store.
> No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty
extension
> cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
> around and through other displays until it reached the new display. But
the
> extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet extra,
> shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead of
> me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15'
and
> then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos, radios
and
> TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
> side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly
burn
> on my hand.
>
> LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the
cord
> plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
>
> I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before finally
> tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
> everything when working with electricity.
>
> Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
>
> DexAZ
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
> > done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front of
> > the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord was
> > plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
> > cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the cord's
> > outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the conductors.
> > (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
> >
> > So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS and
> > CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner. When
> > walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
> > confined area during construction of my desk.
> >
> > Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can think
> > of an infinite number of insults.
> >
> > To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
> >
> > dave
> >
>
>
you have a penchant for being gross, crude, and vile...ALL AT THE SAME TIME!
Take a limerick lesson from Tommy...
Battle of the wits? I think not. I don't argue with vulgarity. I
still think you're double wide friends, when not careening down the
bayou in their pickups, gun racks a-jiggling, are your number one fans!
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>P.O.,
>>
>>Methinks that attention is what drives you to spar with me with
>>over-long diatribes geared towards your target audience.
>
>
> I'm a fast typist. Regarding effort spent, a battle of wits with the likes
> of BAD is the physical equivalent of flicking a booger (a dry, crusty one at
> that) out the car window. The temporary relief of a minor annoyance. Not
> pretty, but necessary in a pinch.
>
>
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:55:37 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Is there snow on the ground back there?
Not really, but I'm sure Killington is building up the fake stuff.
Barry
P.O.,
Methinks that attention is what drives you to spar with me with
over-long diatribes geared towards your target audience. Can you deny
that you put substantial (however misplaced) effort into entertaining
yourself and your boorish buddies? I doubt you are making the effort to
impress me.
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
snip> (and now, amazingly, a bit self-righteously indignant) when you get
> what you've begged for. Is attention really that important to you?
snip
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:22:49 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
>done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front of
>the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord was
>plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
>cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the cord's
>outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the conductors.
> (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
>
>So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS and
>CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner. When
>walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
>confined area during construction of my desk.
Had a similar experience I need to share. About a week ago, I was
framing up the north wall of the workshop and when I was hammering in
the top plate I missed the nail and almost hit my thumb! As I was
using a 28oz Estwing at the time, you can imagine the shivers I got as
I saw a dent in the 2X4 and realized how much damage I could have
done!! Yessiree, being careful is the name of this tune!!!
How could that have happened you ask? Well the theories are many, but
I really believe I probably swung wide of the nail. It could have
been a momentary attention lapse on my part, or it could have been a
shift in the wind direction, causing just enough refraction in my
swing that the hammer head missed the nail. Did I mention it was an
Estwing? Got it at Lowe's several years ago for about $29. Been a
great hammer. Had to give up that Stanley I was using, it just
couldn't take the abuse, and besides it vibrated. I called Stanley
about it, but they said it was "supposed" to vibrate. Yeah right!
I didn't believe them for a minute, but no matter how many times I
called customer service they inSISted hammers vibrate. Well, that did
it. I went out and bought an Estwing. I knew that since they were
lots of money they had to be good, and boy I've never looked back.
Sure, it vibrates, too, but it's a MAZing how much better 29 dollar
vibrations feel than cheapie Stanley vibrations do. So, good
vibration's the name of this tune.
Anyway when I missed the nail I put a really big dent in the top
plate. I hope I didn't impringe the integrity of the top 2X4, does
anybody here know if I have to replace the top 2X4? Will I have to
replace them all??? I hope not. I may have to call Canfor and
complain about how easy their 2X4's dent. I don't think I should have
to put up with inferior wood. I think maybe it wasn't the wood's
fault though. It was probably the hammer. I need a better one. Do
they make them more than $29? Do they make 2X4s that don't dent?
Maybe oak or ash or do they make nails with bigger heads so they still
get hit when the wind blows (?) with a more money hammer? Really want
to know. Only want the best. Does anyone here have any REAL
exprerience with this and not just your unbromided opinions?
So, after I calmed down from that near fatal
hammerheadmissthenailthing, I hammered another nail close to where the
first one was because the first nail jumped OUT of the hole it was
started in. It fell IN the dirt! I had to use another nail! It was
okay though because I had another one. WHEW, that(!) was lucky.
I'm wondering though, can anyone here tell me if I should make sure to
plug that first hole? I'm sure you can understand how important it is
that the sturtctural integity not be imfamized in the construction
here. Strentgth is the name of this tune. So, if ANYbody knows, let
me know. Oh, I almost forgot. I nailed the second one in about
3/8ths of an inch away from where the first one ((would have) gone if
it had gone(!)) but it didn't. So does that make a difference? It
probably doesn't but maybe does. Does ANYONE know? I want to make
sure that it's strong and stuff. What kind of filler do you use? I
could make a dowel the exact size of the nail shaft part thing with
some vernereal calipers I got from Lee at Robin Valley, but I'm not
sure there accurate enough. Okay. Cool. I just ordered the next
size up! They have GREAT customer service. They were way more money
but it's important because quality is the name of this time. I wonder
why they don't sell Estwings. Maybe they do! Does anyone know?
Should I glue the dowel into the hole? I'm pretty concerned about
wood movement, wood being natural and stuff. I think I'll just glue
the top part that goes in the top part and let the rest float. I read
about float, does anyone know? Is regular glue OK? How about Gorilla
glue? I'll need gloves for that though right? OK! Cool. I just
ordered up a case of gloves. I know 144 gloves is a lot, but money's
no object is the name of this tune and I MIGHT, (I say might, not
definetly but might miss), a NAIL like I did last week. I'll need
more gloves if I do, so I have them now. At least I will. Does
anyone know the number for the tracking thing for FEdEX? I had them
shipped overnight because prompt is the name of this time. I set my
Estwing down and it's dark now and I can't find it. Does anyone know
where it is?
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:28:38 +0100, Juergen Hannappel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>(wich *should* have reached a few hundred amps)
Do they not have circuit breakers or fuses 'cross the pond? <G>
Barry
It only takes once!
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You can never have too much water in a nuclear power plant. <g> And you
> can't be too careful around buzzing electrons. Although I didn't know
> the fellow, while I was working at General Electric, someone was
> electrocuted on the job. Everyone said he was always careful and had
> been an electrician for many years. Apparently something was hot that
> he had expected to be safe. He wasn't a newbie, and he wasn't dumb, but
> he's dead, nonetheless.
>
> DexAZ wrote:
>
> > With age comes experience, experience hard earned at times. After a
couple
> > such "close calls", I've learned to follow the same steps as you point
out.
> > Kill the power at the breaker, check that it is truly dead with a meter
and
> > touch the hot to ground. When you get rushed, or distracted, are doing
work
> > when tired or doing work you are not _fully_ comfortable doing, you are
> > asking for trouble. Trouble, I can assure you, is only to willing and
able
> > to oblige.
> >
> > I also learned to do my own checking. It is my life and my reputation,
so I
> > will do my own checking BEFORE I hook up. Was recently working with a
crew
> > installing new cell sites. One guy doing the breaker install work in a
> > rectifier cabinet (-27VDC 800Amps), a couple guys running power cables
> > overhead and a fourth hooking the cable to the new gear. Twice on the
first
> > day, the guy hooking up the cable drew a HUGE arc as he touched the
cable to
> > the frame of the new gear. He'd asked the breaker guy if the new
breakers
> > were open and was assured it was safe to hook up. -27VDC on a 100A
breaker
> > puts on a nice show as the breaker trips! I trace the cables myself and
> > make sure the _correct_ breakers are open before I check with a VOM and
then
> > hook up the cables. The guys I was working with were also made aware
that I
> > do not find ANY humor what-so-ever in workplace pranks. We were hired
to do
> > a job, quickly, _properly_ and without damaging the clients property,
(or
> > each other). We were not hired to do a bunch of crap best suited for
the
> > out-takes reel of that "JackASS" show. As for the guy doing the breaker
> > work that first day? Well, he left the project a little earlier than
> > planed.
> >
> > DexAZ
> >
> > "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Dex,
> >>
> >>Hey look on the bright side! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
> >> I almost was electrocuted at the tender age of 7 and remember it
> >>vividly to this day, so I know you must have been "shocked and awed" by
> >>the fireworks.
> >>
> >>I've got a great respect for 'lectricity and whenever I'm working on a
> >>circuit, I not only check the lines with a meter (AFTER of course,
> >>shutting off the breaker), I will touch the hot to ground as a
> >>functional test that there are indeed no nasty electrons flowing through
> >>that circuit. I'd rather have a breaker pop (assuming that somehow the
> >>wrong breaker was shut off, or that somehow the circuit became
> >>energized) or weld a wire than let it flow through me.
> >>
> >>I usually cut my wires with hedge trimmers! :)
> >>
> >>dave
> >>
> >>DexAZ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Dave, welcome to the "I can't believe I was that stupid" club!
> >>>
> >>>I'm a member too. (aren't we all?)
> >>>
> >>>Years ago, I was setting up a display in the center of an electronics
> >
> > store.
> >
> >>>No power available except on the walls. Plugged a new heavy-duty
> >
> > extension
> >
> >>>cord into the nearest outlet on the wall. Routed the cord over, under,
> >>>around and through other displays until it reached the new display.
But
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>extension cord still way too long. No problem, allow a couple feet
> >
> > extra,
> >
> >>>shorten the cord and put a new end on. (hold on, you are getting ahead
> >
> > of
> >
> >>>me) Dug out my new, heavy-duty side-cutters to lop off the excess +15'
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>then install a new jack. FLASH!!! POW!!! BOOM!!! (the stereos,
radios
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>TVs on one side of the store go dead) "Awe S#$T!!!" My nice, new, H/D
> >>>side-cutters were now a H/D useless, sort-of strippers & I had an ugly
> >
> > burn
> >
> >>>on my hand.
> >>>
> >>>LESSON LEARNED: _Always_ check to make sure some idiot has not left the
> >
> > cord
> >
> >>>plugged into the outlet BEFORE you go lopping of the other end!
> >>>
> >>>I kept that useless side-cutters in my tool box for years before
finally
> >>>tossing them out. They reminded my how important it is to double check
> >>>everything when working with electricity.
> >>>
> >>>Glad you only ended up with a nicked cord, Dave.
> >>>
> >>>DexAZ
> >>>
> >>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>A few minutes ago I cut several boards on the BS. As soon as I was
> >>>>done, I looked down to see a power cord from the CMS draped in front
of
> >>>>the BS and the lower wheel housing of the BS was open! The CMS cord
was
> >>>>plugged into an overhead reel on the other side of the BS, causing the
> >>>>cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the
cord's
> >>>>outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the
conductors.
> >>>> (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
> >>>>
> >>>>So how, you ask, did I not notice the housing door was open? The BS
and
> >>>>CMS share a section of the shop, along with the DP, in one corner.
When
> >>>>walking up to the BS I have to kind of side step to it due to the
> >>>>confined area during construction of my desk.
> >>>>
> >>>>Miscreants, have a field day with my mistake. I'm sure y'all can
think
> >>>>of an infinite number of insults.
> >>>>
> >>>>To the rest of you folks: keep those BS doors closed! :)
> >>>>
> >>>>dave
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> writes:
[...]
> the cord to come in contact with the BS blade. I found a nick in the
> cord's outer insulation; thank goodness it didn't penetrate to the
> conductors. (At least I didn't damage the cord to my newest toy.)
You did damege it and you should have it replaced. The only advantage
that not going all the way to the conductors had is that the saw blade
is not damaged, which it would have been by the sort circuit current
(wich *should* have reached a few hundred amps)
--
Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> writes:
> I DO have 5 fire extinguishers on the premises...
This is a good opportunity to remind folks that fire extinguishers are
a really important part of any wood shop! Make sure they're up to
date, and located where you'll be able to get to them in the worst
situation.
I mention this only because we had an opportunity to use one of ours
recently (candle in the living room). Having the right "tools" for
the job reduced the panic and made short work of a bad situation.
FYI our house is also one of only four buildings in our town that has
built-in fire sprinklers. We also have a 24/7 monitoring service
hooked into the sprinklers, if they go off the fire dept is called.
We even have one of those nifty twist-on connectors for the fire
trucks.
Hope for the best, but plan for the worst!
Brian Elfert <[email protected]> writes:
> Do you have a huge water line coming into your house? I don't see
> how a connection for the fire dept would be any good without a large
> water line to back it up.
It's the other way around; the connection is backup for our well, for
running the sprinklers. The system is as follows:
* primary 1.5HP well pump; good for about 8 GPM long term, or about
1-2 sprinkler heads. There's 750 gallons of water stored in the
well.
* secondary 40 GPM pump on a 300 gal storage tank. Good for another 8
heads, kicks in when system pressure drops too low.
* tertiary is the fire dept hookup. They can pressurize the system
externally even in the event of power failure (or optionally, they
can cut the power from outside as we have a cutoff switch at the
meter).
The fire dept hookup is NOT to provide water for them to fight the
fire with. They bring that with them. The hookup is purely for them
to pressurize the sprinkler system. In fact, there's a valve that
prevents water flow in the other direction.
In addition, there's a flow sensor that detects if any head blows, and
calls the alarm company automatically.
> I thought a little bit about sprinklers for my house when it was
> built, but I couldn't find anyone doing residential systems in the
> area.
Our plumber put it in, but yeah, not all plumbers are certified for
it.
"Bob Gramza" <[email protected]> writes:
> That's one major setup you have for a fire system in your
> house. What kind of discount did you get on your homeowners policy ?
I don't recall. There's a risk of water damage which offsets some of
it, but there was a net discount.
Our house is on the edge of town, and 0.3 miles from the road. Nobody
would notice if it caught fire, until it was too late.
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> writes:
> Is that a single family, unattached home?
Yes.
then how come you screwed up "plateua"? ROTFLMAO!!!! Next time, spell
it "plateau" for more credibility, hillbilly.
You whine more about me than I could ever whine about all the
miscreants. Time to check the mirror, my ostentatious friend.
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> BAD -
> The next time I bother with the spellchecker for a drive-by aimed in your
> general direction will be the first time. And I'm not one to claim any
> literary prowess. I do, however, aspire to rise above your apparent
> clueless, effete, limp-wristed, tippy-toe sissyish whining.
>
> Ya know, I occasionally see bumperstickers advocating we "Stop the
> Violence!" I'm all for that, but before anyone can get to that lofty
> plateua, something's gotta be done about the whining.
>
> O'Deen
>
> p.s. I just this minute noticed the spellcheck button located smack dab in
> the middle of this newsreader's tool bar. I clicked it. No errors. There's
> a first time for everything. BAD - you were worth a click (hint: rhymes with
> flick)
>
>