DB

Dave Balderstone

13/11/2003 11:07 PM

OT: A Message From the Rural Midwest

Because of misunderstandings that frequently develop when Easterners
and Californians cross states such as Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri,
Illinois, Minnesota, North Dakota, and South Dakota; those states'
Tourism Councils have adopted a set of information guidelines. In an
effort to help outsiders understand the Midwest, the following list
will be handed to each driver entering the state:

0. That farm boy standing next to the feed bin did more work before
breakfast than you do all week at the gym.

1. It's called a "gravel road." No matter how slow you drive, you're
going to get dust on your Navigator. I have a four-wheel drive because
I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way.

2. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years old.
Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it.

3. Any references to "corn fed" when talking about our women will get
you whipped... by our women.

4. Go ahead and bring your $600 Orvis Fly Rod. Don't cry to us if a
flathead catfish breaks it off at the handle. We have a name for those
little trout you fish for.... bait.

5. Pull your pants up. You look like an idiot.

6. If that cell phone rings while a bunch of mallards are making their
final approach, we will shoot it. You might hope you don't have it up
to your ear at the time.

7. That's right. Whiskey is only two bucks. We can buy a fifth for what
you paid in the airport for one drink.

8. No, there's no "Vegetarian Special" on the menu. Order steak. Order
it rare. Or, you can order the Chef's Salad and pick off the two pounds
of ham and turkey.

9. You can bring Coke into my house but it better be brown, wet, and
served over ice.

10. So you have a sixty thousand dollar car you drive on weekends.
We're real impressed. We have quarter of a million dollar combines that
we use two weeks a year.

11. Let's get this straight. We have one stoplight in town. We stop
when it's red. We may even stop when it's yellow.

12. Our women hunt, fish, and drive trucks because they want to. So,
you're a feminist. Isn't that cute.

13. Yeah, we eat catfish. Carp and turtle too. You really want sushi
and caviar? It's available at the bait shop.

14. They are pigs. That's what they smell like. Get over it. Don't like
it? The highway you came in on will also take you home.

15. Interstates 80 & 90 go two ways. Interstates 29 & 35 go the other
two. Pick one and use it accordingly.

16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a
religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church.

17. So every person in every pickup waves... It's called being
friendly. Understand the concept?

18. Yeah, we have golf courses. Don't hit the ball into the water
hazard. It spooks the fish.

19. That Highway Patrol Officer that just pulled you over for driving
like an idiot...his name is "Sir"... no matter how old he is.

20. Now, enjoy your visit and go home.

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"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"


This topic has 81 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 10:08 PM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:13:02 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>
>"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Around where I grew up the dirt roads were oiled. Seemed to keep the
>> dust and the mud down a bit.
>>
>>
>> Regards, Tom
>
>When I was a young'un, Grandad worked for the township, before they had a
>powered grader. They used an *old* International crawler tractor & a towed
>grader/york rake to maintain the dirt roads. Took most of the Summer to get
>them all back in decent shape after the Winter snowplow & Spring freeze/thaw
>ravages.

Wow, they had OIL back when you were a kid, Nahmie?
<gd&wvvf>


We kids used to follow the mosquito fogger truck on LRAFB
back in the early 60's despite the fact that they told us
to all stay indoors while they fogged. We all lived, I think.


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Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 5:53 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Tom
Watson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know what yer Gauls pray to but the Gaels pray to whiskey and
> we do not like to see our religious heritage trifled with in such a
> tawdry way

Chesterton:

"His harp was carved and cunning,
His sword prompt and sharp,
And he was gay when he held the sword,
Sad when he held the harp.

For the great Gaels of Ireland
Are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry,
And all their songs are sad."

djb

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bB

[email protected] (BUB 209)

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 1:20 PM

>Easterners
>and Californians

You left out the North Side of Chicago.

JT

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 4:51 AM

Thu, Nov 13, 2003, 11:07pm (EST-1) [email protected]
(Dave=A0Balderstone) claims:
Because of misunderstandings <snip>

Huh. I grew up in Michigan. There are similarities tho.

2. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years old.
Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it.

Got over what? A cartoon movies about good eats?

5. Pull your pants up. You look like an idiot.

More like, pull your pant legs down, you look stupid.

14. They are pigs. That's what they smell like. Get over it. Don't like
it? The highway you came in on will also take you home.

We didn't live in such a fancy neighborhhood as that, we called
them hogs - or bacon.

16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a
religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church.

Pheasant season for us. Deer season came later. I'm not
religious, but it normally meant skipping school that day.

17. So every person in every pickup waves... It's called being
friendly. Understand the concept?

I drive a pickup, but don't count on me waving, unless I know you.
If we saw a farmer out on his tractor, someone we didn't know, it was
always fun to blow the horn and wave. He'd always wave back, and we
just knew he was gonna spend the rest of the day wondering who the Hell
waved at him.

18. Yeah, we have golf courses. Don't hit the ball into the water
hazard. It spooks the fish.

Cow pasture pool.


JOAT
Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
missing.

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Web Page Update 13 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
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d

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 11:10 PM

A Dog Named Stain wrote:
> Why would a flathead catfish be in a trout stream? Given the choice
> between fried catfish and smoked trout, I'll take the one that doesn't
> taste like a big bucket of mud.
> As for the price, just think of your Zebco as a direct drive Craftsman
> and the Orvis as a Powermatic or Delta cabinet saw...

I'd say that about draws the line. I'll take the catfish and a Garcia
reel, Browning rod. Now let's talk blood bait or dough balls.

Dave in Fairfax
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Lewis Hartswick

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 2:50 PM


>
> I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
> live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.
>
>
I think some of them don't.
We just had 4 school busses slide off the roads around here on Thur.
One of them twice. One on the west side and 3 over on the east side of
the mountain. All from about one inch of rain in a short time.
...lew...

JT

John Thompson

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 2:16 PM

oh good god! don't ever use chicago as a role model for any kind of
example in road and highway managment, except as a really bad example! I
hate having to drive through chicago. The way they've raped the
interstate with their tolls makes it pretty worthless as any form of
express route.

GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 11:35 PM

Whoa! You may be correct about weak link to cancer in
humans, but the link to thin eggs (not just eagles) is
strong, or let me rephrase it is so strong it is
indisuptable.

Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > Ahhhh. And spring time when the crop duster sprayed out town with DDT
> > to keep the mosquito population down.
> > mahalo,
> > jo4hn
>
> Actually DDT had a very low toxicity factor for humans. What did it
> in as a pesticide was a theoretical link to weakened eagle eggs. The
> supposed link to cancer was very weak and based upon studies that fed
> extremely high doses to lab mice.
>
> http://www.acsh.org/publications/reports/ddt2002.html
>
> http://www.junkscience.com/foxnews/fn120100.htm
>
> All of which would be of academic interest except for the number of
> people all over the world dying of malaria because of this ban.
>
> >
> > Unisaw A100 wrote:
> >
> > > Tom Watson wrote:
> > [snip]> Ahhh, the daze of my yout, seeing Russell Bliss out spraying
> > > the roads of Time Beach with waste oil.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

dD

[email protected] (David Hall)

in reply to "George E. Cawthon" on 16/11/2003 11:35 PM

20/11/2003 3:53 AM

>Whoa! You may be correct about weak link to cancer in
>humans, but the link to thin eggs (not just eagles) is
>strong, or let me rephrase it is so strong it is
>indisuptable.
>

So, clearly keeping those bird populations strong is worth a few thousand cases
of human death from malaria each year. Seems a middle ground that values humans
over eagles sould be available.

Dave Hall

>> All of which would be of academic interest except for the number of
>> people all over the world dying of malaria because of this ban.

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to "George E. Cawthon" on 16/11/2003 11:35 PM

20/11/2003 8:59 AM

DDT wiped out yellow fever in the MS Delta which almost wiped out
Memphis earlier in the century. Maybe our chemical companies need to
be persuaded to look for better alternatives.

On 20 Nov 2003 03:53:19 GMT, [email protected] (David Hall) wrote:

>>Whoa! You may be correct about weak link to cancer in
>>humans, but the link to thin eggs (not just eagles) is
>>strong, or let me rephrase it is so strong it is
>>indisuptable.
>>
>
>So, clearly keeping those bird populations strong is worth a few thousand cases
>of human death from malaria each year. Seems a middle ground that values humans
>over eagles sould be available.
>
>Dave Hall
>
>>> All of which would be of academic interest except for the number of
>>> people all over the world dying of malaria because of this ban.
>

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to "George E. Cawthon" on 16/11/2003 11:35 PM

20/11/2003 8:43 AM

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:59:35 -0600, Lawrence A. Ramsey
<[email protected]> wrote:

>DDT wiped out yellow fever in the MS Delta which almost wiped out
>Memphis earlier in the century. Maybe our chemical companies need to
>be persuaded to look for better alternatives.

As they have.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Gs

"George"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 7:58 AM

Deer opener is a day off at schools up here. Methodists do brunch, and the
Lutheran church does have a hunters' dinner.

Kid left his baiting bags at the side of the well house - never has learned
to put things away - and the last two times I went to let the dogs out I had
to wait until the deer left before releasing them. I suppose he could get
one at the front door if he wanted....


"Dave Balderstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:131120032307091279%[email protected]...
>
> 16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a
> religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church.
>

Gs

"George"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 6:33 AM

Then there are northern roads, where the earth below is frozen, and the top
thaws to a saturated quagmire. There's gravel somewhere in there, but it
provides no traction, having three or four inches of packing clay to
lubricate it.

In Russia they have a name for those times of year - bezdorozhie. Literally
"roadless."

Two and a half miles to pavement, and I don't have a 4WD.

"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
> > 1. It's called a "gravel road." No matter how slow you drive, you're
> > going to get dust on your Navigator. I have a four-wheel drive because
> > I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way.
>
> We have a gravel road smack in the middle of town. I've never been able
to
> figure that one out.
>
> Lots of gravel roads in the boonies too, and plenty of places to run out
of
> pavement not that far from the main roads.
>
> We have it *easy* here in Virginia. In the Carolinas, they have *dirt*
> roads. I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
> live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.
>

LL

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 7:16 PM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:13:02 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>When I was a young'un, Grandad worked for the township...

Which one? Ellicot, Busti, Gerry?


LRod

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Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Gs

"George"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

17/11/2003 2:49 PM

All those folks eat herring on the New Year for luck, too. Much tastier!

"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The older Norwegians in my neck of the midwest like lutefisk around
> Christmas. Many of us younger ones have had at most one bite. (I had one
> bite, most of my siblings have had zero.) Lutefisk is a dish made of
> codfish soaked in lye. IMO the person who invented it either pulled a
> fabuluous practical joke that no one else got, or was so frugal he'd never
> throw any food away no matter what had happened to it.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 6:00 PM

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:50:23 GMT, "Bob Schmall" <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:

>
>"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >Easterners
>> >and Californians
>>
>> You left out the North Side of Chicago.
>
>"What separates the cheeseheads from the dickheads?"
>"The Illinois state line."

A2: There's a difference?

<gd&r>


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[email protected] (Dick Durbin)

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

19/11/2003 11:47 AM

"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Deer opener is a day off at schools up here. Methodists do brunch, and the
> Lutheran church does have a hunters' dinner.
>
> Kid left his baiting bags at the side of the well house - never has learned
> to put things away - and the last two times I went to let the dogs out I had
> to wait until the deer left before releasing them. I suppose he could get
> one at the front door if he wanted....

Baiting bags???? Where I come from you get locked up for that sort of
thing. Of course that was before I moved to North Florida where
hunting deer with dogs is legal too.

Dick Durbin

jj

jo4hn

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 8:18 PM

Ahhhh. And spring time when the crop duster sprayed out town with DDT
to keep the mosquito population down.
mahalo,
jo4hn

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> Tom Watson wrote:
[snip]> Ahhh, the daze of my yout, seeing Russell Bliss out spraying
> the roads of Time Beach with waste oil.
>
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

20/11/2003 5:11 AM

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:59:36 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>Scott Cramer wrote:
>
>> If you can taste the difference between caviar on a cracker and ketchup on
>> a Kit-Kat while blindfolded, you have not had enough aquavit to be ready
>> for lutefisk. Return to step one.
>
>ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw in the newest www.edwardrhamilton.com mag today that they have a
copy of a lutefisk cookbook with 200 recipes of traditional Jewish
cooking/preparation. I upset a Jewish lady friend one time when I
commented that her lutefisk tasted like a Jewish version of Spam.


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Traves W. Coppock

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 5:16 AM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:17:36 GMT, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:


snip

>
>THE IRISH INVENTED WHISKEY AND POETRY AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS, "NAY",
>BE DAMNED !
>
>

snip


Sure,,,but the Scotts perfected it fella...

sort of like the polish inventing the toilet, and three years later
the germans puttin a hole in the bottom, , ,

*EG*

Traves

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 8:45 PM

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:07:09 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<[email protected]> wrote:

>16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a
>religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church.

Being from Pennsyltucky, I s'pose I qualify as an Easterner.

(although Jimmy Carville says that Pennsyltucky is Pittsburgh in the
West, Philadelphia in the East, and Alabama in between - which is a
hell of a thing for a Looseyann boy to say about 'Bama)

Anyways, story is told, by very unreliable sources, about the day some
New Yak City boys tried to rob a bank in their home town, screwed it
up, and headed West.

They dropped down out of New York State into Potter County,
Pennsyltucky and decided to rob a roadhouse bar to get some grub and
gas money.

Well, it was the evening of the Opening Day of Deer Season and, being
Potter County, the most intensely hunted county in the state, the bar
was full of hunters.

The three lads walked into the bar and showed their iron.

When the State Police led the young men away, one of the shaken,
wannabe robbers was heard to say:


"I've never seen so many people pointing guns at me."


"This is worse than The Bronx."












Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 12:22 AM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:53:29 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Tom
>Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't know what yer Gauls pray to but the Gaels pray to whiskey and
>> we do not like to see our religious heritage trifled with in such a
>> tawdry way
>
>Chesterton:
>
>"His harp was carved and cunning,
>His sword prompt and sharp,
>And he was gay when he held the sword,
>Sad when he held the harp.
>
>For the great Gaels of Ireland
>Are the men that God made mad,
>For all their wars are merry,
>And all their songs are sad."
>
>djb



"And the man was come like a shadow,
From the shadow of Druid trees,
Where Usk, with mighty murmurings,
Past Caerleon of the fallen kings,
Goes out to ghostly seas.

Last of a race in ruin--
He spoke the speech of the Gaels;
His kin were in holy Ireland,
Or up in the crags of Wales.

But his soul stood with his mother's folk,
That were of the rain-wrapped isle,
Where Patrick and Brandan westerly
Looked out at last on a landless sea
And the sun's last smile. "


see supra


On a happier albeit less classical note:

"I am a young fellow that's fond of my fun,
And Ferlin in Derry is where I've begun.
All over the country, I've spent all my cash.
With Kitty and Ginny and Mary McNash.
My father disowned me for being such a rake.
And for spending my time in such frolicksome ways.
The girls, they are sweet, but I'll have you all know
That my first love in life is the pure whiskey, oh!
Riddley-i-di, riddley-i-di-di, riddley-i-di-day.

If I chance for to go to the town of Kildare
All the girls all around me they flock on the square
Some bring me a bottle and some bring me cake.
And they do it behind their old pure parents' back.
There's one from McCorville and one from Carlisle.
And another one from Derry my heart has beguiled.
But I'd trade every one for a drop of the pure,
For my first love is whiskey. The heart it can cure.
Riddley-i-di, riddley-i-di-di, riddley-i-di-day.

To worry for riches, I'm never inclined.
For the greatest of misers must leave them behind.
With a glass in my hand and a girl on my knee
There's all a man needs for his pleasure, you see.
For I knew a man who had plenty of gold,
And I knew another who had twenty times more.
But they're both on their backs among nettles and stone.
So, my first love is whiskey and whiskey alone.
Riddley-i-di, riddley-i-di-di, riddley-i-di-day.

And now for the future, I mean to be wise.
And I'll look for the women that treated me kind.
I'll marry them all on the next Market Day,
If the clergy agree to the things that I say.
And when I am dead and my soul is at rest,
These women will come for to cry at my wake.
And they'll cover me over with whiskey so pure,
And I'll dance on the lid of my coffin and cheer.
Riddley-i-di, riddley-i-di-di, riddley-i-di-day."

The Irish Rovers, The Unicorn.




Slan agus saoghal agat, bean ar do mhein agat, talamh gan cios agat
agus bas in Eirinn. Slan agus beannachtai libh



Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

20/11/2003 5:06 PM

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:08:13 GMT, "Bob Schmall" <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:

>"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message

>> cooking/preparation. I upset a Jewish lady friend one time when I
>> commented that her lutefisk tasted like a Jewish version of Spam.
>
>Jaques, you silver-tongued devil: how could Spam be kosher?
>(that is NOT a rhetorical question)

She didn't like my joke and that subtle portion of it passed
entirely over her head.

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Silvan

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

18/11/2003 8:59 PM

Scott Cramer wrote:

> If you can taste the difference between caviar on a cracker and ketchup on
> a Kit-Kat while blindfolded, you have not had enough aquavit to be ready
> for lutefisk. Return to step one.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

17/11/2003 12:20 AM

Norman D. Crow wrote:

> IIRC, the aforementioned crawler was one o' them cantankerous
> ol' dual fuel Internationals that you started on gas, then switched
> to diesel.

Two engines I suppose, like the heavier John Deere two cylinder tractors
like the "R" and "730"?

-- Mark

FK

"Frank Ketchum"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 1:47 PM


"Dave Balderstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:131120032307091279%[email protected]...
>
> 16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a
> religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church.
>

Wouldn't miss it for the world! It's tomorrow, (Nov 15th) in Michigan.
Won't be in the shop much this weekend!

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 5:27 AM

Dave Balderstone wrote:

> 2. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years old.
> Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it.

Venison "veal" tastes great with 'taters & peas anyway. Butchering your own
cows, pigs and wild game gets you over all this teary eyed stuff.

> 16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a
> religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church.

Yeah!!

-- Mark

SC

Scott Cramer

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

17/11/2003 7:38 PM

On 17 Nov 2003, Mark Jerde spake unto rec.woodworking:

> http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~atman/ic/lutefisk.html

From the site, above:

*******

1. Take a shot aquavit.
2. Take two. (They're small.)
3. Put a bit of caviar on a bit of lettuce.
4. Put the lettuce on a cracker.
5. Squeeze some lemon juice on the caviar.
6. Pour some ketchup on the Kit-Kat bar.
7. Tie the dishtowel around your eyes.


If you can taste the difference between caviar on a cracker and ketchup on
a Kit-Kat while blindfolded, you have not had enough aquavit to be ready
for lutefisk. Return to step one.

*******

Brilliant stuff!

BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 9:12 PM


"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:50:23 GMT, "Bob Schmall" <[email protected]>
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >
> >"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> >Easterners
> >> >and Californians
> >>
> >> You left out the North Side of Chicago.
> >
> >"What separates the cheeseheads from the dickheads?"
> >"The Illinois state line."
>
> A2: There's a difference?
>
> <gd&r>

The subtle difference wouldn't be noticeable to a left coaster, but then,
what would be?

<gd&r, too>


MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 5:31 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> . . . NOW AT THE SAN DIEGO MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT:
>
... reluctant snip -- check the archives, it's worth it!
>

Dang, where's the Windex?

BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 6:20 PM


"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:51:38 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Ahhh, the daze of my yout, seeing Russell Bliss out spraying
> >the roads of Time Beach with waste oil.
>
> When I was a little tyke I would ride my bike past the Wyeth
> Laboratories facility. If the wind was right I'd get a misty coating
> of this stuff that made my face feel like peach fuzz.
>
> That'll prolly show up some day on an xray.
>
> When I got a little older I worked in a paper mill for a bit. The
> chemicals that were used in the pulp beater used to make my skin break
> out in a rash.
>
> That might be one of the reasons my skin is so bumpy in spots.
>
> Then, when I first started doing carpentry, I would cut asbestos
> backer boards for fireplaces: no mask.
>
> You can bet that's waiting for me down the road a piece.
>
> I once sprayed some poly in my one car garge/shop, while the kerosene
> heater was running. An open flame in a room where poly is being
> sprayed does funny things to the poly vapor.
>
> That was the first time I got bronchitis. Now I get it every couple
> three years.
>
> I got more careful over the years and use a good organic vapor
> repirator now but I've sprayed a lot of nitro lacquer and I've noticed
> a bit of a tremor in the last few years. They say nitro is a little
> rough on the CNS. I believe them
>
> So, ya see, that goddamned road oil don't scare me even a little bit.
>
> It can stand in line with all the rest.
>
>
> (pour me some more of that third red eye, barkeep, and pass me them
> cigarettes - I don't guess it really matters much no more - sigh...)

One of Larryjaques' T-shirts says it all: "I drive way too fast to worry
about cholesterol."

Bob

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Bob Schmall" on 15/11/2003 6:20 PM

19/11/2003 3:43 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> > >Beautiful country, nice people, confusing as hell language
> > >and use of their alphabet.
> >
> > Interesting. That's more than I knew before. I can't say something
> > like that every day, so this is good.
>
> Try getting off the train here:
> http://www.clwbmalucachu.co.uk/images/llanfair.jpg
>

Probably never happen, by the time the conductor is done announcing
it, the train has left the station again. :-)

Rw

Rico

in reply to "Bob Schmall" on 15/11/2003 6:20 PM

18/11/2003 8:16 PM

Mark & Juanita wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> >
> > > >Beautiful country, nice people, confusing as hell language
> > > >and use of their alphabet.
> > >
> > > Interesting. That's more than I knew before. I can't say something
> > > like that every day, so this is good.
> >
> > Try getting off the train here:
> > http://www.clwbmalucachu.co.uk/images/llanfair.jpg
> >
>
> Probably never happen, by the time the conductor is done announcing
> it, the train has left the station again. :-)
>

I went from Tan y Bwlch to Blaenau Ffestiniog and return on
the Rheilffordd Ffestiniog Railway on a beautifully restored
narrow gauge with Victorian era cars. Nice simple names by
comparison. The language doesn't sound at all like it looks.
It's rather pleasant sounding and things aren't pronounced
at all like we read them.

Dick


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"Caractacus Potts"

in reply to "Bob Schmall" on 15/11/2003 6:20 PM

18/11/2003 4:40 PM


> >Beautiful country, nice people, confusing as hell language
> >and use of their alphabet.
>
> Interesting. That's more than I knew before. I can't say something
> like that every day, so this is good.

Try getting off the train here:
http://www.clwbmalucachu.co.uk/images/llanfair.jpg

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to "Bob Schmall" on 15/11/2003 6:20 PM

18/11/2003 8:12 AM

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:57:19 -0800, Rico <[email protected]> wrote:

>Tim Douglass wrote:
>> >Named after Usk Wales by a Welsh imigrant.
>>
>> OK. Any idea about the name Usk in Wales? What it means or anything?
>>
>> Tim Douglass
>>
>>
>>
>
>I can't make sense out of anything in Welsh. But a Google
>search indicates in was derived from the old English word
>isca meaning "water".
>
>Just to make things interesting it's actually spelled Wysg
>in Welsh. But still pronounced about the same. If you want
>a brain teaser, try driving through Wales and remembering
>the names you saw in the road sign you just passed.
>
>Beautiful country, nice people, confusing as hell language
>and use of their alphabet.

Interesting. That's more than I knew before. I can't say something
like that every day, so this is good.

Thanks,
Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 10:17 PM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:02:39 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:

>"Corn? Now we can make whisky!"


That's "Whiskey", gotdamnit !

"Whiskey is a shortened form of usquebaugh, which English borrowed
from Irish Gaelic uisce beatha and Scottish Gaelic uisge beatha. This
compound descends from Old Irish uisce, “water,” and bethad, “of
life,” and meaning literally “water of life.” (It thus meant the same
thing as the name of another drink, aquavit, which comes from Latin
aqua vtae, “water of life.”) "

http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/W0123200.html

Now, I'd not be the one to cut out my fellow Celts but;

THE IRISH INVENTED WHISKEY AND POETRY AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS, "NAY",
BE DAMNED !

I don't know what yer Gauls pray to but the Gaels pray to whiskey and
we do not like to see our religious heritage trifled with in such a
tawdry way.

I've a friend who call Courvoisier, "French Whiskey", but I suspect
him of being both drunk and Italian.

Oy !


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 11:08 PM

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:31:08 -0500, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> scribbled

>On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:03:26 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
>wrote:
<snip>
>If by BS you mean 'bella stronzo', This isn't a BAD thread. You'll
>find him up and to the left.

That's ackshally 'brutto stronzo'. It means the baby troll as seen in
troll birth pictures (tmGM).

<snip>
>>), is given to flights of verse, and
>>hates (i.e. is jealous of) plumbers. I suppose you hate grappa too?
>
>Love grappa. Hate plumbers. Hate electricians, too. Like painters -
>cause they make my crappy trim work look nice.

At least you have one redeeming quality (the grappa bit).

>>>I've a friend who call Courvoisier, "French Whiskey", but I suspect
>>>him of being both drunk and Italian.
>>
>>And your point is?
>
>Proven.

<g> Point for Tom.

<snip>

>If you ever decide to see what life is like outside of the third
>world, look me up.

And if you ever get tired of the total absurdity of life on the
fringes of a major urban area, come and visit.

Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address

"Man is a tool-using animal. Weak in himself and of small stature,
he stands on a basis of some half-square foot, has to straddle out
his legs lest the very winds supplant him. Nevertheless, he can
use tools, can devise tools: with these the granite mountain melts
into light dust before him: seas are his smooth highway, winds and
fire his unwearying steeds. Nowhere do you find him without tools.
Without tools he is nothing: with tools he is all."
Thomas Carlyle

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 12:13 PM


"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Around where I grew up the dirt roads were oiled. Seemed to keep the
> dust and the mud down a bit.
>
>
> Regards, Tom

When I was a young'un, Grandad worked for the township, before they had a
powered grader. They used an *old* International crawler tractor & a towed
grader/york rake to maintain the dirt roads. Took most of the Summer to get
them all back in decent shape after the Winter snowplow & Spring freeze/thaw
ravages.
Nahmie

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 6:24 PM


"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:13:02 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >When I was a young'un, Grandad worked for the township...
>
> Which one? Ellicot, Busti, Gerry?

Carroll

Nahmie

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 6:28 PM


"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wow, they had OIL back when you were a kid, Nahmie?
> <gd&wvvf>

"wvvf" ?????????


ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 1:55 PM


"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:28:34 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
> <[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >
> >"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Wow, they had OIL back when you were a kid, Nahmie?
> >> <gd&wvvf>
> >
> >"wvvf" ?????????
>
> Walking very, very fast vs. running. I blew out the
> gutters and cleaned off the roof today, so my knees
> are sore from the stooping and climbing.
>
> What, you're not even going to comment on the age thing?

Yes, Virginia, er . . . Larry, there is a Santa, and yes, we had oil then.
IIRC, the aforementioned crawler was one o' them cantankerous ol' dual fuel
Internationals that you started on gas, then switched to diesel.

Also, thanks to Charlie Self, he answered the "age" comment.
Nahmie

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 9:30 PM


"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Norman D. Crow wrote:
>
> > IIRC, the aforementioned crawler was one o' them cantankerous
> > ol' dual fuel Internationals that you started on gas, then switched
> > to diesel.
>
> Two engines I suppose, like the heavier John Deere two cylinder tractors
> like the "R" and "730"?

You're thinking "pony" engines, which JD, Cat, and many others used. They
were just a gasoline engine used as a starter motor. This thing was used by
IH for many years in both construction and farm equipment. Had a third valve
in each cylinder that when opened reduced compression by opening up
additional chamber with a spark plug in it, and same mechanism that opened
the valve abled up the ignition and the carburetor. You started it on
gasoline, let it warm up, then opened diesel throttle & threw the valve
lever over to switch it to diesel compression. When done operating, you shut
the diesel off & let it die, then restart on gas later.

McCormick & JD, probably others, also had what they called "distillate"
engines on early farm tractors. They used carburetion & ignition, but had a
little gas tank & big kerosene tank. Had to start'em on gas & warm up before
shutting off gasoline & turning on kerosene, or they wouldn't run for beans.
Shut down, kill kero, run on gas until all kero is out of carb, or you'll
have a h***uva time starting it the next day.
Nahmie

PS As long as we're OT, I'm ggonna post an OT on ABPW to go along with this,
a "hybrid" John Deere "R"

AD

"A Dog Named Stain"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 4:50 PM


> 4. Go ahead and bring your $600 Orvis Fly Rod. Don't cry to us if a
> flathead catfish breaks it off at the handle. We have a name for those
> little trout you fish for.... bait.


Why would a flathead catfish be in a trout stream? Given the choice
between fried catfish and smoked trout, I'll take the one that doesn't
taste like a big bucket of mud.

As for the price, just think of your Zebco as a direct drive Craftsman
and the Orvis as a Powermatic or Delta cabinet saw...

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 6:30 AM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:28:34 -0500, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>
>"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Wow, they had OIL back when you were a kid, Nahmie?
>> <gd&wvvf>
>
>"wvvf" ?????????

Walking very, very fast vs. running. I blew out the
gutters and cleaned off the roof today, so my knees
are sore from the stooping and climbing.

What, you're not even going to comment on the age thing?

-----------------------------------------------
I'll apologize for offending someone...right
after they apologize for being easily offended.
-----------------------------------------------
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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Larry Jaques on 16/11/2003 6:30 AM

16/11/2003 9:54 AM

Larry Jaques writes:

>Walking very, very fast vs. running. I blew out the
>gutters and cleaned off the roof today, so my knees
>are sore from the stooping and climbing.
>
>What, you're not even going to comment on the age thing?
>

What age thing? You're still a kid.

Charlie Self
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use
our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson















MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 3:01 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Ahhhh. And spring time when the crop duster sprayed out town with DDT
> to keep the mosquito population down.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

Actually DDT had a very low toxicity factor for humans. What did it
in as a pesticide was a theoretical link to weakened eagle eggs. The
supposed link to cancer was very weak and based upon studies that fed
extremely high doses to lab mice.

http://www.acsh.org/publications/reports/ddt2002.html

http://www.junkscience.com/foxnews/fn120100.htm


All of which would be of academic interest except for the number of
people all over the world dying of malaria because of this ban.

>
> Unisaw A100 wrote:
>
> > Tom Watson wrote:
> [snip]> Ahhh, the daze of my yout, seeing Russell Bliss out spraying
> > the roads of Time Beach with waste oil.
> >
> >
>
>

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 6:00 PM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:51:38 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Ahhh, the daze of my yout, seeing Russell Bliss out spraying
>the roads of Time Beach with waste oil.

When I was a little tyke I would ride my bike past the Wyeth
Laboratories facility. If the wind was right I'd get a misty coating
of this stuff that made my face feel like peach fuzz.

That'll prolly show up some day on an xray.

When I got a little older I worked in a paper mill for a bit. The
chemicals that were used in the pulp beater used to make my skin break
out in a rash.

That might be one of the reasons my skin is so bumpy in spots.

Then, when I first started doing carpentry, I would cut asbestos
backer boards for fireplaces: no mask.

You can bet that's waiting for me down the road a piece.

I once sprayed some poly in my one car garge/shop, while the kerosene
heater was running. An open flame in a room where poly is being
sprayed does funny things to the poly vapor.

That was the first time I got bronchitis. Now I get it every couple
three years.

I got more careful over the years and use a good organic vapor
repirator now but I've sprayed a lot of nitro lacquer and I've noticed
a bit of a tremor in the last few years. They say nitro is a little
rough on the CNS. I believe them

So, ya see, that goddamned road oil don't scare me even a little bit.

It can stand in line with all the rest.


(pour me some more of that third red eye, barkeep, and pass me them
cigarettes - I don't guess it really matters much no more - sigh...)



Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Tom Watson on 15/11/2003 6:00 PM

15/11/2003 7:28 PM

Tom Watson writes:

>
>Then, when I first started doing carpentry, I would cut asbestos
>backer boards for fireplaces: no mask.

Mask, what mask? I swept all kinds of dusts for many months into burlap bags,
then loaded the dust leaking bags into semis for transport to the dump. Later
on, I cut the asbestos boards for fireplace backers, and for framing out wood
stove chimney installations...usually with a cigaret in my mouth.

They do tell us pretty close to up front that we ain't gonna get out of this
alive. I'm betting on it.

>(pour me some more of that third red eye, barkeep, and pass me them
>cigarettes - I don't guess it really matters much no more - sigh...)

Not too long ago, I walked into a buddy's cabinet shop to find the help
spraying contact cement on a very large countertop and the underside of the
laminate. I have to say, from the way it hit me coming in, within seconds, I
don't really know how those two could even hit the floor with the spray! I
opened the overhead door on my way out, but I was afraid to kick on a fan.

Charlie Self
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use
our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson















DW

"Doug Winterburn"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 11:42 PM

. . . NOW AT THE SAN DIEGO MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT:

Dear Ma and Pa:

I am well. Hope you are. Tell Brother Walt and Brother Elmer the Marine
Corps beats working for old man Minch by a mile. Tell them to join up quick
before maybe all of the places are filled. I was restless at first because
you got to stay in bed till nearly 6 a.m., but am getting so I like to
sleep late.

Tell Walt and Elmer all you do before breakfast is smooth your cot and
shine some things. No hogs to slop, feed to pitch, mash to mix, wood to
split, fire to lay. Practically nothing. Men got to shave but it is not so
bad, there's warm water.

Breakfast is strong on trimmings like fruit juice, cereal, eggs, bacon,
etc., but kind of weak on chops, potatoes, ham, steak, fried eggplant, pie
and other regular food. But tell Walt and Elmer you can always sit by the
two city boys that live on coffee. Their food plus yours holds you till
noon when you get fed again. It's no wonder these city boys can't walk
much.

We go on "route" marches, which the Platoon Sergeant says are long walks
to harden us. If he thinks so, it is not my place to tell him different. A
"route march" is about as far as to our mailbox at home. Then the cityguys
get sore feet and we all ride back in trucks. The country is nice, but
awful flat.

The sergeant is like a schoolteacher. He nags some. The captain is like
the school board. Majors and colonels just ride around and frown. They
don't bother you none.

This next will kill Walt and Elmer with laughing.

I keep getting medals for shooting. I don't know why. The bulls-eye is
near as big as a chipmunk head and don't move. And it ain't shooting at
you, like the Higgett boys at home. All you got to do is lie there all
comfortable and hit it. You don't even load your own cartridges. They come
in boxes.

Then we have what they call hand-to-hand combat training. You get to
wrestle with them city boys. I have to be real careful though, they break
real easy. It ain't like fighting with that ole bull at home. I'm about
the best they got in this except for that Tug Jordan from over in Silver
Lake He joined up the same time as me. But I'm only 5'6" and 130 pounds
and he's 6'8" and weighs near 300 pounds dry.

Be sure to tell Walt and Elmer to hurry and join before other fellers get
onto this setup and come stampeding in.

Your loving daughter,
Gail

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 10:02 PM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:20:55 GMT, "Bob Schmall" <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:

>> (pour me some more of that third red eye, barkeep, and pass me them
>> cigarettes - I don't guess it really matters much no more - sigh...)

"Corn? Now we can make whisky!"


>One of Larryjaques' T-shirts says it all: "I drive way too fast to worry
>about cholesterol."

Newp. That's a sig file, to wit...


---------------------------------------------------
I drive way too fast to worry about my cholesterol.
---------------------------------------------------
http://www.diversify.com Refreshing Graphic Design

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 4:20 PM

In article <131120032307091279%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Because of misunderstandings that frequently develop when Easterners
> and Californians cross states such as Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri,
> Illinois, Minnesota, North Dakota, and South Dakota; those states'
> Tourism Councils have adopted a set of information guidelines. In an
> effort to help outsiders understand the Midwest, the following list
> will be handed to each driver entering the state:
>
... snip of good stuff

Loved it! :-)

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 3:57 PM

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:02:43 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In the Carolinas, they have *dirt*
>roads. I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
>live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.

Around where I grew up the dirt roads were oiled. Seemed to keep the
dust and the mud down a bit.


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Tom Watson on 15/11/2003 3:57 PM

15/11/2003 9:03 PM

On 15 Nov 2003 17:15:42 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
responds:

>Tom Watson writes:
>>Around where I grew up the dirt roads were oiled. Seemed to keep the
>>dust and the mud down a bit.
>
>Yes. Did that to ours, too. It worked, but I understand that now the EPA will
>fine or jug anyone who oils his road.

Now they use calcium chloride here to keep the dust down (used as road
salt in parts of the world where it stays warm enough to melt ice with
salt). Makes the roads as slick as snot whenever it rains.

Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address

"Man is a tool-using animal. Weak in himself and of small stature,
he stands on a basis of some half-square foot, has to straddle out
his legs lest the very winds supplant him. Nevertheless, he can
use tools, can devise tools: with these the granite mountain melts
into light dust before him: seas are his smooth highway, winds and
fire his unwearying steeds. Nowhere do you find him without tools.
Without tools he is nothing: with tools he is all."
Thomas Carlyle

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Tom Watson on 15/11/2003 3:57 PM

15/11/2003 5:15 PM

Tom Watson writes:

>In the Carolinas, they have *dirt*
>>roads. I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
>>live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.
>
>Around where I grew up the dirt roads were oiled. Seemed to keep the
>dust and the mud down a bit.

Yes. Did that to ours, too. It worked, but I understand that now the EPA will
fine or jug anyone who oils his road.

Charlie Self
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use
our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson















Gs

"George"

in reply to Tom Watson on 15/11/2003 3:57 PM

16/11/2003 8:47 AM

They do _whole roads_ with calcium chloride? You must be rich. The
township gives us two bags to suppress dust in front of our houses, and lets
the rest roll.

Time was they would get trucks of papermaking waste liquor, but that was
only applied in front of dwellings as dust control, too. Smelled neat,
though.

"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now they use calcium chloride here to keep the dust down (used as road
> salt in parts of the world where it stays warm enough to melt ice with
> salt). Makes the roads as slick as snot whenever it rains.
>

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Tom Watson on 15/11/2003 3:57 PM

16/11/2003 10:59 PM

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:47:27 -0500, "George"
<[email protected]> scribbled:

>They do _whole roads_ with calcium chloride? You must be rich. The
>township gives us two bags to suppress dust in front of our houses, and lets
>the rest roll.

The Atlin road for one, from Jake's Corner (Hey, C-less, I never
realized you had a spot in the Yukon named after you!) to Atlin,
mostly unpaved for about 100 kilometres.

Luigi
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"Man is a tool-using animal. Weak in himself and of small stature,
he stands on a basis of some half-square foot, has to straddle out
his legs lest the very winds supplant him. Nevertheless, he can
use tools, can devise tools: with these the granite mountain melts
into light dust before him: seas are his smooth highway, winds and
fire his unwearying steeds. Nowhere do you find him without tools.
Without tools he is nothing: with tools he is all."
Thomas Carlyle

BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

20/11/2003 2:08 PM


"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:59:36 -0500, Silvan
> <[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> >Scott Cramer wrote:
> >
> >> If you can taste the difference between caviar on a cracker and ketchup
on
> >> a Kit-Kat while blindfolded, you have not had enough aquavit to be
ready
> >> for lutefisk. Return to step one.
> >
> >ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I saw in the newest www.edwardrhamilton.com mag today that they have a
> copy of a lutefisk cookbook with 200 recipes of traditional Jewish
> cooking/preparation. I upset a Jewish lady friend one time when I
> commented that her lutefisk tasted like a Jewish version of Spam.

Jaques, you silver-tongued devil: how could Spam be kosher?
(that is NOT a rhetorical question)

Bob

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 9:03 PM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:17:36 GMT, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> scribbled:

>On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:02:39 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Corn? Now we can make whisky!"
>
>That's "Whiskey", gotdamnit !

Only in Ireland and in the poor misbegotten ex-colony you have the
misfortune to live in.

>Now, I'd not be the one to cut out my fellow Celts but;
>
>THE IRISH INVENTED WHISKEY AND POETRY AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS, "NAY",
>BE DAMNED !

Well, I'll be damned! Nay! So there! I have never heard such
unmitigated BS.

Tom, you uncannily remind me of my friend Doug, who is also a
cabinetmaker, pretends to be Irish, is into
peat-moss-and-caramel-flavoured rubbing alcohol (too much water in it
to even qualify as shellac thinner), is given to flights of verse, and
hates (i.e. is jealous of) plumbers. I suppose you hate grappa too?

>I don't know what yer Gauls pray to but the Gaels pray to whiskey and
>we do not like to see our religious heritage trifled with in such a
>tawdry way.
>
>I've a friend who call Courvoisier, "French Whiskey", but I suspect
>him of being both drunk and Italian.

And your point is?

;-) <-------Just to make sure.

Luigi
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in reply address for real email address

"Man is a tool-using animal. Weak in himself and of small stature,
he stands on a basis of some half-square foot, has to straddle out
his legs lest the very winds supplant him. Nevertheless, he can
use tools, can devise tools: with these the granite mountain melts
into light dust before him: seas are his smooth highway, winds and
fire his unwearying steeds. Nowhere do you find him without tools.
Without tools he is nothing: with tools he is all."
Thomas Carlyle

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 6:16 AM

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:42:45 GMT, "Doug Winterburn"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

> . . . NOW AT THE SAN DIEGO MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT:
>
>Dear Ma and Pa:
>
>I am well. Hope you are. Tell Brother Walt and Brother Elmer the Marine
-snip of great tales-
>Your loving daughter,
>Gail

She sounds familiar. Warn't she Ellie May's sister?


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Silvan

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 8:02 PM

Dave Balderstone wrote:

> 1. It's called a "gravel road." No matter how slow you drive, you're
> going to get dust on your Navigator. I have a four-wheel drive because
> I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way.

We have a gravel road smack in the middle of town. I've never been able to
figure that one out.

Lots of gravel roads in the boonies too, and plenty of places to run out of
pavement not that far from the main roads.

We have it *easy* here in Virginia. In the Carolinas, they have *dirt*
roads. I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.

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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Silvan on 14/11/2003 8:02 PM

15/11/2003 9:24 AM

Silvan writes:

>We have a gravel road smack in the middle of town. I've never been able to
>figure that one out.
>
>Lots of gravel roads in the boonies too, and plenty of places to run out of
>pavement not that far from the main roads.
>
>We have it *easy* here in Virginia. In the Carolinas, they have *dirt*
>roads. I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
>live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.

Ah, well, it's a secret...lot like driving on wet glass, or ice, but deeper.

As a kid, I lived on dirt road in NY, maybe 55 miles north of the city.
Probably embarrass the good, if snooty, people of Westchester County today, but
it was in northern Westchester, extended for miles, with many side roads, with
houses every 1/4 or 1/2 mile or so. The road was usually a washboard in dry
weather (and a great place to learn to handle slides in curves as the traffic
was truly neglible back then). In '55, we got a true gully-washer. In fact,
turned 70% of the road into a gully, but that one did the same throught the
Northeast. At the time, I had the only car that would get out of the road, a
little Crosley convertible about 3/4 the width of a VW bug. There was enough
road, albeit wet, for me to run a lot of errands.

Charlie Self
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use
our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson















Rw

Rico

in reply to Silvan on 14/11/2003 8:02 PM

15/11/2003 8:15 PM

Tim Douglass wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:22:09 GMT, Tom Watson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Where Usk, with mighty murmurings,
>
> Who, and/or what, is this Usk? I used to live outside of the town of
> Usk in Eastern Washington state and I've always wondered about the
> name.
>
> Tim Douglass

Named after Usk Wales by a Welsh imigrant.

Dick


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"Swingman"

in reply to Silvan on 14/11/2003 8:02 PM

15/11/2003 2:40 PM

The roads were so bad in S Louisiana where I grew up that the rural Cajuns
often loaded a horse in the back of the pickup to pull them out when they
got stuck, or to ride home when it couldn't.

My first introduction to "redundancy" systems.

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"Charlie Self" wrote in message

> As a kid, I lived on dirt road in NY, maybe 55 miles north of the city.
> Probably embarrass the good, if snooty, people of Westchester County
today, but
> it was in northern Westchester, extended for miles, with many side roads,
with
> houses every 1/4 or 1/2 mile or so. The road was usually a washboard in
dry
> weather (and a great place to learn to handle slides in curves as the
traffic
> was truly neglible back then). In '55, we got a true gully-washer. In
fact,
> turned 70% of the road into a gully, but that one did the same throught
the
> Northeast. At the time, I had the only car that would get out of the road,
a
> little Crosley convertible about 3/4 the width of a VW bug. There was
enough
> road, albeit wet, for me to run a lot of errands.

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to Silvan on 14/11/2003 8:02 PM

15/11/2003 7:17 PM

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:22:09 GMT, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Where Usk, with mighty murmurings,

Who, and/or what, is this Usk? I used to live outside of the town of
Usk in Eastern Washington state and I've always wondered about the
name.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

a

in reply to Silvan on 14/11/2003 8:02 PM

17/11/2003 12:01 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Tim Douglass <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:22:09 GMT, Tom Watson
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Where Usk, with mighty murmurings,
>
>Who, and/or what, is this Usk? I used to live outside of the town of
>Usk in Eastern Washington state and I've always wondered about the
>name.
>

"Usk and ye shall receive"

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Silvan on 14/11/2003 8:02 PM

17/11/2003 7:49 AM

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:08:18 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:

>That's ackshally 'brutto stronzo'. It means the baby troll as seen in
>troll birth pictures (tmGM).

Yeah, I agree dat "brutto" is more accurate. I were trying to be
ironic but accurate is more better.

>At least you have one redeeming quality (the grappa bit).

And I still know a few of the old guys who make the stuff in drums.
If I time it just right, I get to preview the vino when it's aquat,
and, if I'm a good boy, I wind up with a gallon or three of the
finished stuff around Christmas time.

>And if you ever get tired of the total absurdity of life on the
>fringes of a major urban area, come and visit.

I don't mind the density, it's the crowds I can't stand.

Have a good Monday, Luigi.


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to Silvan on 14/11/2003 8:02 PM

17/11/2003 9:57 AM

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:01:23 GMT, [email protected] ()
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>Tim Douglass <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:22:09 GMT, Tom Watson
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Where Usk, with mighty murmurings,
>>
>>Who, and/or what, is this Usk? I used to live outside of the town of
>>Usk in Eastern Washington state and I've always wondered about the
>>name.
>>
>
>"Usk and ye shall receive"

Ouch!!

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 9:10 PM

Tom Watson wrote:

> Being from Pennsyltucky, I s'pose I qualify as an Easterner.
>
> (although Jimmy Carville says that Pennsyltucky is Pittsburgh in the
> West, Philadelphia in the East, and Alabama in between - which is a
> hell of a thing for a Looseyann boy to say about 'Bama)

Kinda sums it up. You have some beautiful country and some really nice
people up there. Just none of it within range of SEPTA. :)

> "I've never seen so many people pointing guns at me."
> "This is worse than The Bronx."

I can imagine. I ate dinner with some kindly folks in the sticks west of
Altoona once. They regaled me with tales of how they ran the last game
warden out of town, and asked (in the middle of June or so) if I wanted to
go deer hunting.

We here in the South don't have a monopoly on rednecks by a long shot. :)

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Trent©

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 10:34 AM

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:07:09 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Because of misunderstandings that frequently develop when Easterners
>and Californians cross states such as Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri,
>Illinois, Minnesota, North Dakota, and South Dakota; those states'
>Tourism Councils have adopted a set of information guidelines. In an
>effort to help outsiders understand the Midwest, the following list
>will be handed to each driver entering the state:

<all the good stuff snipped>

Thanks, Dave...made me chuckle.

Its my understanding that the border states are gonna install toll
gates...and that they'll need a permit to travel across the states.

They're gonna have a conclave in Chicago...and use their system as a
model. I'm not sure, but I think the Chicago road construction crews
are gonna contribute their ideas, also.

Thanks again.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 8:39 AM

The Carolina's have sand; MS has mud (clay) and when it rains, NOTHING
moves on some of their roads.


On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:02:43 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
>> 1. It's called a "gravel road." No matter how slow you drive, you're
>> going to get dust on your Navigator. I have a four-wheel drive because
>> I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way.
>
>We have a gravel road smack in the middle of town. I've never been able to
>figure that one out.
>
>Lots of gravel roads in the boonies too, and plenty of places to run out of
>pavement not that far from the main roads.
>
>We have it *easy* here in Virginia. In the Carolinas, they have *dirt*
>roads. I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
>live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 8:31 AM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:03:26 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:


>
>Only in Ireland and in the poor misbegotten ex-colony you have the
>misfortune to live in.

Hell, weegee, at least we're an EX colony. (note to Northern Defense
Perimeter - watch for incoming)
>

>>THE IRISH INVENTED WHISKEY AND POETRY AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS, "NAY",
>>BE DAMNED !
>
>Well, I'll be damned! Nay! So there! I have never heard such
>unmitigated BS.

I would have expected you to say, "Nee."

If by BS you mean 'bella stronzo', This isn't a BAD thread. You'll
find him up and to the left.
>
>Tom, you uncannily remind me of my friend Doug, who is also a
>cabinetmaker, pretends to be Irish, is into
>peat-moss-and-caramel-flavoured rubbing alcohol (too much water in it
>to even qualify as shellac thinner

Oy !

>), is given to flights of verse, and
>hates (i.e. is jealous of) plumbers. I suppose you hate grappa too?

Love grappa. Hate plumbers. Hate electricians, too. Like painters -
cause they make my crappy trim work look nice.
>

>>I've a friend who call Courvoisier, "French Whiskey", but I suspect
>>him of being both drunk and Italian.
>
>And your point is?

Proven.
>
>;-) <-------Just to make sure.

I was pretty damned sure anyways, weegee.

If you ever decide to see what life is like outside of the third
world, look me up.

(hooo, hoo -heeeeee...ouch !)


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

16/11/2003 6:27 AM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:17:36 GMT, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:02:39 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Corn? Now we can make whisky!"
>
>That's "Whiskey", gotdamnit !

OK, it's time to trade in this kyboard. It's sticking so
I'm losing my A and E every once in awhile. I think I'll plug
in the spare for a week to see if I can remember why I unplugged
it.


>THE IRISH INVENTED WHISKEY AND POETRY AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS, "NAY",
>BE DAMNED !

I don't "do" either, so stuff 'em in your neighbor's haggis.
(another thing I wouldn't consider doing)

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Mark

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 2:25 PM



Dave Balderstone wrote:

> 2. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years old.
> Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it.


Got over it hell, unless you were wondering why the hunter didn't field
dress Bambi's Pop. (IIRC?)


> 4. Go ahead and bring your $600 Orvis Fly Rod. Don't cry to us if a
> flathead catfish breaks it off at the handle. We have a name for those
> little trout you fish for.... bait.


Get over the kid with a cane pole catching more fish than you with your
fancy rig and 10 pounds of tackle.


>
> 6. If that cell phone rings while a bunch of mallards are making their
> final approach, we will shoot it. You might hope you don't have it up
> to your ear at the time.


Or in your pocket.



--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 1:51 PM


"Dave Balderstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:131120032307091279%[email protected]...
> Because of misunderstandings that frequently develop when Easterners
> and Californians cross states such as Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri,
> Illinois, Minnesota, North Dakota, and South Dakota; those states'
> Tourism Councils have adopted a set of information guidelines. In an
> effort to help outsiders understand the Midwest, the following list
> will be handed to each driver entering the state:

(snip of stuff I saved to my humor file)

Thank you, David. You go.

Bob

BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 6:19 PM


"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:02:43 -0500, Silvan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In the Carolinas, they have *dirt*
> >roads. I've never been able to figure out how people who drive cars and
> >live on clay roads manage to get to work when it rains.
>
> Around where I grew up the dirt roads were oiled. Seemed to keep the
> dust and the mud down a bit.

'Round here we keep the drivers oiled. Doesn't seem to have an effect on the
dust and mud, but the bullshit is beyond belief.

Bob

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

17/11/2003 7:24 PM

The older Norwegians in my neck of the midwest like lutefisk around
Christmas. Many of us younger ones have had at most one bite. (I had one
bite, most of my siblings have had zero.) Lutefisk is a dish made of
codfish soaked in lye. IMO the person who invented it either pulled a
fabuluous practical joke that no one else got, or was so frugal he'd never
throw any food away no matter what had happened to it.

Found this link in another newsgroup. Put down the coffee cup before
opening.

http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~atman/ic/lutefisk.html

-- Mark


UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

15/11/2003 4:51 PM

Tom Watson wrote:
>Around where I grew up the dirt roads were oiled. Seemed to keep the
>dust and the mud down a bit.



Ahhh, the daze of my yout, seeing Russell Bliss out spraying
the roads of Time Beach with waste oil.

http://syngen2.chem.brandeis.edu/~walker/timesbch.html

Ignorance was Bliss.

UA100

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 15/11/2003 4:51 PM

17/11/2003 9:58 AM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:15:06 -0800, Rico <[email protected]> wrote:

>Tim Douglass wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:22:09 GMT, Tom Watson
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Where Usk, with mighty murmurings,
>>
>> Who, and/or what, is this Usk? I used to live outside of the town of
>> Usk in Eastern Washington state and I've always wondered about the
>> name.
>>
>> Tim Douglass
>
>Named after Usk Wales by a Welsh imigrant.

OK. Any idea about the name Usk in Wales? What it means or anything?

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Rw

Rico

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 15/11/2003 4:51 PM

17/11/2003 2:57 PM

Tim Douglass wrote:
> >Named after Usk Wales by a Welsh imigrant.
>
> OK. Any idea about the name Usk in Wales? What it means or anything?
>
> Tim Douglass
>
>
>

I can't make sense out of anything in Welsh. But a Google
search indicates in was derived from the old English word
isca meaning "water".

Just to make things interesting it's actually spelled Wysg
in Welsh. But still pronounced about the same. If you want
a brain teaser, try driving through Wales and remembering
the names you saw in the road sign you just passed.

Beautiful country, nice people, confusing as hell language
and use of their alphabet.

Dick


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"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 15/11/2003 4:51 PM

18/11/2003 8:48 AM


"Rico" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tim Douglass wrote:
> > >Named after Usk Wales by a Welsh imigrant.
> >
> > OK. Any idea about the name Usk in Wales? What it means or anything?
> >
> > Tim Douglass
> >
> >
> >
>
> I can't make sense out of anything in Welsh. But a Google
> search indicates in was derived from the old English word
> isca meaning "water".

Are we playing 6 degrees of Tom Watson?

Bob


BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 13/11/2003 11:07 PM

14/11/2003 1:50 PM


"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Easterners
> >and Californians
>
> You left out the North Side of Chicago.

"What separates the cheeseheads from the dickheads?"
"The Illinois state line."


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