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"tdup2"

25/01/2008 8:33 PM

Finishing Oak - Help wanted

Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the table
was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain the
wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I can get
rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK. Any
ideas?????

Tim


This topic has 11 replies

NH

N Hurst

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

25/01/2008 6:23 PM

On Jan 25, 8:33 pm, "tdup2" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the table
> was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain the
> wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I can get
> rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK. Any
> ideas?????
>
> Tim

Your best bet will be to try to veneer the leg with maple or remake it
entirely, I think.

-Nathan

FA

"Frank A."

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

26/01/2008 6:28 AM

On Jan 25, 7:33=A0pm, "tdup2" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the tab=
le
> was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain the
> wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I can g=
et
> rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK. =A0Any
> ideas?????
>
> Tim

Paint the legs and the apron antique green or blue.

c

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

26/01/2008 5:42 PM

On Jan 25, 8:33=A0pm, "tdup2" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the tab=
le
> was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain the
> wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I can g=
et
> rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK. =A0Any
> ideas?????
>
> Tim

(Sorry if this shows up twice - my first post didn't seem to go
through)

As others have said the oak will likely never match very well to the
maple. However, to specifically answer your question you can minimize
the strong contrast of the grain when coloring oak by spraying thin
coats of dye stain and just letting it dry without wiping. If you
don't have any spraying equipment something like Minwax Polyshades may
show the grain less than a more typical wipe-on, wipe-off stain
although I'm not sure about this second suggestion.

Charles

Jj

Jeff

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

26/01/2008 5:27 AM

On Jan 25, 8:33 pm, "tdup2" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the table
> was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain the
> wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I can get
> rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK. Any
> ideas?????
>

You already know the answer to this: You're going to have to redo it
in maple. Hopefully, you've constructed the leg so that the process is
repeatable. And that's the thing about this craft, really. Leg number
one can take forty hours, leg number two can then be completed in an
hour.

Jeff

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

26/01/2008 3:02 PM


"tdup2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the
> table was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain
> the wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I
> can get rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK.
> Any ideas?????
>
> Tim
>

That's a tall order. It is going to be like trying to turn a family sedan
in to a Pick-Up. There is always going to be the odd looking leg. I would
advise starting from scratch, but use Maple this time. ;~)

Or, fill the grain and paint all the legs.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

26/01/2008 5:11 AM

On Jan 26, 1:28 am, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You can try a whitewash or liming I think they call it. Minwax makes
> pastels. It is just white paint with some type of thinner.
>
> Or buy some Maple and make a new leg.
>
> Or by some more oak and make the rest of the table.

Or buy both and have two tables - one for each!

R

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

25/01/2008 10:28 PM

You can try a whitewash or liming I think they call it. Minwax makes
pastels. It is just white paint with some type of thinner.

Or buy some Maple and make a new leg.

Or by some more oak and make the rest of the table.


On Jan 25, 5:33=A0pm, "tdup2" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the tab=
le
> was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain the
> wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I can g=
et
> rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK. =A0Any
> ideas?????
>
> Tim

dn

dpb

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

25/01/2008 7:58 PM

tdup2 wrote:
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the table
> was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain the
> wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I can get
> rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK. Any
> ideas?????

??? Maple would have almost no visible grain and is very closed pore as
opposed to oak. Sounds backwards. Post pictures somewhere of what you
have and what you want to match...

--

dn

dpb

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

25/01/2008 8:21 PM

dpb wrote:
> tdup2 wrote:
>> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the
>> table was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to
>> stain the wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so
>> intense? If I can get rid of the grain and still have the stain show
>> it would look OK. Any ideas?????
>
> ??? Maple would have almost no visible grain and is very closed pore as
> opposed to oak. Sounds backwards. Post pictures somewhere of what you
> have and what you want to match...

Sorry, I see I misread the posting -- pictures would still help, but
certainly making oak look like maple isn't the easy way to go. :)

You'll have to start by completely filling the pores w/ a grain filler
and then sanding and refilling -- probably at least three times in an
effort to hide the grain texture. Then a wash coat of shellac and a
semi-transparent stain would be a starting point--but, you'll take a lot
of time and effort to even have a chance of coming close. Unless this
leg is a carved leg w/ a lot of effort invested, I'd be tempted to just
pitch it and do another of the proper material.

(Of course, I'd expect _some_ compensation even from a friend doing a
favor for, for that much grief when they gave me a bum steer--even if it
were just my favorite beverage). :)

--

tt

"tdup2"

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

26/01/2008 8:17 PM

Thanks for all who replied. Did get some good answers for future finish
jobs.

Vote is in. Redo the leg in maple. Cost wise it is probably cheaper and will
take less time.

Lesson learned... I have to see it to believe it!

Tim
"tdup2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> Call me dumb! I finished making a table leg for a friend that said the
> table was oak. Come to find out it is maple. Now the problem. How to stain
> the wood an American Oak and not have the grain show up so intense? If I
> can get rid of the grain and still have the stain show it would look OK.
> Any ideas?????
>
> Tim
>

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "tdup2" on 25/01/2008 8:33 PM

26/01/2008 1:42 PM

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:27:42 -0800 (PST), Jeff <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>You already know the answer to this: You're going to have to redo it
>in maple. Hopefully, you've constructed the leg so that the process is
>repeatable. And that's the thing about this craft, really. Leg number
>one can take forty hours, leg number two can then be completed in an
>hour.

I'd do the same.

Think of the really nice, oak pattern. <G>

The new leg is never going to look right.


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