I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
building for a client.
I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
or Monday.
I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
gates turned out...
http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:09:58 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
> building for a client.
> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
> or Monday.
> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
> gates turned out...
>
> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>
> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>
The third spindle from the left on the small gate is off by 1/32" of an inch.
You'll need to start over.
(Nice job. Waiting to see them hung.)
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:13:01 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/26/17 4:00 PM, dpb wrote:
> > On 26-Nov-17 3:34 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> > ...
> >=20
> >> The joint I used is an open tenon, or bridle joint. It is a very tight
> >> fitting joint with a lot of surface area for glue. I don't see either
> >> orientation being an issue, even scaled up in size and weight to a ful=
l
> >> sized door.
> >=20
> > For the short-term moment, no.=C2=A0 For the duration, I'll still bet o=
n the=20
> > traditionally-built door faring far longer, whatever the glue chosen.
> >=20
> > Again, for the purpose, and likely lifetime of the subject panels, sure=
,=20
> > go ahead (why I made no _initial_ comment :) ).
> >=20
> > --=20
>=20
> Yeah, it's apples and oranges, for sure.
> These gate are probably 1/10-1/20 the weight of a full sized, wood panel=
=20
> door.
>=20
>=20
...until the toddler and 3 of his friends all try climbing over it at
the same time. ;-)
On 11/26/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:13:01 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/26/17 4:00 PM, dpb wrote:
>>> On 26-Nov-17 3:34 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> The joint I used is an open tenon, or bridle joint. It is a very tight
>>>> fitting joint with a lot of surface area for glue. I don't see either
>>>> orientation being an issue, even scaled up in size and weight to a full
>>>> sized door.
>>>
>>> For the short-term moment, no. For the duration, I'll still bet on the
>>> traditionally-built door faring far longer, whatever the glue chosen.
>>>
>>> Again, for the purpose, and likely lifetime of the subject panels, sure,
>>> go ahead (why I made no _initial_ comment :) ).
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Yeah, it's apples and oranges, for sure.
>> These gate are probably 1/10-1/20 the weight of a full sized, wood panel
>> door.
>>
>>
>
> ...until the toddler and 3 of his friends all try climbing over it at
> the same time. ;-)
>
Jail break 8:00 PM!
On 11/26/2017 2:25 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/26/17 12:38 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/26/2017 10:57 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 11/26/17 10:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 11/25/2017 12:58 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>>>>>> building for a client.
>>>>>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>>>>>>> tomorrow or Monday.
>>>>>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how
>>>>>>> the gates turned out...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white
>>>>>> slats be horizontal?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
>>>>> Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was more focused on the rails and stiles being in opposite than
>>>> normal locations. Been there Done that.
>>>
>>> Are you talking about the widths or something else?
>>>
>>>
>> Typically the rails, horizontal side pieces, are situated between the
>> stiles, not on top.
>
> Oh, I get what you're saying now.
> These ain't cabinet doors, Bubba!  (That one's for Karl.)  :-)
>
> When I lay out pieces, I go with what looks go to me. One of my
> favorite parts of the process, too. And like the horizontal lines not
> being broken up. I also liked the layout that had the stiles and slats
> all the same length. I just liked those lines.
>
> I also had the hinge straps in mind when thinking about the configuration.
> I like how it looked being mounted all on the rails.
>
>
Nothing wrong with it, I have built plenty of doors in the same fashion.
I was just thinking they were laying on their sides, the vertical
slats certainly make ore sense than the horizontal with kids. ;~)
On 11/25/2017 12:58 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>> building for a client.
>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>>> tomorrow or Monday.
>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>>> gates turned out...
>>>
>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>
>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white slats
>> be horizontal?
>
> No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
> Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
>
>
I was more focused on the rails and stiles being in opposite than normal
locations. Been there Done that.
On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
> building for a client.
> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
> or Monday.
> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
> gates turned out...
>
> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>
> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>
>
Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white slats be
horizontal?
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:09:52 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>building for a client.
>I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
>or Monday.
>I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>gates turned out...
>
>http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
Nice. I like the contrast.
>ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
Third time is a charm. ;-)
On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 1:58:31 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
> > On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> >> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm=20
> >> building for a client.
> >> I found a great hinge and finished the gates.=C2=A0 Installation is=20
> >> tomorrow or Monday.
> >> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the=
=20
> >> gates turned out...
> >>
> >> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
> >>
> >> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues.=C2=A0 Sorry.
> >>
> >>
> >=20
> > Looks good!=C2=A0 Are they setting on their sides, should the white sla=
ts be=20
> > horizontal?
>=20
> No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
> Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
>=20
Actually, horizontal slats are *perfect* for curious toddlers. That's the=
=20
problem.
It's all a matter of perspective. ;-)
On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 7:57:48 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/25/17 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> > I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm=20
> > building for a client.
> > I found a great hinge and finished the gates.=C2=A0 Installation is tom=
orrow=20
> > or Monday.
> > I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the=
=20
> > gates turned out...
> >=20
> > http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
> >=20
> > ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues.=C2=A0 Sorry.
> >=20
>=20
> Here is the lower gate, installed.
> http://mikedrums.com/Baby_Gate_Hung.JPG
> http://mikedrums.com/Baby_Gate_Open270.JPG
>=20
> I ended up using a shutter hinge which worked out perfectly, in both=20
> function and form.
> We are still working on the perfect latch for it.
> You can see the holes in the newel post from the old gate's latch.=20
> Those will be filled or plugged.
>=20
I can see a latch being a challenge. Anything that mounts on the same side =
of the
post where the existing holes are will mean that the mating part will be on=
the side
of the gate that swing against the wall. Wall damage will ensue.
Anything that mounts on the stair side of the post will mean that the matin=
g part will
mounted on the side of the gate that faces into the hallway. That could pre=
sent=20
a danger to right-height kids running around or become a clothes-catcher, e=
tc.
You also want to make sure it's safely accessible from the stair side when =
the user=20
will be up higher than normal.
What about a rod that goes down into the bottom step when closed and into a=
hole=20
in the floor when open? That would be easily opened from both sides when cl=
osed
and would prevent gate from swinging partially closed. The rod could on the=
same=20
plane as the gate and not protrude into any open space.
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 18:26:45 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 11/25/17 6:10 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:09:52 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>> building for a client.
>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
>>> or Monday.
>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>>> gates turned out...
>>>
>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>
>> Nice. I like the contrast.
>>
>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>
>> Third time is a charm. ;-)
>>
>
>Did it show up 3x? I don't know.
Yes, once with two copies as replies.
>Eternal-September servers are having issues.
but worth every penny paid. ;-)
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:58:28 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>> building for a client.
>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>>> tomorrow or Monday.
>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>>> gates turned out...
>>>
>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>
>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white slats be
>> horizontal?
>
>No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
>Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
Great thinking!
Looking good.
On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>> building for a client.
>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>> tomorrow or Monday.
>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>> gates turned out...
>>
>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>
>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>
>>
>
> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white slats be
> horizontal?
No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/25/17 12:58 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>> building for a client.
>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>>> tomorrow or Monday.
>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>>> gates turned out...
>>>
>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>
>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white slats
>> be horizontal?
>
> No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
> Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
>
Also, the intention is for the gates to be inspired by the staircase
handrail which have square, white spindles, closely spaced.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/25/17 6:10 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:09:52 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>> building for a client.
>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
>> or Monday.
>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>> gates turned out...
>>
>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>
> Nice. I like the contrast.
>
>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>
> Third time is a charm. ;-)
>
Did it show up 3x? I don't know.
Eternal-September servers are having issues.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/25/17 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
> building for a client.
> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
> or Monday.
> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
> gates turned out...
>
> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>
> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>
Here is the lower gate, installed.
http://mikedrums.com/Baby_Gate_Hung.JPG
http://mikedrums.com/Baby_Gate_Open270.JPG
I ended up using a shutter hinge which worked out perfectly, in both
function and form.
We are still working on the perfect latch for it.
You can see the holes in the newel post from the old gate's latch.
Those will be filled or plugged.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/25/17 7:51 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 7:57:48 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/25/17 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>> building for a client.
>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is tomorrow
>>> or Monday.
>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how the
>>> gates turned out...
>>>
>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>
>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>
>>
>> Here is the lower gate, installed.
>> http://mikedrums.com/Baby_Gate_Hung.JPG
>> http://mikedrums.com/Baby_Gate_Open270.JPG
>>
>> I ended up using a shutter hinge which worked out perfectly, in both
>> function and form.
>> We are still working on the perfect latch for it.
>> You can see the holes in the newel post from the old gate's latch.
>> Those will be filled or plugged.
>>
>
> I can see a latch being a challenge. Anything that mounts on the same side of the
> post where the existing holes are will mean that the mating part will be on the side
> of the gate that swing against the wall. Wall damage will ensue.
>
> Anything that mounts on the stair side of the post will mean that the mating part will
> mounted on the side of the gate that faces into the hallway. That could present
> a danger to right-height kids running around or become a clothes-catcher, etc.
>
> You also want to make sure it's safely accessible from the stair side when the user
> will be up higher than normal.
>
> What about a rod that goes down into the bottom step when closed and into a hole
> in the floor when open? That would be easily opened from both sides when closed
> and would prevent gate from swinging partially closed. The rod could on the same
> plane as the gate and not protrude into any open space.
>
There will likely be a "stop" put on the wall for when the gate is fully
opened.
The latching mechanism will likely be on the stairs side of the gate and
be a self latching catch. Worst case scenario, some sort of sliding
door loop lock that can;t be reached by the child. Any mechanism will
be on the baluster side of the post.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/26/17 10:40 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/25/2017 12:58 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>>> building for a client.
>>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>>>> tomorrow or Monday.
>>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how
>>>> the gates turned out...
>>>>
>>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>>
>>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white slats
>>> be horizontal?
>>
>> No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
>> Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
>>
>>
>
> I was more focused on the rails and stiles being in opposite than normal
> locations. Been there Done that.
Are you talking about the widths or something else?
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/26/17 12:38 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/26/2017 10:57 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/26/17 10:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 11/25/2017 12:58 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>>>>> building for a client.
>>>>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>>>>>> tomorrow or Monday.
>>>>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how
>>>>>> the gates turned out...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white
>>>>> slats be horizontal?
>>>>
>>>> No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
>>>> Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was more focused on the rails and stiles being in opposite than
>>> normal locations. Been there Done that.
>>
>> Are you talking about the widths or something else?
>>
>>
> Typically the rails, horizontal side pieces, are situated between the
> stiles, not on top.
Oh, I get what you're saying now.
These ain't cabinet doors, Bubba! (That one's for Karl.) :-)
When I lay out pieces, I go with what looks go to me. One of my
favorite parts of the process, too. And like the horizontal lines not
being broken up. I also liked the layout that had the stiles and slats
all the same length. I just liked those lines.
I also had the hinge straps in mind when thinking about the
configuration.
I like how it looked being mounted all on the rails.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 26-Nov-17 2:25 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/26/17 12:38 PM, Leon wrote:
...
>> stiles, not on top.
>
> Oh, I get what you're saying now.
> These ain't cabinet doors, Bubba! (That one's for Karl.) :-)
Rules is rulez... :)
> When I lay out pieces, I go with what looks go to me. One of my favorite
> parts of the process, too. And like the horizontal lines not being
> broken up. I also liked the layout that had the stiles and slats all the
> same length. I just liked those lines.
>
> I also had the hinge straps in mind when thinking about the configuration.
> I like how it looked being mounted all on the rails.
There's a reason for the other way in entry doors and the like as
well...as is, the whole weight of the door is on the glue joint hanging
in the mortise; the other orientation has the mortise as physical
support of the structure.
These are small-enough as to not likely make much difference.
--
On 11/26/17 3:04 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 26-Nov-17 2:25 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/26/17 12:38 PM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>>> stiles, not on top.
>>
>> Oh, I get what you're saying now.
>> These ain't cabinet doors, Bubba! (That one's for Karl.) :-)
>
> Rules is rulez... :)
>
>> When I lay out pieces, I go with what looks go to me. One of my favorite
>> parts of the process, too. And like the horizontal lines not being
>> broken up. I also liked the layout that had the stiles and slats all the
>> same length. I just liked those lines.
>>
>> I also had the hinge straps in mind when thinking about the
>> configuration.
>> I like how it looked being mounted all on the rails.
>
> There's a reason for the other way in entry doors and the like as
> well...as is, the whole weight of the door is on the glue joint hanging
> in the mortise; the other orientation has the mortise as physical
> support of the structure.
>
> These are small-enough as to not likely make much difference.
>
Back in the day, when glue was hit-or-miss, or way back in the day when
the actual joint was doing all the business, I could see there being an
issue with the orientation of rails and stiles, and those techniques
becoming tradition, is likely why we still find it today.
With a properly designed, executed, and glued joint, I don't see either
orientation being a problem even for heavy doors.
The joint I used is an open tenon, or bridle joint. It is a very tight
fitting joint with a lot of surface area for glue. I don't see either
orientation being an issue, even scaled up in size and weight to a full
sized door.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 26-Nov-17 3:34 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
...
> The joint I used is an open tenon, or bridle joint. It is a very tight
> fitting joint with a lot of surface area for glue. I don't see either
> orientation being an issue, even scaled up in size and weight to a full
> sized door.
For the short-term moment, no. For the duration, I'll still bet on the
traditionally-built door faring far longer, whatever the glue chosen.
Again, for the purpose, and likely lifetime of the subject panels, sure,
go ahead (why I made no _initial_ comment :) ).
--
On 11/26/17 4:00 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 26-Nov-17 3:34 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> ...
>
>> The joint I used is an open tenon, or bridle joint. It is a very tight
>> fitting joint with a lot of surface area for glue. I don't see either
>> orientation being an issue, even scaled up in size and weight to a full
>> sized door.
>
> For the short-term moment, no. For the duration, I'll still bet on the
> traditionally-built door faring far longer, whatever the glue chosen.
>
> Again, for the purpose, and likely lifetime of the subject panels, sure,
> go ahead (why I made no _initial_ comment :) ).
>
> --
Yeah, it's apples and oranges, for sure.
These gate are probably 1/10-1/20 the weight of a full sized, wood panel
door.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/26/17 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:13:01 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/26/17 4:00 PM, dpb wrote:
>>> On 26-Nov-17 3:34 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> The joint I used is an open tenon, or bridle joint. It is a very tight
>>>> fitting joint with a lot of surface area for glue. I don't see either
>>>> orientation being an issue, even scaled up in size and weight to a full
>>>> sized door.
>>>
>>> For the short-term moment, no. For the duration, I'll still bet on the
>>> traditionally-built door faring far longer, whatever the glue chosen.
>>>
>>> Again, for the purpose, and likely lifetime of the subject panels, sure,
>>> go ahead (why I made no _initial_ comment :) ).
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Yeah, it's apples and oranges, for sure.
>> These gate are probably 1/10-1/20 the weight of a full sized, wood panel
>> door.
>>
>>
>
> ...until the toddler and 3 of his friends all try climbing over it at
> the same time. ;-)
>
I can guarantee you that if that were to happen, the hinge screws would
tear out from the gate before the joints would give way.
In fact, I would say the same thing for a full sized door.
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On 11/26/2017 10:57 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/26/17 10:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/25/2017 12:58 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 11/25/17 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 11/25/2017 12:09 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> I posted asking for help with a hinge for the Baby/Pet gates I'm
>>>>> building for a client.
>>>>> I found a great hinge and finished the gates. Installation is
>>>>> tomorrow or Monday.
>>>>> I'll post pics of the final installation, but here's a pic of how
>>>>> the gates turned out...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mikedrums.com/Gates_Glued.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> ps: This may be a double post due to some server issues. Sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks good! Are they setting on their sides, should the white slats
>>>> be horizontal?
>>>
>>> No, the stats are vertical, like a jail cell. :-)
>>> Horizontal balusters form a ladder-- not good for curious toddlers.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I was more focused on the rails and stiles being in opposite than
>> normal locations. Been there Done that.
>
> Are you talking about the widths or something else?
>
>
Typically the rails, horizontal side pieces, are situated between the
stiles, not on top.