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Tim Rohrer

05/04/2004 6:26 PM

Bandsaw Gloat(?) and Question

I am not sure I should call this a gloat as I got it from my father : )
Anyway, he had bought a house and it came with a cabinet saw and a bandsaw.
Although he quickly saw a need for the first, he did not have a need for the
bandsaw so he gave it to me. Truth be told, it appears to be a cheap
Taiwanese tool and I cannot find any info on it (It says American TOOLCOA
WBS-14). I put new tires on and cleaned it up. I purchased a relatively
inexpensive 1/2" 3 TPI blade to try resawing. It works okay on smaller
pieces although the scores from the blade are pretty serious and I get a
fair amount of drift that I have to account for using an angled fence. Oh,
and the motor: 3/4 HP, single phase, 1420 RPM. I was recently given a
couple boxes of scrap hard wood and want to cut most of it to 3/4" or so for
small work.

I want to continue to improve upon this machine (although some may offer
opinions on how much I should put into this?) and my search through the
archives tells me I should look at two things.

1) Get a better blade.
2) Install a high HP motor.

My questions for the group are:

1) Which would you do first, put $$$ into a good blade or get a better
motor?
2) How much should I be willing to put into this saw (the obvious answer
seems to be "less than it would cost to buy a new one" but thought someone
might have more insight into what I should spend to refurbish a machine like
this)?
3) Anyone heard of this brand name?

Wr, Tim


This topic has 5 replies

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Tim Rohrer

in reply to Tim Rohrer on 05/04/2004 6:26 PM

06/04/2004 3:48 PM

Where did you get the motor from? Based on the advice of others, I think
I'll start with a *quality* blade and progress from there.

On 4/6/04 08:30, in article [email protected],
"Rodger" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a very old, 1930's 12 inch bandsaw that I spent some time and a
> little money on to make it a great resaw! The people at Timber Wolf
> were a great help in blade selection and blade speed. At first I was
> a little dissapointed in the feed rate until I figured out the belt
> was slipping. That little thing eats wood and I get very true cuts.
> I put a 2 hp motor on it.
>
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:26:56 -0800, Tim Rohrer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I am not sure I should call this a gloat as I got it from my father : )
>> Anyway, he had bought a house and it came with a cabinet saw and a bandsaw.
>> Although he quickly saw a need for the first, he did not have a need for the
>> bandsaw so he gave it to me. Truth be told, it appears to be a cheap
>> Taiwanese tool and I cannot find any info on it (It says American TOOLCOA
>> WBS-14). I put new tires on and cleaned it up. I purchased a relatively
>> inexpensive 1/2" 3 TPI blade to try resawing. It works okay on smaller
>> pieces although the scores from the blade are pretty serious and I get a
>> fair amount of drift that I have to account for using an angled fence. Oh,
>> and the motor: 3/4 HP, single phase, 1420 RPM. I was recently given a
>> couple boxes of scrap hard wood and want to cut most of it to 3/4" or so for
>> small work.
>>
>> I want to continue to improve upon this machine (although some may offer
>> opinions on how much I should put into this?) and my search through the
>> archives tells me I should look at two things.
>>
>> 1) Get a better blade.
>> 2) Install a high HP motor.
>>
>> My questions for the group are:
>>
>> 1) Which would you do first, put $$$ into a good blade or get a better
>> motor?
>> 2) How much should I be willing to put into this saw (the obvious answer
>> seems to be "less than it would cost to buy a new one" but thought someone
>> might have more insight into what I should spend to refurbish a machine like
>> this)?
>> 3) Anyone heard of this brand name?
>>
>> Wr, Tim
>

JC

James Clark

in reply to Tim Rohrer on 05/04/2004 6:26 PM

06/04/2004 1:35 AM

I'd go with the blade. Doesn't matter how many horses you hookup it
won't make a dull or bent blade cut any better.

James


Tim Rohrer wrote:




> I am not sure I should call this a gloat as I got it from my father : )
> Anyway, he had bought a house and it came with a cabinet saw and a bandsaw.
> Although he quickly saw a need for the first, he did not have a need for the
> bandsaw so he gave it to me. Truth be told, it appears to be a cheap
> Taiwanese tool and I cannot find any info on it (It says American TOOLCOA
> WBS-14). I put new tires on and cleaned it up. I purchased a relatively
> inexpensive 1/2" 3 TPI blade to try resawing. It works okay on smaller
> pieces although the scores from the blade are pretty serious and I get a
> fair amount of drift that I have to account for using an angled fence. Oh,
> and the motor: 3/4 HP, single phase, 1420 RPM. I was recently given a
> couple boxes of scrap hard wood and want to cut most of it to 3/4" or so for
> small work.
>
> I want to continue to improve upon this machine (although some may offer
> opinions on how much I should put into this?) and my search through the
> archives tells me I should look at two things.
>
> 1) Get a better blade.
> 2) Install a high HP motor.
>
> My questions for the group are:
>
> 1) Which would you do first, put $$$ into a good blade or get a better
> motor?
> 2) How much should I be willing to put into this saw (the obvious answer
> seems to be "less than it would cost to buy a new one" but thought someone
> might have more insight into what I should spend to refurbish a machine like
> this)?
> 3) Anyone heard of this brand name?
>
> Wr, Tim
>

CS

"C & S"

in reply to Tim Rohrer on 05/04/2004 6:26 PM

05/04/2004 10:00 PM

I agree.

"good" blades are relatively cheap. Try a woodslicer from Highland Hardware
for resawing.

HP is nice. It can be a limitting factor. But also the blade itself can be a
limiting factor. That is, a 3tpi blade at 3000 fpm can only remove so much
material, because there is a sweet spot in the air to dust removal ratio
that will leave a clean cut. I have a 2HP motor on my new saw and the 4-6"
stock has not made the motor flinch. That does not mean that I can push
stock faster. The blade configuration (hook angle, tpi, gullet size has a
lot to do with feed rate as well.

Try a good blade, then see if the motor is a limiting factor.

-Steve


"James Clark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'd go with the blade. Doesn't matter how many horses you hookup it
> won't make a dull or bent blade cut any better.
>
> James
>
>
> Tim Rohrer wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > I am not sure I should call this a gloat as I got it from my father : )
> > Anyway, he had bought a house and it came with a cabinet saw and a
bandsaw.
> > Although he quickly saw a need for the first, he did not have a need for
the
> > bandsaw so he gave it to me. Truth be told, it appears to be a cheap
> > Taiwanese tool and I cannot find any info on it (It says American
TOOLCOA
> > WBS-14). I put new tires on and cleaned it up. I purchased a
relatively
> > inexpensive 1/2" 3 TPI blade to try resawing. It works okay on smaller
> > pieces although the scores from the blade are pretty serious and I get a
> > fair amount of drift that I have to account for using an angled fence.
Oh,
> > and the motor: 3/4 HP, single phase, 1420 RPM. I was recently given a
> > couple boxes of scrap hard wood and want to cut most of it to 3/4" or so
for
> > small work.
> >
> > I want to continue to improve upon this machine (although some may offer
> > opinions on how much I should put into this?) and my search through the
> > archives tells me I should look at two things.
> >
> > 1) Get a better blade.
> > 2) Install a high HP motor.
> >
> > My questions for the group are:
> >
> > 1) Which would you do first, put $$$ into a good blade or get a better
> > motor?
> > 2) How much should I be willing to put into this saw (the obvious answer
> > seems to be "less than it would cost to buy a new one" but thought
someone
> > might have more insight into what I should spend to refurbish a machine
like
> > this)?
> > 3) Anyone heard of this brand name?
> >
> > Wr, Tim
> >

nn

in reply to Tim Rohrer on 05/04/2004 6:26 PM

06/04/2004 8:36 AM

I fell heir to a 14" Rockwell BS with 1/2HP motor and use Suffolk
Machinery blades. 1-800-234-SAWS and tell them length of blade and
what you want to do.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:26:56 -0800, Tim Rohrer <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I am not sure I should call this a gloat as I got it from my father : )
>Anyway, he had bought a house and it came with a cabinet saw and a bandsaw.
>Although he quickly saw a need for the first, he did not have a need for the
>bandsaw so he gave it to me. Truth be told, it appears to be a cheap
>Taiwanese tool and I cannot find any info on it (It says American TOOLCOA
>WBS-14). I put new tires on and cleaned it up. I purchased a relatively
>inexpensive 1/2" 3 TPI blade to try resawing. It works okay on smaller
>pieces although the scores from the blade are pretty serious and I get a
>fair amount of drift that I have to account for using an angled fence. Oh,
>and the motor: 3/4 HP, single phase, 1420 RPM. I was recently given a
>couple boxes of scrap hard wood and want to cut most of it to 3/4" or so for
>small work.
>
>I want to continue to improve upon this machine (although some may offer
>opinions on how much I should put into this?) and my search through the
>archives tells me I should look at two things.
>
>1) Get a better blade.
>2) Install a high HP motor.
>
>My questions for the group are:
>
>1) Which would you do first, put $$$ into a good blade or get a better
>motor?
>2) How much should I be willing to put into this saw (the obvious answer
>seems to be "less than it would cost to buy a new one" but thought someone
>might have more insight into what I should spend to refurbish a machine like
>this)?
>3) Anyone heard of this brand name?
>
>Wr, Tim

Rr

Rodger

in reply to Tim Rohrer on 05/04/2004 6:26 PM

06/04/2004 10:30 AM

I have a very old, 1930's 12 inch bandsaw that I spent some time and a
little money on to make it a great resaw! The people at Timber Wolf
were a great help in blade selection and blade speed. At first I was
a little dissapointed in the feed rate until I figured out the belt
was slipping. That little thing eats wood and I get very true cuts.
I put a 2 hp motor on it.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:26:56 -0800, Tim Rohrer <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I am not sure I should call this a gloat as I got it from my father : )
>Anyway, he had bought a house and it came with a cabinet saw and a bandsaw.
>Although he quickly saw a need for the first, he did not have a need for the
>bandsaw so he gave it to me. Truth be told, it appears to be a cheap
>Taiwanese tool and I cannot find any info on it (It says American TOOLCOA
>WBS-14). I put new tires on and cleaned it up. I purchased a relatively
>inexpensive 1/2" 3 TPI blade to try resawing. It works okay on smaller
>pieces although the scores from the blade are pretty serious and I get a
>fair amount of drift that I have to account for using an angled fence. Oh,
>and the motor: 3/4 HP, single phase, 1420 RPM. I was recently given a
>couple boxes of scrap hard wood and want to cut most of it to 3/4" or so for
>small work.
>
>I want to continue to improve upon this machine (although some may offer
>opinions on how much I should put into this?) and my search through the
>archives tells me I should look at two things.
>
>1) Get a better blade.
>2) Install a high HP motor.
>
>My questions for the group are:
>
>1) Which would you do first, put $$$ into a good blade or get a better
>motor?
>2) How much should I be willing to put into this saw (the obvious answer
>seems to be "less than it would cost to buy a new one" but thought someone
>might have more insight into what I should spend to refurbish a machine like
>this)?
>3) Anyone heard of this brand name?
>
>Wr, Tim


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