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"Arthur2"

20/07/2007 10:03 PM

stair stringer - splicing'

Hi all.
I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 10" wide.
If I was to buy say 3 pices of 2m x 1" lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
beech.
Can they be spliced together to form a 2" thick x 3.3m stringer?

Thanks.

Arthur



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DonkeyHody

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 2:54 PM

On Jul 20, 4:03 pm, "Arthur2" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all.
> I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 10" wide.
> If I was to buy say 3 pices of 2m x 1" lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
> beech.
> Can they be spliced together to form a 2" thick x 3.3m stringer?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur

Your mixing of English and Metric units is messing with my head. I
can think in either, but translation is a pain.

Assuming you are talking about end-to-end butt joints instead of scarf
joints, the resulting stringer would only be half as strong in the
area of the joints as a solid member.
If you want to go that route, I think you should buy at least 4 pieces
so you can make the stringer 3" thick to strengthen the joints. You
would probably not save any money that way though.

DonkeyHody
"In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are
not."

Ap

"Arthur2"

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 11:23 PM


"DonkeyHody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Jul 20, 4:03 pm, "Arthur2" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 10" wide.
>> If I was to buy say 3 pices of 2m x 1" lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
>> beech.
>> Can they be spliced together to form a 2" thick x 3.3m stringer?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Arthur
>
> Your mixing of English and Metric units is messing with my head. I
> can think in either, but translation is a pain.
>
> Assuming you are talking about end-to-end butt joints instead of scarf
> joints, the resulting stringer would only be half as strong in the
> area of the joints as a solid member.
> If you want to go that route, I think you should buy at least 4 pieces
> so you can make the stringer 3" thick to strengthen the joints. You
> would probably not save any money that way though.
>
> DonkeyHody
> "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are
> not."
>
>

I am seeing the joins like this.
top down view.
aaaaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

If the pieces are put thru a thicknesser so they are all perfectly flat I
think by using
a cascamite type glue on the whole joining areas, it would be strong enough.

I would use a base rail to cover the long joins. And then a bit of
creativity to conceal
the joins on the exposed side of the string.

Well would you be happier with this solution or the set of stairs being sold
on ebay
where the stringer is 27mm whitewood with 22m mdf treads?

Arthur


Ap

"Arthur2"

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 10:35 PM


"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:03:48 +0100, "Arthur2" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi all.
>>I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 10" wide.
>>If I was to buy say 3 pices of 2m x 1" lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
>>beech.
>>Can they be spliced together to form a 2" thick x 3.3m stringer?
>
> Why?
>

I might get lucky and source 3 shorter pieces cheaply and avoid calling Trav
& Perks and pay a fortune
for a piece of 3.3m long x 10" x 32mm.

Arthur


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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

21/07/2007 1:11 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Arthur2" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi all.
>I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 10" wide.
>If I was to buy say 3 pices of 2m x 1" lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
>beech.
>Can they be spliced together to form a 2" thick x 3.3m stringer?

No, they cannot.

No matter how you splice them, you can't possibly make a double-thickness
lamination any longer than 3 meters from 3 pieces only 2 meters long.

If you want a total length of 3.3 meters, you need three pieces averaging at
least 2.2 meters long.

If you do *that*, and splice them together like so
AAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAA
then you'll be fine.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 10:20 PM


"Arthur2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all.
> I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 10" wide.
> If I was to buy say 3 pices of 2m x 1" lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
> beech.
> Can they be spliced together to form a 2" thick x 3.3m stringer?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur
>
I think your messing with us. If you are in the U.S., it's known as 1X10 or
2X10. A board has three dimensions and I can't determine the third dimension
on your description.

I do work in either system as required, so I understand metric. Sometimes,
we show both dimensions in both systems.

Oak is not an expensive wood here. It also is not very desirable in many
cases. Cherry, maple, or walnut get's my attention.

Quarter-sawn white oak is expensive and is desirable in many cases. Some of
it is just plain ugly though.

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 11:16 PM


"Arthur2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all.
> I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 25cm wide.
> If I was to buy say 3 pieces of 2m x 2.5cm lengths of a hardwood eg oak
> or
> beech.
> Can they be spliced together to form a 50mm thick x 3.3m stringer?
>
> Sorry for confusing some..
>
> Arthur in the UK.
>
>
>
You are still posting two dimensions for a three dimensional object. My
answer would be "yes if the third
dimension is about 200 mm."

Jim

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 5:17 PM

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:03:48 +0100, "Arthur2" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hi all.
>I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 10" wide.
>If I was to buy say 3 pices of 2m x 1" lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
>beech.
>Can they be spliced together to form a 2" thick x 3.3m stringer?

Why?


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"Arthur2"

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 11:41 PM

Hi all.
I have a stair stringer that is about 3.3m long x 25cm wide.
If I was to buy say 3 pieces of 2m x 2.5cm lengths of a hardwood eg oak or
beech.
Can they be spliced together to form a 50mm thick x 3.3m stringer?

Sorry for confusing some..

Arthur in the UK.


BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Arthur2" on 20/07/2007 10:03 PM

20/07/2007 9:50 PM

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:35:05 +0100, "Arthur2" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>I might get lucky and source 3 shorter pieces cheaply and avoid calling Trav
>& Perks and pay a fortune
>for a piece of 3.3m long x 10" x 32mm.

1.) Your staircase will end up 2" narrower.

2.) The joint(s) will be visible.

If both are worth the savings, go for it! Since the stringers are
often attached to walls, I'm sure the laminations will be strong
enough.

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