Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
the adjacent walls.
TIA
Cap'n 321
In article <[email protected]>,
Cap'n 321 <[email protected]> wrote:
>Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
>kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
>half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
>the adjacent walls.
I suppose it is *theoretically*possible*, **IF** you have the right
tools. But those would be some *very* exotic tools.
I've done it by taking taking off the wall 'skin' from _one_ side of
the space where the door was to go; vertically sawing out 'most' of the
existing studs (and, admittedly, this was 2x6 internal construction,
not 2x4); then adding in the 'skinny steel' ones that come with the
pocket door package, while building in the header that holds the track;
and finally re-skinning that 'opened up' side of the wall.
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:32 GMT, Cap'n 321
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
>kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
>half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
>the adjacent walls.
>
>TIA
>
>Cap'n 321
Never say never, but I dont' see any way that wouldn't be about 10x
the work of ripping off the drywall.
Pocket door kits replace the normal wall studs with thin steel
reinforced stud-lets turned sideways in order to get clearance for the
door. And the bottom plate has to be cut back as well.
They really aren't that hard to install, but it starts with demo-ing
the wall.
How about using baby gates...that's what I've done on occasion. The
good ones will keep most dogs corraled.
HTH,
Paul
I looked long and hard at this question once. I had to replace the
track in a bathroom pocket door.
I decided that it can't be done, and ended uo cutting out a section of
drywall.
-Zz
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:32 GMT, Cap'n 321
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
>kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
>half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
>the adjacent walls.
>
>TIA
>
>Cap'n 321
From joneakes.com:
Can I repair a pocket door without opening the wall?
Episode #05-167
Try removing the trim around the door. That will usually either expose
the track at the top, or removing the stops or trim down the sides may
allow the door to swing out and lift off of the tracks. Although the
track is installed during construction, the doors are usually hung
just before the trim is applied.
Hope that helps,
--James
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:02:05 -0600, "Steve DeMars"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Why not go with folding doors? You can build as nice as you like. Design so
>that entire door units can be easily removed.
>
>Another option I have though of using my self was a small slender cabinet on
>one side joining a pedestal on the other. Well weighted this would work and
>allow you to design something really nice also.
>
>
>"Cap'n 321" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>> parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
>> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
>> kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
>> half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
>> the adjacent walls.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Cap'n 321
>
Tell SWMBO to figger out how to pay for it, LOL. Or better yet tell her
to figger out how to do it...bigger LOL.
Cap'n 321 wrote:
> Thanks, Paul. We've got the baby gates in place now, but SWMBO demands
> a more elegant solution.
>
> Paul Franklin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:32 GMT, Cap'n 321
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>>> parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from
>>> the jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into
>>> the kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm
>>> thinking of half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without
>>> major surgery on the adjacent walls.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Cap'n 321
>>
>>
>>
>> Never say never, but I dont' see any way that wouldn't be about 10x
>> the work of ripping off the drywall.
>>
>> Pocket door kits replace the normal wall studs with thin steel
>> reinforced stud-lets turned sideways in order to get clearance for the
>> door. And the bottom plate has to be cut back as well.
>>
>> They really aren't that hard to install, but it starts with demo-ing
>> the wall.
>>
>> How about using baby gates...that's what I've done on occasion. The
>> good ones will keep most dogs corraled.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Paul
>>
Why not go with folding doors? You can build as nice as you like. Design so
that entire door units can be easily removed.
Another option I have though of using my self was a small slender cabinet on
one side joining a pedestal on the other. Well weighted this would work and
allow you to design something really nice also.
"Cap'n 321" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
> parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
> kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
> half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
> the adjacent walls.
>
> TIA
>
> Cap'n 321
Thanks, Paul. We've got the baby gates in place now, but SWMBO demands
a more elegant solution.
Paul Franklin wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:32 GMT, Cap'n 321
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>>parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
>> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
>>kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
>>half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
>>the adjacent walls.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Cap'n 321
>
>
> Never say never, but I dont' see any way that wouldn't be about 10x
> the work of ripping off the drywall.
>
> Pocket door kits replace the normal wall studs with thin steel
> reinforced stud-lets turned sideways in order to get clearance for the
> door. And the bottom plate has to be cut back as well.
>
> They really aren't that hard to install, but it starts with demo-ing
> the wall.
>
> How about using baby gates...that's what I've done on occasion. The
> good ones will keep most dogs corraled.
>
> HTH,
>
> Paul
>
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:57:32 GMT, Cap'n 321
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>>parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
>> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
>>kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
>>half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
>>the adjacent walls.
Uh... "half-height" doors? These things hang from the top so me
thinks you'll be impeding the people and letting the animals have the
run of the place.
Personally, I wouldn't want dogs in my kitchen in the first place, so
whadda I know.
"half-height pocket doors"
Huh?? Half-height? To keep a dog out/in?
Go to the hardware store or lumber yard and take a gander at a pocket door
assembly and the hardware. Read the directions and re-think the whole idea.
All the pocket doors I've seen are suspended from the top. So, half an 80"
door would fall about 40" from the floor.
I don't see such an installation keeping any floor-bound pets in or out.
"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Cap'n 321 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Is it possible to retrofit a pocket door without tearing out the
>>parallel wall. In other words, can I do the installation fully from the
>> jamb? We have open doorways from the dining room and hall into the
>>kitchen and need to keep the dogs in the kitchen area. I'm thinking of
>>half-height pocket doors if the job can be done without major surgery on
>>the adjacent walls.
>
> I suppose it is *theoretically*possible*, **IF** you have the right
> tools. But those would be some *very* exotic tools.
>
> I've done it by taking taking off the wall 'skin' from _one_ side of
> the space where the door was to go; vertically sawing out 'most' of the
> existing studs (and, admittedly, this was 2x6 internal construction,
> not 2x4); then adding in the 'skinny steel' ones that come with the
> pocket door package, while building in the header that holds the track;
> and finally re-skinning that 'opened up' side of the wall.
>
>