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02/12/2004 1:35 AM

Mammoth ivory

Assuming (correctly?) that mammoth ivory can be purchased legally
online, anyone know of an updated online supplier (shipping overseas)?
I need a few bits for decorating some inlays.
Maybe someone who purchased more than he needs i swilling to ship some
bits?
And to conclude: do I treat it with the regular tools or will I dull
the tools quickly?
Thanks and have a good one,
Max


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Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 11:37 AM

On 2 Dec 2004 01:35:59 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Assuming (correctly?) that mammoth ivory can be purchased legally
>online, anyone know of an updated online supplier (shipping overseas)?

Looking around the knifemakers might turn some up - you could try
www.knifehandles.com

>I need a few bits for decorating some inlays.

>And to conclude: do I treat it with the regular tools or will I dull
>the tools quickly?

You need to work it with traditional ivory working tools. If you can
find a copy, try something Victorian like a reprint of Holzappfell's
"Ornamental Turning".

It won't dull the tools especially fast, but it's hard going with hand
tools and doesn't handle at all like wood. Wood is fibrous and most
are our cutting tools make use of this. It's also elastic, so a
knife-like separatng cut will get you through things, but ivory needs
that whole kerf to be scraped out (so rip teeeth not crosscuts).

Ivory handles like a hard, brittle plastic and generally needs more of
a scraping action. For hand-carving, try using metal engraver's
gravers, not chisels and gouges. To saw it, I suggest a fine-tooth
narrow-kerf saw like a gent's saw, or even a hacksaw (huge kerf
though), rather than a tenon saw. Hard waxes are good for finishing.

To identify real mammoth, look at the Schreger patterns
http://aic.stanford.edu/jaic/articles/jaic32-03-003.html
(I just love that graph)

BTW - you might want a _good_ respirator too. Working ivory stinks !

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Smert' spamionam

JJ

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 10:59 AM

Thu, Dec 2, 2004, 1:35am (EST-3) [email protected] claims:
<snip> I need a few bits for decorating some inlays. <snip>

Considered vegetable ivory?



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zM

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 10:14 AM

"Wilson Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Our older one is very sick and may not make it through the winter.
> I'll let you know when he passes.
> Wilson

Thanks Will. Can you carve out some steak while you're at it?
; )

DV

Dan Valleskey

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 8:18 AM


try-


http://www.texasknife.com/store/s-pages/TKS_MainframeStore.htm


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"res055a5"

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 4:31 PM

boone trading company in NW washington is one...but they don't sell anything
superb. they are on
the internet.
rich
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Assuming (correctly?) that mammoth ivory can be purchased legally
> online, anyone know of an updated online supplier (shipping overseas)?
> I need a few bits for decorating some inlays.
> Maybe someone who purchased more than he needs i swilling to ship some
> bits?
> And to conclude: do I treat it with the regular tools or will I dull
> the tools quickly?
> Thanks and have a good one,
> Max
>

JG

Joe Gorman

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 11:47 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> Assuming (correctly?) that mammoth ivory can be purchased legally
> online, anyone know of an updated online supplier (shipping overseas)?
> I need a few bits for decorating some inlays.
> Maybe someone who purchased more than he needs i swilling to ship some
> bits?
> And to conclude: do I treat it with the regular tools or will I dull
> the tools quickly?
> Thanks and have a good one,
> Max
>
try http://www.hideandfur.com/ or
http://www.canadafossils.com/mammoth_ivory.html
Joe

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"Eric Ryder"

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 9:06 AM


"Wilson Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Our older one is very sick and may not make it through the winter.
> I'll let you know when he passes.
> Wilson

That's funny!

md

mac davis

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 4:27 PM

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:00:27 GMT, "Wilson Lamb"
<[email protected]> wrote:

we don't need a fart update, just tell us when he dies..

>Our older one is very sick and may not make it through the winter.
>I'll let you know when he passes.
>Wilson
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Assuming (correctly?) that mammoth ivory can be purchased legally
>> online, anyone know of an updated online supplier (shipping overseas)?
>> I need a few bits for decorating some inlays.
>> Maybe someone who purchased more than he needs i swilling to ship some
>> bits?
>> And to conclude: do I treat it with the regular tools or will I dull
>> the tools quickly?
>> Thanks and have a good one,
>> Max
>>
>

b

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 8:04 AM

On 2 Dec 2004 01:35:59 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Assuming (correctly?) that mammoth ivory can be purchased legally
>online, anyone know of an updated online supplier (shipping overseas)?
>I need a few bits for decorating some inlays.
>Maybe someone who purchased more than he needs i swilling to ship some
>bits?
>And to conclude: do I treat it with the regular tools or will I dull
>the tools quickly?
>Thanks and have a good one,
>Max


ivory is harder than wood, but the grain is so tight and the absence
of grit make it a joy to work. it doesn't dull the tools particularly,
but the tools do need to be very sharp.

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Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 4:47 PM

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:59:45 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

> Considered vegetable ivory?

I've done some work with tagua nut vegetable ivory and it was a most
irritating material. The nuts split with a central crack as they dry.
It's great if you want a small piece, or even a ring, but there's no
way to get a solid piece out of one.


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Smert' spamionam

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"Wilson Lamb"

in reply to [email protected] on 02/12/2004 1:35 AM

02/12/2004 12:00 PM

Our older one is very sick and may not make it through the winter.
I'll let you know when he passes.
Wilson
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Assuming (correctly?) that mammoth ivory can be purchased legally
> online, anyone know of an updated online supplier (shipping overseas)?
> I need a few bits for decorating some inlays.
> Maybe someone who purchased more than he needs i swilling to ship some
> bits?
> And to conclude: do I treat it with the regular tools or will I dull
> the tools quickly?
> Thanks and have a good one,
> Max
>


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