I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top =
table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on =
expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is =
my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump =
should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would =
it be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't =
want to get rid of something I could use later.
Puff Griffis
In article <[email protected]>, Puff Griffis
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
> table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
> expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my
> question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I
> salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful
> for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of
> something I could use later.
> Puff Griffis
>
Definitely save it, you must have a friend that has a squeaky clean
shop with no clutter that gives you a rough time about all the junk you
collect everytime he comes over. He will likely be over to ask you if
you have an old motor eventually.
--
http://doit101.com
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:24:02 -0500, "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of something I could use later.
>Puff Griffis
If the motor runs and doesn't need work/parts, pull it out..
Lots of free plans on the web for building your own disk sander,
buffing wheel, etc...
My experience with dryer motors is:
They don't have a complete case, there's often some exposure of the
windings.
They don't have a handy mounting base. They're specialized to being
mounted in the dryer. You can work around this with a little ingenuity
but...
They are usually around 1/3 horsepower. You can find 1/3 horse motors a
dime a dozen with a good case and mounting foot or at least a good case
and you can weld a couple of angle irons to them for mounting.
For sure, look inside your dryer and make sure what I'm saying is or
isn't true in your case.
If you've got one of those funky looking motors, it's not worth the time
to try to make something useful out of it when you can get one ready to
go for peanuts.
bob g.
JAW wrote:
> Puff Griffis woke up and had the following words of wisdom ....:
>
>
>>I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
>>table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
>>expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is
>>my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump
>>should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it
>>be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want
>>to get rid of something I could use later. Puff Griffis
>
>
> Someone just posted pictures of a homemade lathe, that looked as if it had a
> used motor powering it. Just a thought.
Certainly. All kinds of ways, naysayers notwithstanding, of mounting it.
Plumbers tape, straps, homebrew cutouts.
It'll power mandrels for grinding or buffing just fine. Out of the way below
the dust, too. Drum sanders, flex shafts, graywater pumps for the garden -
uses are endless.
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my
question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I
salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful
for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of
something I could use later.
Puff Griffis
I would go for it. I've got old furnace blower motors (1/4 - 1/3 HP) powering a
wire brush wheel (used it the other day to clean epoxy off a bolt - took 60
seconds and worked like a charm, but use eye protection), a lathe (underpowered,
but I can use it for an hour or so before it gets too hot and cuts out), a disk
sander, and a cheap belt sander originally intended to be powered by a hand-held
drill (the drill was annoyingly loud).
Most of the motors and lathe came from my father-in-law, who got them free from
various sources. The belt sander came from by father-in-law as a flea market
find. The wire wheel and disk sander parts were very cheap from the hardware
store.
Anywho, the point is that if you don't salvage that motor you'll find something
you need one for and have to wait to find a motor for it or shell out to buy
one. Or you'll have to go "shopping" the night before trash day with a can of
WD-40, a set of wrenches, screwdrivers, and a flashlight :o)
Shawn
--
Shawn Wilson
[email protected]
http://www.glassgiant.com
The point wasn't whether salvaged motors can prove useful. The
discussion was whether a "dryer" motor would be had for a reasonable
amount of effort as opposed to one with a conventional mounting foot, a
suitable housing that protected it from outside contamination or whether
one could find an alternative at an equivalent cost (free) that was more
ready to go and suitable for direct application to the uses you and
others have suggested.
bob g.
Shawn Wilson wrote:
> I would go for it. I've got old furnace blower motors (1/4 - 1/3 HP) powering a
> wire brush wheel (used it the other day to clean epoxy off a bolt - took 60
> seconds and worked like a charm, but use eye protection), a lathe (underpowered,
> but I can use it for an hour or so before it gets too hot and cuts out), a disk
> sander, and a cheap belt sander originally intended to be powered by a hand-held
> drill (the drill was annoyingly loud).
>
> Most of the motors and lathe came from my father-in-law, who got them free from
> various sources. The belt sander came from by father-in-law as a flea market
> find. The wire wheel and disk sander parts were very cheap from the hardware
> store.
>
> Anywho, the point is that if you don't salvage that motor you'll find something
> you need one for and have to wait to find a motor for it or shell out to buy
> one. Or you'll have to go "shopping" the night before trash day with a can of
> WD-40, a set of wrenches, screwdrivers, and a flashlight :o)
>
> Shawn
The point wasn't whether salvaged motors can prove useful. The
discussion was whether a "dryer" motor would be had for a reasonable
amount of effort as opposed to one with a conventional mounting foot, a
suitable housing that protected it from outside contamination or whether
one could find an alternative at an equivalent cost (free) that was more
ready to go and suitable for direct application to the uses you and
others have suggested.
bob g.
Shawn Wilson wrote:
> I would go for it. I've got old furnace blower motors (1/4 - 1/3 HP) powering a
> wire brush wheel (used it the other day to clean epoxy off a bolt - took 60
> seconds and worked like a charm, but use eye protection), a lathe (underpowered,
> but I can use it for an hour or so before it gets too hot and cuts out), a disk
> sander, and a cheap belt sander originally intended to be powered by a hand-held
> drill (the drill was annoyingly loud).
>
> Most of the motors and lathe came from my father-in-law, who got them free from
> various sources. The belt sander came from by father-in-law as a flea market
> find. The wire wheel and disk sander parts were very cheap from the hardware
> store.
>
> Anywho, the point is that if you don't salvage that motor you'll find something
> you need one for and have to wait to find a motor for it or shell out to buy
> one. Or you'll have to go "shopping" the night before trash day with a can of
> WD-40, a set of wrenches, screwdrivers, and a flashlight :o)
>
> Shawn
Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 12:24pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Puff=A0Griffis)
<snip> should I salvage and store the motor for future use ?
Yes
If so what would it be useful for ? <snip>
Who knows, who cares?
If it runs, save it, come up with a use later.
Use it to weigh down glue ups.
Swap it to someone.
Sell it in a local bargain trader.
Use it as a boat anchor.
Take it apart, and use the wiring for something.
Give it to someone who wants it, and gain points.
Sell it in a pawn shop.
Include it in a yard sale.
Paint it and give it to your wife.
Paint it, and give it to someone you don't like.
Make a Rube Goldberg device, and use that to power it.
Use it as a door stop.
JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:30:05 GMT, JAW <[email protected]> calmly
ranted:
>Puff Griffis woke up and had the following words of wisdom ....:
>
>> I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
>> table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
>> expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is
>> my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump
>> should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it
>> be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want
>> to get rid of something I could use later. Puff Griffis
>
>Someone just posted pictures of a homemade lathe, that looked as if it had a
>used motor powering it. Just a thought.
I have a 1/4 hp motor on my little lathe. Works for me.
A 1/3 hp dryer motor should be good for turning a mandrel
and buffing or grinding pads/discs. Mount a drill chuck
on it and use it as a horizontal mortising machine. Mount
a faceplate on it and stick a PSA sandpaper disc on that
and use it as a disc sander. Mount a flexible shaft to it
and you've got an inexpensive Foredom replacement.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=32960&category=1,43072,45939
Lots of uses.
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:05:32 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>who's seem the inside of far too many large appliances lately...
My tumble drier has just eaten its motor.
My bandsaw is underpowered.
I'm seriously considering switching the bandsaw motor into the drier,
then buying a new and decently powerful motor for the bandsaw !
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my
question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I
salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful
for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of
something I could use later.
Puff Griffis
There may be some uses for the motor but I doubt it would be strong enough
for any practical wood working aplication. Maybe a small home made
stationary disk sander.
> A 1/3 hp dryer motor should be good for turning a mandrel
> and buffing or grinding pads/discs.
The last dryer motor I replaced had an open frame design, and special
bearing mounts which resisted field repair.
Given the availability of reasonable small motors from other sources, I'd
pass.
Patriarch,
who's seem the inside of far too many large appliances lately...
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:05:32 GMT, patriarch
> <<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>who's seem the inside of far too many large appliances lately...
>
> My tumble drier has just eaten its motor.
>
> My bandsaw is underpowered.
>
> I'm seriously considering switching the bandsaw motor into the drier,
> then buying a new and decently powerful motor for the bandsaw !
>
>
Well, Andy, based on your posts here, if anybody can do it, you can.
I get impatient, and tired of listening to everyone's questions as to when
they can do laundry again. That's when life can get expensive.
Patriarch,
who ordered an old handplane this morning as a consolation prize for the
failed washing machine repair project.
I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I
do plan on expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is
destined for the dump should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful for ? I know the question
is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of something I could use later.
"If I had it I would"...make a metal cover for it, get a fan for it if it doesn't have one,
set it up bolted to a bench top or on a wooden base with a step V-pulley on the shaft
belted to a raised mandrel on a block, on which is another V-pulley. Then set up a
wooden T-track on which is a tail stock and make a small wood lathe, or no tail stock
and make a bowl lathe. Then there are accessories to buy that attach to the spindle.
The hight of the mandrel determines the swing distance. Another option is, the
mandrel can hold grinding and buffing discs at the same time as being a lathe. But, if
you use it definitely make a dust cover for it, bolted down around it on the same
mounting base. With the fan attached I would be getting hot air out of the motor so
as not to be blowing saw dust into it. But I don't have the space in which to do any of
it, just my thoughts on the idea, hence the quotes.
Alex
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my
question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I
salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful
for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of
something I could use later.
Puff Griffis
I'm guessing it's likely a 1750 RPM, probably 1/4 or 1/2 HP. Good chance
it's also a double ended shaft. Save it! Buy some arbor adapters that mount
on motor shaft with set screws, makes a relatively servicable bench grinder.
Make a 10" disc sander. Put a fan blade on it, mount it in a box with some
furnace filters for a shop dust filter.
That's all I can come up with for now. Of course, there's always
applications using belts . . .
--
Nahmie
The law of intelligent tinkering: save all the parts.
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I am thinking about a sanding station. I should be able to make one with a
little effort.
Puff
"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:wKJcd.23930$bk1.17776@fed1read05...
>
> Thank you all for the responses. Sad thing JT didn't mention using it as a
lawn ornament.
> Puff
>
>
> What are you going to do with it? What's your favorite idea, out of all
the suggestions?
> (BTW no doubt more will come)
>
> Alex
>
>
Over the years, I've grabbed a few motors from the trash (dryer and others).
Even got chased out of the dump doing this.
One of the most useful machines in my shop is a wire wheel powered by one of
these rescued motors. Start by cleaning the rust off things and new uses
will evolve.
Bill Leonhardt
In article <[email protected]>, "Puff Griffis"
<[email protected]> wrote:
It all depends on how much room you have to store junk. There is a
remote possibility you will find a use for the motor.
Dick
> I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
> table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
> expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is
> my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump
> should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it
> be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want
> to get rid of something I could use later.
> Puff Griffis
>
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my
question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I
salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful
for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of
something I could use later.
Puff Griffis
My knowledge of dryer motors is small. Out of curiosity, what is the
HP/speed of the motor?
todd
OK, like I said before. I hear all these suggestions about covers and
mounts. Give it a look. If you can place it in service without a major
project, by all means. Am I in an unusual situation? I've had a number
of folks give me motors that are ready to go. 1/3 hp and 1/4 hp motors
are a dime a dozen. Don't waste your time augmenting one that's not
immediately suitable. You've got better things to do with your time
unless this is a real tour 'de force.
bob g.
AAvK wrote:
> I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I
> do plan on expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is
> destined for the dump should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful for ? I know the question
> is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of something I could use later.
>
>
> "If I had it I would"...make a metal cover for it, get a fan for it if it doesn't have one,
> set it up bolted to a bench top or on a wooden base with a step V-pulley on the shaft
> belted to a raised mandrel on a block, on which is another V-pulley. Then set up a
> wooden T-track on which is a tail stock and make a small wood lathe, or no tail stock
> and make a bowl lathe. Then there are accessories to buy that attach to the spindle.
> The hight of the mandrel determines the swing distance. Another option is, the
> mandrel can hold grinding and buffing discs at the same time as being a lathe. But, if
> you use it definitely make a dust cover for it, bolted down around it on the same
> mounting base. With the fan attached I would be getting hot air out of the motor so
> as not to be blowing saw dust into it. But I don't have the space in which to do any of
> it, just my thoughts on the idea, hence the quotes.
>
> Alex
>
>
Puff Griffis woke up and had the following words of wisdom ....:
> I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top
> table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on
> expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is
> my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump
> should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it
> be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want
> to get rid of something I could use later. Puff Griffis
Someone just posted pictures of a homemade lathe, that looked as if it had a
used motor powering it. Just a thought.
--
Theres a little man in my head, saying things better left unsaid.
I am thinking about a sanding station. I should be able to make one with =
a little effort.
Puff
"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:wKJcd.23930$bk1.17776@fed1read05...
>=20
> Thank you all for the responses. Sad thing JT didn't mention using it =
as a lawn ornament.
> Puff
>=20
>=20
> What are you going to do with it? What's your favorite idea, out of =
all the suggestions?
> (BTW no doubt more will come)
>=20
> Alex
>=20
>
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:50:19 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 12:24pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Puff Griffis)
><snip> should I salvage and store the motor for future use ?
>
> Yes
>
>If so what would it be useful for ? <snip>
Make one of those fighting robots with it.
> Who knows, who cares?
>If it runs, save it, come up with a use later.
>Use it to weigh down glue ups.
>Swap it to someone.
>Sell it in a local bargain trader.
>Use it as a boat anchor.
>Take it apart, and use the wiring for something.
>Give it to someone who wants it, and gain points.
>Sell it in a pawn shop.
>Include it in a yard sale.
>Paint it and give it to your wife.
>Paint it, and give it to someone you don't like.
>Make a Rube Goldberg device, and use that to power it.
>Use it as a door stop.
>
>
>
>JOAT
>Flush the Johns.
>- seen on a bumper sticker
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 03:20:09 -0700, "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>$30 for a damned magic pulley... 8-(
>>
>>
>£'s ?
yes - even worse. £30 - that's $55 or so.
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 02:19:47 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Well, Andy, based on your posts here, if anybody can do it, you can.
Pah ! You didn't see what a farce the "simple" motor swap on the
cabinet saw turned into. $30 for a damned magic pulley... 8-(
--
Smert' spamionam
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:24:02 -0500, "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would it be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't want to get rid of something I could use later.
>Puff Griffis
if the motor runs true (no wobble in the shaft) and quiet by all means
salvage it. ya never know when you might decide to build yourself a
lathe or bench grinder or something.
> OK, like I said before. I hear all these suggestions about covers and
> mounts. Give it a look. If you can place it in service without a major
> project, by all means. Am I in an unusual situation? I've had a number
> of folks give me motors that are ready to go. 1/3 hp and 1/4 hp motors
> are a dime a dozen. Don't waste your time augmenting one that's not
> immediately suitable. You've got better things to do with your time
> unless this is a real tour 'de force.
>
>
I was NOT talking to you. no on was either. You don't like, call the cops about it.
Alex
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump should I
>salvage and store the motor for future use ?
You should certainly take a look at it. Motors are often handy - it
can drive a polishing mop, honing wheel, wire brush etc. and this
takes little more than a plywood base and a couple of "pigtail"
adaptors on the shaft ends. It's unlikely to be powerful enough to
drive large machinery, but you never know.
When stripping motors, make sure you collect any pulleys (both !),
belts, mounting brackets, connectors, wiring looms, start capacitors
etc.
I don't know about US driers, but washing machines are often _not_ a
good source of motors. They tend to be open case designs, need a large
open fan running next to them to stop overheating, and they can be
electrically complicated to provide reversing or multiple speeds.
--
Smert' spamionam
Thank you all for the responses. Sad thing JT didn't mention using it as =
a lawn ornament.
Puff
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
I don't have any large power tools YET . My large pieces are a bench top =
table saw, drill press, scroll saw and router table but I do plan on =
expanding as soon as my money flow's with a bit more regularity. Here is =
my question. I have an old Kenmore dryer that is destined for the dump =
should I salvage and store the motor for future use ? If so what would =
it be useful for ? I know the question is a bit broad but I sure don't =
want to get rid of something I could use later.
Puff Griffis
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 2:34am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Puff=A0Griffis)
says:
Thank you all for the responses. Sad thing JT didn't mention using it as
a lawn ornament.
It was essential that "you" contribute to the list of uses.
JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker