gg

"gov"

30/01/2006 2:08 PM

Rough Cut Lumber

I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.

Thanks in advance.

TIM


This topic has 10 replies

jj

"jack"

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

31/01/2006 10:59 PM

checkout woodmastertools.com for a four in one molder/planer, even has a
curved molding setup. Very nice machine.....
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> George wrote:
>> "gov" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
>> > I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
>> > for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
>> > thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
>> > cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.
>> >
>>
>> You're right, it is a waste of wood, but when someone else does it, it's
>> your money anyway, so they just include the cost in with the value added.
>>
>> Others have covered the alternatives. You can resaw or use the extra
>> thickness as an attached shoe molding by choosing your shaper profile
>> carefully. It may not conform as well to irregularities in the wall, but
>> nobody looks there anyway.
>
> Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
> boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
> these boards down or waste the lumber.
>
> Thanks
>

Jj

"Josh"

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

30/01/2006 2:25 PM

If you have a bandsaw, you can resaw 5/4 lumber down to 1/2" or so. If
it's fairly narrow (< 6"), you can do it on a table saw with several
passes and a good rip blade, but it's a huge pain. Bigger kerf, too.

Jj

"Josh"

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

30/01/2006 2:25 PM

If you have a bandsaw, you can resaw 5/4 lumber down to 1/2" or so. If
it's fairly narrow (< 6"), you can do it on a table saw with several
passes and a good rip blade, but it's a huge pain. Bigger kerf, too.

t

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

31/01/2006 8:28 AM


George wrote:
> "gov" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
> > I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
> > for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
> > thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
> > cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.
> >
>
> You're right, it is a waste of wood, but when someone else does it, it's
> your money anyway, so they just include the cost in with the value added.
>
> Others have covered the alternatives. You can resaw or use the extra
> thickness as an attached shoe molding by choosing your shaper profile
> carefully. It may not conform as well to irregularities in the wall, but
> nobody looks there anyway.

Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
these boards down or waste the lumber.

Thanks

t

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

03/02/2006 12:51 PM

Thanks again to all who have replied.

I guess resawing is it.

Thanks


tdevery wrote:
> "gov" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
> >I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
> >for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
> >thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
> >cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >TIM
>
> Rough cut lumber is sold as 4/4 minimun. which is 1 1/16" to 1 1/8"
> So even if you bought 2/4, you are charged for 4/4 plus machining.
> This is why resawing is so popular for the hobbiest IMO

GG

"George"

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

31/01/2006 6:50 AM


"gov" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
> I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
> for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
> thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
> cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.
>

You're right, it is a waste of wood, but when someone else does it, it's
your money anyway, so they just include the cost in with the value added.

Others have covered the alternatives. You can resaw or use the extra
thickness as an attached shoe molding by choosing your shaper profile
carefully. It may not conform as well to irregularities in the wall, but
nobody looks there anyway.

GG

"George"

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

31/01/2006 3:48 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
> boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
> these boards down or waste the lumber.
>

Rarely, if ever. Cutting below 3/4" - planes to ~1/2" - starts to get
expensive when you figure the extra waste from saw kerfs so close together.
Not as bad now as the IC circular saws that took a quarter inch, but bad
enough. You start to get squirm problems and possible splitting of the
board from its own weight if you go below that.

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

31/01/2006 12:32 AM


"Josh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If you have a bandsaw, you can resaw 5/4 lumber down to 1/2" or so. If
> it's fairly narrow (< 6"), you can do it on a table saw with several
> passes and a good rip blade, but it's a huge pain. Bigger kerf, too.
>
I've cut a lot of 1/2" from 5/4 on my tablesaw. It is not all that much
trouble.

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

31/01/2006 9:52 PM

[email protected] wrote:


>
> Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
> boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
> these boards down or waste the lumber.
>
> Thanks
>


It depends on the mill.

My supplier sells thin stock at 1/32", 1/16", 1/8", 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2"
but it's expensive. For example 1/2" red oak figures out to $4.20 per
board foot. 1/32 red oak figures out to just under $54 per board foot.

Gag! 1/32" ebony figures out to about $730 bd/ft.

You're paying for the lumber plus the mills time, wear & tear on the
machinery, and loses due to checking, cupping, etc.

Personally, I'll plane 4/4 down as needed before I'd pay the price for
thinner stock.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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t

in reply to "gov" on 30/01/2006 2:08 PM

01/02/2006 5:52 AM

"gov" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
>I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
>for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
>thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
>cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>TIM

Rough cut lumber is sold as 4/4 minimun. which is 1 1/16" to 1 1/8"
So even if you bought 2/4, you are charged for 4/4 plus machining.
This is why resawing is so popular for the hobbiest IMO


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