I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some time,
and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was also a
rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump on
these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it happened,
all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship for
quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and that we
could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To top
things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next week.
Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging by a
thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm assured by
the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care to
offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:27:42 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
|"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
|
|> You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
|> bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
|> medications. Talk about tough choices.
|>
|> In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her
|the
|> medication.
|
|Good call and shows much wisdom on your part. Same applies for doing the
|dishes, laundry, taking out the trash, mopping floors, etc. ... gotta take
|care of your SWMBO, a good one is expensive to replace.
Boy, you can say that again. Been there, done that.
...as much as I expect flack and such, it had to be said...and as much as I
would like to do the LOL thing, I can't...
truth is truth!!! LOL
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> "Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >...all this talk of "coddling" them...why??? If you earn the money and
> >enjoy the hobby, then treat yourself. If you don't it is probably a good
> >bet she'll spend it on stuff you will not be able to see the logic in
(try
> >to figure out that female mind and you will then learn the origin of
insane
> >asylums).
> >
> >If you don't heed this advice, then you are doomed to an early grave and
> >your wife will take up with the pool guy in the mansion she buys with
your
> >insurance money.
> >
> >Just MHO mind ya...
>
> Finally a voice of reason amongst the PW'd masses.
<<snippage>>
> My bride's father was a finish carpenter/painter so she grew up around
> tools. In fact she says that she couldn't be married to someone who
> can't fix things so if I say I'm interested in a tool, she says, "You
> handle the money, if you think you can afford it, buy it."
>
> (Is this a gloat?)
>
NOt too sure about being a "gloat", but I'd go with "drive-by".
And yes, my wife is very much the same way except that she'll figure out how
to pay for something.
Mike
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> I can't top that one. Besides... A dust collector, a planer AND a
jointer
> in one shot? No wonder she's pissed. Sounds to me like the OP got
greedy.
>
>
It ain't nothing!
I bought a DW733 planer, Jet closed stand jointer, HF $150 dust collector,
Bosch jig saw, and a Jet dove tail jig, all within about two months earlier
this winter. No problems from the Mrs., just gotta build her something!
The final (pre)-gloat to top it off, I have been dreaming about a motorcycle
as our kid is old enough, and pretty self sufficiant to be on her own, and
mom and I can go riding togather. Anyway SWMBO figured it was a good idea
too, so I have been doing some drooling at the local Harley Davidson dealer
too! Just trying to pry the moldy money out of my wallet!
Greg
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:tVAZb.370964$na.564893@attbi_s04...
>
>>
> LOL. You guys are funny. Whipped and funny.
> Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?
>
>
Nope! What is mine is mine ,and what is hers is mine too!
Greg
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> how much are they running now? I used to be a Gold Wing owner who got
> sticker shock when I checked a few years ago on the prices: $16,000 and
> some change!
A new Low Rider runs in the $16k neighborhood. A new 883 sporster will run
around $7k. A Electra Glide with all the whistles and bells can go over
$20K. Those are dealer list prices. Some dealers in metopolitan areas have
been know to get $5K or more OVER list price! No negotiating on price at the
local dealers, they don't need to. List price, plus frieght and set up. If
you don't like the price, don't buy it, they will just sell it to the next
person throught the door!
The RUB's, (rich urban bikers), with money have kept the prices up. Harley
has not been able to keep up with the demand, although I belive they are
starting to catch up. Used bikes in good condition sell for what they were
bought for years before. I am afraird this may turn around as the baby
boomers are looking at retirement, and the bell curve is on the downward
slope. I am not buying as an investment so I am not really concerned.
Greg
"JohnT." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Look at goldwings...lot less money than a harley of
> not-quite-as-well-equipped, and a lot more comfortable to boot.
>
> John
>
I don't want a dresser. I don't plan on taking any long trips, just day
cruises so a Low Rider is more my liking. I may get a set of bags that you
can just toss on, but I don't see the need for heavy duty luggage!
I have a couple or frinds that ride 'wings. Yes they are nice bikes, I have
put a couple miles on one, but really not what I want.
I have looked at Honda Shadow and VTX lines but they still run over $12k!
Then a jap bike just drops in value from the day you buy it, where a HD will
stay close to it's original price as long as it is maintained.
Greg
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:03:26 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>DexAZ wrote:
>>>
>> Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
>> became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
>> years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
>> on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
>
>
>Obviously not. You need to reestablish the natural order of things. Tell her
>to shut up and get you a beer.
I did a job in a house where the parrot had learned to say just that.
dismal place, unpleasant people.
In article <[email protected]>, Mark
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Not hardly 'pure and simple'.
>
> I could state that a husband who insists on only joint accounts has control
> issues and believes he must have a hand in every aspect of his wives life
> because he feels she isn't to be trusted. Pure and simple.
Lots of reasons for different arrangements. SWMBO and I have had a
joint account since we married, and I've been the breadwinner for that
time (15 years plus).
She just got back into the workforce after raising two kids and set up
her own account for her payroll deposit. She wants to feel that she has
her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.
djb
--
Is it time to change my sig line yet?
In article <[email protected]>, Edwin
Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> She should also have a credit card in her own name also. Can be handy "just
> in case"
She does, has had for the whole marriage and before.
djb
--
Is it time to change my sig line yet?
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:11:56 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mapdude wrote:
>
>> have the same. We agreed that I would draw $200 a week "pocket money"
>> and she could draw $400 "pocket money" since she usually paid for stuff
>
>A WEEK?
>
>Good grief, you just spent my entire pre-tax salary on "pocket money" every
>week.
>
>We have a similar arrangement, but divide it by 10.
And here my near total monthly living expense amount to $370 a month,
and that includes property taxes, food, car insurance, and utility
bills. I had to take a roommate to help split the bills. Not enough
money for medicine nor health insurance. Hey Bush, I need a job!
:-(
DexAZ wrote:
>>
> Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
> became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
> years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
> on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
Obviously not. You need to reestablish the natural order of things. Tell her
to shut up and get you a beer.
--
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[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
Now I'll bet you just look down right silly in that dress....
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> Mapdude <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
> >in a marriage.
>
> Well, we had regular fights about money until we did that 15 years ago.
> Now we never fight about money. If she wants a dress or some girly thing
> and has the money, she buys it. I do the same. Everyone is happy. The
> only thing we discuss is debt because that affects both. We have both
> agreed to not take on any debt so if she buys something with a Visa, she
> better pay it at the end of the month.
>
> It works for us.
In rec.woodworking
"Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>...all this talk of "coddling" them...why??? If you earn the money and
>enjoy the hobby, then treat yourself. If you don't it is probably a good
>bet she'll spend it on stuff you will not be able to see the logic in (try
>to figure out that female mind and you will then learn the origin of insane
>asylums).
>
>If you don't heed this advice, then you are doomed to an early grave and
>your wife will take up with the pool guy in the mansion she buys with your
>insurance money.
>
>Just MHO mind ya...
Finally a voice of reason amongst the PW'd masses.
You should have gotten some placebo sugar pills for your wifes heart
problem, she would be happy and then you could have gotten the router
bitt too, and both of you are happy!!!
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married,
>>
> we
>
>>>became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
>>>years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we
>>
> spend
>
>>>on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
>>
>
> You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
> bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
> medications. Talk about tough choices.
>
> In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her the
> medication.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
ok, 5 or 6 years at it and age of 53. Either this is not the first one
or you are really a late bloomer.
> SWMBO and I have only been at this for five or six years. We each have a
> separate savings and checking plus a "house" checking account so we can
> easily see how much we have for toys. I try to put all my tool purchases on
> my accounts but sometimes a deal is too good to pass up and she doesn't
> mind when I pull some of it out of the house money.
>
> It's a joy to hear her say she feels comfortable with my tool purchases
> because it's easy to see I'm looking for the best deal I can find on tools
> that are justifiable, ie I'm not throwing money at crap or expensive stuff
> I'll hardly ever use. Given that I appear to have a case of arrested
> development and at 53 can say I'm probably not going to completely grow up,
> it's nice to have that validation. :-)
>
>
exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
in a marriage.
If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?
I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
DexAZ wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:q9BZb.15653$s%[email protected]...
>
>>"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Nope, no need to. When I want something I buy it if I have the money. No
>>one complains about it.
>>Ed
>>[email protected]
>>http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>>
>
> Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
> became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
> years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
> on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
>
> DexAZ
>
>
In rec.woodworking
Mapdude <[email protected]> wrote:
>exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
>in a marriage.
Well, we had regular fights about money until we did that 15 years ago.
Now we never fight about money. If she wants a dress or some girly thing
and has the money, she buys it. I do the same. Everyone is happy. The
only thing we discuss is debt because that affects both. We have both
agreed to not take on any debt so if she buys something with a Visa, she
better pay it at the end of the month.
It works for us.
In rec.woodworking
Dan <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat 21 Feb 2004 11:42:55a, Mapdude <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
>> you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
>
>I do.
>
>Birthday and Christmas presents.
You know, he's wrong anyway. My W has the password to my checking account
and she even pays the bills out of it for me. There is nothing to hide.
Her account OTOH, I haven't seen in years and couldn't even tell you the
balance. Maybe I better look into that LOL
ROFL!
--
Cheers
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"Mark Hopkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now I'll bet you just look down right silly in that dress....
>
In rec.woodworking
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
>She just got back into the workforce after raising two kids and set up
>her own account for her payroll deposit. She wants to feel that she has
>her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.
Which is the reason for doing it. When my W quit her job, I started paying
her a salary out of mine, direct deposited into her account. Believe me,
they like it better that way.
Then again, you always have to deal with the stupid woman's thinking that
what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine.
I identify with you. My wife ran the books for several years early in
the marrage. It was after a month in which we had to pay over $300 in
bounced check charges that I took over the books and put them into Quicken.
We too are in the stage of our lives that the income is always more than
the output from the accounts over the long haul (married 24 years).
There is a more than ample reserve in the bank, etc. to handle month to
month fluctuations in revenue. I don't need to balance the books. I
just monitor the balance to the nearest $1000 and go about life.
Any large purchases are discussed in advance to make sure that,if
needed, the proper funds are transfered at the correct time. Between the
HD Bessey close out and PennState Industries, I just added $600 worth
of clamps to the shop. It was my birthday this month!!!!
Now I do still keep meticulous records of where it all goes on the
computer, but I don't even keep a written register anymore. I do monitor
my statements every month to make sure something did not come out that
was not suppposed to.
nunya wrote:
>
> I used to keep meticulous records of how much was in my checking
> and savings accounts but for the last 8 plus years haven't written a
> single entry into the check register. The only time I open my bank
> statement is at the end of the year to see how much interest I earned to
> claim it on my tax returns. I go to the bank every two weeks to deposit
> most of my paycheck and I look at the receipt to see that I have "X"
> amount to play with minus the $100.00 minimum to avoid a monthly charge.
> I know, I know. That's just not the way I am supposed to be doing
> that, I could be 'taken', etc, etc. but that's my way, for right now.
>
> Comments?
>
Wrong. MY wife and I agree that there are limits to spending each
month. She has funds to spend or not spend on anything she likes. I
have the same. We agreed that I would draw $200 a week "pocket money"
and she could draw $400 "pocket money" since she usually paid for stuff
for the kids during the month (hamburgers, books, underware, what ever).
This is blind money that can go for anything we want, no reciepts
required, no questions, no complaints, no nothing. Her's to do with as
she pleases. I got no controll over where it goes, just a mutual
agreement about how much will be involved.
Monthly, as different needs arise (tuition, house repairs, car repairs,
etc.) arise, we both make adjustments as needed to keep things from
getting to skewed off budjet.
It's not about controll of my wife, it's about control of our money.
Mark wrote:
>
>
> Mapdude wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
>> each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?
>>
>> I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage,
>> then you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
>
>
>
>
> Not hardly 'pure and simple'.
>
> I could state that a husband who insists on only joint accounts has
> control issues and believes he must have a hand in every aspect of his
> wives life because he feels she isn't to be trusted. Pure and simple.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark
>
> N.E. Ohio
>
>
> Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
> A.K.A. Mark Twain)
>
> When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
> suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
>
So true. I also insisted that my wife buy her new car in her own name
with out mine on the title. That way she has her own credit history
with very stong entries.
Then we paid it off six months later with home equity, and she has a
really strong credit profile to fall back on if she needs it.
Yeah, she has her own Amex too. We cut up all the Visa / Mastercard /
Discover cards a long time ago when we got them paid off. All we carry
now is debit cards and Amex.
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Dave Balderstone"
>
>>She just got back into the workforce after raising two kids and set up
>>her own account for her payroll deposit. She wants to feel that she has
>>her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.
>
>
> She should also have a credit card in her own name also. Can be handy "just
> in case"
>
>
In rec.woodworking
Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (Bruce) wrote:
>
>>If she wants a dress or some girly thing
>>and has the money, she buys it. I do the same.
>
>Hmmm... one of my wife's best customers is named "Bruce". That
>wouldn't be *you*, would it???
Hey, keep it quiet or I'll shop somewhere else Howard.
Yeah, I have a hard time going through $200 in a week. Since I work
"downtown" from my house, I end up eating out for lunch most days, and
at $7 to $10 average a day, I can easily spend $50 to $60 (with tip) a
week just on lunch. Anything and everything I want to buy for the week
comes out of that money (beer, magazine, carwash, movie ticket, etc.)
I usually only end up spending about $100 a week, if that much. The
rest just goes back into the bucket until I need it.
Silvan wrote:
> Mapdude wrote:
>
>
>>have the same. We agreed that I would draw $200 a week "pocket money"
>>and she could draw $400 "pocket money" since she usually paid for stuff
>
>
> A WEEK?
>
> Good grief, you just spent my entire pre-tax salary on "pocket money" every
> week.
>
> We have a similar arrangement, but divide it by 10.
>
I tried bringing my lunch, but that got old. Got tired of leftovers.
Don't eat sandwiches. Low carb diet. Cafeteria downstairs at the
office has marginal food at best. Mostly tastes like cardboard.
So, the alternative is eat out at restaurants downtown. You get waited
on, you need to leave a tip. Lots of places where you can get a meat
and 3 for $7.00. Lots of places to eat. Food is great. Get to get out
of the building for a while. I wouldn't have it any other way. I love
working downtown.
Silvan wrote:
> Mapdude wrote:
>
>
>>Yeah, I have a hard time going through $200 in a week. Since I work
>>"downtown" from my house, I end up eating out for lunch most days, and
>>at $7 to $10 average a day, I can easily spend $50 to $60 (with tip) a
>>week just on lunch. Anything and everything I want to buy for the week
>>comes out of that money (beer, magazine, carwash, movie ticket, etc.)
>
>
> If it's some kind of eatery where a tip is expected, I can't afford to eat
> there. Our idea of fine dining is one of those rare trips to Burger
> King. :)
>
> Oh well.
>
In article <tVAZb.370964$na.564893@attbi_s04>, [email protected]
says...
>
> "KS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> > Yeah, go furniture shopping. When she finds something she likes say that
> > you can build the same thing for less money and/or higher quality using
> > your new toys. Might even push for another toy depending on how much she
> > wants it.
>
> LOL. You guys are funny. Whipped and funny.
> Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?
>
My wife and I have separate accounts. OH, are you trying to imply that I
should use MY account to buy tools and not Hers?
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.
>
> She should also have a credit card in her own name also. Can be handy
> "just in case"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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"Dave Balderstone"
> She just got back into the workforce after raising two kids and set up
> her own account for her payroll deposit. She wants to feel that she has
> her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.
She should also have a credit card in her own name also. Can be handy "just
in case"
jo4hn wrote:
> To Wife of NoName:
> When you boot this bozo out of the house, drop me a line. I'll give you
> a hundred bucks cash for his stuff and I'll even pay the shipping.
>
> :-)
Good strategy. I could just a planer, a jointer and a dust collector
myself. I'll give her $200.
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John Grossbohlin wrote:
> So now my wife figures I need a lathe. I think she mistakes my admiration
> of the work of other's for a ploy on my part to get new tools. ;-)
She'll be sorry, but you won't. Lathes are fun. Unfortunately, they're
more fun with a big budget for accessorizing, and you can *really*
accessorize.
(Not being able to afford to accessorize, I can can attest that it's
possible to have a lot of fun with nothing more than a quality mini lathe,
a few hand saws, and a basic set of Chiwanese lathe tools from Harbor
Fright. There are many things I can't do, but I haven't run out of
projects yet.)
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Does she have a good looking sister? Or does she fool around? (just
kidding!)
Vic
> My bride's father was a finish carpenter/painter so she grew up around
> tools. In fact she says that she couldn't be married to someone who
> can't fix things so if I say I'm interested in a tool, she says, "You
> handle the money, if you think you can afford it, buy it."
>
> (Is this a gloat?)
>
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NoNameAtAll wrote:
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for
> quite some time, and all three went on sale recently. In the
> case of the planer there was also a rebate that expired until
> this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump on these
> items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
> happened, all three were on significant backorders already. So
> I talked my wife into letting me order all three with the
> understanding that they wouldn't ship for quite a while (and
> hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already
> shipped. To top things off, today I got word that the planer
> will ship within the next week. Needless to say, my wife is
> not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging by a thread
> now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
> assured by the distributor that they don't expect any until
> late March. Anyone care to offer some marital advice on how to
> handle this delicate situation?
Hmm. I was just thinking that this might be a good time for
Leslie to chime in with something /constructive/. <s>
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DeSoto, Iowa USA
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> She should also have a credit card in her own name also. Can be handy
>> "just in case"
>
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
With wife #1, that would have been my reaction. Which is why we are no
longer married (she has since passed away). Wife #2 -- well, I just
let her run *all* of the finances. She's a CPA, and she has done
wonders for our savings & overall financial condition.
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Mapdude wrote:
>
>
> If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
> each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?
>
> I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
> you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
Not hardly 'pure and simple'.
I could state that a husband who insists on only joint accounts has control
issues and believes he must have a hand in every aspect of his wives life
because he feels she isn't to be trusted. Pure and simple.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)
Get the jointer, keep the tools - dump the wife.
hth,
Vic
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
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>
>Get the jointer, keep the tools - dump the wife.
Sure. As one wife said, she was the housekeeper. Ditched several husbands, kept
the houses--and almost everything in them.
Charlie Self
"Health food makes me sick." Calvin Trillin
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
Buy it. Be King. Enjoy. Shop for new tools or new wife, your call.
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married,
we
> >became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
> >years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we
spend
> >on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
medications. Talk about tough choices.
In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her the
medication.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
One word ---- Tongue!
dave
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
It never ceases to amaze me, the number of men afraid of their wives!
Just remember the last time she spent money on something she
wanted..........did she whine and whimper about you being upset about
the money she spent. It's your money, dammit! Wear your damn pants. Beat
your chest. Grunt alot!
The secret of how to avoid getting married, every 5 to 7 years I find a
woman I hate ( you have to really hate her!!!!!!!!!) and buy her a new
house, a new car, and hand her about 40000 dollars. Saves on the lawyer
fees.
H
Tom Kohlman wrote:
>...as much as I expect flack and such, it had to be said...and as much as I
>would like to do the LOL thing, I can't...
>
>truth is truth!!! LOL
>
>
>
>
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
> You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
> bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
> medications. Talk about tough choices.
>
> In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her
the
> medication.
Good call and shows much wisdom on your part. Same applies for doing the
dishes, laundry, taking out the trash, mopping floors, etc. ... gotta take
care of your SWMBO, a good one is expensive to replace.
--
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Last update: 2/13/04
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> getting my obligatory Secret Santa present, and sizing up the 44-bottle
> wine racks on sale for 35 bucks. Man, were they were _cheap_ looking. Pine
> sticks stapled together in a framework that held bottles. Solid pine top.
> No finish. Looked like they were thrown together by drunk monkeys.
>
> People were buying them in twos and threes. They were lined up four deep
at
> four checkouts, congratulating each other on the good deal. I've gone back
It's amazing what people will consider buying. A single bottle of wine can
easily be worth many times the cost of one of those racks. The chance of it
collapsing and losing a sizeable chuck of cash in the process probably never
occurred to one of those anxious to buy purchasers.
I'll send you my wife's e-mail address (her car is getting old and she could
use the cash)...
"Hal H" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It never ceases to amaze me, the number of men afraid of their wives!
> Just remember the last time she spent money on something she
> wanted..........did she whine and whimper about you being upset about
> the money she spent. It's your money, dammit! Wear your damn pants. Beat
> your chest. Grunt alot!
>
> The secret of how to avoid getting married, every 5 to 7 years I find a
> woman I hate ( you have to really hate her!!!!!!!!!) and buy her a new
> house, a new car, and hand her about 40000 dollars. Saves on the lawyer
> fees.
> H
>
> Tom Kohlman wrote:
>
> >...as much as I expect flack and such, it had to be said...and as much as
I
> >would like to do the LOL thing, I can't...
> >
> >truth is truth!!! LOL
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
"Mapdude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I wouldn't have it any other way. I love
> working downtown.
>
Where I work is one block from downtown. Downtown is two blocks long, has a
pizza shop and now a Subway. There is even a traffic light right in the
center of downtown. To get back and forth from work, I have to drive right
through downtown. At rush hour, I've already hat to wait two changes of the
light to get through the intersection. That gets me PO'd because it then
takes me 34 minutes to get home instead of 33.
OB woodworking: There is a lumber yard around the corner. Great place if
you need a 2 x 4 or sheet of plywood. They even carry three sizes of nails.
Ed
"Wes Stewart" <n7ws@_arrl.net> wrote in message > |Swingman wrote:
> |
> |>
> |> I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know
exactly
> |> how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times.
> Yes. I used to be pretty lax with finances. It cost me money. Now I
> reconcile every account to the penny every time a statement comes in.
I use Quicken. Takes about two minutes to reconcile the statement. I've
been using it for years now and find it simple and fast. It is hand to be
able access your bank on line also. While I only use checks for the monthly
bills, I use a debit card a lot and it makes it easy to peek if you think
you forgot to note a transaction.
Ed
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> If it is then so is this: My wife tells me to go buy tools even if I
> haven't expressed a personal interest in buying them... She must have
> mentioned that I need
> a lathe about ten times in the past month and I only upgraded to the Jet
> cabinet saw in early January!
Tell 'er you need the big Oneway. I can't believe how many guys in the club
have one.
> I think this latest push is because when I come home from the woodworking
> club meetings I tell her about the latest wonders that
> guys in the club showed that night. To give you an idea of the caliber of
> the work one of the guys had a segmented turning in FWW last year and will
> be on HGTV this spring (I think it will be on Modern Masters???). Last
night
> a guy in his late 80s gave a guest presentation of some of the most
amazing
> work any of us had ever seen. He has won awards for his clocks, e.g.,
"most
> complicated movement" and has some on display in museums. He also made
> myriad other very complicated and extremely well executed items that
> involved turnings.
Ain't it great? Our (collective) club has to be some of the most talented
woodworkers in the country. I can't wait 'til Showcase.
Jon E
You get a gloat...marking it down now with LB next to it (lucky bastard)
"Wes Stewart" <n7ws@_arrl.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 20 Feb 2004 21:45:54 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
> wrote:
>
> |I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> |and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> |rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't
jump on
> |these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> |all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife
into
> |letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> |quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> |could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
> |
> |Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> |things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> |Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is
hanging by a
> |thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> |the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> |offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
>
> Tell her that you love her and you're sorry that things are coming in
> quicker than expected. Remind her that (I think this is the case) she
> "approved" the purchases, so the total expenditure shouldn't be an
> issue, only the timing.
>
> Offer to cancel the jointer order if she *really* insists but let her
> know that you need it eventially and buying it later might be more
> expensive. If she insists that you cancel, so be it. Buy it later at
> higher cost. Beside there will be an improved model out next week
> anyway and you'll be glad you waited. And you can take this to the
> bank: divorces are expensive.
>
> My bride's father was a finish carpenter/painter so she grew up around
> tools. In fact she says that she couldn't be married to someone who
> can't fix things so if I say I'm interested in a tool, she says, "You
> handle the money, if you think you can afford it, buy it."
>
> (Is this a gloat?)
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
>
Yeah, go furniture shopping. When she finds something she likes say that
you can build the same thing for less money and/or higher quality using
your new toys. Might even push for another toy depending on how much she
wants it.
My wife and I have separate accounts to AVOID financially related
arguments like, "you FORGOT to record a check again *&^%!". We've had
separate accounts since day one. Works great. My first wife and I
shared accounts and it was a PITA. Separate doesn't mean secret, it
just means each account is managed by just ONE person. Truthful people
don't have secrets to hide. Perhaps you aren't truthful, so you think
everyone else has "something" to hide?? :)
dave
Mapdude wrote:
> exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
> in a marriage.
>
> If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
> each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?
>
> I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
> you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
>
> DexAZ wrote:
>
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:q9BZb.15653$s%[email protected]...
>>
>>> "Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>> Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, no need to. When I want something I buy it if I have the
>>> money. No
>>> one complains about it.
>>> Ed
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>>>
>>
>> Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we
>> married, we
>> became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
>> years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we
>> spend
>> on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
>>
>> DexAZ
>>
>>
>
And I'm watching the specialty shops around here. Already got two
possibilities for things that seem to be selling well and wouldn't take too
long to set up for batch production runs every now and then.
Care to share what these possibilities might be? I've been cutting cedar
porch brackets, building gable louvers and exterior shutters for new home
builders.
In news:[email protected],
Mark <[email protected]> typed:
> Mapdude wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books
>> for each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?
>>
>> I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage,
>> then you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
>
>
>
> Not hardly 'pure and simple'.
>
> I could state that a husband who insists on only joint accounts has
> control issues and believes he must have a hand in every aspect of
> his wives life because he feels she isn't to be trusted. Pure and
> simple.
And vice versa.....
Invest the rebate in flowers, dinner, chocholate or whatever she go for.
MG
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
"Wes Stewart" <n7ws@_arrl.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 20 Feb 2004 21:45:54 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
> wrote:
>
> |I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> |and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> |rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't
jump on
> |these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> |all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife
into
> |letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> |quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> |could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
> |
> |Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> |things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> |Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is
hanging by a
> |thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> |the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> |offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
>
> Tell her that you love her and you're sorry that things are coming in
> quicker than expected. Remind her that (I think this is the case) she
> "approved" the purchases, so the total expenditure shouldn't be an
> issue, only the timing.
>
> Offer to cancel the jointer order if she *really* insists but let her
> know that you need it eventially and buying it later might be more
> expensive. If she insists that you cancel, so be it. Buy it later at
> higher cost. Beside there will be an improved model out next week
> anyway and you'll be glad you waited. And you can take this to the
> bank: divorces are expensive.
>
> My bride's father was a finish carpenter/painter so she grew up around
> tools. In fact she says that she couldn't be married to someone who
> can't fix things so if I say I'm interested in a tool, she says, "You
> handle the money, if you think you can afford it, buy it."
>
> (Is this a gloat?)
If it is then so is this: My wife tells me to go buy tools even if I
haven't expressed a personal interest in buying them... She must have
mentioned that I need
a lathe about ten times in the past month and I only upgraded to the Jet
cabinet saw in early January!
I think this latest push is because when I come home from the woodworking
club meetings I tell her about the latest wonders that
guys in the club showed that night. To give you an idea of the caliber of
the work one of the guys had a segmented turning in FWW last year and will
be on HGTV this spring (I think it will be on Modern Masters???). Last night
a guy in his late 80s gave a guest presentation of some of the most amazing
work any of us had ever seen. He has won awards for his clocks, e.g., "most
complicated movement" and has some on display in museums. He also made
myriad other very complicated and extremely well executed items that
involved turnings.
So now my wife figures I need a lathe. I think she mistakes my admiration
of the work of other's for a ploy on my part to get new tools. ;-)
John
On Sat 21 Feb 2004 09:32:37a, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>>Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we
>>married, we became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked
>>for us for 32 years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as
>>well as what we spend on new furniture etc. May not work for others
>>but it works for us.
>>
> Works that way for us too. 19 years (in June) and counting.
>
SWMBO and I have only been at this for five or six years. We each have a
separate savings and checking plus a "house" checking account so we can
easily see how much we have for toys. I try to put all my tool purchases on
my accounts but sometimes a deal is too good to pass up and she doesn't
mind when I pull some of it out of the house money.
It's a joy to hear her say she feels comfortable with my tool purchases
because it's easy to see I'm looking for the best deal I can find on tools
that are justifiable, ie I'm not throwing money at crap or expensive stuff
I'll hardly ever use. Given that I appear to have a case of arrested
development and at 53 can say I'm probably not going to completely grow up,
it's nice to have that validation. :-)
Especially when I'm about to spend three or four hundred on classes at
Woodcraft between now and mid-May.
Only thing is, now that she knows about the Wreck, she wants a SWMBO t-
shirt.
Dan
On Sat 21 Feb 2004 11:39:46a, Mapdude <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> ok, 5 or 6 years at it and age of 53. Either this is not the first one
> or you are really a late bloomer.
>
Both.
On Sat 21 Feb 2004 11:42:55a, Mapdude <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
> you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
I do.
Birthday and Christmas presents.
On Sat 21 Feb 2004 02:46:06p, "mel" <[email protected]> wrote
in news:[email protected]:
> you just had to go and say that didn't you? that was a fact I've been
> trying to deny for some time now. I wanted tools so i started earning
> money with them so i could buy more tools.....good news is I've
> acquired quite a shop and my wife can't complain cause I've paid for
> all the tools and then some. Bad news is it's become a second job and
> now I've been forced to depreciate tools against earnings for the IRS
> so i'm locked in to doing this for a minimum of 7 years.....
>
Hey, knock it off you two! I'm sitting here thinking I'm getting ready for
a nice little second income after I retire and you guys are letting all the
air out of my parade.
Dan
On Sat 21 Feb 2004 02:33:09a, Silvan <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:
> (Not being able to afford to accessorize, I can can attest that it's
> possible to have a lot of fun with nothing more than a quality mini
> lathe, a few hand saws, and a basic set of Chiwanese lathe tools from
> Harbor Fright. There are many things I can't do, but I haven't run
> out of projects yet.)
SWMBO sat down while I was watching "Woodturning Basics" on DIY, then I
noticed she was coming in to watch every time it was on. Third time she saw
it she says "Y'know that doesn't seem all that hard and it looks like fun.
You planning on getting one of those?"
So, now I've got my eye out. :-)
Dan
On Sat 21 Feb 2004 11:41:34p, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Where you can get into trouble is having people order what THEY want.
> Ugly stuff with ugly finishes and I need it by Saturday as it is for a
> birthday party I'm going to. When that happens, you no longer have a
> hobby, but a job.
No argument there. But I think, if I spend a lot of time thinking about it
while I'm watching that retirement date get closer, I can keep that to a
minimum. I've already got some experience telling people "This job can't be
done by then, at any price", and I can afford to eat my estimating mistakes
at first. I'll keep in mind that old Blacksmith's saying: "There's two ways
for a Smith to go out of business; the first is working cold iron and the
second's not charging enough."
And I'm watching the specialty shops around here. Already got two
possibilities for things that seem to be selling well and wouldn't take too
long to set up for batch production runs every now and then. I wouldn't
mind working a week or so every month to get the money to play around for
the rest of it. :-)
Dan
On Mon 23 Feb 2004 04:18:27p, "mel" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Care to share what these possibilities might be? I've been cutting cedar
> porch brackets, building gable louvers and exterior shutters for new home
> builders.
Actually no. I wanna experiment with it before I shoot my mouth off. But
I'll share the third because I can't set up for it now. I was in Cost Plus
getting my obligatory Secret Santa present, and sizing up the 44-bottle
wine racks on sale for 35 bucks. Man, were they were _cheap_ looking. Pine
sticks stapled together in a framework that held bottles. Solid pine top.
No finish. Looked like they were thrown together by drunk monkeys.
People were buying them in twos and threes. They were lined up four deep at
four checkouts, congratulating each other on the good deal. I've gone back
since Christmas, and they're not selling as fast as that, but they're still
selling. I figure if a guy set up with the right jigs, he could work up to
cranking those out at least five or six a day, maybe ten, that were ten
times more solid than that and a lot better looking too. I'd make up some
stock and see if I could find wherever those folks hung out. Maybe it would
work, maybe not. But from what I could see it'd be worth the trouble
finding out.
Dan
Chocolates, roses lots of apologies and the offer to return the jointer.
If she has a hobby ( my wife's is sewing) try a counter bribe if you bank
account will stand it. Oh yeah lots of smiles and doing of her share of
the chores (however you usually devide the house work)
Joseph.
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
YES, this is a gloat! The most valuable lesson I ever taught my wife was
that good tools work better and in the long run cost less!
Wes Stewart wrote:
>And you can take this to the
>bank: divorces are expensive.
>
>My bride's father was a finish carpenter/painter so she grew up around
>tools. In fact she says that she couldn't be married to someone who
>can't fix things so if I say I'm interested in a tool, she says, "You
>handle the money, if you think you can afford it, buy it."
>
>(Is this a gloat?)
>
>
>
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
Buy some Post It Notes. Two colors, red and green. Start labeling things as
"Mine" (green) and "Your's" (red). Tell her it's just to make the legal
proceedings go so much faster. Agreeing on disposition of property also
reduces lawyer fees.
LOL
"Grandpa" <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Real men don't need no steeeeenkin' permission! 8*) Oh shit, here she
> comes!
>
> NoNameAtAll wrote:
> > I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> > and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> > rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't
jump on
> > these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> > all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife
into
> > letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't
ship for
> > quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> > could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
> >
> > Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped.
To top
> > things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> > Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is
hanging by a
> > thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> > the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> > offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
>
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat 21 Feb 2004 09:32:37a, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> Only thing is, now that she knows about the Wreck, she wants a SWMBO t-
> shirt.
Here you go Larry!
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Swingman wrote:
>
> I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know exactly
> how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times. She, on the other hand,
> thinks that if she has checks she's rich, "dipsticks" her account about once
> every three or four years, or whenever she realizes that she has more
> overdraft protection charges than she thought.
>
>
>
I used to keep meticulous records of how much was in my checking
and savings accounts but for the last 8 plus years haven't written a
single entry into the check register. The only time I open my bank
statement is at the end of the year to see how much interest I earned to
claim it on my tax returns. I go to the bank every two weeks to deposit
most of my paycheck and I look at the receipt to see that I have "X"
amount to play with minus the $100.00 minimum to avoid a monthly charge.
I know, I know. That's just not the way I am supposed to be doing
that, I could be 'taken', etc, etc. but that's my way, for right now.
Comments?
Try building a dog house. Make sure it's big enough so you can sleep in it
for a few weeks.
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
Silvan wrote:
>
> If it's some kind of eatery where a tip is expected, I can't afford
> to eat there. Our idea of fine dining is one of those rare trips to
> Burger King. :)
Eating out can be expensive. I see more and more truckers carring their
lunch. Many of the rigs have fridges and microwaves in them now, but some
just carry a cooler.
My lunch is usually leftovers. We intentionally cook extra so I can make a
lunch for the next day or so. Aside from the fact that there is little to
choose from near work, it is cheaper and I eat better.
--
Ed
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http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
"Jon Endres, PE" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
>
> > If it is then so is this: My wife tells me to go buy tools even if I
> > haven't expressed a personal interest in buying them... She must have
> > mentioned that I need
> > a lathe about ten times in the past month and I only upgraded to the Jet
> > cabinet saw in early January!
>
> Tell 'er you need the big Oneway. I can't believe how many guys in the
club
> have one.
>
> > I think this latest push is because when I come home from the
woodworking
> > club meetings I tell her about the latest wonders that
> > guys in the club showed that night. To give you an idea of the caliber
of
> > the work one of the guys had a segmented turning in FWW last year and
will
> > be on HGTV this spring (I think it will be on Modern Masters???). Last
> night
> > a guy in his late 80s gave a guest presentation of some of the most
> amazing
> > work any of us had ever seen. He has won awards for his clocks, e.g.,
> "most
> > complicated movement" and has some on display in museums. He also made
> > myriad other very complicated and extremely well executed items that
> > involved turnings.
>
> Ain't it great? Our (collective) club has to be some of the most talented
> woodworkers in the country. I can't wait 'til Showcase.
>
> Jon E
I'm looking forward to Showcase also. I'm also hoping to finish a small
chest of drawers in time for Showcase... handcut dovetail case and drawer
construction and handcut daddos for the drawer frames. I'm running out of
time! My kids have been doing so much "work" in my shop that I'm way behind
on my own project plans. It's been a lot of fun teaching them how to make
things though so I don't really mind.
John
...all this talk of "coddling" them...why??? If you earn the money and
enjoy the hobby, then treat yourself. If you don't it is probably a good
bet she'll spend it on stuff you will not be able to see the logic in (try
to figure out that female mind and you will then learn the origin of insane
asylums).
If you don't heed this advice, then you are doomed to an early grave and
your wife will take up with the pool guy in the mansion she buys with your
insurance money.
Just MHO mind ya...
"Joseph Lappin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Chocolates, roses lots of apologies and the offer to return the jointer.
> If she has a hobby ( my wife's is sewing) try a counter bribe if you bank
> account will stand it. Oh yeah lots of smiles and doing of her share of
> the chores (however you usually devide the house work)
>
> Joseph.
> "NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
> time,
> > and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
> also a
> > rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't
jump
> on
> > these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
> happened,
> > all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife
into
> > letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't
ship
> for
> > quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
> that we
> > could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
> >
> > Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped.
To
> top
> > things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
> week.
> > Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is
hanging
> by a
> > thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
> assured by
> > the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
> to
> > offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
>
>
Doug Miller wrote:
>>
>> Obviously not. You need to reestablish the natural order of things. Tell
>> her to shut up and get you a beer.
>>
> You're single, right? <g>
I am now.
--
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> Eating out can be expensive. I see more and more truckers carring their
> lunch. Many of the rigs have fridges and microwaves in them now, but some
> just carry a cooler.
I carry a cooler myself, and I keep enough of a stock of dry goods in the
truck to survive for several days.
SWMBO is the one who goes for the leftovers, but then she has a microwave at
work.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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[email protected] (Bruce) wrote:
>If she wants a dress or some girly thing
>and has the money, she buys it. I do the same.
Hmmm... one of my wife's best customers is named "Bruce". That
wouldn't be *you*, would it???
--
Howard
http://www.MyNewThreads.com <-- my wife's eBay site
how much are they running now? I used to be a Gold Wing owner who got
sticker shock when I checked a few years ago on the prices: $16,000 and
some change! I paid $2,500 for mine, new, in '75, which was the first
year they were produced. Sure miss that sucker! Had a 4 speaker stereo
that I installed into the Vetter fairing. Had a Pioneer SuperTuner
mounted on a slide mount on the handlebars, a power booster mounted on
top of that (Audiovox- cheap, very small, and effective), 4x10
woofer/midranges and tweeters mounted such that their sound bounced off
the windshield up toward my awaiting ears. Those were the days!
dave
Greg O wrote:
> "Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I can't top that one. Besides... A dust collector, a planer AND a
>
> jointer
>
>>in one shot? No wonder she's pissed. Sounds to me like the OP got
>
> greedy.
>
>>
>
> It ain't nothing!
> I bought a DW733 planer, Jet closed stand jointer, HF $150 dust collector,
> Bosch jig saw, and a Jet dove tail jig, all within about two months earlier
> this winter. No problems from the Mrs., just gotta build her something!
>
> The final (pre)-gloat to top it off, I have been dreaming about a motorcycle
> as our kid is old enough, and pretty self sufficiant to be on her own, and
> mom and I can go riding togather. Anyway SWMBO figured it was a good idea
> too, so I have been doing some drooling at the local Harley Davidson dealer
> too! Just trying to pry the moldy money out of my wallet!
> Greg
>
"mel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Start earning more money with your tools than you spend on them.
>
But then you have another job and not a hobby any more. Works for some, but
I've seen a good hobby ruined by making money.
Wes Stewart wrote:
> can't fix things so if I say I'm interested in a tool, she says, "You
> handle the money, if you think you can afford it, buy it."
>
> (Is this a gloat?)
Yes. You suck!
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On 20 Feb 2004 21:45:54 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:
|I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some time,
|and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was also a
|rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump on
|these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it happened,
|all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
|letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship for
|quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and that we
|could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
|
|Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To top
|things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next week.
|Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging by a
|thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm assured by
|the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care to
|offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
Tell her that you love her and you're sorry that things are coming in
quicker than expected. Remind her that (I think this is the case) she
"approved" the purchases, so the total expenditure shouldn't be an
issue, only the timing.
Offer to cancel the jointer order if she *really* insists but let her
know that you need it eventially and buying it later might be more
expensive. If she insists that you cancel, so be it. Buy it later at
higher cost. Beside there will be an improved model out next week
anyway and you'll be glad you waited. And you can take this to the
bank: divorces are expensive.
My bride's father was a finish carpenter/painter so she grew up around
tools. In fact she says that she couldn't be married to someone who
can't fix things so if I say I'm interested in a tool, she says, "You
handle the money, if you think you can afford it, buy it."
(Is this a gloat?)
Dan wrote:
> Only thing is, now that she knows about the Wreck, she wants a SWMBO t-
> shirt.
Get her one of those SWMBO thongs. :)
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"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> Hey, knock it off you two! I'm sitting here thinking I'm getting ready for
> a nice little second income after I retire and you guys are letting all
the
> air out of my parade.
>
> Dan
It works for some people. The problem is that you can enjoy a hobby and
walk out of the shop any time you want. You make what you want and finish
it the way you want. If you can sell it, that is a bonus.
Where you can get into trouble is having people order what THEY want. Ugly
stuff with ugly finishes and I need it by Saturday as it is for a birthday
party I'm going to. When that happens, you no longer have a hobby, but a
job.
People hint that they'd like to have something just like it after seeing
what I made. Most of the time I tell them what the material cost and they
stop hinting. That's OK with me.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
you just had to go and say that didn't you? that was a fact I've been
trying to deny for some time now. I wanted tools so i started earning money
with them so i could buy more tools.....good news is I've acquired quite a
shop and my wife can't complain cause I've paid for all the tools and then
some. Bad news is it's become a second job and now I've been forced to
depreciate tools against earnings for the IRS so i'm locked in to doing this
for a minimum of 7 years.....
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You simply explain that you need these tool, and you don't care to hear
her
> thoughts on the matter.
Works for me ... but I also (tenderly) point out that the cost of the joint
counseling sessions that might result from her non-compliance will greatly
exceed the cost of the tools.
;>)
--
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:q9BZb.15653$s%[email protected]...
>
> "Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?
> >
> >
>
> Nope, no need to. When I want something I buy it if I have the money. No
> one complains about it.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
DexAZ
Mapdude wrote:
> Yeah, I have a hard time going through $200 in a week. Since I work
> "downtown" from my house, I end up eating out for lunch most days, and
> at $7 to $10 average a day, I can easily spend $50 to $60 (with tip) a
> week just on lunch. Anything and everything I want to buy for the week
> comes out of that money (beer, magazine, carwash, movie ticket, etc.)
If it's some kind of eatery where a tip is expected, I can't afford to eat
there. Our idea of fine dining is one of those rare trips to Burger
King. :)
Oh well.
--
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Silvan responds:
>> at $7 to $10 average a day, I can easily spend $50 to $60 (with tip) a
>> week just on lunch. Anything and everything I want to buy for the week
>> comes out of that money (beer, magazine, carwash, movie ticket, etc.)
>
>If it's some kind of eatery where a tip is expected, I can't afford to eat
>there. Our idea of fine dining is one of those rare trips to Burger
>King. :)
You might want to check your lunch time costs in a place that needs tips. Fast
food these days is not cheap.
Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
Silvan wrote:
> I have. It's still considerably cheaper. Especially after factoring
> in the 15% tip that today's wait staff expects.
Are you old enough to remember Earl Nightengale's "Our Changing World"? (I
wish he was still around.) Always good food for thought.
I've invested several thousand $ in "self help" etc. tapes over the years
and have profited greatly thereby. When my car was broken into I noted to
the police that several low $ items were stolen but the theives left the
tapes series (on time management IIRC) on which I'd spent over $250. It was
really ironic -- they left the HIGHEST value items in the car. ;-)
You write well, therefore you think well. You can leverage this into
income, some how, some way. People who can think are valueable.
The most valuable self-help materials I have are written by Christian
millionaires / billionares. I know that probably freaks you out but I have
plenty of "secular" books & tapes too. Ping me offline & I'll send you a
copy of Napoleon Hill's "Think & Grow Rich" if you're interested. It's good
brain food. ;-) I'd also be willing to lend (not give <g>) you a Earl
Nightengale tape series.
I clearly recall about 15 years ago when our finances improved to where
going to McDonald's occasionally wasn't a budget buster. Though 2002 and
2003 were challenges in the post-dot-com-crash world I've always had cash on
hand to pay a couple months bills if all income stopped. (It did a time or
two, too.) 2004 is (finally!) looking pretty good. It's still February and
already I've earned 50% of the total I made in 2002.
My financial prosperity has come from what I've learned in church, books &
tapes. Why not take me up on my offer? ;-)
-- Mark
Charlie Self wrote:
>>If it's some kind of eatery where a tip is expected, I can't afford to eat
>>there. Our idea of fine dining is one of those rare trips to Burger
>>King. :)
>
> You might want to check your lunch time costs in a place that needs tips.
> Fast food these days is not cheap.
I have. It's still considerably cheaper. Especially after factoring in the
15% tip that today's wait staff expects.
Not to mention all the places around here that need tips are standing room
only. 75,000 college students and many of them stupidly going into debt
hand over fist with their shiny new credit cards. (Been there, done that.
Oh the stupid things I paid thousands for in the end.) The only time a
real person can get into a decent restaurant is when the damn college
students have gone back home to D.C./NoVA.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On 27 Feb 2004 02:53:07 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>Silvan responds:
>
>>> at $7 to $10 average a day, I can easily spend $50 to $60 (with tip) a
>>> week just on lunch. Anything and everything I want to buy for the week
>>> comes out of that money (beer, magazine, carwash, movie ticket, etc.)
>>
>>If it's some kind of eatery where a tip is expected, I can't afford to eat
>>there. Our idea of fine dining is one of those rare trips to Burger
>>King. :)
>
>You might want to check your lunch time costs in a place that needs tips. Fast
>food these days is not cheap.
>
I have not ate at a fast food restaurant since 2000, and then it was a
Subway. But, I stopped eating lunch altogether since 1992 and
exercise for 40 minutes, but I do eat one piece of fruit before lunch
time.. My weight is down 35 pounds and no major sicknesses (nor flu)
since. Not only saved on lunch money, but medical expenses.
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> Where I work is one block from downtown. Downtown is two blocks long, has
> a
> pizza shop and now a Subway. There is even a traffic light right in the
> center of downtown. To get back and forth from work, I have to drive
Our town is a bit larger, but there still aren't too many places to eat
downtown. Domino's, Pappa John's, Subway, a local deli (imagine that... a
non-chain restaurant!), a Burger King.
To get to the food, you have to move out to the edge of town, where I live.
Used to be nothing out here but trees and farms. Now everything is out
here excecpt for TGI Friday's and Ruby Tuesday.
> OB woodworking: There is a lumber yard around the corner. Great place
The lumber yard here is over in town proper. Really inconvenient to get to
from here because of the 30 minutes spent waiting at stoplights to go five
miles. They don't stock much, and their prices are anything but cheap, but
they have walnut, and that's all it takes to keep me going back.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Real men don't need no steeeeenkin' permission! 8*) Oh shit, here she
comes!
NoNameAtAll wrote:
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
On 20 Feb 2004 21:45:54 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:
>I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some time,
>and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was also a
>rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump on
>these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it happened,
>all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
>letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship for
>quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and that we
>could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
>Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To top
>things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next week.
>Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging by a
>thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm assured by
>the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care to
>offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
Be extra nice. Do a lot more listening than talking.
Wes Stewart <n7ws@_arrl.net> wrote:
>She asked, "Do
>you have one of those?"
>
>I replied, "No they're too much money."
>
>She asks, "How much?"
>
>Me, "Four hundred bucks."
>
>She, "Oh, that's not too bad, why don't you get one?"
>
>Me, "Oh."
>
>I still think they're too much money.
I got the opposite circumstance. My wife is a CPA. Our exchance
would go something like:
Me: Looky! <some toy> is only <$> at <location>
She: Why so much?
Me: But it regularly sells for over <$>!
She: So? Do you really need it? Is it something that you can make
money with?
Me: Well, no, but...
She: Then if you really want it all that bad, use your personal
allowance. That's what I let you have your $10/week for...
Me: <grumble>
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In article <[email protected]>, "DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
>became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
>years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
>on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
>
Works that way for us too. 19 years (in June) and counting.
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"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?
>
>
Nope, no need to. When I want something I buy it if I have the money. No
one complains about it.
Ed
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:47:46 -0600, nunya <[email protected]>
wrote:
|Swingman wrote:
|
|>
|> I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know exactly
|> how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times. She, on the other hand,
|> thinks that if she has checks she's rich, "dipsticks" her account about once
|> every three or four years, or whenever she realizes that she has more
|> overdraft protection charges than she thought.
|>
|>
|>
|
| I used to keep meticulous records of how much was in my checking
|and savings accounts but for the last 8 plus years haven't written a
|single entry into the check register. The only time I open my bank
|statement is at the end of the year to see how much interest I earned to
|claim it on my tax returns. I go to the bank every two weeks to deposit
|most of my paycheck and I look at the receipt to see that I have "X"
|amount to play with minus the $100.00 minimum to avoid a monthly charge.
| I know, I know. That's just not the way I am supposed to be doing
|that, I could be 'taken', etc, etc. but that's my way, for right now.
|
| Comments?
Yes. I used to be pretty lax with finances. It cost me money. Now I
reconcile every account to the penny every time a statement comes in.
What I find is things like the occasion when SWMBO bought gas at the
country store. The card reader at the pump wasn't working and she had
to leave her credit card with the clerk and the clerk ran another $20
charge and pocketed the dough.
Or the time that First USA Bank was charging late fees when the
payments weren't late. People who carry balances and don't watch this
stuff are getting screwed. BTW, there was a class action lawsuit over
this one. There were documentated cases of people making on-time
payments by registered mail and still getting late fees.
What else is amazing is the number of times that we charge something
and the charge never makes it on the statement. (No, I don't make it
a point to notify them.) I keep up my books, if they fail to do so
then they can pay like I used to.
SWMBO has her own checking account but when the statements come in I
reconcile her account and tell her how much she has. She is one who
likes "different pockets" for different things. Fine by me; she's
been putting a bit away each month in a different account and when I
mention new table saw, she offered up the dough. I got the Leigh
video on the dovetail jig and she watched it with me. She asked, "Do
you have one of those?"
I replied, "No they're too much money."
She asks, "How much?"
Me, "Four hundred bucks."
She, "Oh, that's not too bad, why don't you get one?"
Me, "Oh."
I still think they're too much money.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:44:26 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
|I use Quicken.
Me too.
|Takes about two minutes to reconcile the statement.
Unless you're looking for that 10 cent typo [g]
|I've
|been using it for years now and find it simple and fast. It is hand to be
|able access your bank on line also. While I only use checks for the monthly
|bills, I use a debit card a lot and it makes it easy to peek if you think
|you forgot to note a transaction.
I charge everything and get travel mileage, although the bastards
(Capital One) just changed the terms which had the effect of lowering
the rebate from 2% to 1%. GM Card screwed me too. As a GM retiree I
get employee pricing on cars. The GM card "paid" 5% to be used
against new car purchases. Last year they pulled the offer for
employee purchases. Thus GM did not sell me a new Corvette or
Silverado PU.
I essentially write one check a month to pay the credit card bill.
Everything else is automatic.
Wes
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
Yeah. What did she get you for Valentine's Day? Tell her to consider it
her gift to you that she won't give you any crap about the purchases, and
then make it up to her over time by actually building something.
I have thousands of dollars invested in my shop, and over the next year I'll
be putting a few thousand more into the shop. What does my wife get out of
the deal? A new timberframe house. I tell her that for every dollar I spend
on woodworking stuff, I could be spending it instead on smokes, beer, junk
food, or something else she *really* hates. It's also either that or I sit
my ass in front of the TV and watch something really stupid like NASCAR or
football.
Jon E
"nunya" wrote in message
> Swingman wrote:
> > I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know
exactly
> > how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times.
>
> I used to keep meticulous records of how much was in my checking
> and savings accounts but for the last 8 plus years haven't written a
> single entry into the check register.
> Comments?
Yep. You likely have a more predictable income than I ... when you're self
employed, keeping a vigilant watch on cash flow and financial issues is the
key to making it work ... with all due thanks to computers and software, at
least since 1978.
--
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Last update: 2/13/04
Tell her that the price of the new Harley you were going to buy is
significantly more than the pittance you're spending on these new, very
necessary and not frivolous tools.
Then go to the jewelry store and "bling-bling" your troubles away. DAMHIKT
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
[email protected] (Bruce) wrote:
>Hey, keep it quiet or I'll shop somewhere else Howard.
I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read that...
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Mapdude wrote:
> have the same. We agreed that I would draw $200 a week "pocket money"
> and she could draw $400 "pocket money" since she usually paid for stuff
A WEEK?
Good grief, you just spent my entire pre-tax salary on "pocket money" every
week.
We have a similar arrangement, but divide it by 10.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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"Mapdude" wrote in message
> exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
> in a marriage.
>
> If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
> each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?
>
> I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
> you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.
Sorry, mapdude, but it ain't always like you think got it pegged.
NO way in hell I'd ever be on a joint checking account with SWMBO, and I
love her dearly!
I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know exactly
how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times. She, on the other hand,
thinks that if she has checks she's rich, "dipsticks" her account about once
every three or four years, or whenever she realizes that she has more
overdraft protection charges than she thought.
Let me put it this way ... she has a safety net in life, ME! ... I don't.
I have separate accounts because I figure I owe it to her to be more precise
in economic matter than she was originally built for ... doesn't have a damn
thing to do with "hiding" anything!
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Last update: 2/13/04
"KS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> Yeah, go furniture shopping. When she finds something she likes say that
> you can build the same thing for less money and/or higher quality using
> your new toys. Might even push for another toy depending on how much she
> wants it.
LOL. You guys are funny. Whipped and funny.
Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?
ClemsonDave wrote:
>> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
> One word ---- Tongue!
ROTFLMAO!!!
I can't top that one. Besides... A dust collector, a planer AND a jointer
in one shot? No wonder she's pissed. Sounds to me like the OP got greedy.
Besides, don't let those good deal limited time only prices lure you into a
buying frenzy if you can't afford it. $100 saved on a blurfl isn't really
$100 saved if you pay interest on the damn credit card.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 11:25pm (EST+5) [email protected] (jo4hn) says:
<snip> To Wife of NoName:
When you boot this bozo out of the house, drop me a line. I'll give you
a hundred bucks cash for his stuff and I'll even pay the shipping.
Somehow the other day I tuned in to the Riki Lake show. They were
featuring guys who collected things, and their families thought they
were nuts, so I watched. They had appraisors there too.
One poor SOB had been collecting sports cards since he was about 5
YO. His wife decided she wanted the space in the garage for her stuff.
So she sold his cards. Without asking him. Guy showed up the morning
after she put the ad in and took the lot - for $200. The first the
husband knew about it, he went to the garage, to do his montly value
check. He somehow salvaged 17. They were re-pops of 60s cards, not
originals. Even so, the expert said they were worth from $25-$50 each,
for a total value of $800. So, with 100,000 cards, that could figure
out to a potential $2.5 million, or even more. Even at one cent per
card, it still would have come to $1,000. Her only comment was she was
happy they were gone, and she was going to try and get rid of the
remaining 17 too. He said he loved her and would stay with her. He
never did say what he thought the value was. Hell, even women in the
audience were saying he should dump her. I figure, at the least, he
should have dumped her, and asked for spousal support, justified by the
fact that she's apparently doing so well, she can afford to get rid of a
potential fortune, for only $200, so she could surely afford spousal
support. I don't think I could stay with someone that stupid.
JOAT
Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be
left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is
too precious to be left to politicians.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKEVOCALS/
In article <2WGZb.22251$%[email protected]>, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>DexAZ wrote:
>>>
>> Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
>> became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
>> years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
>> on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.
>
>
>Obviously not. You need to reestablish the natural order of things. Tell her
>to shut up and get you a beer.
>
You're single, right? <g>
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"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ClemsonDave wrote:
>
> >> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?
>
> > One word ---- Tongue!
>
> ROTFLMAO!!!
>
> I can't top that one. Besides... A dust collector, a planer AND a
jointer
> in one shot? No wonder she's pissed. Sounds to me like the OP got
greedy.
I'd be totally dead if I bought all three at once. That's something like 6
grand from my perspective. Buying a used Wood-Mizer was bad enough.
Jon E
I, for one, need no lessons and/or assistance to infuriate my wife. I'm
quite capable of doing that all by myself. I am so good at it that I now
able to do so without intending to or even knowing that I have.
Enjoy your new toys!
DexAZ
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
> and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
> rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
> these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
> all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
> letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
> quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
> could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.
>
> Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
> things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
> Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
> thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
> the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
> offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?