JH

"Jim Helfer"

09/02/2004 2:15 PM

finishing in the cold

A newbie question about staining and varnishing and the temperature.

I am ready to finish a project. My basement shop holds steady at 50F. I
plan to use a dye-stain and then polyurethane on read oak.

The can doesn't have much to say about temperature. I assume that drying
times will be increased. Any thing else I should watch out for?

Jim


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JH

Jim Helfer

in reply to "Jim Helfer" on 09/02/2004 2:15 PM

10/02/2004 12:51 PM

Mike Hide wrote:
> Heck thats not nearly as cold as the fellow doing 25 degree
> dovetails.....mjh
>

Loose a lot of doves that way if'n your not careful.




>
>
>
> "Anthony Diodati" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I think you would be OK at 50 degrees F.
>>Dry time will increase, yes.
>>Don't foresee any other problems, JMO
>> Tony D.
>>"Jim Helfer" <jhelfer@REMOVE~THISwtwarch.com> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>A newbie question about staining and varnishing and the temperature.
>>>
>>> I am ready to finish a project. My basement shop holds steady at 50F.
>
> I
>
>>>plan to use a dye-stain and then polyurethane on read oak.
>>>
>>> The can doesn't have much to say about temperature. I assume that
>>
>>drying
>>
>>>times will be increased. Any thing else I should watch out for?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

TK

"Tom Kohlman"

in reply to "Jim Helfer" on 09/02/2004 2:15 PM

11/02/2004 2:10 AM

Read the label directions. 50F is getting "iffy" I think (only know because
I'm trying to finish something where ambient temp is 20F on good days and
the kero heater is running overtime trying to keep up. Give it a couple of
months and it will be too hot for stain or varnish LOL). I think most
things want 55F minimum.

You should be able to stain at that temp but give extra time. Ever try
water based-poly? When the stain is dry you can actually do the poly with
that stuff in the comfort of your living room...not much odor and it dries
quick allowing multiple coats in a matter of hours. Just a thought.

"Anthony Diodati" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think you would be OK at 50 degrees F.
> Dry time will increase, yes.
> Don't foresee any other problems, JMO
> Tony D.
> "Jim Helfer" <jhelfer@REMOVE~THISwtwarch.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A newbie question about staining and varnishing and the temperature.
> >
> > I am ready to finish a project. My basement shop holds steady at 50F.
I
> > plan to use a dye-stain and then polyurethane on read oak.
> >
> > The can doesn't have much to say about temperature. I assume that
> drying
> > times will be increased. Any thing else I should watch out for?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
>

JD

"Joe & Donna Chandu-Lall"

in reply to "Jim Helfer" on 09/02/2004 2:15 PM

13/02/2004 4:34 PM

This may not work for poly but.....I have sprayed lacquer for years
sometimes in cold weather (-10 cel. and in a garage). I heat the lacquer in
warm water and the spray gun pot in warm water. NOTE!!!!! Each finish has a
flash point that ignites the finish if the temperature reaches the flash
point !!!! so know your product. Also if you can keep the piece that you are
working on warm until you finish it, plus keep your finish warm, you should
not have any problems...Like I started with, this has worked well for me
spraying Lacquer...ADD NOTE - FIND THE FLASH POINT OF YOUR FINISH.
"Jim Helfer" <jhelfer@REMOVE~THISwtwarch.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Read the label directions. 50F is getting "iffy" I think (only know
> because
> > I'm trying to finish something where ambient temp is 20F on good days
and
> > the kero heater is running overtime trying to keep up. Give it a couple
of
> > months and it will be too hot for stain or varnish LOL). I think most
> > things want 55F minimum.
> >
>
> Couldn't find any temperature guidelines (rather than the storage range)
> on the label, hence my post. But I lucked out a bit, and rising
temperatures
> here have risen my basemetn temperature to 55F.
>
> But, I screwed up anyway, and used too much poly on the brush (or
> something) and got a lot of air bubbles <sigh>
>
> > You should be able to stain at that temp but give extra time. Ever try
> > water based-poly? When the stain is dry you can actually do the poly
with
> > that stuff in the comfort of your living room...not much odor and it
dries
> > quick allowing multiple coats in a matter of hours. Just a thought.
> >
>
> Haven't tried it yet,(my choice was partially based on the full can of
> oil-based that I have on the shelf). Next itme maybe. Thanks for the
tip!
>
>
>
> > "Anthony Diodati" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I think you would be OK at 50 degrees F.
> > > Dry time will increase, yes.
> > > Don't foresee any other problems, JMO
> > > Tony D.
> > > "Jim Helfer" <jhelfer@REMOVE~THISwtwarch.com> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > A newbie question about staining and varnishing and the temperature.
> > > >
> > > > I am ready to finish a project. My basement shop holds steady at
> 50F.
> > I
> > > > plan to use a dye-stain and then polyurethane on read oak.
> > > >
> > > > The can doesn't have much to say about temperature. I assume that
> > > drying
> > > > times will be increased. Any thing else I should watch out for?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

AD

"Anthony Diodati"

in reply to "Jim Helfer" on 09/02/2004 2:15 PM

09/02/2004 3:13 PM

I think you would be OK at 50 degrees F.
Dry time will increase, yes.
Don't foresee any other problems, JMO
Tony D.
"Jim Helfer" <jhelfer@REMOVE~THISwtwarch.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A newbie question about staining and varnishing and the temperature.
>
> I am ready to finish a project. My basement shop holds steady at 50F. I
> plan to use a dye-stain and then polyurethane on read oak.
>
> The can doesn't have much to say about temperature. I assume that
drying
> times will be increased. Any thing else I should watch out for?
>
> Jim
>
>

JH

"Jim Helfer"

in reply to "Jim Helfer" on 09/02/2004 2:15 PM

11/02/2004 10:11 AM


"Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Read the label directions. 50F is getting "iffy" I think (only know
because
> I'm trying to finish something where ambient temp is 20F on good days and
> the kero heater is running overtime trying to keep up. Give it a couple of
> months and it will be too hot for stain or varnish LOL). I think most
> things want 55F minimum.
>

Couldn't find any temperature guidelines (rather than the storage range)
on the label, hence my post. But I lucked out a bit, and rising temperatures
here have risen my basemetn temperature to 55F.

But, I screwed up anyway, and used too much poly on the brush (or
something) and got a lot of air bubbles <sigh>

> You should be able to stain at that temp but give extra time. Ever try
> water based-poly? When the stain is dry you can actually do the poly with
> that stuff in the comfort of your living room...not much odor and it dries
> quick allowing multiple coats in a matter of hours. Just a thought.
>

Haven't tried it yet,(my choice was partially based on the full can of
oil-based that I have on the shelf). Next itme maybe. Thanks for the tip!



> "Anthony Diodati" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I think you would be OK at 50 degrees F.
> > Dry time will increase, yes.
> > Don't foresee any other problems, JMO
> > Tony D.
> > "Jim Helfer" <jhelfer@REMOVE~THISwtwarch.com> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > A newbie question about staining and varnishing and the temperature.
> > >
> > > I am ready to finish a project. My basement shop holds steady at
50F.
> I
> > > plan to use a dye-stain and then polyurethane on read oak.
> > >
> > > The can doesn't have much to say about temperature. I assume that
> > drying
> > > times will be increased. Any thing else I should watch out for?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to "Jim Helfer" on 09/02/2004 2:15 PM

10/02/2004 6:26 AM

Heck thats not nearly as cold as the fellow doing 25 degree
dovetails.....mjh




"Anthony Diodati" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think you would be OK at 50 degrees F.
> Dry time will increase, yes.
> Don't foresee any other problems, JMO
> Tony D.
> "Jim Helfer" <jhelfer@REMOVE~THISwtwarch.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A newbie question about staining and varnishing and the temperature.
> >
> > I am ready to finish a project. My basement shop holds steady at 50F.
I
> > plan to use a dye-stain and then polyurethane on read oak.
> >
> > The can doesn't have much to say about temperature. I assume that
> drying
> > times will be increased. Any thing else I should watch out for?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
>


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