I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the trash
cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an area
prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does anyone
have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to handle
year-round?
My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
notbob <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 2010-03-02, Puckdropper <puckdropper> wrote:
>
>> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels
>> on it to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>
> What kinda wild animals? Short of bears, you should have no problems.
> A stout wood box with slanted hinged cover w/ clasp lock should keep
> the smaller varmints out. All our regular dumpsters have black
> plastic hinged tops, so snow accumulation is not a problem. A slick
> black paint or roofing material should work.
>
> If you have bears, it's a whole new ballgame. Our disposal company
> gave us a couple bear-proof dumpsters after a rash of bear problems,
> last Fall. Hell, human beings can barely get into them! They're the
> child-proof caps of dumpsters. ;)
>
> nb
Small critters mainly. (Wild animals does evoke an image of large ones.
Poor word choice on my part.) The racoons have a reputation for being
crafty and figuring out how to get in to things, so I was wondering if
just a regular hasp (or a turning hasp) would work. If I put a lock on
it, then everyone would need a key to get inside, which means the trash
will get stuffed in my garshop anyway.
The black sloped roof makes a lot of sense, even though their intended
storage place doesn't get much sun.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:19:08 -0600, the infamous Steve Turner
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 03/02/2010 09:37 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On Mar 2, 10:16 am, "WW"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Puckdropper"<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>
>>> Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in our
>>> deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger rail
>>> to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 feet
>>> above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
>>
>> I like that approach. A couple of caps and an old TV flyback
>> transformer works nice too.
>
>I'm gonna sick PETA on you guys. Raccoons have feelings too!
What do the People for the Eating of Tasty Animals have to do with
this, Steve?
>Raccoons have feelings too!
Yeah, they'll feel that "This diner hurts too much to enjoy. Let's go
somewhere else, QUICK!"
--
Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both.
--Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Michael Kenefick <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> definitely put the wheels on it. 'Everyones' Favorite HFT has 10" air
> filled tire on sale often. I have got them for $3.99 before. This
> week they are $5.99 in my catalog (or weekly e-mail) SKU 30900-0VGA.
> I use them on the push carts I make for my kids for the 4TH of July
> and playing on the sidewalks. They hold me, so they will hold lots of
> trash.
>
> Mike in Ohio
That sounds like a good starting place. With 3 or 4 of them on there, it
should be quite easy to pull.
Ever seen the hitch/handle that some wagons have? It's a standard T
handle that can be twisted out of the way to connect to a standard
mower/ATV hitch if you don't want to pull the load yourself. I sure
wouldn't mind having one of those.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
notbob <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 2010-03-02, Puckdropper <puckdropper> wrote:
>
>> just a regular hasp (or a turning hasp) would work. If I put a lock
>> on it, then everyone would need a key to get inside....
>
> The bear proof dumpsters use turning hasps PLUS an old-fashion steel
> keychain slide clip attached to a chain. A good carbiner type clip
> might work, too.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ydtrp3r
> http://images.solidcactus.com/autobarn/wilmar-d-clip-keychain.jpg
>
> Another thought. I'm no woodworker, but seems to me putting lengths
> of 1"x1" or 1"x2" around the inside edges of the hinged lid would not
> only make it stiffer, but would further obstruct those "handy"
> racoons.
>
> nb
The keychain slide clip is a great idea. It'd require the 'coon to use
both paws and remove it, the hasp, and finally open the lid/door.
Sometimes security is not about preventing access, just making the small
fish look more appealing.
I like the 1x frame idea. A reasonably secure fit on the lid might serve
to keep the bugs out as well. (If the base has a lip, then the lip on
the lid could fit inside it (maybe loose T&G?) while still allowing for
expansion and contraction.)
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
"DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> If these don't have inner tubes I'd get something else. You have to
> keep the pressure up in tubeless tires or one day you discover you
> have a sled rather than a wagon.
>
They do have inner tubes, the hub bolts together and the tube is required
to get an air tight seal. In fact, the HF item page has a link in the
upper corner pointing to a replacement inner tube.
It appears they're the only place around here that carries the 10" tube
with 4" rim, however. I went all over town once looking for a replacement
tube, and didn't find one. Walked in to HF a few days later, and there
they were.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
"Puckdropper" wrote:
> Small critters mainly. (Wild animals does evoke an image of large
> ones.
> Poor word choice on my part.) The racoons have a reputation for
> being
> crafty and figuring out how to get in to things, so I was wondering
> if
> just a regular hasp (or a turning hasp) would work. If I put a lock
> on
> it, then everyone would need a key to get inside, which means the
> trash
> will get stuffed in my garshop anyway.
-----------------------------------------
A couple of hasps complete with a bar thru them held in place with a
carbiner hanging from a string should solve the coon problem.
Yes those little rascals can be inventive<G>.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" wrote
>
> Yes those little rascals can be inventive<G>.
>
I remember, taking the trash out one night, confronting an enormous racoon
sitting on top of one of my garbage cans. He made it very clear that that
was his garbage can and I would get hurt if I got any closer. I made a hasty
retreat.
I came back later and cleaned up the mess. I started putting bungee cords
on all my cans after that.
"Lee Michaels" wrote:
> I remember, taking the trash out one night, confronting an enormous
> racoon sitting on top of one of my garbage cans. He made it very
> clear that that was his garbage can and I would get hurt if I got
> any closer. I made a hasty retreat.
--------------------------
I grew up in the middle of a two acre woods with a ravine running thru
it.
Just threw the garbage in the ravine.
About the only thing the varmits didn't take care of was the cans.
Lew
Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
>
> http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2006599/4473/Trash-Can-Shelter--Plan-N
> o-340.aspx
>
That's the basic idea. A little larger with a space for the bi-weekly
recycling bins.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
On Mar 2, 10:16=A0am, "WW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the tr=
ash
> > cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. =A0We live in an =
area
> > prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. =A0Does any=
one
> > have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to
> > handle
> > year-round?
>
> > My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. =A0I might put wheels =
on it
> > to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>
> > Puckdropper
> > --
> > Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
>
> Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in o=
ur
> deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger r=
ail
> to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 fe=
et
> above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
I like that approach. A couple of caps and an old TV flyback
transformer works nice too.
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the trash
> cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an area
> prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does anyone
> have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to
> handle
> year-round?
>
> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
> to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in our
deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger rail
to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 feet
above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2006599/4473/Trash-Can-Shelter--Plan-No-340.aspx
Puckdropper wrote:
> I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the trash
> cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an area
> prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does anyone
> have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to handle
> year-round?
>
> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
> to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>
> Puckdropper
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 03/02/2010 09:37 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On Mar 2, 10:16 am, "WW"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Puckdropper"<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the
>>>> trash
>>>> cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an
>>>> area
>>>> prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does
>>>> anyone
>>>> have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to
>>>> handle
>>>> year-round?
>>>
>>>> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on
>>>> it
>>>> to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>>>
>>>> Puckdropper
>>>> --
>>>> Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
>>>
>>> Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in
>>> our
>>> deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger
>>> rail
>>> to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15
>>> feet
>>> above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
>>
>> I like that approach. A couple of caps and an old TV flyback
>> transformer works nice too.
>
> I'm gonna sick PETA on you guys. Raccoons have feelings too!
Please Eat The Animals... Is that what PETA stands for??? (grin) WW>
> --
> "Once upon a time, The END."
> To reply, eat the taco.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
On 2010-03-02, Puckdropper <puckdropper> wrote:
> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
> to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
What kinda wild animals? Short of bears, you should have no problems.
A stout wood box with slanted hinged cover w/ clasp lock should keep
the smaller varmints out. All our regular dumpsters have black
plastic hinged tops, so snow accumulation is not a problem. A slick
black paint or roofing material should work.
If you have bears, it's a whole new ballgame. Our disposal company
gave us a couple bear-proof dumpsters after a rash of bear problems,
last Fall. Hell, human beings can barely get into them! They're the
child-proof caps of dumpsters. ;)
nb
definitely put the wheels on it. 'Everyones' Favorite HFT has 10" air
filled tire on sale often. I have got them for $3.99 before. This week
they are $5.99 in my catalog (or weekly e-mail) SKU 30900-0VGA. I use
them on the push carts I make for my kids for the 4TH of July and
playing on the sidewalks. They hold me, so they will hold lots of trash.
Mike in Ohio
Puckdropper wrote:
> I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the trash
> cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an area
> prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does anyone
> have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to handle
> year-round?
>
> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
> to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>
> Puckdropper
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael Kenefick <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> definitely put the wheels on it. 'Everyones' Favorite HFT has 10" air
>> filled tire on sale often. I have got them for $3.99 before. This
>> week they are $5.99 in my catalog (or weekly e-mail) SKU 30900-0VGA.
>> I use them on the push carts I make for my kids for the 4TH of July
>> and playing on the sidewalks. They hold me, so they will hold lots of
>> trash.
>>
>> Mike in Ohio
>
> That sounds like a good starting place. With 3 or 4 of them on there, it
> should be quite easy to pull.
If these don't have inner tubes I'd get something else. You have to keep
the pressure up in tubeless tires or one day you discover you have a sled
rather than a wagon.
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:16:55 -0700, the infamous "WW"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the trash
>> cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an area
>> prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does anyone
>> have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to
>> handle
>> year-round?
>>
>> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
>> to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>> --
>> Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
>
>Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in our
>deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger rail
>to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 feet
>above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
Install motion-sensor-activated lights and camera so you can show us
the fun, please.
--
Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both.
--Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
In article <[email protected]>,
WW <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 03/02/2010 09:37 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>>
>>> [[.. sneck ..]]
>>>
>>> I like that approach. A couple of caps and an old TV flyback
>>> transformer works nice too.
>>
>> I'm gonna sick PETA on you guys. Raccoons have feelings too!
>
>
>Please Eat The Animals... Is that what PETA stands for??? (grin)
Often rendered as "<P>eople <E>ating <T>asty <A>nimals", actually,
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:45:31 -0600, the infamous Roy
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:27:24 -0800, Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in our
>>>deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger rail
>>>to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 feet
>>>above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
>>
>>Install motion-sensor-activated lights and camera so you can show us
>>the fun, please.
>
>
>Lordy I love the attitude in this newsgroup.
>
>Not raccoons, but similar entertainment:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBb7KReY6Eg&NR=1
>squirrel launcher
Yeah, I love that one.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIp7V7VcCX8
>Twirl-a-Squirrel bird feeder attachment
Hey, pretty cool. I saw a few of these and one lady had a ton
of squirrels in her yard. I pity her.
--
An author spends months writing a book, and maybe puts his
heart's blood into it, and then it lies about unread till
the reader has nothing else in the world to do.
-- W. Somerset Maugham, The Razor's Edge, 1943
On 03/02/2010 09:37 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Mar 2, 10:16 am, "WW"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Puckdropper"<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the trash
>>> cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an area
>>> prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does anyone
>>> have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to
>>> handle
>>> year-round?
>>
>>> My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
>>> to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>> --
>>> Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
>>
>> Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in our
>> deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger rail
>> to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 feet
>> above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
>
> I like that approach. A couple of caps and an old TV flyback
> transformer works nice too.
I'm gonna sick PETA on you guys. Raccoons have feelings too!
--
"Once upon a time, The END."
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
"WW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've been thinking about building a trash can storage bin to get the trash
> > cans out of my garshop and outside where they belong. We live in an area
> > prone to heavy snowfalls, with lots of wild animals around. Does anyone
> > have any suggestions on how to build one of these to make it easy to
> > handle
> > year-round?
> >
> > My main concerns are racoons and snow right now. I might put wheels on it
> > to make it easy to take to the end of the driveway.
> >
> > Puckdropper
> > --
> > Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
>
> Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in our
> deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger rail
> to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 feet
> above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
>
>
If your deck railing is metal and well grounded this should work.
Otherwise you will need to provide a ground rail in addition to the hot
rail.
Art
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> They do have inner tubes, the hub bolts together and the tube is required
> to get an air tight seal. In fact, the HF item page has a link in the
> upper corner pointing to a replacement inner tube.
Yeah, I saw the ad for the tubes but I still wanted to suggest making sure
these ones have tubes. I'm good about keeping car tires properly inflated,
but I didn't pay the same attention to my hand-cart and last time we went to
use it the pressure in the tires had become low enough that the tires had
lost their seal on the rims. *Now* there are inner-tubes in those tires.
On 2010-03-02, Puckdropper <puckdropper> wrote:
> just a regular hasp (or a turning hasp) would work. If I put a lock on
> it, then everyone would need a key to get inside....
The bear proof dumpsters use turning hasps PLUS an old-fashion steel keychain
slide clip attached to a chain. A good carbiner type clip might work, too.
http://tinyurl.com/ydtrp3r
http://images.solidcactus.com/autobarn/wilmar-d-clip-keychain.jpg
Another thought. I'm no woodworker, but seems to me putting lengths
of 1"x1" or 1"x2" around the inside edges of the hinged lid would not
only make it stiffer, but would further obstruct those "handy"
racoons.
nb
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:40:33 -0800, the infamous "DGDevin"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> They do have inner tubes, the hub bolts together and the tube is required
>> to get an air tight seal. In fact, the HF item page has a link in the
>> upper corner pointing to a replacement inner tube.
>
>Yeah, I saw the ad for the tubes but I still wanted to suggest making sure
>these ones have tubes. I'm good about keeping car tires properly inflated,
>but I didn't pay the same attention to my hand-cart and last time we went to
>use it the pressure in the tires had become low enough that the tires had
>lost their seal on the rims. *Now* there are inner-tubes in those tires.
Those 10" wheels and tires, with tubes, will be on sale for $3.79 each
between March 12-14 at HF. http://fwd4.me/0Mm page 2.
--
Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both.
--Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:27:24 -0800, Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Last night the raccoons pulled the top off of our bird feeder (it is in our
>>deck rail) pulled out seed and made a mess. I am making a fence charger rail
>>to put on top of present railing to jolt the creatures. The rail is 15 feet
>>above the ground. Happy landing raccoons. ww
>
>Install motion-sensor-activated lights and camera so you can show us
>the fun, please.
Lordy I love the attitude in this newsgroup.
Not raccoons, but similar entertainment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBb7KReY6Eg&NR=1
squirrel launcher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIp7V7VcCX8
Twirl-a-Squirrel bird feeder attachment