I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
volt PC drill/driver went. It had been sounding a little off and I
got a whiff of something burning. Next thing I know, it stops working
altogether (shaft won't turn and torque control just shuts it off).
Anyway, it 1.5 years old and when you pay for a premium product, it
should last, longer than that anyway. I'm going to give PC a call and
see if I can get anything out of them.
Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
#2.
Thanks in advance,
Chuck
I am on my second Ryobi, I replaced the first one 'cause the batteries went
and it was about the same price to upgrade the voltage and get a whole new
one (disposable society). The first one lasted about 3 years of medium to
heavy use, and I've had this one going on 2 years, with no problems. I do
like the magnet in the base to hold loose screws. I would buy Ryobi again.
Think I paid $89 at HD. It's a 19.2
--
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9EW5d.16798$n%[email protected]...
> WoodChuck34 wrote:
> > Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
> > What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
> > and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
>
> I always use these occasions as an opportunity and excuse to upgrade; not
> replace. To that end, when my Dewalt 14.4V cordless drill's batteries
started
> getting weak, I did some reading and ended up with a Milwaukee 18V
cordless
> hammer drill (model 0624-24). I've had no reason since to regret the
purchase.
> Expect to pay about $240 with free shipping if you buy it off the
internet.
>
> The weight, while a little more, isn't enough to make much of a
difference. The
> power sure is: I think it's got enough torque to snatch itself out of my
hand
> if it bound up tight enough. It drills through metal easily and wood like
it
> isn't there. It came with two batteries and a quick charger just like the
> Dewalt. However, it's much more capable than the Dewalt (which I had
thought
> was pretty good).
>
> I will remind you that the old saying about the only time you enjoy a
cheap tool
> is the day you pay for it. Consider that the Gospel.
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
>
>
>
>
"Gregory McGuire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> check out harborfreight.com for cordless rechargable drills.
> I see an 18 volt drill kit that comes with a flashlight under 25 dollars.
> there are all kinds of drills on harborfreight. The stuff I have bought at
> this place is pretty good stuff.
I am nervous about HF power tools, especially battery powered stuff. I have
several times now seen people returning various HF battery powered tools.
one guy i talked to while he was returning a set of HF battery tools said
the drill he got worked for all of two screws and then just quit in the
middle of the third.
OTOH, there are many bargains to be had there, IMHO, but I not so sure their
battery powered tools are one of them. YMMV.
> "WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
>> volt PC drill/driver went. It had been sounding a little off and I
>> got a whiff of something burning. Next thing I know, it stops working
>> altogether (shaft won't turn and torque control just shuts it off).
>>
>> Anyway, it 1.5 years old and when you pay for a premium product, it
>> should last, longer than that anyway. I'm going to give PC a call and
>> see if I can get anything out of them.
>>
>> Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
>> What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
>> and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
>>
>> I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
>> #2.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Chuck
>
>
many battery packs can be rebuilt since they are made up of individual cells
you can buy "off the shelf". batteries just fail after a while and need to
be replaced. its just the way it is.
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:_M96d.16865$n%[email protected]...
> Dan Cullimore wrote:
>> I also have a couple of Craftsman cordless. Both need new batteries.
>> Since the PC packs are the first I've had rebuilt I'll give them a few
>> months before investing in the others.
>
>
>
> That is one of the most annoying things to me: the high cost of batteries
> relative to the cost of the entire drill. The Dewalt that I just replaced
> with a Milwaukee still looks new and would run great if only the batteries
> could hold a decent charge still.
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
> http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
>
check out harborfreight.com for cordless rechargable drills.
I see an 18 volt drill kit that comes with a flashlight under 25 dollars.
there are all kinds of drills on harborfreight. The stuff I have bought at
this place is pretty good stuff.
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
> volt PC drill/driver went. It had been sounding a little off and I
> got a whiff of something burning. Next thing I know, it stops working
> altogether (shaft won't turn and torque control just shuts it off).
>
> Anyway, it 1.5 years old and when you pay for a premium product, it
> should last, longer than that anyway. I'm going to give PC a call and
> see if I can get anything out of them.
>
> Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
> What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
> and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
>
> I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
> #2.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chuck
I have a Dewalt 14.4, little upset at the charger eating one of my
batteries, haven't sprung for the replacement yet $60 keep thinking I like
the Bosch, they clam it can be dropped from 2 stories up on concrete and
not break
tony1158 wrote:
> Hi, I love my Bosch 14.4 Pistol grip.
>
> Tony
>
> www.votepair.org
>
>
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
>> > #2.
>>
>> I have both a Panasonic and DeWalt. For certain the Panasonics have
> better
>> batteries and are much more refined than the DeWalts. If price is not a
>> factor I would go with the Panasonic.
>>
>> I'll add also that I do not recall hearing of anyone ever complaining
> about
>> Panasonic drills. There are plenty of complaints with DeWalt cordless
>> drills, specifically concerning the chucks. I personally have not had a
>> problem with either brand drill.
>>
>>
>
> I have both a Panasonic and DeWalt. For certain the Panasonics have better
> batteries and are much more refined than the DeWalts. If price is not a
> factor I would go with the Panasonic.
>
> I'll add also that I do not recall hearing of anyone ever complaining about
> Panasonic drills. There are plenty of complaints with DeWalt cordless
> drills, specifically concerning the chucks. I personally have not had a
> problem with either brand drill.
Thanks Leon. I have several DeWalt tools and they are all top notch,
but none of them are cordless. Consumer Reports does a nice job of
rating items, but I wasn't sure if they would give the drill a proper
woodworkers test.
I almost pulled the trigger on a Milwaukee over the lunch hour, but
wanted to do some research first. It had reversible batteries so you
could re-position for tight corners; a belt clip and a 5 year
warranty.
My first thought was definitely a DeWalt, but I'll have to check out a
Panasonic. Thanks for your input, I always like to hear from first
hand users.
I'm really dissapointed in the PC though.
Chuck
"Mo Sislac" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> My wife just bought me a craftsman cordless. I know alot of people here dont
> like craftsman, but she got the drill (16.8 volt) two batteries, a 1 hr
> charger and a three year warranty for 90 bucks canadian.
Mo,
I neglected to mention in my first post that my other cordless is a
14.4 v Craftsman that has to be at least 5 years old. Put it through
all the same paces as the PC and its still kicking. Came with a
flashlight too.
The batteries are going though and push the cost of a new drill to
replace.
Dare I say I should give Crapsman the nod over PC?
Chuck
Thanks all for the comments and suggestions. I have a $50 gift
certificate from Father's day that I've been saving for a rainy day
(raining hard today in Hershey, PA BTW). I think based on what more
than a few people have said here I may take a chance on that
Milwaukee. A company that gives a 5 year guaruntee when the rest of
the market is offering 1-2 years must be doing something right.
I'll let you know how I like it.
Chuck
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<_M96d.16865$n%[email protected]>...
> Dan Cullimore wrote:
> > I also have a couple of Craftsman cordless. Both need new batteries.
> > Since the PC packs are the first I've had rebuilt I'll give them a few
> > months before investing in the others.
>
>
>
> That is one of the most annoying things to me: the high cost of batteries
> relative to the cost of the entire drill. The Dewalt that I just replaced with
> a Milwaukee still looks new and would run great if only the batteries could hold
> a decent charge still.
Mortimer,
I know locally there is a store called "Battery Warehouse" that will
rebuild batteries. It costs a fraction of the amount to buy new ones.
Actually if you open the case of a battery, its just a simple role of
what I assume is the actually setup. They simply replace that part.
Give it a try on a battery your going to throw away.
Chuck
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Keep in mind that the 5 year warrantee may only be on the drill and charger.
> The batteries may only be covered under a 1 year warranty and as we all
> know, that is the part that usually poops out first.
Leon,
Just picked up the drill over the lunch hour. You are right the
warranty only covers the drill and charger for 5 years.
http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=27&catalogId=40027&langId=-1&productId=284274&mainHeader=Tools&categoryId=189329&mainCategoryId=362&parentProd=281123
I'll let everyone know how it works after I play with it this weekend.
Thanks again,
Chuck
[email protected] (WoodChuck34) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
> volt PC drill/driver went...
Just as an update. I called PC today to find out if they received my
drill yet. The guy told me that they put a new motor in it and
already shipped it back to me.
They earned back some points on the customer service front, but
there's no way I should have burned out a motor for what I put it
through.
I guess I have an extra cordless now.
By the way, I've used the Milwaukee for a couple of projects now and
I'm very impressed. Great balance and power. We'll see how we do in
the long term.
Chuck
WoodChuck34 wrote:
> Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
> What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
> and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
I always use these occasions as an opportunity and excuse to upgrade; not
replace. To that end, when my Dewalt 14.4V cordless drill's batteries started
getting weak, I did some reading and ended up with a Milwaukee 18V cordless
hammer drill (model 0624-24). I've had no reason since to regret the purchase.
Expect to pay about $240 with free shipping if you buy it off the internet.
The weight, while a little more, isn't enough to make much of a difference. The
power sure is: I think it's got enough torque to snatch itself out of my hand
if it bound up tight enough. It drills through metal easily and wood like it
isn't there. It came with two batteries and a quick charger just like the
Dewalt. However, it's much more capable than the Dewalt (which I had thought
was pretty good).
I will remind you that the old saying about the only time you enjoy a cheap tool
is the day you pay for it. Consider that the Gospel.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
well, 5 years is pretty good, the price is right, and a three year warranty
isn't anything to sneeze at.
I'd say they would get the nod.
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Mo Sislac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > My wife just bought me a craftsman cordless. I know alot of people here
dont
> > like craftsman, but she got the drill (16.8 volt) two batteries, a 1 hr
> > charger and a three year warranty for 90 bucks canadian.
>
>
> Mo,
>
> I neglected to mention in my first post that my other cordless is a
> 14.4 v Craftsman that has to be at least 5 years old. Put it through
> all the same paces as the PC and its still kicking. Came with a
> flashlight too.
>
> The batteries are going though and push the cost of a new drill to
> replace.
>
> Dare I say I should give Crapsman the nod over PC?
>
> Chuck
My wife just bought me a craftsman cordless. I know alot of people here dont
like craftsman, but she got the drill (16.8 volt) two batteries, a 1 hr
charger and a three year warranty for 90 bucks canadian.
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
> volt PC drill/driver went. It had been sounding a little off and I
> got a whiff of something burning. Next thing I know, it stops working
> altogether (shaft won't turn and torque control just shuts it off).
>
> Anyway, it 1.5 years old and when you pay for a premium product, it
> should last, longer than that anyway. I'm going to give PC a call and
> see if I can get anything out of them.
>
> Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
> What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
> and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
>
> I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
> #2.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chuck
If you're installing cabinets, you'll love the new Hitachi 12v cordless
impact driver/drill. It's unbelievable. Lightweight, tons of power, small
enough to fit inside cabinets and even has a little light to help us over 40
find the screwhead in the dark.
A little spendy, but that's what's on my birthday list - and I already own
the PC 19.2 v cordless with tons of torque (and bulk).
Good luck!
kb
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> WoodChuck34 wrote:
> >> [email protected] (WoodChuck34) wrote in message
> >> news:<[email protected]>...
> >>> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
> >>> volt PC drill/driver went...
> >>
> >> Just as an update. I called PC today to find out if they received my
> >> drill yet. The guy told me that they put a new motor in it and
> >> already shipped it back to me.
> >>
> >> They earned back some points on the customer service front, but
> >> there's no way I should have burned out a motor for what I put it
> >> through.
> >>
> >> I guess I have an extra cordless now.
> >>
> >> By the way, I've used the Milwaukee for a couple of projects now and
> >> I'm very impressed. Great balance and power. We'll see how we do in
> >> the long term.
> >>
> >> Chuck
>
> What do you consider an extra cordless? I have two (PC 14.4 v and
> "something" 12 v) with a spare regular plug in for the pocket jig. With
> only one drill I seemed to spend all my time changing bits.
>
> Josie
>
>
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> My first thought was definitely a DeWalt, but I'll have to check out a
> Panasonic. Thanks for your input, I always like to hear from first
> hand users.
> I'm really dissapointed in the PC though.
If you are considering the Milwaukee also, I choose it over the DeWalt.
FWIW my partner bought a PC cordless about 5 years ago. It lasted 1 year
and the drill broke. He went back to Craftsman. Normally I would frown on
going backwards in quality but he does misplace and loose tools.
I finally treated myself to a set of Milwaukee 18v cordless tools including
a new drill. Their stuff is really impressive and I should have done it
sooner. Besides I wanted to buy these tools before they become red Ryobis as
a result of the recent purchase of the Milwaukee line by ryobi parent
company.
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (WoodChuck34) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
>> volt PC drill/driver went...
>
> Just as an update. I called PC today to find out if they received my
> drill yet. The guy told me that they put a new motor in it and
> already shipped it back to me.
>
> They earned back some points on the customer service front, but
> there's no way I should have burned out a motor for what I put it
> through.
>
> I guess I have an extra cordless now.
>
> By the way, I've used the Milwaukee for a couple of projects now and
> I'm very impressed. Great balance and power. We'll see how we do in
> the long term.
>
> Chuck
[email protected] (WoodChuck34) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> ...
> Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
> What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
> and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
>
> I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
> #2.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chuck
I have been impressed with most of my Hitachi tools, both for quality and
value. I have two 14.4V Hitachi's - one with 1/2" chuck and the other
with a 3/8" chuck. The 1/2" chuck unit grips the bits better and has
more torque. The 3/8" chuck unit weighs less and was about 1/2 the
price. Both units came with 2 batteries, quick charger, basic bits and
plastic cases.
Brian
WoodChuck34 wrote:
>> [email protected] (WoodChuck34) wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
>>> volt PC drill/driver went...
>>
>> Just as an update. I called PC today to find out if they received my
>> drill yet. The guy told me that they put a new motor in it and
>> already shipped it back to me.
>>
>> They earned back some points on the customer service front, but
>> there's no way I should have burned out a motor for what I put it
>> through.
>>
>> I guess I have an extra cordless now.
>>
>> By the way, I've used the Milwaukee for a couple of projects now and
>> I'm very impressed. Great balance and power. We'll see how we do in
>> the long term.
>>
>> Chuck
What do you consider an extra cordless? I have two (PC 14.4 v and
"something" 12 v) with a spare regular plug in for the pocket jig. With
only one drill I seemed to spend all my time changing bits.
Josie
Dan Cullimore wrote:
> I also have a couple of Craftsman cordless. Both need new batteries.
> Since the PC packs are the first I've had rebuilt I'll give them a few
> months before investing in the others.
That is one of the most annoying things to me: the high cost of batteries
relative to the cost of the entire drill. The Dewalt that I just replaced with
a Milwaukee still looks new and would run great if only the batteries could hold
a decent charge still.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
[email protected] (WoodChuck34) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Mo Sislac" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > My wife just bought me a craftsman cordless. I know alot of people here dont
> > like craftsman, but she got the drill (16.8 volt) two batteries, a 1 hr
> > charger and a three year warranty for 90 bucks canadian.
>
>
> Mo,
>
> I neglected to mention in my first post that my other cordless is a
> 14.4 v Craftsman that has to be at least 5 years old. Put it through
> all the same paces as the PC and its still kicking. Came with a
> flashlight too.
>
> The batteries are going though and push the cost of a new drill to
> replace.
>
> Dare I say I should give Crapsman the nod over PC?
>
> Chuck
I've had a PC 14.4 for about 5 years. Just had the batteries
rebuilt--two packs of higher capacity batteries for less than $100.
Couple of years after I got the drill it started making a "bad noise"
and then wouldn't turn. Discovered I'd inadvertently bumped the
Forward/Reverse button to the center position--a no-go sitch switch.
;^)
I also have a couple of Craftsman cordless. Both need new batteries.
Since the PC packs are the first I've had rebuilt I'll give them a few
months before investing in the others.
Just my $0.02.
Dan
Hi, I love my Bosch 14.4 Pistol grip.
Tony
www.votepair.org
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
> > #2.
>
> I have both a Panasonic and DeWalt. For certain the Panasonics have
better
> batteries and are much more refined than the DeWalts. If price is not a
> factor I would go with the Panasonic.
>
> I'll add also that I do not recall hearing of anyone ever complaining
about
> Panasonic drills. There are plenty of complaints with DeWalt cordless
> drills, specifically concerning the chucks. I personally have not had a
> problem with either brand drill.
>
>
> I was installing some cabinets in my garage this weekend and my 14.4
> volt PC drill/driver went. It had been sounding a little off and I
> got a whiff of something burning. Next thing I know, it stops working
> altogether (shaft won't turn and torque control just shuts it off).
>
> Anyway, it 1.5 years old and when you pay for a premium product, it
> should last, longer than that anyway. I'm going to give PC a call and
> see if I can get anything out of them.
>
> Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
> What are your suggestions. I'm looking for something that will last
> and has good power. I'm not a pro but am a heavy hobbyist.
>
> I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
> #2.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chuck
Panasonic, Makita, or Porter Cable are my preferences. The chucks (1/2") on
the Makita and Porter Cable drills are very nice. I haven't used the
Panasonic as much, but it has fared extremely well as a 15.6v against 18v
drills in some comparison tests. I think DeWalt is a step down from these
three. I would definitely get the 1/2" chuck if I were you.
Charlie
Richard Clements <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> I have a Dewalt 14.4, little upset at the charger eating one of my
> batteries, haven't sprung for the replacement yet $60 keep thinking I
> like the Bosch, they clam it can be dropped from 2 stories up on
> concrete and not break
>
What happens when you drop it from eye level?
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Turning my attention to the future, I still need a good drill/driver.
Luv my Milwaukee 14.4V.
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I check Consumer Reports and they rank Panasonic as #1 and DeWalt as
> #2.
I have both a Panasonic and DeWalt. For certain the Panasonics have better
batteries and are much more refined than the DeWalts. If price is not a
factor I would go with the Panasonic.
I'll add also that I do not recall hearing of anyone ever complaining about
Panasonic drills. There are plenty of complaints with DeWalt cordless
drills, specifically concerning the chucks. I personally have not had a
problem with either brand drill.
WoodChuck34 wrote:
> I almost pulled the trigger on a Milwaukee over the lunch hour, but
> wanted to do some research first. It had reversible batteries so you
> could re-position for tight corners; a belt clip and a 5 year
> warranty.
I was down at the borg last night and picked up a copy of Taunton's Tool Review
(the folks who publish Fine Woodworking). They rated the Milwaukee 18V hammer
drill best overall last year and didn't pick another over it this year. I knew
I had read it somewhere before I made my purchase; just couldn't remember where.
Fine Woodworking.
After drilling through some cast iron with mine it's made me a believer. A fine
tool and one I enjoy using.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com