I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
accomodate his ministrations.
The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
waiting.
Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
JP
********************
Do I really have a clue?
PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
Tjank ju.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:24:28 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>accomodate his ministrations.
>
>The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>waiting.
>
>Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>
>JP
>********************
>Do I really have a clue?
>
>PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>Tjank ju.
my bosch will do it- but expect to go through a few blades..
I saw a This Old House episode where Norm had to do something like
this. He had the bandsaw on wheels and moved the saw while the wood
was solidly mounted between two supports. He made it look effortless.
Dickm
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:24:28 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>accomodate his ministrations.
>
>The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>waiting.
>
>Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>
>JP
>********************
>Do I really have a clue?
>
>PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>Tjank ju.
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
> rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
> for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
> Tjank ju.
It depends mostly on the correct blade for the job & knowing how fast to
proceed, let the blade do the work with only applied palm pressure or you
will need a few......blades that is....after wards you can have a few. If
the jigsaw has the orbital feature use it to start nibbling into the next
stroke, good luck.
--
© Jon Down ®
http://www.stores.ebay.com/jdpowertoolcanada
what about using a Sawzall for rough cutting?
dave
Jay Pique wrote:
> I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
> bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
> of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
> and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
> the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
> accomodate his ministrations.
>
> The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
> SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
> router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
> some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
> outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
> away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
> waiting.
>
> Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>
> JP
> ********************
> Do I really have a clue?
>
> PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
> rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
> for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
> Tjank ju.
You are welcome, Jay! (If I throw out enough suggestions, sooner or
later, someone, somewhere, will find one of my ideas useful! :) )
dave
Jay Pique wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:16:47 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>what about using a Sawzall for rough cutting?
>
>
> Why didn't I think of that - thanks! That would've been fine, as this
> was just a rough cut to be cleaned up with a router and template.
>
> JP
>
>
>>dave
>>
>>Jay Pique wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>>>bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>>>of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>>>and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>>>the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>>>accomodate his ministrations.
>>>
>>>The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>>>SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>>>router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>>>some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>>>outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>>>away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>>>waiting.
>>>
>>>Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>>>
>>>JP
>>>********************
>>>Do I really have a clue?
>>>
>>>PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>>>rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>>>for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>>>Tjank ju.
>
>
> The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
> SAW!!!!
I have a Bosch (a quality jigsaw), and this is precisely why I want to get a
bandsaw soon. The jig saw will do it, but the blade deflection is
significant when cutting any tighter than a very gentle radius in thick
stock. That is, the cut is not square to the surface of the board. 3/4"
thickness is not too much of a problem, but 1.5" requires alot of cleanup on
the spindle sander.
That's why.
Steve
I would go to the bandsaw first, I would have to have been pretty desperate to
cut very much 2" thick hardwood with a jig saw. The small blade on a jig saw
can't match a bandsaw blade for heat disapation. My guess is that he had some
tuning issues with his saw and didn't recognize or care to correct, otherwise he
should have handled that cut quite easily.
David
In article <[email protected]>, Jay Pique says...
>
>I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>accomodate his ministrations.
>
>The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>waiting.
>
>Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>
>JP
>********************
>Do I really have a clue?
>
>PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>Tjank ju.
Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote in message > >PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
> >rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
> >for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
> >Tjank ju.
>
> Jesus - not a typo in there....may as well crack another Boddingtons I
> guess.
My Festool barrel grip jig saw cuts through laminated Mahogany 1.75"
thick like butter. Have yet to try it on any harder woods at that
thickness, though...
FWIW.
Brian.
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
> and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
> the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
> accomodate his ministrations.
>
You really need new friends.
Ed
Norm was using a 14in Delta to do this, which is not all that big and
heavy. Would NOT want to try this with a 20in heavy machine like the
Laguna or Mini-Max machines - and I sure would NOT want to try it with
anything larger, like my MM24
If something going to be done frequently, then having 2 bandsaws might
be a solution
John
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:58:17 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:35:21 -0600, dicko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I saw a This Old House episode where Norm had to do something like
>>this. He had the bandsaw on wheels and moved the saw while the wood
>>was solidly mounted between two supports. He made it look effortless.
>
>Wow. There's another one I wouldn't have thought of. The concrete
>floor we have is plenty smooth enough, but I'm not sure I'd want to be
>heaving a Laguna LT 20 around even if it did have casters - it's a
>pretty big machine!
>
>JP
>
>
>>Dickm
>>
>>On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:24:28 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>>>bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>>>of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>>>and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>>>the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>>>accomodate his ministrations.
>>>
>>>The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>>>SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>>>router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>>>some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>>>outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>>>away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>>>waiting.
>>>
>>>Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>>>
>>>JP
>>>********************
>>>Do I really have a clue?
>>>
>>>PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>>>rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>>>for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>>>Tjank ju.
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
> bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
a) And you helped this guy out -- why? :)
b) The *ads* for the Festool jigsaw imply that this is a great use of their
tool.
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:11:57 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>> and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>> the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>> accomodate his ministrations.
>>
>
>You really need new friends.
Indeed. I'm glad it wasn't me that hired him.
JP
>Ed
>
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:24:28 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>accomodate his ministrations.
>
>The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>waiting.
>
>Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>
>JP
>********************
>Do I really have a clue?
>
>PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>Tjank ju.
Jesus - not a typo in there....may as well crack another Boddingtons I
guess.
JP
**************************************
Y'aint drunk if ya can still tipe.
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:35:21 -0600, dicko <[email protected]> wrote:
>I saw a This Old House episode where Norm had to do something like
>this. He had the bandsaw on wheels and moved the saw while the wood
>was solidly mounted between two supports. He made it look effortless.
Wow. There's another one I wouldn't have thought of. The concrete
floor we have is plenty smooth enough, but I'm not sure I'd want to be
heaving a Laguna LT 20 around even if it did have casters - it's a
pretty big machine!
JP
>Dickm
>
>On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:24:28 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>>bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>>of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>>and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>>the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>>accomodate his ministrations.
>>
>>The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>>SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>>router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>>some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>>outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>>away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>>waiting.
>>
>>Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>>
>>JP
>>********************
>>Do I really have a clue?
>>
>>PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>>rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>>for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>>Tjank ju.
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:16:47 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>what about using a Sawzall for rough cutting?
Why didn't I think of that - thanks! That would've been fine, as this
was just a rough cut to be cleaned up with a router and template.
JP
>dave
>
>Jay Pique wrote:
>
>> I helped a guy wrestle around an 8 foot piece of 8/4 cherry on a
>> bandsaw this afternoon while he tried to "leave the line" on a couple
>> of simpe radii. He rejected my offer to bring over a roller stand,
>> and then complained that I wasn't holding it level as I tripped over
>> the menagerie of crap in the middle of the floor while trying to
>> accomodate his ministrations.
>>
>> The entire time I was screaming to myself - WHY NOT DO THIS WITH A JIG
>> SAW!!!! The cherry was actually on 7/4 or so, and when I saw the
>> router disaster that ensued when he tried to clean up the mess with
>> some gunky flush cutting bit he tried to "sharpen" by lapping the
>> outside edge of the carbide with a disgusting oil stone, I just walked
>> away and resumed vibrating the previously belt-sanded panels that were
>> waiting.
>>
>> Frustration abounds, as do the libations....
>>
>> JP
>> ********************
>> Do I really have a clue?
>>
>> PS - If I buy a good barrel grip jig saw (Bosch, Milwaukee?), can I
>> rough cut 8/4 cherry, maple and ash? I don't mean laboring over it
>> for 10 minutes - I mean cutting it in a clean and professional manner.
>> Tjank ju.