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DanielMatt

29/05/2008 2:50 PM

Plane anatomy

Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?


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"Jeff Gorman"

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

30/05/2008 7:50 AM


"DanielMatt" <[email protected]> wrote

> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?

The story is that the term was invented by a worker at Stanleys who said
'The plane has a frog in its throat'.
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Fred the Red Shirt

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

30/05/2008 12:35 PM

On May 29, 2:50 pm, DanielMatt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?

If you look at one in profile it resembles the amphibian
with which it shares a name. A ceramic or metal holder
that supports and positions a flower stem in the bottom
of a vase is also called a frog, perhaps for similar reasons.

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c

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

30/05/2008 12:26 AM

On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:15 -0400, DanielMatt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?
>


It's from the French who invented the plane. The original word was
grenuille. The English, after one of their raids into France, stole
the plane for themselves. When the grenuille broke of in the
demonstrator's hand causing a nasty gash he swore 'Damn Frogs' meaning
the French. Everyone in earshot heard 'frog' thinking the broken part
and the name stuck ever since.

Just another history lesson.

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c

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

31/05/2008 9:14 PM


>
>Sure. Except that I seem to recall reading in several places that
>planes go back a bit further than either the French or the English.
>One source had India, IIRC, while another had Greece.

Swingman got it. How come you didn't?

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Charlie Self

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

30/05/2008 10:44 AM

On May 29, 8:26 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:15 -0400, DanielMatt
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?
>
> It's from the French who invented the plane. The original word was
> grenuille. The English, after one of their raids into France, stole
> the plane for themselves. When the grenuille broke of in the
> demonstrator's hand causing a nasty gash he swore 'Damn Frogs' meaning
> the French. Everyone in earshot heard 'frog' thinking the broken part
> and the name stuck ever since.
>
> Just another history lesson.
>
> P

Sure. Except that I seem to recall reading in several places that
planes go back a bit further than either the French or the English.
One source had India, IIRC, while another had Greece.

OG

Old Guy

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

02/06/2008 5:30 PM

There is also a frog that holds a sheathed sword at the wearers side,
on a belt. Don't see how that applies, but it's a possiblity.

http://www.theinnerbailey.com/frogs.htm

Old guy



On May 29, 1:50=A0pm, DanielMatt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?

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DanielMatt

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

29/05/2008 9:52 PM

Awesome :) Thanks, I thought it had something to do with the French.
Honestly, sounds kind of like legend, but reasonable enough to believe :p

Thanks a lot :thumbup:


On 5/29/08 8:26 PM, in article [email protected],
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:15 -0400, DanielMatt
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?
>>
>
>
> It's from the French who invented the plane. The original word was
> grenuille. The English, after one of their raids into France, stole
> the plane for themselves. When the grenuille broke of in the
> demonstrator's hand causing a nasty gash he swore 'Damn Frogs' meaning
> the French. Everyone in earshot heard 'frog' thinking the broken part
> and the name stuck ever since.
>
> Just another history lesson.
>
> P

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

30/05/2008 1:37 PM


"DanielMatt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C464D617.3C84%[email protected]...
> Awesome :) Thanks, I thought it had something to do with the French.
> Honestly, sounds kind of like legend, but reasonable enough to believe :p
>
> Thanks a lot :thumbup:
>
>
> On 5/29/08 8:26 PM, in article [email protected],
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:15 -0400, DanielMatt
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand
plane?
> >>
> >
> >
> > It's from the French who invented the plane. The original word was
> > grenuille. The English, after one of their raids into France, stole
> > the plane for themselves. When the grenuille broke of in the
> > demonstrator's hand causing a nasty gash he swore 'Damn Frogs' meaning
> > the French. Everyone in earshot heard 'frog' thinking the broken part
> > and the name stuck ever since.
> >
> > Just another history lesson.

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IOW, a suspect "history lesson", at best. :)

A "grenouille" in French _is_ a "frog" (and, in particular, connotes a
"green" one, where I grew up in South Louisiana).

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Tom Watson

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

29/05/2008 5:50 PM

On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:15 -0400, DanielMatt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?


My money is on the fact that "fragere' is a latin verb meaning "to
break".



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Tom

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"Curran Copeland"

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

29/05/2008 11:18 PM


"DanielMatt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?
>
My shop teacher said it was because it loked like a frog

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dpb

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

29/05/2008 7:39 PM

DanielMatt wrote:
> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?

I've always assumed it was from the similarity in shape to the frog of a
horse's foot but I couldn't find any reference to that in conjunction w/
the frog of a plane.

frog–noun Zoology.
a triangular mass of elastic, horny substance in the middle of the sole
of the foot of a horse or related animal.
[Origin: 1600–10; cf. earlier frush in same sense

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Mekon

in reply to DanielMatt on 29/05/2008 2:50 PM

30/05/2008 7:50 AM

> Curious if anyone knows why the "frog" is named as such on a hand plane?

I dunno if it has any relation but the scabbard we held our bayonets in
for our SLRs (OZ army Vietnam era) was also called a frog. Strange the
stuff you remember.
Can't forget the stuff you want to forget though. I'm not claiming to
have been there, I wasn't. I missed it by a single draft.

Mekon

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