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"SteveB"

29/11/2005 8:55 PM

router table

Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, and I was wondering what kind of router
table to get. I went to Sears, and they have them for up to $250. I was
surprised that there were so many, and that they went that high in price.

To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a year,
what are some suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Steve


This topic has 21 replies

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 8:46 PM

SteveB said:

>To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a year,
>what are some suggestions?

Steve,

Build your own. it's good practice. Really...

http://www.thevideodoc.com/Images/RouterCabinet1l.jpg

Built from scraps and a Rockler insert and tracks - half price sale.
Got the solid brass knobs for $ .50 on closeout.
The power switch is a homemade unit hidden in the top right drawer.
Pull the knob to turn it on, push it in to turn it off - 20A @125vAC.

http://www.thevideodoc.com/Images/RouterCabinet2l.jpg

http://www.thevideodoc.com/Images/RouterCabinet3l.jpg

http://www.thevideodoc.com/Images/RouterCabinet4l.jpg

http://www.thevideodoc.com/Images/RouterCabinet5l.jpg

There's a removable flex-arm lamp mounted on the fence for close-up
work. The fence adjusts with 1/32" per rev of the rear center knob.
Sliding, removable faces on the fence. Built in dust collection for
cabinet and fence - vents from _either_ side of the cabinet. Storage
drawers for plunge bases, accessories, bits, 'n other such stuff...
Built in collapsible casters, and the top is 1.5" thick MDF,
absolutely flat and level, edge banded and laminated.
20 amp outlet and 10 foot 12 gauge power cord with a cord hook.
Steel handles to roll it around with.

Works Great.

Plans? We don't need no steenkin' plans...
You're looking at 'em. <g>

If I had it to do over again, I would use a Mast-R-Lift and a better
router, instead of the toy-like PC 892. Perhaps someday...


Greg G.

Aa

"Andy"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

29/11/2005 9:46 PM

Build your own. (warning - this gets long- sorry) I didn't get nearly
as fancy as Norm's NYW kit - I started with a chunk of used countertop,
plenty of gorilla glue, MDF and hardboard leftovers for the fence, and
2x4s for the legs. The only things I actually bought were aluminum
miter track, cam levers, a dust port, and a few screws and bolts.
Total cost maybe $20? And it's solid - definitely not the professional
quality you'd get if you paid $250 or more, but it's square and doesn't
vibrate at all. Far better than the little $50 cast aluminum things
from Sears or whatever. My attempt at ASCII art is below (not to
scale), as well as an attempt at written instructions. Hard to explain
in words, but not very complicated - google homemade router table and
you'll get plenty of pictures.
I started by cutting a roughly 20x30" piece of countertop, flipped it
over and routed a round 6" diameter, .25-.5" deep hole for the router
base to sit in, and drilled a 1.5" hole in the middle for the bit to
protrude through. If you want to save some work and have a stiffer
surface, you can get a thick rectangular aluminum or phenolic plate to
set into your own tabletop.
Flipped it back over, and drilled countersunk holes for the screws to
attach the router base to the table top. (In effect, the chunk of
counter became a huge sub-base). Then I routed a "horizontal" groove
for a miter slot in front of the hole. For the fence, I used leftover
hardboard and MDF, with triangle supports, being carefully to glue and
clamp them square. I routed parallel "vertical" slots behind the hole
so bolts could go through the fence base through the countertop, and
got cam levers from Rockler so fence adjustments are easier. Cut a
hole in the fence and attached the dust port behind it - works like a
charm with my shop vac. For the legs, I used 2x4s with diagonal
supports, and more 2x4 chunks such that it clamps into my Workmate. I
waxed the top of the table and front of the fence. I also added
removable face pieces to the fence, with the left-hand piece about
1/32" thicker than the right, so I can use it as a jointer for thin
stock with a straight bit.
Hope this helps, and have fun routing,
Andy

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Dave Balderstone

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 4:55 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Jim
<[email protected]> wrote:

> It is probably in one of the plan packages. That is a very nifty table.

I've seen their demos at the WW show here. It is a very slick table and
system.

Bit pricey for my wallet, though, so I bough the Lee Valley insert and
built a table and fence.

djb

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 6:06 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >You can buy a table insert from any supplier and built the table for under
> >$50.
>
> So we are talking about $184 plus the wood and labor?

I bought an old desk extension for $1, and the Lee Valley insert for
$39.50. $40.50 (Canadian) plus labor. I spent maybe $20 building my
fence.

djb

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 7:54 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Tom H
<[email protected]> wrote:

> The one from the Router Workshop is simply a plywood box with one side open
> and a 3/4" plywood top covered with formica.
>
> Here is a link to pictures of the one I built into the extension on my table
> saw.
> http://www.woodworking.org/photo/thumbnails.php?album=20309
>
> The router plate insert is from Woodpeckers the rest was wood around the
> shop and a piece of white formica.

Here's a bad shot of my $1 table with the LV insert.

<http://www.balderstone.ca/router_table.jpg>

TH

"Tom H"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 12:59 PM

Save yourself some time and money.
I was all ready to build Norm's table when I saw an episode of The Router
Workshop ( http://www.routerworkshop.com/epage.html )
I couldn't believe how simple yet productive this system is.
You can buy a table insert from any supplier and built the table for under
$50.
I am very happy with my set up.


"SteveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Pgajf.52288$qw.2381@fed1read07...
> Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, an I was wondering what kind of router
> table to get. I went to Sears, and they have them for up to $250. I was
> surprised that there were so many, and that they went that high in price.
>
> To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a
> year, what are some suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 5:23 AM

If you are going to buy a table either buy a really good one (I have not
seen a good one at Sears...) or buy a really cheap one. With the cheap one
you can build your own next year and not feel too bad about it.

I bought a Sears table for $80 and sold it a year later (keeping the router
bits that came with it) for $75. That is probably unusual; plan on tossing
it.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 12:03 PM

Andy wrote:
> Build your own. (warning - this gets long- sorry) I didn't get nearly
> as fancy as Norm's NYW kit -

Lots of us have even built our tables in stages.

First comes a top and fence, usually in response to a specific need.
This can be used on top of a Workmate, or hung between tablesaw rails.

Later on, as time permits and you get sick of sweeping up chips, a
better base, shelves, drawers, etc... can be built.

Barry

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

01/12/2005 2:54 AM

The fanciest router tables you will ever see are in home shops. The norm in
commercial shops is a board with a router screwed to it. Two clamps and a
2x4 for a fence.

"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> And it's solid - definitely not the professional
> quality

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 4:13 PM


"Dick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I went to that site but found nothing about building a router table?

If you just want some ideas, you need to follow the oak park link at the
bottom.
http://ca.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?product=RW40002&ref=cdn12.html

TH

"Tom H"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

01/12/2005 12:57 AM

Steve,
J T is correct, You can build the table out of stuff around the shop.

The one from the Router Workshop is simply a plywood box with one side open
and a 3/4" plywood top covered with formica.

Here is a link to pictures of the one I built into the extension on my table
saw.
http://www.woodworking.org/photo/thumbnails.php?album=20309

The router plate insert is from Woodpeckers the rest was wood around the
shop and a piece of white formica.

"SteveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Pgajf.52288$qw.2381@fed1read07...
> Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, and I was wondering what kind of
> router table to get. I went to Sears, and they have them for up to $250.
> I was surprised that there were so many, and that they went that high in
> price.
>
> To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a
> year, what are some suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>

JM

John McCoy

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 9:00 PM

"SteveB" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:Pgajf.52288$qw.2381@fed1read07:

> Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, and I was wondering what kind of
> router table to get. I went to Sears, and they have them for up to
> $250. I was surprised that there were so many, and that they went
> that high in price.
>
> To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a
> year, what are some suggestions?

As everyone else has said, building your own is a better plan.
It's cheaper, and gives you some practice using the router as
you go.

Don't get too hung up on needing a fancy fence, by the way. I've
been using a straight 8/4 board & C-clamps for years; one of these
days I'll get around to building a proper fence.

Bill Hylton's book "Woodworking with the Router" has some good
plans (and is a very good book, besides). Or you could post a
request here to JOAT, asking for some plans.

John

JJ

in reply to John McCoy on 30/11/2005 9:00 PM

30/11/2005 6:00 PM

Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 9:00pm (EST+5) [email protected] (John=A0McCoy)
doth muble:
<snip> Or you could post a request here to JOAT, asking for some plans.

Plans? Don' need no steenkin' plans.
I put my router table together in an hour or so, for probably less
then $2. And, I've been using it for years. Make your own.



JOAT
A rolling stone gathers no moss...unless it's a hobby he does on the
weekends.

Dd

"Dick"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 9:07 PM

I went to that site but found nothing about building a router table?
Dick

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"Tom H" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Save yourself some time and money.
> I was all ready to build Norm's table when I saw an episode of The Router
> Workshop ( http://www.routerworkshop.com/epage.html )
> I couldn't believe how simple yet productive this system is.
> You can buy a table insert from any supplier and built the table for under
> $50.
> I am very happy with my set up.
>
>
> "SteveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Pgajf.52288$qw.2381@fed1read07...
>> Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, an I was wondering what kind of
>> router table to get. I went to Sears, and they have them for up to $250.
>> I was surprised that there were so many, and that they went that high in
>> price.
>>
>> To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a
>> year, what are some suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
>

BB

Bruce Barnett

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 11:17 PM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> writes:

> "Dick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I went to that site but found nothing about building a router table?
>
> If you just want some ideas, you need to follow the oak park link at the
> bottom.
> http://ca.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?product=RW40002&ref=cdn12.html
>
>
I went there, but the cheapest kit was $134

Was this the kit that Tom H says:

>You can buy a table insert from any supplier and built the table for under
>$50.

So we are talking about $184 plus the wood and labor?

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GG

Greg G.

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 10:24 PM

CW said:

>The fanciest router tables you will ever see are in home shops. The norm in
>commercial shops is a board with a router screwed to it. Two clamps and a
>2x4 for a fence.

Yeahbut, Home Shops are usually crammed into some wretched corner of
the house - where mobility, storage and dust collection factors rear
their ugly heads.

But by the same token, I used a 1" thick piece of particle board set
across an opened bench-end vise for quite a while. It worked well
enough to allow me to determine my own personal needs. I don't regret
the decision to build a better table. See my earlier post of DIY
pictures in this thread. I would NOT, however, spend a bunch of money
of a commercial router table - they are usually compromised.

FWIW,

Greg G.

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 9:42 PM


"Dick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I went to that site but found nothing about building a router table?
> Dick
>
It is probably in one of the plan packages. That is a very nifty table.
Jim

WC

W Canaday

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 10:36 PM

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:55:55 -0800, SteveB wrote:

> Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, and I was wondering what kind of
> router table to get. I went to Sears, and they have them for up to $250.
> I was surprised that there were so many, and that they went that high in
> price.
>
> To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a
> year, what are some suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve

If you just want to get up and running, Harbor Freight recently
started carrying a table / router combination.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Category.taf?CategoryID=621&pricetype=

I've seen it in the store. It looka like a very nice table at a decent
price point.

Bill

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

30/11/2005 5:08 AM

SteveB wrote:
> Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, and I was wondering what kind of router
> table to get.

Someplace I still have that die cast Craftsman router table made by a
former customer, Lester Industries, Solon, Ohio.

Screwed around with it for years before I got smart and built the New
Yankee Workshop unit.

Great project, modest skill level required, modest cost involved.

The only change I would make is to use 13 ply Appleply rather than A/C
plywood.

If you decide to build it, have fun.

Lew

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

01/12/2005 2:56 AM

Yes, works great. Just don't buy the table from them. $300.00 for a plywood
box is a little steep.

"Tom H" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Save yourself some time and money.
> I was all ready to build Norm's table when I saw an episode of The Router
> Workshop ( http://www.routerworkshop.com/epage.html )
> I couldn't believe how simple yet productive this system is.
> You can buy a table insert from any supplier and built the table for under
> $50.
> I am very happy with my set up.
>
>
> "SteveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Pgajf.52288$qw.2381@fed1read07...
> > Fairly newbie has Craftsman router, an I was wondering what kind of
router
> > table to get. I went to Sears, and they have them for up to $250. I
was
> > surprised that there were so many, and that they went that high in
price.
> >
> > To do basic starter work, and to buy a table that I won't outgrow in a
> > year, what are some suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Steve
> >
>
>

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "SteveB" on 29/11/2005 8:55 PM

01/12/2005 3:02 AM

Along the same line, a shop that I worked in some years ago had a rather
large router table. It was made from a standard military type metal desk
with a hole cut in it and a router screwed to it. No need to get fancier
than that.

"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:301120051954162591%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Tom H
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The one from the Router Workshop is simply a plywood box with one side
open
> > and a 3/4" plywood top covered with formica.
> >
> > Here is a link to pictures of the one I built into the extension on my
table
> > saw.
> > http://www.woodworking.org/photo/thumbnails.php?album=20309
> >
> > The router plate insert is from Woodpeckers the rest was wood around the
> > shop and a piece of white formica.
>
> Here's a bad shot of my $1 table with the LV insert.
>
> <http://www.balderstone.ca/router_table.jpg>


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