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Puckdropper

25/09/2008 12:35 PM

Dust-bee-gone mask

I'm tired of not being able to see after a few minutes of wearing a mask
and goggles, so I've started looking for something better. Mac davis made
a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone mask,
so I've been looking at that.

I have both glasses and a beard, which is one reason mac's comments
interested me.

Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?

Puckdropper
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Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 5:29 AM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> > http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31226&cat=1,42207
>
> Many of the various face shields I've seen still recommend wearing safety
> glasses underneath. I'm guessing that's to meet ANSI/OSHA standards.
>
> You'd still need the dust mask with the shield, right?

I've got the Lee Valley face shield (link above) and I'd consider it only as
protection from flying projectiles, small and not too big. When using the
router and sometimes with the table saw, swirling saw dust gets in behind
the face shield all too often. Ideally, one would want to use a face mask
that seals against the skin or accompany the face shield with a dust mask
and sealed eye protection of some sort.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

25/09/2008 9:35 PM

Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I wear glasses and the mask works the best of anything
> I currently have.
>
> It is pricey but it can be washed and it does
> seem to stop most fine dust.
>
> I also use a 3M "half mask" which isn't
> too bad, but still annoying for long periods.
>
> If you are using a googles, I would try a full
> face mask for a while to see if you can deal with
> that.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31226&cat=1,42207
>

Many of the various face shields I've seen still recommend wearing safety
glasses underneath. I'm guessing that's to meet ANSI/OSHA standards.

You'd still need the dust mask with the shield, right?

Puckdropper
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Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 1:03 PM

Han <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>>> > http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31226&cat=1,42207
>>>
>>> Many of the various face shields I've seen still recommend wearing
>>> safety glasses underneath. I'm guessing that's to meet ANSI/OSHA
>>> standards.
>>>
>>> You'd still need the dust mask with the shield, right?
>>
>> I've got the Lee Valley face shield (link above) and I'd consider it
>> only as protection from flying projectiles, small and not too big.
>> When using the router and sometimes with the table saw, swirling saw
>> dust gets in behind the face shield all too often. Ideally, one would
>> want to use a face mask that seals against the skin or accompany the
>> face shield with a dust mask and sealed eye protection of some sort.
>>
> I like the Triton positive air pressure space suit head piece, but it
> did cost a lot. Now my glasses stay clear, and my beard too.
>

Thanks for the suggestion, I just looked in to fan powered masks.
They're a little more costly than my level of woodworking would seem to
require.

I might change that opinion when we finally get some of the junk out of
the garage so I can use my Christmas present lathe.

Puckdropper
--
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.

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Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 1:11 PM

Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:35:43 +0000, Puckdropper wrote:
>
>> Mac davis made
>> a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone
>> mask, so I've been looking at that.
>>
>> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?
>>
>
> I don't have a beard, but I do wear glasses. I've got a dust-bee-gone
> that I've been using for 15 years or so. If it fogs your glasses,
> you've got it on wrong (probably too tight).
>
> I know a lot of woodworkers that use one and I've never heard a
> complaint, except about the price. And if I amortize the cost of mine
> over 15 years, that doesn't seem a valid complaint :-).

I came across a few complaints looking through Google Group archives, but
most everything recent has been positive. I'll probably give it a try.

Thanks

Puckdropper
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Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 1:38 PM

"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Puckdropper" wrote
>>
>> I might change that opinion when we finally get some of the junk out of
>> the garage so I can use my Christmas present lathe.
>>
>
> Uhhh....., would that be this Christmas??
>
> Or last Christmas?
>
>
>

Last Christmas... (looks away, ashamedly.)

Puckdropper
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Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 1:40 PM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I like the Triton positive air pressure space suit head piece, but it
>> did cost a lot. Now my glasses stay clear, and my beard too.
>
> How much is "cost a lot"? Got a link to their website? I'm guessing
> that after I find out what they cost, I won't complain near as much
> about my face shield, dust mask and eye protection.
>
>

I've still got the browser up... it'll only take a second to retrieve the
Woodcraft product page.

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5511&mode=details#tabs

Puckdropper
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md

mac davis

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

30/09/2008 7:35 AM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:47:44 GMT, Pat Barber <[email protected]>
wrote:

>That is an excellent description of how most
>folks think and work.

Yep.. and I'm guilty of it, Pat...

Now, if I was doing a lot of router work like you do, I'd try really hard to
wear hearing protection, though..
>
>
>mac davis wrote:
>>
>> For me, the dust-bee-gone and safety glasses are a good compromise, as I will
>> wear them, while my face shield looks down at me from a shelf and my respirator
>> is in a dust-free drawer.. ;-[


mac

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PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

25/09/2008 2:43 PM

I wear glasses and the mask works the best of anything
I currently have.

It is pricey but it can be washed and it does
seem to stop most fine dust.

I also use a 3M "half mask" which isn't
too bad, but still annoying for long periods.

If you are using a googles, I would try a full
face mask for a while to see if you can deal with
that.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31226&cat=1,42207


Puckdropper wrote:
> I'm tired of not being able to see after a few minutes of wearing a mask
> and goggles, so I've started looking for something better. Mac davis made
> a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone mask,
> so I've been looking at that.
>
> I have both glasses and a beard, which is one reason mac's comments
> interested me.
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?
>
> Puckdropper

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 9:07 AM


"Puckdropper" wrote
>
> I might change that opinion when we finally get some of the junk out of
> the garage so I can use my Christmas present lathe.
>

Uhhh....., would that be this Christmas??

Or last Christmas?


ss

spaco

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 5:40 PM

Well, now that you've got me thinking about it, I have a 3M OSHA helmet
that I modified years ago for blowing snow up on an open 60 HP tractor.
I wear glasses and when the wind-driven snow blows my way, my glasses
not only fog up, but get covered in snow.
I didn't have the backpack filter system, so, I added an axial heater
and axial blower to the intake of the thing. In that case, I used 12
volt stuff and plugged it into the cigarette lighter socket on the
tractor. It worked fine.
Now that you point out the issue, I think I could update it to 120
volts, skip the heater and have the problem solved.
----It's the kind of helmet that would be used for sandblasting and
grinding in industrial applications.

Pete Stanaitis
-------------------------

Puckdropper wrote:

> I'm tired of not being able to see after a few minutes of wearing a mask
> and goggles, so I've started looking for something better. Mac davis made
> a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone mask,
> so I've been looking at that.
>
> I have both glasses and a beard, which is one reason mac's comments
> interested me.
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?
>
> Puckdropper

Hn

Han

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 11:08 AM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>> > http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31226&cat=1,42207
>>
>> Many of the various face shields I've seen still recommend wearing
>> safety glasses underneath. I'm guessing that's to meet ANSI/OSHA
>> standards.
>>
>> You'd still need the dust mask with the shield, right?
>
> I've got the Lee Valley face shield (link above) and I'd consider it
> only as protection from flying projectiles, small and not too big.
> When using the router and sometimes with the table saw, swirling saw
> dust gets in behind the face shield all too often. Ideally, one would
> want to use a face mask that seals against the skin or accompany the
> face shield with a dust mask and sealed eye protection of some sort.
>
I like the Triton positive air pressure space suit head piece, but it did
cost a lot. Now my glasses stay clear, and my beard too.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 9:43 AM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5511&mode=details#tabs

Thanks Not as expensive as I thought. I had visions of $2000 or thereabouts.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 9:16 AM


"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I like the Triton positive air pressure space suit head piece, but it did
> cost a lot. Now my glasses stay clear, and my beard too.

How much is "cost a lot"? Got a link to their website? I'm guessing that
after I find out what they cost, I won't complain near as much about my face
shield, dust mask and eye protection.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

25/09/2008 5:52 AM

On Sep 25, 8:35=A0am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> I'm tired of not being able to see after a few minutes of wearing a mask
> and goggles, so I've started looking for something better. =A0Mac davis m=
ade
> a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone mas=
k,
> so I've been looking at that.
>
> I have both glasses and a beard, which is one reason mac's comments
> interested me.
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?
>
Well, a beard can be attractive if trimmed on a regular basis. The
glasses can add to the intellectual look, the round horn-rimmed ones
come to mind. The round wire-framed glasses can look nice with either
a Van Dyke or a goatee.

oh.. a comment about the mask...

The DustBGone is an excellent product, and as a solid surface
fabricator, fast flying flakes and intense dust can be quite a snow-
storm during router operations. The full face aspect is very helpful
although static does build up.. at least in my shop.

md

mac davis

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

26/09/2008 7:50 AM

On 26 Sep 2008 13:03:06 GMT, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>> I like the Triton positive air pressure space suit head piece, but it
>> did cost a lot. Now my glasses stay clear, and my beard too.
>>
>
>Thanks for the suggestion, I just looked in to fan powered masks.
>They're a little more costly than my level of woodworking would seem to
>require.
>
>I might change that opinion when we finally get some of the junk out of
>the garage so I can use my Christmas present lathe.
>
>Puckdropper

If possible, borrow one first.. It's a great setup IF you use it..

My brother bought one but doesn't wear it as much as he used to, mainly for
comfort and "suit up time" restrictions..

We should ALL be wearing ventilated face shields and such, but most of us are
almost as lazy as I am, so we don't..

For me, the dust-bee-gone and safety glasses are a good compromise, as I will
wear them, while my face shield looks down at me from a shelf and my respirator
is in a dust-free drawer.. ;-[


mac

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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

25/09/2008 9:05 AM



"Puckdropper" wrote
> I'm tired of not being able to see after a few minutes of wearing a mask
> and goggles, so I've started looking for something better. Mac davis made
> a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone
> mask,
> so I've been looking at that.
>
> I have both glasses and a beard, which is one reason mac's comments
> interested me.
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?

I've use one, with both beard and shop glasses. Have two, but they're also
washable. Pricey, but worth the price as I'm somewhat allergic to walnut
dust/smoke and it has allowed me to use a lot of walnut.

Thumbs up.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 8/18/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

29/09/2008 2:47 PM

That is an excellent description of how most
folks think and work.


mac davis wrote:
>
> For me, the dust-bee-gone and safety glasses are a good compromise, as I will
> wear them, while my face shield looks down at me from a shelf and my respirator
> is in a dust-free drawer.. ;-[

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

25/09/2008 9:18 AM

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:35:43 +0000, Puckdropper wrote:

> Mac davis made
> a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone mask,
> so I've been looking at that.
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?
>

I don't have a beard, but I do wear glasses. I've got a dust-bee-gone
that I've been using for 15 years or so. If it fogs your glasses, you've
got it on wrong (probably too tight).

I know a lot of woodworkers that use one and I've never heard a complaint,
except about the price. And if I amortize the cost of mine over 15 years,
that doesn't seem a valid complaint :-).

md

mac davis

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/09/2008 12:35 PM

25/09/2008 7:37 AM

On 25 Sep 2008 12:35:43 GMT, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>I'm tired of not being able to see after a few minutes of wearing a mask
>and goggles, so I've started looking for something better. Mac davis made
>a suggestion a short time ago in another thread for the dust-bee-gone mask,
>so I've been looking at that.
>
>I have both glasses and a beard, which is one reason mac's comments
>interested me.
>
>Does anyone have any comments, good, bad or otherwise?
>
>Puckdropper

I really appreciate mine... It's the only mask that I can make myself wear..

Not much good for fine particles, but better than not wearing a mask..

Oh.. besides being (hand) washable, I use it damn in the summer.. Very
refreshing and probably a bit more filtering..

Key thing is to follow their directions..
I know, nobody wants to RTFM, but if you follow your instinct on fitting, it
will be too tight and not seal... MUCH more comfortable a bit loose and at the
angles the instructions show..

The only time it fogged my safety glasses was when I had it too tight and the
mask couldn't seal on my nose..


mac

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