I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
not justify the return.
I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
one, if I have a lathe machine.
I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
welcome?
Thanks
I was wondering when treadmills were going to be mentioned...
If you check at the local physical fitness stores, many times they
have treadmills that are beyond repair or have been traded in that are
headed to the dumpster. Those treadmills contain everything (including
the highly sought after rollers) that you will need to make a very
nice sander.
Enjoy the experience of building your sander, there is nothing like
building your own tools.
TMT
"Nirodac Yar" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<Y9mdd.19981$_u6.18400@edtnps89>...
> Gee's, I keep telling my wife if she doesn't use her tred mill for exercise,
> I"m going to change the running belt to sand paper and make a belt sander
> out of it. It has variable speed, and electronic pitch adjust, and can take
> several hundred pounds of pressure. Top speed I think is about ten miles
> an hour.
> Man what a sander that would make. On the other hand, I could find a used
> one, and save the alimony.
> But all kidding aside, there would be enough parts there for a DRUM sander,
> might be an alternative to starting from scratch.
>
> "BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:01:05 -0400, "Phil" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Your link below is better than what I expected. I knew someone here
> > might be able to gimme a lead. Two nights ago, I was looking longingly
> > at Kingspor's 2002 No.54 catalog a simple 1/3HP, 18" portable drum
> > sander priced at $499 (in 2002). I believe I could fabricate one for
> > less, provided I could find ROLLERS.
> >
> > Before I embark on this project, I would like to figure a way to
> > include a feed roller (above the drum, if I can find one) and that
> > might take a while. I will try to post it in abpw if I ever complete
> > it (possibly before spring).
> >
> > Thanks, I appreciate it very much and I sure others will feel the same
> >
> > >I saw a homebuilt sander on "In the Workshop" with
> > >John Sillaots (Canadian). Here is a link to one company
> > >that sells the plans and parts to built it.
> > >
> > >
> > >http://www.stockroomsupply.com/VSander.asp
> > >
> > >
> > >You can also do a Google search for "V Drum Sander"
> > >and Paul Moore, he is the guy who built the first one.
> > >
> > >Good Luck and post your results!
> > >
> > >--
> > >Phil Davis
> > >247PalmBeachRE.com
> > >
> > >
> >
You can get the parts list for a Grizzly on-line and buy what you want.
However, I looked at this approach and found I would only save about
$400; not worth the effort to build it at that saving.
Len
-----------
BlueDude wrote:
> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
> not justify the return.
>
> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>
> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> welcome?
>
> Thanks
>
>
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:01:05 -0400, "Phil" <[email protected]> wrote:
Your link below is better than what I expected. I knew someone here
might be able to gimme a lead. Two nights ago, I was looking longingly
at Kingspor's 2002 No.54 catalog a simple 1/3HP, 18" portable drum
sander priced at $499 (in 2002). I believe I could fabricate one for
less, provided I could find ROLLERS.
Before I embark on this project, I would like to figure a way to
include a feed roller (above the drum, if I can find one) and that
might take a while. I will try to post it in abpw if I ever complete
it (possibly before spring).
Thanks, I appreciate it very much and I sure others will feel the same
>I saw a homebuilt sander on "In the Workshop" with
>John Sillaots (Canadian). Here is a link to one company
>that sells the plans and parts to built it.
>
>
>http://www.stockroomsupply.com/VSander.asp
>
>
>You can also do a Google search for "V Drum Sander"
>and Paul Moore, he is the guy who built the first one.
>
>Good Luck and post your results!
>
>--
>Phil Davis
>247PalmBeachRE.com
>
>
Greetings and salutations....
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:54:55 GMT, [email protected] (BlueDude)
wrote:
>
>I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
>not justify the return.
>
>I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
>important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
>source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
>equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
>one, if I have a lathe machine.
>
>I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
>Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
>welcome?
>
>Thanks
>
>
Great minds think alike, I suppose. I am just finishing
welding up the frame for a 36" double drum sander, and, with any luck,
later this week will get the metal to build the support table.
now...as for the drum...I would suggest the simplest thing
to do is get an appropriate length of 6" diameter TUBING (not pipe),
and, a couple of 6" squares of 1/2" steel. Then, find someone
local who OWNS a metal working lathe, and, pay them a few bucks to
machine the ends of the tube square, and, to machine a couple
of hubs that fit tightly into the ends of the tube. Have him
cut a couple of 1" holes for the axle too, while he is at it.
Ebay is a good source for pillow blocks to hold the axles for
not too much cash.
Regards
Dave Mundt
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:52:08 GMT, "Nirodac Yar" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Really good one. If you modify it to a belt sander, you might have to
sleep in the garage :-)
Everyweek, I look for hand and power tools in estate sales.
90% of the time I come across wheelchairs and treadmills, I will now
add threadmill to my list of items to buy. Thanks.
>Gee's, I keep telling my wife if she doesn't use her tred mill for exercise,
>I"m going to change the running belt to sand paper and make a belt sander
>out of it. It has variable speed, and electronic pitch adjust, and can take
>several hundred pounds of pressure. Top speed I think is about ten miles
>an hour.
>Man what a sander that would make. On the other hand, I could find a used
>one, and save the alimony.
>But all kidding aside, there would be enough parts there for a DRUM sander,
>might be an alternative to starting from scratch.
>
>"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:01:05 -0400, "Phil" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Your link below is better than what I expected. I knew someone here
>> might be able to gimme a lead. Two nights ago, I was looking longingly
>> at Kingspor's 2002 No.54 catalog a simple 1/3HP, 18" portable drum
>> sander priced at $499 (in 2002). I believe I could fabricate one for
>> less, provided I could find ROLLERS.
>>
>> Before I embark on this project, I would like to figure a way to
>> include a feed roller (above the drum, if I can find one) and that
>> might take a while. I will try to post it in abpw if I ever complete
>> it (possibly before spring).
>>
>> Thanks, I appreciate it very much and I sure others will feel the same
>>
>> >I saw a homebuilt sander on "In the Workshop" with
>> >John Sillaots (Canadian). Here is a link to one company
>> >that sells the plans and parts to built it.
>> >
>> >
>> >http://www.stockroomsupply.com/VSander.asp
>> >
>> >
>> >You can also do a Google search for "V Drum Sander"
>> >and Paul Moore, he is the guy who built the first one.
>> >
>> >Good Luck and post your results!
>> >
>> >--
>> >Phil Davis
>> >247PalmBeachRE.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:03:14 -0700, Leonard Lopez <[email protected]>
wrote:
That was part of my plan, as you said it would be far better to buy a
new one. Thanks
>You can get the parts list for a Grizzly on-line and buy what you want.
> However, I looked at this approach and found I would only save about
>$400; not worth the effort to build it at that saving.
>
>Len
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:31:38 -0400, "gw" <[email protected]> wrote:
The drum roller is more important, pressure roller can be the add-on
if I can find a suitable one. (Found this site for rubber rollers
http://www.rubber-rolls.com/)
I have seen DIY using wood or pipe, but would prefer a metal roller. I
wish I have a metal lathe. A good used Logan or similar lathe would
cost about $1,400, adding tooling will exceed 3K. Might as well buy a
16/32 drum sanders and save me all the hassle.
I still believe someone out here in the past may have have attempted
to make one or have knowledge of sourcing rollers.
Thanks for your suggestion, I'll be lurking and wait for more
suggestions.
>Hmmm, I office machines in my other life. Copier pressure rollers would fit
>the bill for your feed rollers - I've seen them in diameters from 1" - 3",
>lengths to 24" on wide-format machines. Many are even geared for chain
>drive.
>
>The other thing that just came to mind is typewriter platens. Old IBM's were
>17.5" IIRC. (just the rubber part).
>
>"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
>> not justify the return.
>>
>> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
>> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
>> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
>> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
>> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>>
>> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
>> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
>> welcome?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 00:33:14 -0500, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You could buy a bar of cold-rolled 1018 steel and jut cut it to length
>with a bandsaw. Cold-rolled is important here, though- hot-rolled
>needs to be turned to be truly straight, but cold-rolled should be
>ready to go. If you're really pressed, it could even be cut with a
>hacksaw- though I wouldn't envy anyone that chore!
Have spent a greater part of my life in and running a machine shop I
could easily handle most machine tools, multi spindles, CNC including
balancing machine, I would prefer to turn the rollers myself from a
hollow bar. Buying rollers off the shelve would reduce the problem of
vibration.
>Have you looked at taking apart a couple of those little outfeed
>rollers?
Outfeed rollers cannot mechanize the feed.
Thanks
>
>>Thanks for your suggestion, I'll be lurking and wait for more
>>suggestions.
>>
>>
>>>Hmmm, I office machines in my other life. Copier pressure rollers would fit
>>>the bill for your feed rollers - I've seen them in diameters from 1" - 3",
>>>lengths to 24" on wide-format machines. Many are even geared for chain
>>>drive.
>>>
>>>The other thing that just came to mind is typewriter platens. Old IBM's were
>>>17.5" IIRC. (just the rubber part).
>>>
>>>"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
>>>> not justify the return.
>>>>
>>>> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
>>>> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
>>>> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
>>>> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
>>>> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
>>>> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
>>>> welcome?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Greetings and salutations...
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you...
the past few days have been a tad too complicated
for me...hardware problems at a big client, and
scheduling difficulties.
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:47:46 GMT, [email protected] (BlueDude)
wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:18:04 GMT, [email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote:
>
>Greeting Dave -:)
>
>> Greetings and salutations....
>
>> Great minds think alike, I suppose. I am just finishing
>
>I feel embarrass by your kind words, but necessity and budget
>constrain rather great mind force me to DIY.
>
Yea...I can relate to that, too. It is kind of scary
how easy it is to get rid of a big chunk of cash on almost anything
these days. For example..I am getting stronger as I age. When I
was 18, I had to make three trips to carry $100 worth of groceries
into the house. Now that I am 50, I can do it with one hand *smile*.
>I'm very interested in your WIP, can you post it in abpw? In would be
>easier to locate a machine shop, than to finding someone OWNS a lathe
>here.
>
I will take some pictures this week, both of the sketches (If
I can find them) and the bits of frame I have gotten done, and get
them posted.
Another good way of creating the drums for this puppy would
be to cut rings out of plywood, glue them up into a cylinder, and
then sand them into "perfection" when the drum is mounted on the
sander itself. That way, you don't need a lathe, and, by mounting
a chunk of angle iron as a guide, can get a VERY good surface.
My suggestion would be to cut solid disks, with a hole for
the axle and set them about every foot through the cylinder. The
rings could either be cut out as is, or built up out of segments.
The latter way would allow a person to get a LOT of segments out
of a single sheet of plywood. If you make the rings 12" in diameter
and about 1.5" thick, split into four segments, I believe you could
get most of the pieces you need for them out of one 4x8 sheet of
plywood. At most...1 1/2 sheets would be enough for all the drum
parts. Of course, a smaller drum would use less material...
I hope the above is clearer than mud *smile*...
>Thanks, you are very helpful and I appreciate it.
>
Knowledge is power, and I *do* believe in powersharing!
Speaking of which...There was a guy on Ebay selling a
38" drum sander (for more than *I* could afford, alas) and
he is apparently open to the idea of selling parts, so that might
work out.
Regards
Dave Mundt
>>welding up the frame for a 36" double drum sander, and, with any luck,
>>later this week will get the metal to build the support table.
>> now...as for the drum...I would suggest the simplest thing
>>to do is get an appropriate length of 6" diameter TUBING (not pipe),
>>and, a couple of 6" squares of 1/2" steel. Then, find someone
>>local who OWNS a metal working lathe, and, pay them a few bucks to
>>machine the ends of the tube square, and, to machine a couple
>>of hubs that fit tightly into the ends of the tube. Have him
>>cut a couple of 1" holes for the axle too, while he is at it.
>> Ebay is a good source for pillow blocks to hold the axles for
>>not too much cash.
>> Regards
>> Dave Mundt
>>
>
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:29:48 GMT, [email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote:
> Yea...I can relate to that, too. It is kind of scary
>how easy it is to get rid of a big chunk of cash on almost anything
>these days. For example..I am getting stronger as I age. When I
>was 18, I had to make three trips to carry $100 worth of groceries
>into the house. Now that I am 50, I can do it with one hand *smile*.
Still remember for $10 or so weekly groceries last more than a week
for a struggling freshman's whose only interests were works, study,
Lawrence Welk, Mitch Miller, Walter Cronkite, Star Track and so on...
that were the good old days sorely missed.
> I will take some pictures this week, both of the sketches (If
>I can find them) and the bits of frame I have gotten done, and get
>them posted.
Will be watching for your posts (please don't rush). Been rethinking
the whole project again. I am absolutely certain something will go
wrong, ended up spending more and getting less. Yes, I saw that 30"
drum you mentioned in Ebay on Friday night, too big for my need. I am
exeemly reluction using wooden roller, I like someting more solid. I
was in Amazon, again reconsidering Performax 22-44 22"- 44" (drum
only) for $379.99 (free shipping).
What do you think if I install the Performax's drum sander upside down
below with belt/pulley/motor in a roll away cabinet? On top a 1/4"
cutaway section metal plate (chrome, if it's not too expensive) for my
projects to slid it on top drum? If that works properly, I could
improvise an adjustable pressure feed roller on top
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000225QL/qid=1098637324/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0965482-8479963?v=glance&s=hi
Thank you again, and I enjoy reading your posts plus the many helpful
suggestions. I understand you perfectly and I only wish I could write
half as good as you :-).
> Another good way of creating the drums for this puppy would
>be to cut rings out of plywood, glue them up into a cylinder, and
>then sand them into "perfection" when the drum is mounted on the
>sander itself. That way, you don't need a lathe, and, by mounting
>a chunk of angle iron as a guide, can get a VERY good surface.
> My suggestion would be to cut solid disks, with a hole for
>the axle and set them about every foot through the cylinder. The
>rings could either be cut out as is, or built up out of segments.
>The latter way would allow a person to get a LOT of segments out
>of a single sheet of plywood. If you make the rings 12" in diameter
>and about 1.5" thick, split into four segments, I believe you could
>get most of the pieces you need for them out of one 4x8 sheet of
>plywood. At most...1 1/2 sheets would be enough for all the drum
>parts. Of course, a smaller drum would use less material...
> I hope the above is clearer than mud *smile*...
>
>>Thanks, you are very helpful and I appreciate it.
>>
> Knowledge is power, and I *do* believe in powersharing!
> Speaking of which...There was a guy on Ebay selling a
>38" drum sander (for more than *I* could afford, alas) and
>he is apparently open to the idea of selling parts, so that might
>work out.
> Regards
> Dave Mundt
>
>>>welding up the frame for a 36" double drum sander, and, with any luck,
>>>later this week will get the metal to build the support table.
>>> now...as for the drum...I would suggest the simplest thing
>>>to do is get an appropriate length of 6" diameter TUBING (not pipe),
>>>and, a couple of 6" squares of 1/2" steel. Then, find someone
>>>local who OWNS a metal working lathe, and, pay them a few bucks to
>>>machine the ends of the tube square, and, to machine a couple
>>>of hubs that fit tightly into the ends of the tube. Have him
>>>cut a couple of 1" holes for the axle too, while he is at it.
>>> Ebay is a good source for pillow blocks to hold the axles for
>>>not too much cash.
>>> Regards
>>> Dave Mundt
>>>
>>
>
On 20 Oct 2004 08:14:49 -0700, [email protected]
(Too_Many_Tools) wrote:
I was at a Church rummage sales today, came across two monster
treadmills, immediately gave up this option. Maybe I should go back
and take a second look?
Thanks
>I was wondering when treadmills were going to be mentioned...
>
>If you check at the local physical fitness stores, many times they
>have treadmills that are beyond repair or have been traded in that are
>headed to the dumpster. Those treadmills contain everything (including
>the highly sought after rollers) that you will need to make a very
>nice sander.
>
>Enjoy the experience of building your sander, there is nothing like
>building your own tools.
>
>TMT
>
>
>
>"Nirodac Yar" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<Y9mdd.19981$_u6.18400@edtnps89>...
>> Gee's, I keep telling my wife if she doesn't use her tred mill for exercise,
>> I"m going to change the running belt to sand paper and make a belt sander
>> out of it. It has variable speed, and electronic pitch adjust, and can take
>> several hundred pounds of pressure. Top speed I think is about ten miles
>> an hour.
>> Man what a sander that would make. On the other hand, I could find a used
>> one, and save the alimony.
>> But all kidding aside, there would be enough parts there for a DRUM sander,
>> might be an alternative to starting from scratch.
>>
>> "BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:01:05 -0400, "Phil" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Your link below is better than what I expected. I knew someone here
>> > might be able to gimme a lead. Two nights ago, I was looking longingly
>> > at Kingspor's 2002 No.54 catalog a simple 1/3HP, 18" portable drum
>> > sander priced at $499 (in 2002). I believe I could fabricate one for
>> > less, provided I could find ROLLERS.
>> >
>> > Before I embark on this project, I would like to figure a way to
>> > include a feed roller (above the drum, if I can find one) and that
>> > might take a while. I will try to post it in abpw if I ever complete
>> > it (possibly before spring).
>> >
>> > Thanks, I appreciate it very much and I sure others will feel the same
>> >
>> > >I saw a homebuilt sander on "In the Workshop" with
>> > >John Sillaots (Canadian). Here is a link to one company
>> > >that sells the plans and parts to built it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >http://www.stockroomsupply.com/VSander.asp
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >You can also do a Google search for "V Drum Sander"
>> > >and Paul Moore, he is the guy who built the first one.
>> > >
>> > >Good Luck and post your results!
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >Phil Davis
>> > >247PalmBeachRE.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:18:04 GMT, [email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote:
Greeting Dave -:)
> Greetings and salutations....
> Great minds think alike, I suppose. I am just finishing
I feel embarrass by your kind words, but necessity and budget
constrain rather great mind force me to DIY.
I'm very interested in your WIP, can you post it in abpw? In would be
easier to locate a machine shop, than to finding someone OWNS a lathe
here.
Thanks, you are very helpful and I appreciate it.
>welding up the frame for a 36" double drum sander, and, with any luck,
>later this week will get the metal to build the support table.
> now...as for the drum...I would suggest the simplest thing
>to do is get an appropriate length of 6" diameter TUBING (not pipe),
>and, a couple of 6" squares of 1/2" steel. Then, find someone
>local who OWNS a metal working lathe, and, pay them a few bucks to
>machine the ends of the tube square, and, to machine a couple
>of hubs that fit tightly into the ends of the tube. Have him
>cut a couple of 1" holes for the axle too, while he is at it.
> Ebay is a good source for pillow blocks to hold the axles for
>not too much cash.
> Regards
> Dave Mundt
>
On 20 Oct 2004 15:36:10 -0700, [email protected] (Phil Crow)
wrote:
Thanks, the sites "The page cannot be found"
>http://www.naut-res-guild.org/services/shopnotes/sander/sander.html
>
>One of the old bookmarks. I'm not sure the link still works, but it may help.
>
>Hope it helps,
>-Phil Crow
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:22:52 GMT, [email protected] (BlueDude)
wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:31:38 -0400, "gw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>The drum roller is more important, pressure roller can be the add-on
>if I can find a suitable one. (Found this site for rubber rollers
>http://www.rubber-rolls.com/)
Short of some machine shop capabilities I cant offer any real
suggestions to the delimma. Rollers of the type you need are hard to
find and pretty expensive.
You may be able to save yourself a little tho. If I have the correct
slant on what you want to do, you plan to use some kind of 'conveyor'
belt to carry the stock under the drum, and pressure rollors on top to
hold it down.
IME you dont need the pressure rollers. I don't know if the open-side
drum rollers use them or not but even a large 50" Timesaver sander
uses only the conveyor and no down pressure. The stock just feeds
direct into the drum. (wide belt type)
My own sander is a manual feed with no pressure rollers. It works
fine and the only (minor) problem is varying depth of cut if I dont
get the speed just right. This can be evened out with multiple passes
at the same depth.
I just finished gathering all the parts (rollers, sprockets, chain,
gearmotor (DC, variable speed) to add a power feed. In my case the
table will remain flat and well waxed, and the feed rollers will bear
on the top of the stock. I'm fortunate enough to have a friend who
fabricated the rollers from 2" (actually 1.9") pipe, I found the
polyurethane cover at McMaster-Carr (approx $50 for a five foot
length).
Offered in the hope that something here will benefit you.
LP
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:22:52 GMT, [email protected] (BlueDude)
wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:31:38 -0400, "gw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>The drum roller is more important, pressure roller can be the add-on
>if I can find a suitable one. (Found this site for rubber rollers
>http://www.rubber-rolls.com/)
>
>I have seen DIY using wood or pipe, but would prefer a metal roller. I
>wish I have a metal lathe. A good used Logan or similar lathe would
>cost about $1,400, adding tooling will exceed 3K. Might as well buy a
>16/32 drum sanders and save me all the hassle.
You could buy a bar of cold-rolled 1018 steel and jut cut it to length
with a bandsaw. Cold-rolled is important here, though- hot-rolled
needs to be turned to be truly straight, but cold-rolled should be
ready to go. If you're really pressed, it could even be cut with a
hacksaw- though I wouldn't envy anyone that chore!
>I still believe someone out here in the past may have have attempted
>to make one or have knowledge of sourcing rollers.
Have you looked at taking apart a couple of those little outfeed
rollers?
>Thanks for your suggestion, I'll be lurking and wait for more
>suggestions.
>
>
>>Hmmm, I office machines in my other life. Copier pressure rollers would fit
>>the bill for your feed rollers - I've seen them in diameters from 1" - 3",
>>lengths to 24" on wide-format machines. Many are even geared for chain
>>drive.
>>
>>The other thing that just came to mind is typewriter platens. Old IBM's were
>>17.5" IIRC. (just the rubber part).
>>
>>"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
>>> not justify the return.
>>>
>>> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
>>> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
>>> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
>>> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
>>> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>>>
>>> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
>>> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
>>> welcome?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Hmmm, I office machines in my other life. Copier pressure rollers would fit
the bill for your feed rollers - I've seen them in diameters from 1" - 3",
lengths to 24" on wide-format machines. Many are even geared for chain
drive.
The other thing that just came to mind is typewriter platens. Old IBM's were
17.5" IIRC. (just the rubber part).
"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
> not justify the return.
>
> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>
> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> welcome?
>
> Thanks
>
>
"gw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hmmm, I office machines in my other life.
Dang it, That was supposed to be: I *repair* office machines.
>
> The other thing that just came to mind is typewriter platens. Old IBM's
were
> 17.5" IIRC. (just the rubber part).
>
> "BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
> > not justify the return.
> >
> > I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
> > important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
> > source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
> > equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
> > one, if I have a lathe machine.
> >
> > I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> > Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> > welcome?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
>
[email protected] (BlueDude) wrote in news:41754eb7.2031016
@news.individual.net:
> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> welcome?
>
Go garage saling and pick up an unwanted treadmill. Lots of parts there,
motors, controls and roller. They are always real cheap!
Gee's, I keep telling my wife if she doesn't use her tred mill for exercise,
I"m going to change the running belt to sand paper and make a belt sander
out of it. It has variable speed, and electronic pitch adjust, and can take
several hundred pounds of pressure. Top speed I think is about ten miles
an hour.
Man what a sander that would make. On the other hand, I could find a used
one, and save the alimony.
But all kidding aside, there would be enough parts there for a DRUM sander,
might be an alternative to starting from scratch.
"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:01:05 -0400, "Phil" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Your link below is better than what I expected. I knew someone here
> might be able to gimme a lead. Two nights ago, I was looking longingly
> at Kingspor's 2002 No.54 catalog a simple 1/3HP, 18" portable drum
> sander priced at $499 (in 2002). I believe I could fabricate one for
> less, provided I could find ROLLERS.
>
> Before I embark on this project, I would like to figure a way to
> include a feed roller (above the drum, if I can find one) and that
> might take a while. I will try to post it in abpw if I ever complete
> it (possibly before spring).
>
> Thanks, I appreciate it very much and I sure others will feel the same
>
> >I saw a homebuilt sander on "In the Workshop" with
> >John Sillaots (Canadian). Here is a link to one company
> >that sells the plans and parts to built it.
> >
> >
> >http://www.stockroomsupply.com/VSander.asp
> >
> >
> >You can also do a Google search for "V Drum Sander"
> >and Paul Moore, he is the guy who built the first one.
> >
> >Good Luck and post your results!
> >
> >--
> >Phil Davis
> >247PalmBeachRE.com
> >
> >
>
Aluminum (mayber even PVC?) bicycle rollers might do the trick. Here's
a kit of three:
http://www.bikeparts.com/search_results.asp?ID=KT1600
Here are some less expensive aluminum and pvc kits (near bottom of
page):
http://www.branfordbike.com/trainer/train8.html
If you could find a used set of rollers, you might be in business.
Here's a less expensive full set, with frame:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=19548
-Mike
[email protected] (BlueDude) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
> not justify the return.
>
> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>
> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> welcome?
>
> Thanks
"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
> not justify the return.
>
> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>
> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> welcome?
>
> Thanks
>
>
I saw a homebuilt sander on "In the Workshop" with
John Sillaots (Canadian). Here is a link to one company
that sells the plans and parts to built it.
http://www.stockroomsupply.com/VSander.asp
You can also do a Google search for "V Drum Sander"
and Paul Moore, he is the guy who built the first one.
Good Luck and post your results!
--
Phil Davis
247PalmBeachRE.com
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:54:55 GMT, [email protected] (BlueDude)
wrote:
>
>I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
>not justify the return.
>
>I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
>important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
>source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
>equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
>one, if I have a lathe machine.
I'm not familar enough with the machines to know exactly which roller
is which, but have you considered using rubber wheels instead of
rollers? I've seen wheels used as feeders before, and they seem to
work all right, provided they are lined up correctly.
>I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
>Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
>welcome?
>
>Thanks
>
[email protected] (BlueDude) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
> not justify the return.
>
> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>
> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> welcome?
>
> Thanks
http://www.naut-res-guild.org/services/shopnotes/sander/sander.html
One of the old bookmarks. I'm not sure the link still works, but it may help.
Hope it helps,
-Phil Crow
Long shot, but have you tried printing supply houses?
They may have, or give you a source on old machinery parts
"BlueDude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I have been dreaming of owning a drum sander. However, the cost does
> not justify the return.
>
> I have a fairly good idea how I'm going to make it, but the most
> important parts, the belt roller and pressure rollers are difficult to
> source. I need a roller approx. 16" to 24" long for the belt and an
> equal length rubber encases pressure/feed rollers. I could fabricate
> one, if I have a lathe machine.
>
> I am wondering anyone knows such parts are available? I have search
> Google and there seem none available. Any other suggestion most
> welcome?
>
> Thanks
>
>