Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
system.
I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
I have a basement shop. I Recently got some new tools and a Delta Dust
Collector ($150) was on the list. I have a Craftsman hybrid table saw, a
jointer, router table, and a couple other dust makers. The collector does
an adequate job of keeping the dust at bay and it comes with a mobile base
so I just move it to the tool I'm using at the time. Harbor freight has a
dust collector that packs more power and gets decent reviews... it just
doesn't have the brand reputation Delta has so that'd be worth a look if you
decide to get one.
It was heck getting the TS into the basement. It went down in 4 major
pieces and was still trouble for me, a buddy, and a furniture dolly. I only
made, one hole in the drywall, so I still consider it a success. :-) I
would have loved to have a walkout right about that time. I planned on
putting it on a mobile base, but haven't yet needed to. Since the entire
basement is unfinished I have enough room for now to keep everything
relatively spaced out.
"Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
> have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
> table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
> upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
> currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
> system.
>
> I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
> contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
> I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
>
>
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:09:03 GMT, the inscrutable "Mike W."
<[email protected]> spake:
>I forgot to mention....
>
>Since adding the DC, my biggest house polluter is the 'chalking' of the
>concrete. I can clean the basement, mop it, and wipe my finger across the
>floor and get nothing on my finger. But in a few weeks time, there is a
>layer of grey concrete dust everywhere again. I suppose that putting a
>floor paint on would do the trick, but I haven't gotten to it yet. But that
>may be something you can do if you are moving into an unfinished space.
I did mine in thirds. There was enough room to stack everything so I
got some floor space while I put down two coats of porch/floor paint.
I let it dry for a day, put down the second coat, let it dry for 18
hours, then moved things until I got another area ready for paint.
It's pure white, like the walls and ceiling. I love it, and it mops
easily. The five dual-4' fluors seem to put out twice their actual
lumens with all that white to reflect it.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Buck Turgidson <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
>have to use a table saw in their basement?
Basement?? I don't _have_ a basement. *OR a garage.
The Delta contractor saw lives in the back bedroom of my 4th floor condo.
Space is so tight that I have to turn the saw, depending on whether I'm
doing cross-cutting or ripping. And I'm limited to stock no more than
about 6', either way. <wry grin>
Still, it's amazing what you can do, with a little determination.
> Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
> have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
> table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
> upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
> currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
> system.
I used to have a garage but still put the TS in the basement. It's way too
cold around here to use the garage for woodworking at least half of the
year. Now I don't have a garage, and of course the TS is the basement. We
have more dust problems from aging carpets and a cat than we do from
woodworking. But I don't do a lot of power sanding so you might have a
different experience.
> I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
> contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
I have four retractable wheels on my saw for flexibility in the tight space.
Don't worry about getting it in and out; you only have to do this once, or
twice if you decide to move. Those extension wings come off so you'll have
no problem fitting through a standard interior doorway.
- Owen -
Buck Turgidson wrote:
>
> Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
> have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
> table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
> upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
> currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
> system.
>
> I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
> contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
> I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
There must be millions using basement workshops, many even w/o walkout
access. In the one location I had such a location I was able to
partition off roughly 1/4 of the house and include the exterior door in
the shop area w/ another interior door to the finished area of the
basement. That gave me the one end of the house full width for a long
wall against which to set jointer. At that time I was using RAS which
was set in a long table against the long wall. The arrangement worked
very nicely except for the low ceiling being a problem occasionally.
Good idea. Did the fumes take over the house during/after painting?
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:09:03 GMT, the inscrutable "Mike W."
> <[email protected]> spake:
>
>>I forgot to mention....
>>
>>Since adding the DC, my biggest house polluter is the 'chalking' of the
>>concrete. I can clean the basement, mop it, and wipe my finger across the
>>floor and get nothing on my finger. But in a few weeks time, there is a
>>layer of grey concrete dust everywhere again. I suppose that putting a
>>floor paint on would do the trick, but I haven't gotten to it yet. But
>>that
>>may be something you can do if you are moving into an unfinished space.
>
> I did mine in thirds. There was enough room to stack everything so I
> got some floor space while I put down two coats of porch/floor paint.
> I let it dry for a day, put down the second coat, let it dry for 18
> hours, then moved things until I got another area ready for paint.
> It's pure white, like the walls and ceiling. I love it, and it mops
> easily. The five dual-4' fluors seem to put out twice their actual
> lumens with all that white to reflect it.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Friends don't let friends read "Wired"
> http://www.diversify.com Wondrous Website Design
> =============================================
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:07:37 -0400, "Buck Turgidson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
>have to use a table saw in their basement?
My entire shop, including a General 650, DJ-20, benches, dust
collection, etc... is in a basement. What's the big deal?
Barry
I have a basement workshop. I use a Craftsman TS on a homebuilt mobile
stand, hooked up to a DC. Even with dust collection I get a thin layer
of dust. I wish there was outside access, because if I ever upgraded the
TS, it would have to go down in pieces.
Check out my shop page...
http://members.fretzmultimedia.com/joebettystein/page5.html
Cheers.
Joe
Buck Turgidson wrote:
> Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
> have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
> table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
> upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
> currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
> system.
>
> I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
> contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
> I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
>
>
I forgot to mention....
Since adding the DC, my biggest house polluter is the 'chalking' of the
concrete. I can clean the basement, mop it, and wipe my finger across the
floor and get nothing on my finger. But in a few weeks time, there is a
layer of grey concrete dust everywhere again. I suppose that putting a
floor paint on would do the trick, but I haven't gotten to it yet. But that
may be something you can do if you are moving into an unfinished space.
Mike W.
"Mike W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a basement shop. I Recently got some new tools and a Delta Dust
>Collector ($150) was on the list. I have a Craftsman hybrid table saw, a
>jointer, router table, and a couple other dust makers. The collector does
>an adequate job of keeping the dust at bay and it comes with a mobile base
>so I just move it to the tool I'm using at the time. Harbor freight has a
>dust collector that packs more power and gets decent reviews... it just
>doesn't have the brand reputation Delta has so that'd be worth a look if
>you decide to get one.
>
> It was heck getting the TS into the basement. It went down in 4 major
> pieces and was still trouble for me, a buddy, and a furniture dolly. I
> only made, one hole in the drywall, so I still consider it a success. :-)
> I would have loved to have a walkout right about that time. I planned on
> putting it on a mobile base, but haven't yet needed to. Since the entire
> basement is unfinished I have enough room for now to keep everything
> relatively spaced out.
>
>
>
> "Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
>> have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
>> table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
>> upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
>> currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
>> system.
>>
>> I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
>> contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>>
>> I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
>>
>>
>
>
"Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a basement workshop. I use a Craftsman TS on a homebuilt mobile
> stand, hooked up to a DC. Even with dust collection I get a thin layer
> of dust. I wish there was outside access, because if I ever upgraded
the
> TS, it would have to go down in pieces.
> Check out my shop page...
> http://members.fretzmultimedia.com/joebettystein/page5.html
> Cheers.
> Joe
Nice mobile stand for your tablesaw. Maybe I'll build my own. I built
a stand with pneumatic tires for my 12" Delta CMS that also doubles as a
workbench.
I have a walk-out basement shop as well (SuperSaw, RAS, drill press,
jointer, shaper, 2HP dust collector). The biggest benefit of the walk-out
is the ability get stock into the shop without dinging the walls in the
house trying to navigate long boards and sheet goods down the stairs.
"Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
> have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
> table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
> upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
> currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
> system.
>
> I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
> contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
> I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
>
>
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:07:37 -0400, "Buck Turgidson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
>have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
>table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
>upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
>currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
>system.
I have a garage, but I keep my shop in the basement simply because
it's heated, has more room, and I can keep my van in the garage. I
just sweep the floor after working, and it's no problem. I was lucky
enough to buy a house with a furnace that gets its fresh air from the
outdoors via a PVC pipe, and has good air exchangers in every room
upstairs, so the furnace stays nice and clean, even with the sawdust
in the shop. I'm pretty sure the old fella that lived here before me
used it as a shop as well, and had already dealt with the furnace
issue (lucky me :p )
>I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
>contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
>I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
Let 'er rip, just make sure you keep an eye on the condition of your
household appliances.
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
In article <[email protected]>,
Buck Turgidson <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
>have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
>table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
>upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
>currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
>system.
>
>I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
>contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
>I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
>
>
My contractor saw has been in the basement since I bought it. In fact
I had to remove the saw from the stand to get it down the basement
steps. If I had a walk-out door from my basement I'd get a mobile
base.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
"Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
> have to use a table saw in their basement?
I have my workshop, such as it is, in the basement. Given that SWMBO makes
our wine on the other side of the wall and is obsessive about dust, I can
attest to no great marital discord from my setup. I do have two fair size
windows in the "shop" for ventilation, and a DC system in place.
Occasionally, I wrestle the mitre saw outside to do some work, but
everything else (band saw, scroll saw, drill press, table saw, router table
... alas, no planer/jointer yet) stays put. My biggest complaint is bringing
in sheet goods when the need arises. Certainly offset by being in a heated
space and able to work all year 'round.
My tablesaw and shop are in the basement. I have a two-car garage but
that's for cars. My shop is air-conditioned and heated, plus a
double-door walkout. I'm lucky too, that I have a large shop window.
My house sits on the side of a hill. I bought this house mainly
because of the walkout basement (and my apartment had too much sawdust
in the carpet.)
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:07:37 -0400, "Buck Turgidson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
>have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
>table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
>upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
>currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
>system.
>
>I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
>contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
>I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
>
I bought a little Jet dust collector which works pretty well for
keeping the dust at bay. Before that I ran a bunch of wood through the
planer and table saw. I had a dust mask on and had a 20" box fan with
an old furnace filter in front of it. Not the cheap 2$ filter but the
ones I buy by the case that are $6-10 a piece. There was way too much
dust on the filter after that planing which spurred the dust collector
purchase.
wrote:
>From: "Buck Turgidson" <[email protected]>
>Just wondering how many people in this group don't have a garage, and
>have to use a table saw in their basement? I have a cheapo benchtop
>table saw that I can easily haul outside when I use it. I'd like to
>upgrade (Grizzly G0444?), but I will probably lose the mobility I
>currently have, and have to live with dust, or install a dust-collection
>system.
>
>I have a walk-out basement, but it would be pretty tight getting a
>contractor saw down a hallway and through the door.
>
>I'd be curious to know what other people do in this case.
>
Jim B.
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:46:04 -0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>Still, it's amazing what you can do, with a little determination.
Tom Plamann has mentioned opening the window to rip in his first
"shop". <G>
Barry
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:09:03 GMT, "Mike W."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I forgot to mention....
>
>Since adding the DC, my biggest house polluter is the 'chalking' of the
>concrete. I can clean the basement, mop it, and wipe my finger across the
>floor and get nothing on my finger. But in a few weeks time, there is a
>layer of grey concrete dust everywhere again. I suppose that putting a
>floor paint on would do the trick, but I haven't gotten to it yet. But that
>may be something you can do if you are moving into an unfinished space.
Try washing the floor down with an acid solution.
You will want to do this if you are going to paint it anyway, but it
would be worth trying in any case.
I painted my basement floor with 2 pot waterbased epoxy and lined the
walls with plywood, painted white. It was well worth doing - it is so
much easier to clean up an dyou get much more light.
Geoff