Higher cost of power tools in Canada w.r.t. USA

Defend Canada? Against what? Yep, makes no sense at all.
"D.Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ron, Your comments don't make any sense. I just hope that not all
> americans think this way. Remember that we 30 million Canadians
> should not put too much of a dent in your economy affecting your 300
> million americans. Our lumber exports for the US can be compared to
> tooth picks, I wouldn't worry about it.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> Ron <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > The PM won't pay the US the money we use to defend Canada, so this is
> > one of the methods currently employed. Another is the import tax we're
> > levying on Canadian soft lumber. It'll lessen the real price of
> > Canadian lumber entering the U.S., thus serving as another income
> > source. Another is the new thrust to allow americans to purchase
> > pharmeceuticals from Canadian vendors. That'll bite into the
> > discriminatory-pricing bargaining advantage CA has with the big drug
> > manufacturers, thus lowering the companies' willingness to sell cheaper
> > to CA. Drug prices will rise in CA, thus benefiting america (which has
> > been subsidizing drug R&D anyway). So it's really a much grander
> > picture than us tool hounds like to think. ;)
> > ron

On 13 Aug 2003 11:49:10 -0700, [email protected] (Daniel) scribbled

>Hello Canadians,
>
>It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
>less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
>Canada.

The opposite was true until the Canadian dollar rose from ~$US0.63 a
year ago to $US0.72 now. A rising Canadian dollar means that things
are becoming relatively cheaper in the US.


Luigi
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in reply address for real email address

SteveC1280 wrote:
>
> If that's the case, then why are Canadian made tools just as expensive, or more
> expensive, in Canada than in the US? I thought I might find a deal on a Leigh
> jig while on a busnienss trip in Canada. NOT! It was more expensive than I
> can find it here in the US, plus the heavy Canada tax. Go figure.

I believe you can get the tax refunded when you prove to customs that
you are taking the
product back home with you. Of course then you have the issues on this
(south) side of
the border...

-Bruce

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Too bad. I found the total opposite. PC, Delta and Laguna. But if your
only browsing prices, they are far off the mark of what they sell for.
Mainly because of price matching policies of other stores. I have
proweled stores North and South. And I must say, you are way off. I have
also met people who drive in from Buffalo and Detroit to buy. I can't
imagine what you saw. And also they can get the sales tax rebated
because they took it out of the country.

I have no interest in this but you really missed on your research.


John

Daniel wrote:

>Hello Canadians,
>
>It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
>less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
>Canada.
>
>Furthermore, there seem to be lots and lots of promotions for tools in
>the USA (freebies, bonus stuff included, rebates, mail-in coupons for
>bonus tools, etc) and nothing in Canada.
>
>I feel envious when I browse the Amazon.com power tool section...
>
>Is Canada that small of a market that dealer cost is higher? Or are
>the markups higher here on about the same dealer cost? Or...?
>
>- Daniel
>
>

I have found the same thing. That is, prices are lower in Canada. That held
true for my more recent purchases of a joiner, mortiser and HVLP system. JG

Eddie Munster wrote:

> Too bad. I found the total opposite. PC, Delta and Laguna. But if your
> only browsing prices, they are far off the mark of what they sell for.
> Mainly because of price matching policies of other stores. I have
> proweled stores North and South. And I must say, you are way off. I have
> also met people who drive in from Buffalo and Detroit to buy. I can't
> imagine what you saw. And also they can get the sales tax rebated
> because they took it out of the country.
>
> I have no interest in this but you really missed on your research.
>
> John
>
> Daniel wrote:
>
> >Hello Canadians,
> >
> >It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
> >less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
> >Canada.
> >
> >Furthermore, there seem to be lots and lots of promotions for tools in
> >the USA (freebies, bonus stuff included, rebates, mail-in coupons for
> >bonus tools, etc) and nothing in Canada.
> >
> >I feel envious when I browse the Amazon.com power tool section...
> >
> >Is Canada that small of a market that dealer cost is higher? Or are
> >the markups higher here on about the same dealer cost? Or...?
> >
> >- Daniel
> >
> >

Ron, Your comments don't make any sense. I just hope that not all
americans think this way. Remember that we 30 million Canadians
should not put too much of a dent in your economy affecting your 300
million americans. Our lumber exports for the US can be compared to
tooth picks, I wouldn't worry about it.

Daniel


Ron <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> The PM won't pay the US the money we use to defend Canada, so this is
> one of the methods currently employed. Another is the import tax we're
> levying on Canadian soft lumber. It'll lessen the real price of
> Canadian lumber entering the U.S., thus serving as another income
> source. Another is the new thrust to allow americans to purchase
> pharmeceuticals from Canadian vendors. That'll bite into the
> discriminatory-pricing bargaining advantage CA has with the big drug
> manufacturers, thus lowering the companies' willingness to sell cheaper
> to CA. Drug prices will rise in CA, thus benefiting america (which has
> been subsidizing drug R&D anyway). So it's really a much grander
> picture than us tool hounds like to think. ;)
> ron

"Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One option you may want to consider is to purchase the item online in US
and
> have it shipped to Canada. Recently, I purchased a brand new Dewalt 18v 4
> piece kit ($850 Canadian + tax at HD) from eBay. With shipping, cost to
my
> door was $550 Canadian! And I received a bonus cordless screwdriver in
the
> kit! I don't think every item is like that, but sometimes it just doesn't
> make sense to buy in Canada.

That has it's advantages and disadvantages. Many US companies will not ship
to Canada. Some will only ship by UPS or some other large scale courier and
you get dinged for high duty and handling charges before they'll give it to
you. And then there's the heavier power tools and shipping costs are likely
to be a nightmare. The biggest disadvantage is that States side warranties
are quite often not transferable to Canadian side even if the company is
international. I just experienced this with the Panasonic $800 Hard
drive/DVD recorder purchased from the US. The unit is not available in
Canada and Canada Panasonic will not honour the warranty here, so if there's
a problem, I'll have to ship it back to the US for service or pay out of
pocket to have it repaired here. If I get past the first year without any
problem the warranty will have expired so I'll be paying here anyway, but
I'm not at that point yet.

Hello there,

> One that REALLY p*sses me off is trying to purchase a plunge base for my
PC
> 690 router. To buy that part down in the States is about $90 US. But if
> you go to HD or any other vendor in Canada, it's about $250.

Try these people,

www.federatedtool.com

$100 (CDN) for the plunge base plus shipping.

Yes, I work there, and I sell them for that price all the time.

Here in Canada you can buy General equipment for far less than it sells for
in the USA, same for Unisaw's and DJ-20's.

Thanks,

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Here's the e-mail I got from a dialogue I had with someone at Jet Equipment:

The JCS-10 is less expensive to buy than the JWTS-10 because JET Canada is
buying the JCS-10 direct from the factory and the JWTS-10 is purchased by
JET Canada from the factory through JET USA. This extra step in the
distribution network carries a cost which is reflected in the final market
price.

We feel that the 2HP motor, solid cast extensions, carbide tipped blade and
stronger fence offered on the JCS-10 (here we are comparing the stock JCS-10
fence to the stock JWTS-10JF fence, not the Xacta fence) make it a much
better buy over-all than the JWTS-10.

The only advantage left to the JWTS-10, over the JCS-10, may be that the
1-1/2HP motor allows it to run reasonably well on a standard 115V circuit as
long as you don't over do the feed rate. This plug and go ability appeals to
people who do not want to wire in a specific circuit just to run a saw. But
for proper performance you should run both of the saws at 230V which in most
cases means wiring in a special circuit anyway. So in our opinion this sort
of cancels out the plug and go "advantage".

Clint

"Clint Neufeld" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, tonight I can post an e-mail I received from someone at Jet Canada.
> They have two contractor saws available. One is a Canada only model, the
> other ones is the same as the US model. The Canada only model has better
> specs (more powerful motor, cast iron wings), and is cheaper by about $200
> than the US model. The reason is that Jet Canada has to buy the US one
from
> Jet US. They pass the additional costs down to us. I don't know if this
> busines model is true for all manufacturers.
>
> One that REALLY p*sses me off is trying to purchase a plunge base for my
PC
> 690 router. To buy that part down in the States is about $90 US. But if
> you go to HD or any other vendor in Canada, it's about $250. Nobody has
> been able to explain to my why that is. However, the Delta tools I've
> bought recently (and the ones I've been looking at) are "Series 2000"
> machines, and have a lifetime warranty on them. The US models have a
> shorter warranty.
>
> Clint
>
> "Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello Canadians,
> >
> > It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
> > less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
> > Canada.
> >
> > Furthermore, there seem to be lots and lots of promotions for tools in
> > the USA (freebies, bonus stuff included, rebates, mail-in coupons for
> > bonus tools, etc) and nothing in Canada.
> >
> > I feel envious when I browse the Amazon.com power tool section...
> >
> > Is Canada that small of a market that dealer cost is higher? Or are
> > the markups higher here on about the same dealer cost? Or...?
> >
> > - Daniel
>
>

Well, tonight I can post an e-mail I received from someone at Jet Canada.
They have two contractor saws available. One is a Canada only model, the
other ones is the same as the US model. The Canada only model has better
specs (more powerful motor, cast iron wings), and is cheaper by about $200
than the US model. The reason is that Jet Canada has to buy the US one from
Jet US. They pass the additional costs down to us. I don't know if this
busines model is true for all manufacturers.

One that REALLY p*sses me off is trying to purchase a plunge base for my PC
690 router. To buy that part down in the States is about $90 US. But if
you go to HD or any other vendor in Canada, it's about $250. Nobody has
been able to explain to my why that is. However, the Delta tools I've
bought recently (and the ones I've been looking at) are "Series 2000"
machines, and have a lifetime warranty on them. The US models have a
shorter warranty.

Clint

"Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Canadians,
>
> It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
> less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
> Canada.
>
> Furthermore, there seem to be lots and lots of promotions for tools in
> the USA (freebies, bonus stuff included, rebates, mail-in coupons for
> bonus tools, etc) and nothing in Canada.
>
> I feel envious when I browse the Amazon.com power tool section...
>
> Is Canada that small of a market that dealer cost is higher? Or are
> the markups higher here on about the same dealer cost? Or...?
>
> - Daniel

It's the additional cost of the snow tires and chains on all the
delivery vehicles aye.


[email protected] (Daniel) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hello Canadians,
>
> It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
> less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
> Canada.
>
> Furthermore, there seem to be lots and lots of promotions for tools in
> the USA (freebies, bonus stuff included, rebates, mail-in coupons for
> bonus tools, etc) and nothing in Canada.
>
> I feel envious when I browse the Amazon.com power tool section...
>
> Is Canada that small of a market that dealer cost is higher? Or are
> the markups higher here on about the same dealer cost? Or...?
>
> - Daniel

On 13 Aug 2003 11:49:10 -0700, [email protected] (Daniel) wrote:

>Hello Canadians,
>
>It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
>less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
>Canada.

A bit OT, but have you seen the price of power tools in the UK? Talk
about rip-off Britain!!

I bought a DeWalt 705 in NH (so no sales tax) for USD 255, the same
damm thing in the UK was 345 Pounds STG

Barry Lennox

Its like most things ya buy cause what I've been on the hunt for most lately
has been cheaper in canada
"Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Canadians,
>
> It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
> less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
> Canada.
>
> Furthermore, there seem to be lots and lots of promotions for tools in
> the USA (freebies, bonus stuff included, rebates, mail-in coupons for
> bonus tools, etc) and nothing in Canada.
>
> I feel envious when I browse the Amazon.com power tool section...
>
> Is Canada that small of a market that dealer cost is higher? Or are
> the markups higher here on about the same dealer cost? Or...?
>
> - Daniel

One option you may want to consider is to purchase the item online in US and
have it shipped to Canada. Recently, I purchased a brand new Dewalt 18v 4
piece kit ($850 Canadian + tax at HD) from eBay. With shipping, cost to my
door was $550 Canadian! And I received a bonus cordless screwdriver in the
kit! I don't think every item is like that, but sometimes it just doesn't
make sense to buy in Canada.

Kevin

"Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Canadians,
>
> It seems to be always the case that the same power tool will sell for
> less in the USA (taking into account the exchange rate) than in
> Canada.
>
> Furthermore, there seem to be lots and lots of promotions for tools in
> the USA (freebies, bonus stuff included, rebates, mail-in coupons for
> bonus tools, etc) and nothing in Canada.
>
> I feel envious when I browse the Amazon.com power tool section...
>
> Is Canada that small of a market that dealer cost is higher? Or are
> the markups higher here on about the same dealer cost? Or...?
>
> - Daniel