Rodger Podlogar wrote:
> I have read on a number of news groups, including this one that Ryobi cuts a
> sloppy slot. Since I use biscuits for alignment not strength I find this to
> be a feature..
Huh? The idea of the biscuit is to keep the boards flush. With the slop in the
Ryobi's cut it doesn't.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
"John DeBoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thanks Gene, I'll probably get the Ryobi but have also been looking
> at the Craftsman Prof model as its on sale for $135. Problem is I
> could use that extra $36 to also buy the Ryobi 2hp plunge router
> ($99) that has gotten some nice reviews. SIGH - what to do...
>
> Gene T wrote:
>
>> >
> >>Anyone have one of these they'd venture an opinion on? I see HD has
> >>them for $99. I'm an occasional small furniture sort of builder so
> >>it won't get a whole lot of use, however.......
> >>
> >
> >
> >
If you really think you will not use it much, why not buy the one from
Harbor Freight @ $69 and cheaper when on sale, and use the extra $30 + the
$35 you were thinking about spending on the Craftsman and apply it to a
Hitachi M12V 3 1/4 hp Plunge router? You can get them for $159 - $179 and
you will hear tons of good reviews here for it. I love mine in a router
table.
Digger
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:33:32 -0700, "Rodger Podlogar"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:20:58 -0600, John DeBoo <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You might consider looking at the Kreg pocket joiner system. Its not
>> for everybody...but it has some advantages over biscuits in a lot of
>> cases.
>>
>> You can get a basic system for about $20.
>>
>> I've used it several times...and am quite pleased.
>
>After investing in a biscuit joiner, about 4 dozen different clamps and
>waiting 30 to 45 minutes between glue ups I invested in the Kreg Pro system
>and haven't looked back. No glue up times, no need for a bunch of clamps,
>10 times stronger than biscuits. If the pocket hole isn't going to show,
>it's the way to go..
>
And, of course, they sell plugs for the holes, Rodger. They come in
about a half dozen different kinds of wood.
Just curious, Rog...
Do you do a glue up most of the time? I've done it both ways...glue
and dry...and I don't see a whole lot of difference. I've been
leaning toward the glue, though...most of the time. But, even dry,
you sure get a nice, tight fit.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:08:21 GMT, "Bob G. " <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I have the Ryobi biscuit cutter. It does what it's supposed to do and does
>>it quite nicely. The fence isn't the slickest thing in the world to set
>>up, but it does indeed do what it's supposed to do. Sure, it might well
>>take a bit longer to set everything up compared to a PC unit, but it also
>>costs half as much -- and cuts the same shape slot as the big bucks one.
My Ryobi cuts a slightly sloppy slot though, although it works it's
not as tight as the PC a friend has. But mine is lighter, cost half
as much and for the amount it gets used is a good buy. I biscuit MDF
with it fine, but I have had problems doing biscuit joints in crown
molding with it and the PC worked fine for that.
>I honestly have the tendency to buy the best I can afford but I am
>having some problems spending a few hundred dollars on a tool I will
>not use but a few times a year...
Shhh! Our wives might hear you! :)
Jeff
Thanks for the link. Again proof that the net will provide you with
just about any information that you maybe looking for. Possibly Freud
may have been one of the first to commercially push the biscuit joiner
in north america. But again I might be wrong on this one, notice I
used the word "possibly".
D.Martin
> http://www.huntfamily.com/metz/bj_history.htm
"John DeBoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: Anyone have one of these they'd venture an opinion on? I see HD has
: them for $99. I'm an occasional small furniture sort of builder so
: it won't get a whole lot of use, however.......
:
I have the Ryobi biscuit cutter. It does what it's supposed to do and does
it quite nicely. The fence isn't the slickest thing in the world to set
up, but it does indeed do what it's supposed to do. Sure, it might well
take a bit longer to set everything up compared to a PC unit, but it also
costs half as much -- and cuts the same shape slot as the big bucks one.
I returned two (2) DeWalt plate joiners because of incredibly shoddy
manufacturing workmanship before I bought the Ryobi.
I'm pleased to have a better tool that cost me *far* less. In fact, when I
got the Ryobi last January I also got a Milwaukee Jig Saw at the same
time -- and spent about the same amount of money for *both* tools as the
Porter Cable biscuit cutter would have cost all by its lonesomes.
--
Steve
www.ApacheTrail.com/ww/
Mesa, AZ
Penury Is the Mother of Invention
Thanks Gene, I'll probably get the Ryobi but have also been looking
at the Craftsman Prof model as its on sale for $135. Problem is I
could use that extra $36 to also buy the Ryobi 2hp plunge router
($99) that has gotten some nice reviews. SIGH - what to do...
Gene T wrote:
> Hi John,
> I have that one too and it does a good job. As others have posted in the
> past the fence needs a little bit of fussing but I like the handle design
> and the hooked up to my shopvac I get no sawdust flying around.
> Gene
> "John DeBoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Anyone have one of these they'd venture an opinion on? I see HD has
>>them for $99. I'm an occasional small furniture sort of builder so
>>it won't get a whole lot of use, however.......
>>
>
>
>
Steve wrote:
>I have the Ryobi biscuit cutter. It does what it's supposed to do and does
>it quite nicely. The fence isn't the slickest thing in the world to set
>up, but it does indeed do what it's supposed to do. Sure, it might well
>take a bit longer to set everything up compared to a PC unit, but it also
>costs half as much -- and cuts the same shape slot as the big bucks one.
>
>I returned two (2) DeWalt plate joiners because of incredibly shoddy
>manufacturing workmanship before I bought the Ryobi.
>
>I'm pleased to have a better tool that cost me *far* less. In fact,
>
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=========================
Honestly it is hard to believe that the Ryobi is better then the two
Dewalts that you had to return BUT stranger things have been known to
happen....
Anyway I have been toying with the idea of buying a biscuit jointer
even thought I have managed (quite nicely) to do without one for 40+
years ... And like the original poster I do not see my usage
as being "heavy"...
I honestly have the tendency to buy the best I can afford but I am
having some problems spending a few hundred dollars on a tool I will
not use but a few times a year...Better off buying a workable lower end
biscuit jointer and another Forrest Blade for one of the saws...
Same situation with the Router Raisers that are now being
marketed...Heck I have had a Table mounted router (3 set up in the shop
right now) for years and spending the money to save myself from
bending over to adjust the bit seems like a a waste...
Bob Griffiths
"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:33:32 -0700,
> And, of course, they sell plugs for the holes, Rodger. They come in
> about a half dozen different kinds of wood.
>
> Just curious, Rog...
>
> Do you do a glue up most of the time? I've done it both ways...glue
> and dry...and I don't see a whole lot of difference. I've been
> leaning toward the glue, though...most of the time. But, even dry,
> you sure get a nice, tight fit.
>
I use plugs on painted projects but don't like the looks of them on finished
projects.
As to using glue, when I first started with pocket holes I glued everything
up. A few months ago my wife picked up a small stool at a yard sale for her
dressing table. I believe it was originally designed for a child and it
ended up broken. Well, OK, I sat on it. Went out to the shop to build a
new stool; a quick and dirty weekend project. I sized a 3/4 piece of scrap
ply for the seat and cut the legs and braces out of 2x2 scrap pine; sanded
everything down and dry fitted it with 6 or 8 pocket screws.
The following day we had a big wind storm that damaged our gazbo and I spent
the next 3 weekends repairing the gazbo. Getting back to the stool I
slapped on 2 coats of paint, forgetting that I hadn't glued it up. The
thing is rock solid. I weigh around 200 pounds, I sat on it, rocked back
and forth several times and couldn't crack the paint at any of the joints..
"someone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> so you're saying you prefer sloppy alignment over accurate alignment?
> seems a bit contradictory to me...
>
I'm saying I like a little play in order to get an accurate alignment...
Hi John,
I have that one too and it does a good job. As others have posted in the
past the fence needs a little bit of fussing but I like the handle design
and the hooked up to my shopvac I get no sawdust flying around.
Gene
"John DeBoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone have one of these they'd venture an opinion on? I see HD has
> them for $99. I'm an occasional small furniture sort of builder so
> it won't get a whole lot of use, however.......
>
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:08:21 GMT, "Bob G. " <[email protected]> wrote:
> My Ryobi cuts a slightly sloppy slot though, although it works it's
> not as tight as the PC a friend has. But mine is lighter, cost half
> as much and for the amount it gets used is a good buy. I biscuit MDF
I have read on a number of news groups, including this one that Ryobi cuts a
sloppy slot. Since I use biscuits for alignment not strength I find this to
be a feature..
If a little play = accurate alignment, no biscuit at all would be even
better.
"Rodger Podlogar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Z5DVa.4074$Ye.2327@fed1read02...
>
> "someone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > so you're saying you prefer sloppy alignment over accurate alignment?
> > seems a bit contradictory to me...
> >
> I'm saying I like a little play in order to get an accurate alignment...
>
>
I removed the dust bag and made a wooden deflector that slides over
the exhaust port. The sawdust now shoots away from my face.
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:53:44 GMT, "Gene T" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hi John,
>I have that one too and it does a good job. As others have posted in the
>past the fence needs a little bit of fussing but I like the handle design
>and the hooked up to my shopvac I get no sawdust flying around.
>Gene
>"John DeBoo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Anyone have one of these they'd venture an opinion on? I see HD has
>> them for $99. I'm an occasional small furniture sort of builder so
>> it won't get a whole lot of use, however.......
>>
>
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:20:58 -0600, John DeBoo <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Anyone have one of these they'd venture an opinion on? I see HD has
>them for $99. I'm an occasional small furniture sort of builder so
>it won't get a whole lot of use, however.......
You might consider looking at the Kreg pocket joiner system. Its not
for everybody...but it has some advantages over biscuits in a lot of
cases.
You can get a basic system for about $20.
I've used it several times...and am quite pleased.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:24:40 -0700, Rodger Podlogar wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:08:21 GMT, "Bob G. " <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My Ryobi cuts a slightly sloppy slot though, although it works it's
>> not as tight as the PC a friend has. But mine is lighter, cost half
>> as much and for the amount it gets used is a good buy. I biscuit MDF
>
> I have read on a number of news groups, including this one that Ryobi cuts a
> sloppy slot. Since I use biscuits for alignment not strength I find this to
> be a feature..
so you're saying you prefer sloppy alignment over accurate alignment?
seems a bit contradictory to me...
"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:20:58 -0600, John DeBoo <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> You might consider looking at the Kreg pocket joiner system. Its not
> for everybody...but it has some advantages over biscuits in a lot of
> cases.
>
> You can get a basic system for about $20.
>
> I've used it several times...and am quite pleased.
After investing in a biscuit joiner, about 4 dozen different clamps and
waiting 30 to 45 minutes between glue ups I invested in the Kreg Pro system
and haven't looked back. No glue up times, no need for a bunch of clamps,
10 times stronger than biscuits. If the pocket hole isn't going to show,
it's the way to go..