My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I have
been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool ets
125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and will pay
the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they are. Anybody
with experience with this tool? Advise?
Roger
"Bigpole" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have both of those sanders. The PC sits in a drawer. My hand doesn't
>tingle after I use the Festool like it did when I uses the PC. I like that
>I can set the Festool down right away, not like the PC where you have to
>wait forever for it to stop spinning. The only problem I had with the
>Festool was when they came out with a new hole pattern they supplied me
>with a new pad, well that pad's hook and loop wouldn't hold the sandpaper
>after a short time of sanding. Festool would not replace the pad. I drilled
>new holes in the old pad and I'm still using it.
I wonder if the new pad works better with perhaps the new paper also. Are
you still using paper that you originally had? Perhaps, there are new pads
and new paper to stick to it.
Just a thought.
Roger Woehl wrote:
> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I have
> been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool ets
> 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and will pay
> the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they are. Anybody
> with experience with this tool? Advise?
One of the FWW articles (maybe a tools and shops issue?) tested 5" ROS
for speed of stock removal, vibration, evenness of scratch pattern, etc.
You might want to dig up that article.
Chris
"Roger Woehl" wrote:
.
> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years.
I have
> been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
ets
> 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense?
Can't comment on Festool, but suggest you consider a 6" unit as a
minimum.
I have beat the crap out of a 3727 Bosch, had a couple stolen and next
time would look at an 8" unit.
Just for reference:
36/25 = 1.44 or 144%
IOW, a 6" unit provides 144% as much sanding area as a 5" unit.
Have fun.
Lew
"Joe" wrote:
> Good advice, bad math <g>
>
> pi r sq=
>
> 5" 15.625 sq in
> 6" 28.26 sq in
> = 180.8% more sanding pad area.
When it comes to math, I'm lazy.
If you want to compare the area of two circles, consider the
following:
Area of circle = (Pi)(r^2) = (Pi)(d^2)/4
Area1/Area2 = ((Pi)(d1^2)/4)/((Pi)(d2^2)/4) = d1^2/d2^2
The value of Pi never enters into the calculation.
Lew
"Leon" wrote:
> The advantages of the 5" are that the sander itself tends to be
physically
> smaller and will get into tighter spaces.
If you use a round ROS sander, you still need a detail sander to get
into the corners, so the 5 vs 6 issue becomes moot.
Sanding is not my favorite pastime, the quicker it gets done, the
better I like it.
So for people like me, bigger is better.
Lew
Roger Woehl wrote:
> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I
> have been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the
> Festool ets 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good
> tools and will pay the price if they truly are as good as the
> grapevine says they are. Anybody with experience with this tool?
> Advise? Roger
None with the Festool but at Christmas I received a 6inch Ridgid, lifetime
warrantee, good dust collection with just the bag, variable speed, two modes
etc....no complaints.....incidentally when my old 5inch Ryobi dies I'll
replace it as well (probably with a 5inch Ridgid) as its very handy having
more than one grit always ready....Rod
On Jan 24, 6:14=A0am, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Roger Woehl" wrote:
>
> > .
> >> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years.
> > I have
> >> been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
> > ets
> >> 125 eq 5" at $165. =A0Is it worth the expense?
>
> > Can't comment on Festool, but suggest you consider a 6" unit as a
> > minimum.
>
> > I have beat the crap out of a 3727 Bosch, had a couple stolen and next
> > time would look at an 8" unit.
>
> > Just for reference:
>
> > 36/25 =3D 1.44 or 144%
>
> > IOW, a 6" unit provides 144% as much sanding area as a 5" unit.
>
> > Have fun.
>
> > Lew
>
> Good advice, bad math <g>
>
> pi r sq=3D
>
> 5" =A015.625 sq in
> 6" =A028.26 sq in
> =3D 180.8% more sanding pad area.
>
> hagd,
>
> jc
( psssssst...oops, Joe. You may have had a slip of the keyboard, but
think of the bright side, you have made somebody's day, because some
of our illustrious members lie in the bushes all day waiting for
somebody to make a typo so they can show off their artificial and
shallow brilliance...<G>)
IOW, about half again as much as a 5" or thereabouts. *IF* one deducts
the 9 holes in a 6" Festool pad...assuming one doesn't use Abranet,
which is a screen, but doesn't have any holes, and stroke isn't the
same as others, ohhh the math-horror, the HORROR!!!
<G> (I get 19.64, not 19.63 because I use metric roundovers @ -5-
degrees C)....LOL)
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
*wanders off to have yet another productive day.*
"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:28:40 -0800, "Roger Woehl"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I
>>have
>>been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool ets
>>125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and will
>>pay
>>the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they are.
>>Anybody
>>with experience with this tool? Advise?
>>Roger
>>
>
>
> Personally, I'd buy another PC. Festool is quality stuff but PC is
> not bad at all. In 10 more years I can replace it again and still
> havn't spent $165. Now if you invest the extra $100 in the S&P500 (an
> even better buy right now) you'll have $260 in 10 years which means
> you got the PC for free plus an extra bonus of $100.
PC was good, not so much anymore. I had total respect for the brand but my
NEW, 2 years ago, replacement SpeedBloc that replaced the SpeedBloc in 1990
is not equal IMHO. Pretty good but not as good.
I have both of those sanders. The PC sits in a drawer. My hand doesn't
tingle after I use the Festool like it did when I uses the PC. I like that I
can set the Festool down right away, not like the PC where you have to wait
forever for it to stop spinning. The only problem I had with the Festool was
when they came out with a new hole pattern they supplied me with a new pad,
well that pad's hook and loop wouldn't hold the sandpaper after a short time
of sanding. Festool would not replace the pad. I drilled new holes in the
old pad and I'm still using it.
Ted
"Roger Woehl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I
> have been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
> ets 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and
> will pay the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they
> are. Anybody with experience with this tool? Advise?
> Roger
>
The new pad wouldn't hold the new paper I didn't try it with the old
paper.The old pad holds both old and new paper.
Ted
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I wonder if the new pad works better with perhaps the new paper also. Are
> you still using paper that you originally had? Perhaps, there are new
> pads and new paper to stick to it.
> Just a thought.
>
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:28:40 -0800, "Roger Woehl"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I have
>been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool ets
>125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and will pay
>the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they are. Anybody
>with experience with this tool? Advise?
>Roger
>
Personally, I'd buy another PC. Festool is quality stuff but PC is
not bad at all. In 10 more years I can replace it again and still
havn't spent $165. Now if you invest the extra $100 in the S&P500 (an
even better buy right now) you'll have $260 in 10 years which means
you got the PC for free plus an extra bonus of $100.
"Roger Woehl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I
> have been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
> ets 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and
> will pay the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they
> are. Anybody with experience with this tool? Advise?
> Roger
>
I have been in the middle of the discussions and can offer you this. My PC
sander still works well after a few parts replacements and it is about 17
years old. It is however the right angle 2 hand variety ROS.
5" vs. 6" I have the 5" and will more than likely get the 5" again.
The advantage of the 6" over the 5" is that it covers more area but with
1/2" more reach in the direction that you are moving and IMHO this is not a
big advantage unless you are working on wide open and large spaces.
The advantages of the 5" are that the sander itself tends to be physically
smaller and will get into tighter spaces. Not as limited to the places that
you can use it, if you will. And, naturally the paper will be cheaper.
Now if you want a comparison of Festool Sanders, click here,
http://festoolusa.com/Web_files/Getting_the_most_from_Festool_sanders.pdf
Probably more than you need to know but may want to know. ;~)
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 24, 6:14 am, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Roger Woehl" wrote:
>
> > .
> >> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years.
> > I have
> >> been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
> > ets
> >> 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense?
>
> > Can't comment on Festool, but suggest you consider a 6" unit as a
> > minimum.
>
> > I have beat the crap out of a 3727 Bosch, had a couple stolen and next
> > time would look at an 8" unit.
>
> > Just for reference:
>
> > 36/25 = 1.44 or 144%
>
> > IOW, a 6" unit provides 144% as much sanding area as a 5" unit.
>
> > Have fun.
>
> > Lew
>
> Good advice, bad math <g>
>
> pi r sq=
>
> 5" 15.625 sq in
> 6" 28.26 sq in
> = 180.8% more sanding pad area.
>
> hagd,
>
> jc
( psssssst...oops, Joe. You may have had a slip of the keyboard, but
think of the bright side, you have made somebody's day, because some
of our illustrious members lie in the bushes all day waiting for
somebody to make a typo so they can show off their artificial and
shallow brilliance...<G>)
IOW, about half again as much as a 5" or thereabouts. *IF* one deducts
the 9 holes in a 6" Festool pad...assuming one doesn't use Abranet,
which is a screen, but doesn't have any holes, and stroke isn't the
same as others, ohhh the math-horror, the HORROR!!!
<G> (I get 19.64, not 19.63 because I use metric roundovers @ -5-
degrees C)....LOL)
.
*wanders off to have yet another productive day.*
LMAO! I guess I'll make a mental note not to do corrective math pre-coffee.
*wanders off wondering what the diameter of the dust holes are and cursing
j.clarke for making him think of such things......*
;-),
jc
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jan 24, 10:26 pm, "Roger Woehl" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gee Thanks. You all covered that area squarely. The advise was truly
> formulaic mixed with some unique symbolism. I enjoyed it over some pi.
> Roger
....the kind of thing you can expect when a circle of friends is drawn
together.
Regardless of how abrasive some might be......
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Roger Woehl" wrote:
>
> .
>> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years.
> I have
>> been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
> ets
>> 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense?
>
> Can't comment on Festool, but suggest you consider a 6" unit as a
> minimum.
>
> I have beat the crap out of a 3727 Bosch, had a couple stolen and next
> time would look at an 8" unit.
>
> Just for reference:
>
> 36/25 = 1.44 or 144%
>
> IOW, a 6" unit provides 144% as much sanding area as a 5" unit.
>
> Have fun.
>
> Lew
>
Good advice, bad math <g>
pi r sq=
5" 15.625 sq in
6" 28.26 sq in
= 180.8% more sanding pad area.
hagd,
jc
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 24, 6:14 am, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
IOW, about half again as much as a 5" or thereabouts. *IF* one deducts
the 9 holes in a 6" Festool pad...assuming one doesn't use Abranet,
which is a screen, but doesn't have any holes, and stroke isn't the
same as others, ohhh the math-horror, the HORROR!!!
<G> (I get 19.64, not 19.63 because I use metric roundovers @ -5-
degrees C)....LOL)
.
ROTFLMAO AND if you have no overlapping passes of the sander. Wasted
over sanding on overlapped passes deduct form productivity.
On Jan 24, 8:57=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Roger Woehl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. =A0=
I
> > have been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festoo=
l
> > ets 125 eq 5" at $165. =A0Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and=
> > will pay the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they
> > are. Anybody with experience with this tool? Advise?
> > Roger
>
> I have been in the middle of the discussions and can offer you this. =A0My=
PC
> sander still works well after a few parts replacements and it is about 17
> years old. =A0It is however the right angle 2 hand variety ROS.
>
> 5" vs. 6" =A0I have the 5" and will more than likely get the 5" again.
> The advantage of the 6" over the 5" is that it covers more area but with
> 1/2" more reach in the direction that you are moving and IMHO this is not =
a
> big advantage unless you are working on wide open and large spaces.
> The advantages of the 5" are that the sander itself tends to be physically=
> smaller and will get into tighter spaces. =A0Not as limited to the places =
that
> you can use it, if you will. =A0And, naturally the paper will be cheaper.
>
> Now if you want a comparison of Festool Sanders, click here,http://festool=
usa.com/Web_files/Getting_the_most_from_Festool_sanders...
>
> Probably more than you need to know but may want to know. =A0;~)
That's pretty thorough. Thanks for that.
The 6" suits my work better because all I want is flat, flat flat.
(Hence the 8" Fein and the 13" Quad)
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> The advantages of the 5" are that the sander itself tends to be
> physically
>> smaller and will get into tighter spaces.
>
> If you use a round ROS sander, you still need a detail sander to get
> into the corners, so the 5 vs 6 issue becomes moot.
Absolutely correct and that is why I do have a a square finish and detail
sander for the corners. But the 5" will be easier to balance when sanding
the edge of 3/4" thick stock, which I very often do when building face
frames.
Simply put, the smaller sanders are easier to control on any aspect of
sanding face frames, and or IMHO the larger sanders don't save enough time
on a 6 square foot surface to warrent over a smaller sander that works
better on smaller pieces.
>
> Sanding is not my favorite pastime, the quicker it gets done, the
> better I like it.
At one time I hated sanding but with better equipment I have learned to
"enjoy?" it more. LOL
>
> So for people like me, bigger is better.
Absolutley, and if your surfaces are larger it just makes more sense.
On Jan 24, 10:26=A0pm, "Roger Woehl" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gee Thanks. You all covered that area squarely. =A0The advise was truly
> formulaic mixed with some unique symbolism. I enjoyed it over some pi.
> Roger
=2E...the kind of thing you can expect when a circle of friends is drawn
together.
On Jan 24, 1:24=A0pm, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:28:40 -0800, "Roger =A0Woehl"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. =A0I=
have
> >been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool =A0e=
ts
> >125 eq 5" at $165. =A0Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and will=
pay
> >the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they are. Anybo=
dy
> >with experience with this tool? Advise?
> >Roger
>
> Personally, I'd buy another PC. =A0Festool is quality stuff but PC is
> not bad at all. =A0In 10 more years I can replace it again and still
> havn't spent $165. =A0Now if you invest the extra $100 in the S&P500 (an
> even better buy right now) you'll have $260 in 10 years which means
> you got the PC for free plus an extra bonus of $100.
Problem is, you won't get a replacement like your old one. PC's ain't
the same no mo'.
On Jan 24, 8:56=A0am, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:268c6101-5c93-4ee7-bb00-056573801762@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 24, 6:14 am, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> > > "Roger Woehl" wrote:
>
> > > .
> > >> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years.
> > > I have
> > >> been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
> > > ets
> > >> 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense?
>
> > > Can't comment on Festool, but suggest you consider a 6" unit as a
> > > minimum.
>
> > > I have beat the crap out of a 3727 Bosch, had a couple stolen and next=
> > > time would look at an 8" unit.
>
> > > Just for reference:
>
> > > 36/25 =3D 1.44 or 144%
>
> > > IOW, a 6" unit provides 144% as much sanding area as a 5" unit.
>
> > > Have fun.
>
> > > Lew
>
> > Good advice, bad math <g>
>
> > pi r sq=3D
>
> > 5" 15.625 sq in
> > 6" 28.26 sq in
> > =3D 180.8% more sanding pad area.
>
> > hagd,
>
> > jc
>
> ( psssssst...oops, Joe. You may have had a slip of the keyboard, but
> think of the bright side, you have made somebody's day, because some
> of our illustrious members lie in the bushes all day waiting for
> somebody to make a typo so they can show off their artificial and
> shallow brilliance...<G>)
>
> IOW, about half again as much as a 5" or thereabouts. *IF* one deducts
> the 9 holes in a 6" Festool pad...assuming one doesn't use Abranet,
> which is a screen, but doesn't have any holes, and stroke isn't the
> same as others, ohhh the math-horror, the HORROR!!!
>
> <G> (I get 19.64, not 19.63 because I use metric roundovers @ -5-
> degrees C)....LOL)
> .
> *wanders off to have yet another productive day.*
>
> LMAO! =A0I guess I'll make a mental note not to do corrective math pre-cof=
fee.
>
> *wanders off wondering what the diameter of the dust holes are and cursing=
> j.clarke for making him think of such things......*
>
> ;-),
>
> jc
hehehehe... here's one to keep you busy..the Rotex 150, has one hole
in the pad of a slightly larger dimension that the 8 holes elsewhere
in the pad.
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:268c6101-5c93-4ee7-bb00-056573801762@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 24, 6:14 am, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Roger Woehl" wrote:
>>
>> > .
>> >> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years.
>> > I have
>> >> been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
>> > ets
>> >> 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense?
>>
>> > Can't comment on Festool, but suggest you consider a 6" unit as a
>> > minimum.
>>
>> > I have beat the crap out of a 3727 Bosch, had a couple stolen and next
>> > time would look at an 8" unit.
>>
>> > Just for reference:
>>
>> > 36/25 = 1.44 or 144%
>>
>> > IOW, a 6" unit provides 144% as much sanding area as a 5" unit.
>>
>> > Have fun.
>>
>> > Lew
>>
>> Good advice, bad math <g>
>>
>> pi r sq=
>>
>> 5" 15.625 sq in
>> 6" 28.26 sq in
>> = 180.8% more sanding pad area.
>>
>> hagd,
>>
>> jc
>
> ( psssssst...oops, Joe. You may have had a slip of the keyboard, but
> think of the bright side, you have made somebody's day, because some
> of our illustrious members lie in the bushes all day waiting for
> somebody to make a typo so they can show off their artificial and
> shallow brilliance...<G>)
>
> IOW, about half again as much as a 5" or thereabouts. *IF* one deducts
> the 9 holes in a 6" Festool pad...assuming one doesn't use Abranet,
> which is a screen, but doesn't have any holes, and stroke isn't the
> same as others, ohhh the math-horror, the HORROR!!!
>
> <G> (I get 19.64, not 19.63 because I use metric roundovers @ -5-
> degrees C)....LOL)
> .
> *wanders off to have yet another productive day.*
>
> LMAO! I guess I'll make a mental note not to do corrective math
> pre-coffee.
>
> *wanders off wondering what the diameter of the dust holes are and cursing
> j.clarke for making him think of such things......*
>
> ;-),
>
> jc
>
Damn, another errror. I was supposed to be cursing Rob.... when will it
end??????
On Jan 24, 6:26=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Bigpole" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I have both of those sanders. The PC sits in a drawer. My hand doesn't
> >tingle after I use the Festool like it did when I uses the PC. I like tha=
t
> >I can set the Festool down right away, not like the PC where you have to
> >wait forever for it to stop spinning. The only problem I had with the
> >Festool was when they came out with a new hole pattern they supplied me
> >with a new pad, well that pad's hook and loop wouldn't hold the sandpaper=
> >after a short time of sanding. Festool would not replace the pad. I drill=
ed
> >new holes in the old pad and I'm still using it.
>
> I wonder if the new pad works better with perhaps the new paper also. =A0A=
re
> you still using paper that you originally had? =A0Perhaps, there are new p=
ads
> and new paper to stick to it.
> Just a thought.
Velcro, hook 'n loop from all kinds of manufacturers, are not all
created equal and seemingly even incompatible sometimes. Yet another
reason I like Mirka products. But, having said that, I have a Quad
sander that uses 5" Klingspor paper that sticks incredibly well.
Joe wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Roger Woehl" wrote:
>>
>> .
>>> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10
>>> years. I have been watching the Festool conversations and wonder
>>> about the Festool ets 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense?
>>
>> Can't comment on Festool, but suggest you consider a 6" unit as a
>> minimum.
>>
>> I have beat the crap out of a 3727 Bosch, had a couple stolen and
>> next time would look at an 8" unit.
>>
>> Just for reference:
>>
>> 36/25 = 1.44 or 144%
>>
>> IOW, a 6" unit provides 144% as much sanding area as a 5" unit.
>>
>> Have fun.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>
> Good advice, bad math <g>
>
> pi r sq=
>
> 5" 15.625 sq in
> 6" 28.26 sq in
> = 180.8% more sanding pad area.
Good math actually. 5" 19.63
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:14:04 -0800 (PST), Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Velcro, hook 'n loop from all kinds of manufacturers, are not all
>created equal and seemingly even incompatible sometimes. Yet another
>reason I like Mirka products. But, having said that, I have a Quad
>sander that uses 5" Klingspor paper that sticks incredibly well.
Funny you should mention that...
I got a package from Klingspor yesterday, 2 new 2" H&L mandrels and a bunch of
disks..
The disks keep coming off when I sand bowls.. I thought it was my technique, but
that's impossible, right? ;-]
I played around a bit and my normal ripple-edge disks work fine with the
Klingspor mandrels..
Being in a weird sort of mood, I tried the Klingspor disks on an old (not
klingspor) mandrel, and they worked great..
I never considered "non-compatible H&L" until your post..
mac
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:41:11 GMT, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>On Jan 24, 10:26 pm, "Roger Woehl" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Gee Thanks. You all covered that area squarely. The advise was truly
>> formulaic mixed with some unique symbolism. I enjoyed it over some pi.
>> Roger
>
>....the kind of thing you can expect when a circle of friends is drawn
>together.
>
>Regardless of how abrasive some might be......
>
Showing your true grit now?
mac
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Gee Thanks. You all covered that area squarely. The advise was truly
formulaic mixed with some unique symbolism. I enjoyed it over some pi.
Roger
"Roger Woehl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My PC VS 5" ROS is starting to show signs of failure after 10 years. I
> have been watching the Festool conversations and wonder about the Festool
> ets 125 eq 5" at $165. Is it worth the expense? I like good tools and
> will pay the price if they truly are as good as the grapevine says they
> are. Anybody with experience with this tool? Advise?
> Roger
>
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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That's pretty thorough. Thanks for that.
The 6" suits my work better because all I want is flat, flat flat.
(Hence the 8" Fein and the 13" Quad)
Percicely! ;~)