With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
We're on at the top, 8pm central.
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"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
> you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>
> http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>
> Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>
> I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>
> We're on at the top, 8pm central.
>
Tried to take a look, but cannot figure out what you mean by "We're on at
the top, 8pm central."
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Steve Turner wrote:
> I agree with Karl that the snare sound was great (I expected nothing
> less from Mr. Radcliffe), but the sound coming from the toms was pretty
> awesome as well. Mike, any words about the tuning of the kit? Were you
> free to tune it the way you wanted it, with the next guy in line doing
> the same, or were you kinda held hostage by how the headlining drummer
> wanted things to be?
Man, I love, and appreciate a good recorded drum sound, probably more
than most drummers! Had what started out as a "Ringo Starr" kit, and
upgraded by various drummers, in the studio for years that sounded
awesome on records ... the mic's didn't move from that kit for 15 years.
No doubt you guys will laugh at this, but I date an epihany with drum
"sounds" to the first time I heard Paul Simon's "Graceland" over studio
monitors ... it was every thing I'd always wanted to do with drums on a
recording, particularly toms, but wasn't allowed to do by clients.
There were a lot of sonic things about that particular album that were
awesome for its time, but really had to be heard over studio monitors in
well designed control room to be fully appreciated. IIRC, it was
recorded mostly on a 2" 16 track at 30 ips ... there has not been bottom
end on recordings like that since that particular technology got
supplanted.
And, a bit before that, of course, Dire Straits ... then those Muscle
Shoals guys before that.
Hard to believe that was almost a quarter of a century ago, and longer.
Any way ... back to woodworking.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
Steve Turner wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
>>> you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>>>
>>> http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>>>
>>> Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>>>
>>> I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>>>
>>> We're on at the top, 8pm central.
>>>
>>
>> Tried to take a look, but cannot figure out what you mean by "We're on
>> at the top, 8pm central."
>
> I took that to mean that they may not be the only act showcased during
> that hour, but that they're on first, at the "top" of the hour. Hard to
> say for sure though because the website doesn't have a very good
> calendar of events (at least I couldn't find one).
Biggest thing to note is the dude's indeed a "player" if he's running
with this crowd ... not garage band stuff, she was recently a nationally
top pick "under 30" singer/songwriter.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
-MIKE- wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> Mike Radcliffe, eh?
>>
>> Well done. Your drumming was spot on ... just what the songs called for!
>>
>> Impeccable!
>>
>> <Man, I can't believe how "out of the Nashvegas scene" I am these days!>
>>
>
> Thank you for the compliment.
>
> There's a lot happening in Nashville that's not country. Thank God. :-)
>
> Little known fact.... over half the major label albums produced in this
> country are produced in Nashville.
> (that stat is a several years old, but it makes the point)
While aware of that from still having a number of contacts in the area,
I come from the era of Jack Clements as far a studio work goes ... that
should say it all. AAMOF, I still have a sign with one of Cowboys
sayings on the studio wall ...
"Remember that it only takes three minutes to cut a hit record."
Just remember how quickly times flies, the landscape changes, and you
become old and irrelevant. :(
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
-MIKE- wrote:
> With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
> you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>
> http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>
> Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>
> I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>
> We're on at the top, 8pm central.
\
Mike Radcliffe, eh?
Well done. Your drumming was spot on ... just what the songs called for!
Impeccable!
<Man, I can't believe how "out of the Nashvegas scene" I am these days!>
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
-MIKE- wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the compliment.
>>
>> Did you make the snare that was used on the show? Very nice snare
>> sound throughout.
>>
>
> No, but yes it was nice. I brought one just in case, if fit her music
> so I kept it.
> It was the headliner's drummer's.
>
> For most radio shows, you end up sharing a kit because of time
> constraints. I like to have as few things to swap as possible, to make
> the changeover as quick as can be.
I guarantee the sound man was grateful for that! :)
> The drum was a deep brass shell... just a "Black Beauty" clone, if
> you've heard of that snare. I'm sure you've seen or heard one, even if
> you don't recall, from your days.
Sure have. Not a drummer, but a student of drums, of all kinds, out of
sheer economic necessity ... if I had a dollar for every kit I've
mic'ed, both studio and live, I'd be a rich man.
The drum sound on a record is the most important, and challenging, task
a recording engineer faces, regardless of type of music. On "acoustic"
music like Irish, Celtic, Renaissance, Early Music, Salsa, etc., the
ability to make the indigenous drum, like bodhran or doumbek, sound on a
recording like it does to the player, can bring in beaucoup bucks. BTDT :)
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
>> you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>>
>> http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>>
>> Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>>
>> I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>>
>> We're on at the top, 8pm central.
>>
>
> Tried to take a look, but cannot figure out what you mean by "We're on at
> the top, 8pm central."
I took that to mean that they may not be the only act showcased during
that hour, but that they're on first, at the "top" of the hour. Hard to
say for sure though because the website doesn't have a very good
calendar of events (at least I couldn't find one).
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Swingman wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
>>>> you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>>>>
>>>> Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>>>>
>>>> I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>>>>
>>>> We're on at the top, 8pm central.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tried to take a look, but cannot figure out what you mean by "We're
>>> on at the top, 8pm central."
>>
>> I took that to mean that they may not be the only act showcased during
>> that hour, but that they're on first, at the "top" of the hour. Hard
>> to say for sure though because the website doesn't have a very good
>> calendar of events (at least I couldn't find one).
>
> Biggest thing to note is the dude's indeed a "player" if he's running
> with this crowd ... not garage band stuff, she was recently a nationally
> top pick "under 30" singer/songwriter.
Indeed he is. Show is just starting.
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Mike Marlow wrote:
> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
>> you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>>
>> http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>>
>> Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>>
>> I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>>
>> We're on at the top, 8pm central.
>>
>
> Tried to take a look, but cannot figure out what you mean by "We're on at
> the top, 8pm central."
>
Sorry you couldn't listen, man.
I meant at the "top of the broadcast" or first, as soon as the show
starts.
They have some buttons at that link for getting the player going
depending on what plug-in, or whatever, you're using.
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-MIKE-
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Steve Turner wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
>>> you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>>>
>>> http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>>>
>>> Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>>>
>>> I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>>>
>>> We're on at the top, 8pm central.
>>>
>>
>> Tried to take a look, but cannot figure out what you mean by "We're on
>> at the top, 8pm central."
>
> I took that to mean that they may not be the only act showcased during
> that hour, but that they're on first, at the "top" of the hour. Hard to
> say for sure though because the website doesn't have a very good
> calendar of events (at least I couldn't find one).
>
Yeah, their website sucks, but I linked to that page because their live
webcast links are right there.
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-MIKE-
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Swingman wrote:
> Biggest thing to note is the dude's indeed a "player" if he's running
> with this crowd ... not garage band stuff, she was recently a nationally
> top pick "under 30" singer/songwriter.
>
Thanks.... I'm a better drummer than woodworker.
Although I'm not sure what that really says. :-)
I think she's very talented and I love playing for her.
She's getting a lot of attention, including some upcoming opportunities
to get some songs on film & television.
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-MIKE-
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Swingman wrote:
> Mike Radcliffe, eh?
>
> Well done. Your drumming was spot on ... just what the songs called for!
>
> Impeccable!
>
> <Man, I can't believe how "out of the Nashvegas scene" I am these days!>
>
Thank you for the compliment.
There's a lot happening in Nashville that's not country. Thank God. :-)
Little known fact.... over half the major label albums produced in this
country are produced in Nashville.
(that stat is a several years old, but it makes the point)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Steve Turner wrote:
>> Biggest thing to note is the dude's indeed a "player" if he's running
>> with this crowd ... not garage band stuff, she was recently a
>> nationally top pick "under 30" singer/songwriter.
>
> Indeed he is. Show is just starting.
>
I think my best playing was on that first song, huh Steve? ;-)
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-MIKE-
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-MIKE- wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>>> Biggest thing to note is the dude's indeed a "player" if he's running
>>> with this crowd ... not garage band stuff, she was recently a
>>> nationally top pick "under 30" singer/songwriter.
>>
>> Indeed he is. Show is just starting.
>>
>
> I think my best playing was on that first song, huh Steve? ;-)
I kept waiting for the drums to come crashing in! :-)
Reminds me of a old King Crimson album where one song was a live guitar/bass/violin
improvisation, during which Bill Bruford sat at the kit in complete silence. Interestingly,
he was credited as a writer on that tune, his performance being one of "admirable restraint".
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Swingman wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the compliment.
>
> Did you make the snare that was used on the show? Very nice snare sound
> throughout.
>
No, but yes it was nice. I brought one just in case, if fit her music
so I kept it.
It was the headliner's drummer's.
For most radio shows, you end up sharing a kit because of time
constraints. I like to have as few things to swap as possible, to make
the changeover as quick as can be.
The drum was a deep brass shell... just a "Black Beauty" clone, if
you've heard of that snare. I'm sure you've seen or heard one, even if
you don't recall, from your days.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Steve Turner wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> Steve Turner wrote:
>>>> Biggest thing to note is the dude's indeed a "player" if he's
>>>> running with this crowd ... not garage band stuff, she was recently
>>>> a nationally top pick "under 30" singer/songwriter.
>>>
>>> Indeed he is. Show is just starting.
>>>
>>
>> I think my best playing was on that first song, huh Steve? ;-)
>
> I kept waiting for the drums to come crashing in! :-)
>
> Reminds me of a old King Crimson album where one song was a live
> guitar/bass/violin improvisation, during which Bill Bruford sat at the
> kit in complete silence. Interestingly, he was credited as a writer on
> that tune, his performance being one of "admirable restraint".
>
That's funny you bring that up. If this had been a TV show, I would've
felt very uncomfortable. We sat up there for all her acoustic songs...
those 3 in the middle of the set.
I was literally boxed in, behind the drums. The drums were cornered in,
and I had to climb over amps and peddle steel guitars and whatnot....
very awkward. I was *not* going to try that during the show, in a
darkout. :-)
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-MIKE- wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> Steve Turner wrote:
>>>>> Biggest thing to note is the dude's indeed a "player" if he's
>>>>> running with this crowd ... not garage band stuff, she was recently
>>>>> a nationally top pick "under 30" singer/songwriter.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed he is. Show is just starting.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think my best playing was on that first song, huh Steve? ;-)
>>
>> I kept waiting for the drums to come crashing in! :-)
>>
>> Reminds me of a old King Crimson album where one song was a live
>> guitar/bass/violin improvisation, during which Bill Bruford sat at the
>> kit in complete silence. Interestingly, he was credited as a writer
>> on that tune, his performance being one of "admirable restraint".
>>
>
> That's funny you bring that up. If this had been a TV show, I would've
> felt very uncomfortable. We sat up there for all her acoustic songs...
> those 3 in the middle of the set.
>
> I was literally boxed in, behind the drums. The drums were cornered in,
> and I had to climb over amps and peddle steel guitars and whatnot....
> very awkward. I was *not* going to try that during the show, in a
> darkout. :-)
I was lucky enough to see Kansas open up for Yes in St. Louis (about 6 years ago I think)
after their original violinist had rejoined, and as they prepared to play one of their
acoustic numbers (it may have been "Dust In The Wind"; don't remember) I saw their drummer
(Phil Ehart) stand up from his throne, then sit back down facing away from the crowd. They
dropped the lights so that the performers up front were the only ones illuminated, and even
though the drum kit was dark, we were only about 100 feet away and we could still see Phil
sitting there, motionless, with his head bowed and his hands on his knees. For some reason
I was fascinated by that, and I think I watched him the whole time without even paying
attention to the song!
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Steve Turner wrote:
> For some
> reason I was fascinated by that, and I think I watched him the whole
> time without even paying attention to the song!
>
lol! That's always my fear.
Like I'll forget where I am and start picking my nose. :-)
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Swingman wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> Swingman wrote:
>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the compliment.
>>>
>>> Did you make the snare that was used on the show? Very nice snare
>>> sound throughout.
>>>
>>
>> No, but yes it was nice. I brought one just in case, if fit her music
>> so I kept it.
>> It was the headliner's drummer's.
>>
>> For most radio shows, you end up sharing a kit because of time
>> constraints. I like to have as few things to swap as possible, to make
>> the changeover as quick as can be.
>
> I guarantee the sound man was grateful for that! :)
>
>> The drum was a deep brass shell... just a "Black Beauty" clone, if
>> you've heard of that snare. I'm sure you've seen or heard one, even if
>> you don't recall, from your days.
>
> Sure have. Not a drummer, but a student of drums, of all kinds, out of
> sheer economic necessity ... if I had a dollar for every kit I've
> mic'ed, both studio and live, I'd be a rich man.
>
> The drum sound on a record is the most important, and challenging, task
> a recording engineer faces, regardless of type of music. On "acoustic"
> music like Irish, Celtic, Renaissance, Early Music, Salsa, etc., the
> ability to make the indigenous drum, like bodhran or doumbek, sound on a
> recording like it does to the player, can bring in beaucoup bucks. BTDT :)
I agree with Karl that the snare sound was great (I expected nothing
less from Mr. Radcliffe), but the sound coming from the toms was pretty
awesome as well. Mike, any words about the tuning of the kit? Were you
free to tune it the way you wanted it, with the next guy in line doing
the same, or were you kinda held hostage by how the headlining drummer
wanted things to be?
I usually *hate* being in an opening act situation and having to play
somebody else's drums, especially if I have no control over the tuning
or positioning. A fairly recent gig comes to mind where I used the
headliner's beautiful DW kit; luckily it had the sizes and layout
similar to what I prefer, but the tuning was AWFUL. He gave me the go
ahead to change the tuning, and I'll bet I cranked every tension rod on
every tom at least a full turn before the drums had any kind of tone or
volume at all. The drummer was running the sound during our set, and I
think he left them that way when it was his turn to play. :-)
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Steve Turner wrote:
> I agree with Karl that the snare sound was great (I expected nothing
> less from Mr. Radcliffe), but the sound coming from the toms was pretty
> awesome as well. Mike, any words about the tuning of the kit? Were you
> free to tune it the way you wanted it, with the next guy in line doing
> the same, or were you kinda held hostage by how the headlining drummer
> wanted things to be?
>
Were you there, Steve? :-)
The guy sort of apologized for have worn out heads. (They weren't bad
and weren't anywhere even near the same dented up, stretched out
ballpark as most club house kits, here.) He said, "Go ahead and tune 'em
up the way you like, I'd love to hear what you come up with." He was
very accommodating and cool about sharing his kit....
...which was a Keller Kustom (Steve knows that inside joke) out of Utah
called "Tree." Same shells and hardware all the other guys are using,
but he does *really* cool, aged, vintage finishes. This kit looked like
it came right out of a Civil War museum... in a good way.
So... yeah, I tuned them a bit. Couldn't get as deep as I'd like, since
they were 10 & 14, but when I heard him playing, they sounded great in
the house. I'm *really* glad to hear you say they sounded good on the
radio.
> I usually *hate* being in an opening act situation and having to play
> somebody else's drums, especially if I have no control over the tuning
> or positioning. A fairly recent gig comes to mind where I used the
> headliner's beautiful DW kit; luckily it had the sizes and layout
> similar to what I prefer, but the tuning was AWFUL. He gave me the go
> ahead to change the tuning, and I'll bet I cranked every tension rod on
> every tom at least a full turn before the drums had any kind of tone or
> volume at all. The drummer was running the sound during our set, and I
> think he left them that way when it was his turn to play. :-)
>
I never got on that DW boat. They always sound tubby to me.
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Mike,
If you need a studio musician, check out this kid. He lives in
Nashville and he does his own mixing and writes his own songs. He's
best on backup harmonica, and he plays guitar, violion, piano,
keyboard, and banjo.
http://www.myspace.com/psychedelichobo
On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:39:09 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>With all the music recording discussion, lately, I figured I'd invite
>you guys to hear what I do when I'm not making sawdust.
>
>http://www.lightning100.com/listen_live.php
>
>Sunday, 10/4, 8-10pm, Central Time.
>
>I'm playing drums for Nashville singer/songwriter, Amy Stroup.
>
>We're on at the top, 8pm central.