cyrille de brebisson wrote:
> hello,
>
> This might be a stupid question, but when creating a 2*4 stud wall, how many
> nails are suposed to hold the 2*4 to the top or bottom plate? 1 or 2? is
> this in the code?
>
> Second simple question: does any one knows the setback between a building
> (garage) and power and phone lines?
>
> thanks, cyrille
>
>
Two nails if nailing through the plate into the stud, three if
toenailing. Fasteners should be 12s or above for through nailing
and eights for toenailing (this may vary according to local
building codes).
Setback between building and power lines? I don't understand
that question. If there is a power line, then there is an
easement. If there is an easement, then you can't build there.
Stay out of the easements and you will be fine.
--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
HerHusband wrote:
>>>This might be a stupid question, but when creating a 2*4 stud wall,
>>>how many nails are suposed to hold the 2*4 to the top or bottom
>>>plate? 1 or 2? is this in the code?
>
>
>>Two nails if nailing through the plate into the stud, three if
>>toenailing. Fasteners should be 12s or above for through nailing
>>and eights for toenailing (this may vary according to local
>>building codes).
>
>
> Just as an addendum, use three nails through the plate if using 2x6
> studs.
>
>
>>>Second simple question: does any one knows the setback between a
>>>building (garage) and power and phone lines?
>
>
>>Setback between building and power lines? I don't understand
>>that question. If there is a power line, then there is an
>>easement. If there is an easement, then you can't build there.
>>Stay out of the easements and you will be fine.
>
>
> Actually, there are many code requirements for clearances to electrical
> wires.
>
> Basically, the wire has to be more than 3 feet from any window, door, or
> the side of a deck or balcony (so you can't reach out and touch the
> wire).
>
> The wire has to be more than 10 feet above a deck, balcony, or other area
> only accessable to pedestrians (so you can't reach up and touch the
> wire).
>
> The wire has to 12 feet above a driveway, yard, etc., but has to be 18
> feet above a roadway.
>
> The wire has to be more than 22 feet above a swimming pool.
>
> The wire has to be more than 8 feet above a roof that is less than 4/12
> pitch, but only needs to be 3 feet above a roof that is 4/12 pitch or
> greater. There is an exception that allows you to go as far as 4 feet
> horizontally over an eave, as close as 18" to the roof. This basically
> just allows for an incoming overhead service feed.
>
> Of course, your local electric utility may have different requirements
> than the standard codes spell out. You may want to call them and check if
> the wire proximity is going to be an issue.
>
> On the other hand, if this is new wiring, just go underground. It's out
> of sight, won't be affected by weather or falling trees, and no risk of
> accidently touching it with ladders or kites.
>
> Anthony
I thought he was talking about power lines. He didn't say
anything about a drop. Do they allow you to build in power line
easements in your area?
--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
"cyrille de brebisson" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> hello,
>
> Thanks for all the answers... but as always, answers do bring more
> questions
>:-(
>
> - for the toe nailed nails... the answer was 3 naisl. I assume that
> this means 2 nails on one side and 1 on the other? am I correct?
One on each side, and one on the end. If you've got the space, you might
put one more "naisl" in.
> - for the easements now: is there a difference between Power cables
> (ie: electricity) and phone/cable lines?
That's something your local utility/buildings department would have to
answer. Access to the lines is a major concern no matter if it's phone
or power. This is true for both stopping someone from "playing
squirrel" or allowing someone to actually work on them.
> Right now, the plans call for a phone cable 10'10" away from the roof
> (at a 9.8/12 pitch), but I would like to put some dormers which would
> bring the cable around 5 feet ways from the window.... (but still
> above them)...
>
> regards, cyrille
>
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"cyrille de brebisson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> hello,
>
> Thanks for all the answers... but as always, answers do bring more
> questions :-(
>
> - for the toe nailed nails... the answer was 3 naisl. I assume that this
> means 2 nails on one side and 1 on the other? am I correct?
>
> - for the easements now: is there a difference between Power cables (ie:
> electricity) and phone/cable lines?
>
> Right now, the plans call for a phone cable 10'10" away from the roof (at
> a 9.8/12 pitch), but I would like to put some dormers which would bring
> the cable around 5 feet ways from the window.... (but still above them)...
>
You keep mixing terms here. An easement is a right of way that the power
company, or phone company, etc. has on your property. Typically by the
road, but not always. Clearances to the house are a different thing. You
need to use the appropriate term to avoid confusion.
You need to check with your local authorities regarding clearances. This
stuff varies by locale. Your power company will provide you with specs for
their lines. Your local building inspector can probably provide you with
comprehensive specs.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Robert Allison" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I thought he was talking about power lines. He didn't say anything about
> a drop. Do they allow you to build in power line easements in your area?
>
I suspect he was using the term loosely and not suggesting he was going to
build on the easement.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Robert Allison" wrote
> I thought he was talking about power lines. He didn't say
> anything about a drop. Do they allow you to build in power line
> easements in your area?
LOL He also didn't say anything about 2 x 6's ... around here you sometime
you get more answer than question. ;)
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
Not just height restrictions next to a power line, but height
restrictions within zoning requirements. A friend of mine had to get a
variance just to add one foot of height to his garage so he could jack
it up and put a short concrete wall under it.
If you are in an area where you even have to ask the question, better
to check with the building department now than to have to tear it down
later.
Pete Stanaitis
------------------------
<snip>
>
> What Robert said ... but it is also important to check for building height
> restrictions next to power line easements, as well as possible encroachment
> of eaves and overhangs. Best to check with your local building services
> department.
>
"Mike Marlow" wrote
> You keep mixing terms here. An easement is a right of way <snip>
Probably a legal difference in different parts of the country, but around
here a "right of way" is a specific type of "easement".
Sorry, Mike ... seems the temptation for nits to get picked around here is
irresistible. Beside, the devil made me do it! :)
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
>> This might be a stupid question, but when creating a 2*4 stud wall,
>> how many nails are suposed to hold the 2*4 to the top or bottom
>> plate? 1 or 2? is this in the code?
> Two nails if nailing through the plate into the stud, three if
> toenailing. Fasteners should be 12s or above for through nailing
> and eights for toenailing (this may vary according to local
> building codes).
Just as an addendum, use three nails through the plate if using 2x6
studs.
>> Second simple question: does any one knows the setback between a
>> building (garage) and power and phone lines?
> Setback between building and power lines? I don't understand
> that question. If there is a power line, then there is an
> easement. If there is an easement, then you can't build there.
> Stay out of the easements and you will be fine.
Actually, there are many code requirements for clearances to electrical
wires.
Basically, the wire has to be more than 3 feet from any window, door, or
the side of a deck or balcony (so you can't reach out and touch the
wire).
The wire has to be more than 10 feet above a deck, balcony, or other area
only accessable to pedestrians (so you can't reach up and touch the
wire).
The wire has to 12 feet above a driveway, yard, etc., but has to be 18
feet above a roadway.
The wire has to be more than 22 feet above a swimming pool.
The wire has to be more than 8 feet above a roof that is less than 4/12
pitch, but only needs to be 3 feet above a roof that is 4/12 pitch or
greater. There is an exception that allows you to go as far as 4 feet
horizontally over an eave, as close as 18" to the roof. This basically
just allows for an incoming overhead service feed.
Of course, your local electric utility may have different requirements
than the standard codes spell out. You may want to call them and check if
the wire proximity is going to be an issue.
On the other hand, if this is new wiring, just go underground. It's out
of sight, won't be affected by weather or falling trees, and no risk of
accidently touching it with ladders or kites.
Anthony
Robert,
> I thought he was talking about power lines. He didn't say
> anything about a drop. Do they allow you to build in power line
> easements in your area?
Yes, we're both speaking about power lines.
Around here anyway, it wouldn't really be considered an easement if say a
powerline comes from a pole at the road overhead to the roof of the house.
If I wanted to build a shed or other building between the power pole and
the house, I shouldn't have any problems as long as the distances I
mentioned are observed. Of course, it would always be wise to contact the
power company before you start building just to see if they have their own
requirements.
What would be considered an easement is where the powerlines and other
utilities run along the road. But that's usually built-in to the zoning
setbacks anyway.
Again, the wisest thing is to check with the building department and
electric utility. They will have more appropriate advice than anything I
have to say.
Anthony
> - for the easements now: is there a difference between Power cables
> (ie: electricity) and phone/cable lines?
I don't know if it varies by region, but we don't have specific power or
phone easements. They're simply referred to as utility easements. They're
free to run power, phone, cable TV, etc.
> Right now, the plans call for a phone cable 10'10" away from the roof
> (at a 9.8/12 pitch), but I would like to put some dormers which would
> bring the cable around 5 feet ways from the window.... (but still
> above them)...
I'm not aware of any restrictions for phone cables, as they are generally
low voltage anyway. I wouldn't want to stick one in my mouth, but if you
accidently grab the phone wire you're unlikely to be harmed. The biggest
side effect would be loss of your phone service.
But again, call the phone company if you have concerns.
Anthony
hello,
Thanks for all the answers... but as always, answers do bring more questions
:-(
- for the toe nailed nails... the answer was 3 naisl. I assume that this
means 2 nails on one side and 1 on the other? am I correct?
- for the easements now: is there a difference between Power cables (ie:
electricity) and phone/cable lines?
Right now, the plans call for a phone cable 10'10" away from the roof (at a
9.8/12 pitch), but I would like to put some dormers which would bring the
cable around 5 feet ways from the window.... (but still above them)...
regards, cyrille
"HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>> This might be a stupid question, but when creating a 2*4 stud wall,
>>> how many nails are suposed to hold the 2*4 to the top or bottom
>>> plate? 1 or 2? is this in the code?
>
>> Two nails if nailing through the plate into the stud, three if
>> toenailing. Fasteners should be 12s or above for through nailing
>> and eights for toenailing (this may vary according to local
>> building codes).
>
> Just as an addendum, use three nails through the plate if using 2x6
> studs.
>
>>> Second simple question: does any one knows the setback between a
>>> building (garage) and power and phone lines?
>
>> Setback between building and power lines? I don't understand
>> that question. If there is a power line, then there is an
>> easement. If there is an easement, then you can't build there.
>> Stay out of the easements and you will be fine.
>
> Actually, there are many code requirements for clearances to electrical
> wires.
>
> Basically, the wire has to be more than 3 feet from any window, door, or
> the side of a deck or balcony (so you can't reach out and touch the
> wire).
>
> The wire has to be more than 10 feet above a deck, balcony, or other area
> only accessable to pedestrians (so you can't reach up and touch the
> wire).
>
> The wire has to 12 feet above a driveway, yard, etc., but has to be 18
> feet above a roadway.
>
> The wire has to be more than 22 feet above a swimming pool.
>
> The wire has to be more than 8 feet above a roof that is less than 4/12
> pitch, but only needs to be 3 feet above a roof that is 4/12 pitch or
> greater. There is an exception that allows you to go as far as 4 feet
> horizontally over an eave, as close as 18" to the roof. This basically
> just allows for an incoming overhead service feed.
>
> Of course, your local electric utility may have different requirements
> than the standard codes spell out. You may want to call them and check if
> the wire proximity is going to be an issue.
>
> On the other hand, if this is new wiring, just go underground. It's out
> of sight, won't be affected by weather or falling trees, and no risk of
> accidently touching it with ladders or kites.
>
> Anthony
"cyrille de brebisson" wrote in message
> hello,
>
> This might be a stupid question, but when creating a 2*4 stud wall, how
many
> nails are suposed to hold the 2*4 to the top or bottom plate? 1 or 2? is
> this in the code?
>
> Second simple question: does any one knows the setback between a building
> (garage) and power and phone lines?
What Robert said ... but it is also important to check for building height
restrictions next to power line easements, as well as possible encroachment
of eaves and overhangs. Best to check with your local building services
department.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)