Black and Decker cordless drill- real piece of junk!

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Black and Decker (Versa Pak) cordless electric drill.
>
> The gear system in the drill is great. Unfortunately, the electric
> motor is SEALED and unservicable. The carbon bushings are not spring
> loaded but are mounted on flimsy metal posts which quickly wear out and
> break off- so the bushings end up falling into the motor and ruin it.
>
> The motor is a real piece of crap in an otherwise well built drill!
>
> Misterfact@ yahoo.com
>

You knew the job was dangerous when you took it!
Dave

Older B & D medium duty and heavy duty tools changed color (black to
yellow) and became the first line of Dewalt along with the Elu line of
tools that B & D bought out. B & D 's low grade tools were for use by
the homeowner. Industry and the construction pro's used the higher
grade tools. B & D industrial quality tools are as good as milwaukees.
The Dewalt name is used to market the higher grade tools to the public
after the B & D name was associated with the low grade tools. I have
their good tools and homeowner tools. Some of their homeowner tools are
O.K. . If you buy a drill and only drill a couple of holes with it you
don't need proffessional quality.

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> Delivered and installed the now infamous spice rack and have some
> trays/parts leftover ... SWMBO is jealous and wants one, but there is no
> place left to put it, not to mention that she wouldn't know a spice if it
> bit her.

Ouuhhh.. she is not looking over your shoulder is she? ;~)


>
> If I do anymore SR's, it won't be without a 23-ga pinner but the Bostitch
> appears universally backordered and, just as with Rome, all roads on the
> net
> now lead to Amazon.

You and I should drive over to Empire tools and see what they have in that
category. 6 months ago they were getting ready to move into their huge new
store. They have ALL the good brands.

>
>>I have begun a tool box, 56" tall, 42"
>> wide, and 24" deep.
>
> Sounds like it could double as a casket for twin midgets. ;)

I am sick and tired of piling new tool on top of the pile on top of my old
roll around and chest. It will be a 10 drawer unit on casters.

>
> With that bandsaw of your'n, this has got to be a veneered piece, right? A
> family heirloom to be?

Sadly, no. CHEAP China 3/4" Birch caucus and Oak face frames front and back
build like the cabinets we built for your kitchens. I picked up some KV 20"
full extension self closing drawer slides today at Cornerstone for $84.00
for 10. I though that was a good price. I almost bought them from
Woodworkers Hardware last night on sale for $104.00 for 10.
It will not be purdy but it should be strong.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>
> LOL ... have inherited the "dispose of at your discretion" rights to three
> or four of them, in unopened packages.
>
> Have tried repeatedly, and can't even give them away.


I can attest to that statement. LOL

What are you working on these days? I have begun a tool box, 56" tall, 42"
wide, and 24" deep.

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > Black and Decker (Versa Pak) cordless electric drill.
> >
> > The gear system in the drill is great. Unfortunately, the electric
> > motor is SEALED and unservicable. The carbon bushings are not spring
> > loaded but are mounted on flimsy metal posts which quickly wear out and
> > break off- so the bushings end up falling into the motor and ruin it.
> >
> > The motor is a real piece of crap in an otherwise well built drill!
>
> LOL ... have inherited the "dispose of at your discretion" rights to three
> or four of them, in unopened packages.
>
> Have tried repeatedly, and can't even give them away.
>
>
B&D, a long time ago, made some good stuff. Now, I avoid anything with
that name on it like the plague. What scares me is that they own Dewalt
and I think they bought PC. Man, I sure hope they don't screw those up,
too!

"Leon" wrote in message

> What are you working on these days?

In between at the moment, but the shop could sure stand a good cleaning.

Delivered and installed the now infamous spice rack and have some
trays/parts leftover ... SWMBO is jealous and wants one, but there is no
place left to put it, not to mention that she wouldn't know a spice if it
bit her.

If I do anymore SR's, it won't be without a 23-ga pinner but the Bostitch
appears universally backordered and, just as with Rome, all roads on the net
now lead to Amazon.

>I have begun a tool box, 56" tall, 42"
> wide, and 24" deep.

Sounds like it could double as a casket for twin midgets. ;)

With that bandsaw of your'n, this has got to be a veneered piece, right? A
family heirloom to be?

... inquiring minds.

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[email protected] wrote:
> Black and Decker (Versa Pak) cordless electric drill.
>
> The gear system in the drill is great. Unfortunately, the electric
> motor is SEALED and unservicable. The carbon bushings are not spring
> loaded but are mounted on flimsy metal posts which quickly wear out and
> break off- so the bushings end up falling into the motor and ruin it.
>
> The motor is a real piece of crap in an otherwise well built drill!
>
> Misterfact@ yahoo.com
>
G'day all,
I would have to agree with the sentiments, that B&D is junk, however,
having said that the exception to the rule is a 12v drill I purchased
about 8 years ago. I think it is called an "Enforcer". It still goes
strong and the battery still charges and holds it power. There is a bit
of play in the chuck but nothing significant. and yes, I have used it
more than once, actually given it a bit of a hiding over the years.

Some times a gem sneaks past the inspection line ;)

regards
John

<[email protected]> wrote in message
> Black and Decker (Versa Pak) cordless electric drill.
>
> The gear system in the drill is great. Unfortunately, the electric
> motor is SEALED and unservicable. The carbon bushings are not spring
> loaded but are mounted on flimsy metal posts which quickly wear out and
> break off- so the bushings end up falling into the motor and ruin it.
>
> The motor is a real piece of crap in an otherwise well built drill!

LOL ... have inherited the "dispose of at your discretion" rights to three
or four of them, in unopened packages.

Have tried repeatedly, and can't even give them away.

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"Tex" <tex@my_isp.net> wrote in message
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>>
> ... didn't know that it had been that long. I have some of their
> (DeWalt) stuff and I like it.

IMHO, and IIRC DeWalt was only the bigger tools and when B&D went after the
toaster business DeWalt started offering the smaller power tools to fill the
void of a decent tool offering.

"Tex" <tex@my_isp.net> wrote in message
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>>
> B&D, a long time ago, made some good stuff. Now, I avoid anything with
> that name on it like the plague. What scares me is that they own Dewalt
> and I think they bought PC. Man, I sure hope they don't screw those up,
> too!

Well, if you don't consider DeWalt screwed up now there is no reason to
think that B&D would screw them up in the future. B&D and DeWalt have been
associated with each other long before the 80's.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Tex" <tex@my_isp.net> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >>
> > B&D, a long time ago, made some good stuff. Now, I avoid anything with
> > that name on it like the plague. What scares me is that they own Dewalt
> > and I think they bought PC. Man, I sure hope they don't screw those up,
> > too!
>
> Well, if you don't consider DeWalt screwed up now there is no reason to
> think that B&D would screw them up in the future. B&D and DeWalt have been
> associated with each other long before the 80's.
>
>
>
... didn't know that it had been that long. I have some of their
(DeWalt) stuff and I like it.