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"Sweet Sawdust"

28/03/2005 9:53 AM

Dust collector

After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool houses I
have decided to buy the following dust collector:
Grizzly 10292z
Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks for any
insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC 2000.
The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.


This topic has 14 replies

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"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

28/03/2005 1:18 PM

That Grizzly really sucks. What I mean to say is it works well, just
couldn't resist.

I can guarentee that the cheap metal braces that hold up bag unit (the
only silver parts in the picture). do give out after a while. We have
one that was welded back once and is broke again. We'll probably just
rig something up. We have it hooked up to a Unisaw full time and open a
gate for a RAS and sliding bevel saw along the same wall. It works
great.

It getes emptied a few times week so maybe your braces will last longer
but they are a weak design. I'd still buy it for the price.

Finally, why did you ruloe out the Jet and Delta?

BW

WJ

[email protected] (Joe "Woody" Woodpecker)

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 28/03/2005 1:18 PM

30/03/2005 10:19 AM

I have a 1 hp generic. It works using one tool at a time, however I
have all of my tools hooked up and on blast gates with automatic remote
control on/off operation. I hook it up to any tool, including the
table saw, and once that power tool is turned on, the DC comes on until
the power tool is turned off. Yes, I finally built the dust collection
hood for my Delta 10" open stand table saw. And yes guys, it uses a
2-1//2" dust collection hose. If you are interested in how I did
this,you can e-mail me. I hope to have pictures on my site "How My Shop
Works" for those who are interested in dust collection using a 2-1/2"
collection hose.

--
Woody


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"TheNewGuy"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

28/03/2005 2:13 PM


Sweet, can you give a breakdown on your decision making? I'm leaning
towards the PSI - what edged you to Griz (which I've never considered,
btw). Why did you rule out Jet & Delta?

Thanks,
Chris

Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool
houses I
> have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> Grizzly 10292z
> Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks
for any
> insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC
2000.
> The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.

bb

"bc"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

28/03/2005 3:36 PM


Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool
houses I
> have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> Grizzly 10292z
> Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks
for any
> insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC
2000.
> The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.

Before you buy you really ought to read Bill Pentz's cyclone dust
collector web site. The man has done a ton of research and I think
you'll change your mind about the Grizzly after reading. I know I wish
I would have read his stuff before buying mine. The web address is:
http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
Good luck. BC

Ss

"Sam"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

28/03/2005 7:15 PM

Go for it. I too have one, my first also,


"No" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I have it and I am generally happy. Its my 1st DC so I have nothing to
> compare it to. I do want a remote starter though. Right now I just hook it
> up to whichever tool I am using. I really need to equip everything with
> blast gates (Automatic would be nice)
>
> "Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool houses
I
> > have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> > Grizzly 10292z
> > Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks for
> > any
> > insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC
2000.
> > The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.
> >
> >
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

29/03/2005 7:10 AM

Get the benefits of both in one unit.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064NGSS/qid=1112098094/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-9896919-6347328?v=glance&s=hi



"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8X22e.115090$Ze3.21906@attbi_s51...
> The average person doesn't have the big bucks needed to shell out for a
> cyclone system. One could buy 2 to 3 Grizz's for the price of a good
> cyclone system.
>

AV

"Andrew V"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

29/03/2005 6:53 AM


"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool houses I
> have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> Grizzly 10292z
> Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks for
> any
> insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC 2000.
> The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.
>
>
I just picked up a ShopFox 1.5 hp with 30 micron bags from my local dealer,
it was $179. Then I ordered a filter up grade kit from Wynn Environmental
for $118(poly spun filter washable). It took about 10 min. to install the
kit and it works great for under $300. All this info came from Bill Pentz
site on dust collection. I may go for a cyclone in the future but it doesn't
seem practical when I'm still hooking up 1 machine at a time .

Andrew

cb

charlie b

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

29/03/2005 12:21 PM

George wrote:
>
> Get the benefits of both in one unit.
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064NGSS/qid=1112098094/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-9896919-6347328?v=glance&s=hi
>

Consider lifting the motor etc. off that metal garbage can
in order to empty it. Now figure out where you're going
to put the motor etc. while you empty the metal garbage
can. Now figure the cost of a chiropractor. . .

If it isn't easy to empty the can it won't get emptied
as often as it should. When it doesn't get emptied as
often as it should the impeller will take some abuse
and the cartridge filter will clog. When the cartridge
filter clogs . . .

> "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:8X22e.115090$Ze3.21906@attbi_s51...
> > The average person doesn't have the big bucks needed to shell out for a
> > cyclone system. One could buy 2 to 3 Grizz's for the price of a good
> > cyclone system.

You need a pickup truck so you buy 5 motorcycles?
If the thing doesn't do what you need it to do then
having two or three of them doesn't buy you anything
even if they're cheap to purchase.

When you're twenty you don't do anything that
creates or even stirs up dust.

When you're thirty you "don't need no stinkin'
dust collector".

When you're forty you know you should probably
get a dust collector - but house payments, kids'
college etc. ...

When you're fifty you're putting in 50 and 60
hour weeks so there's no time for making sawdust.

When you're sixty five you've got all the time
in the world and know know the lungs won't
last forever and plonk ot some dough to get
a dust collector that'll extend the useful
lifespan of the lung power you've got left.

charlie bGeorge wrote:
>
> Get the benefits of both in one unit.
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064NGSS/qid=1112098094/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-9896919-6347328?v=glance&s=hi
>
> "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:8X22e.115090$Ze3.21906@attbi_s51...
> > The average person doesn't have the big bucks needed to shell out for a
> > cyclone system. One could buy 2 to 3 Grizz's for the price of a good
> > cyclone system.
> >

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

29/03/2005 3:35 PM


"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George wrote:
> >
> > Get the benefits of both in one unit.
> >
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064NGSS/qid=1112098094/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-9896919-6347328?v=glance&s=hi
> >
>
> Consider lifting the motor etc. off that metal garbage can
> in order to empty it. Now figure out where you're going
> to put the motor etc. while you empty the metal garbage
> can. Now figure the cost of a chiropractor. . .
>
> If it isn't easy to empty the can it won't get emptied
> as often as it should. When it doesn't get emptied as
> often as it should the impeller will take some abuse
> and the cartridge filter will clog. When the cartridge
> filter clogs . . .

Been doing it for a dozen years with my Delta, and I consider myself as
lazy, if not lazier than the next guy. Helps to have two cans, so you move
from one to the other, though.

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

28/03/2005 10:24 PM


"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool houses I
> have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> Grizzly 10292z
> Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks for
any
> insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC 2000.
> The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.
>


I bought the Grizz and love it! I added a remote control switch rather than
automatic blast gates, mainly due to cost and need. Love that also .


Just MHO,

Vic

Ss

"Sam"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

29/03/2005 2:19 AM

The average person doesn't have the big bucks needed to shell out for a
cyclone system. One could buy 2 to 3 Grizz's for the price of a good
cyclone system.


"bc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> > After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool
> houses I
> > have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> > Grizzly 10292z
> > Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks
> for any
> > insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC
> 2000.
> > The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.
>
> Before you buy you really ought to read Bill Pentz's cyclone dust
> collector web site. The man has done a ton of research and I think
> you'll change your mind about the Grizzly after reading. I know I wish
> I would have read his stuff before buying mine. The web address is:
> http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
> Good luck. BC
>

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

28/03/2005 11:36 PM


"TheNewGuy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> Sweet, can you give a breakdown on your decision making? I'm leaning
> towards the PSI - what edged you to Griz (which I've never considered,
> btw). Why did you rule out Jet & Delta?

Price, for me, drove me to Griz.
A DC, in my mind, doesn't call for the highest level of Quality Control.

Nn

"No"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

28/03/2005 2:01 PM

I have it and I am generally happy. Its my 1st DC so I have nothing to
compare it to. I do want a remote starter though. Right now I just hook it
up to whichever tool I am using. I really need to equip everything with
blast gates (Automatic would be nice)

"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool houses I
> have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> Grizzly 10292z
> Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks for
> any
> insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC 2000.
> The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.
>
>

SS

"Sweet Sawdust"

in reply to "Sweet Sawdust" on 28/03/2005 9:53 AM

29/03/2005 8:31 AM

Reasons for ruling out Jet and Delta were that they had a lower CFM and
static pressure and higher price, both have dealers that are over 100 miles
from me so service and warranty help is nonexistent. The machines I have
purchased from delta that needed service are now scrap metal due to
nonexistent support, Grizzly has always provided me with excellent support.
The Jet was tempting but cost was a little high. When I called PSI to check
on the machine the tech there gave me little or no information but only
wanted to sell me a $200 higher machine, left a bad first impression. The
Grizzly tech went over layout and usage of machine, problems and possible
solutions and upgrades that I could make at a later date if needed. While
the tech from PSI was probably right in his appraisal of what I need the
Grizzly tech was more in line with what I could afford and how to use the
equipment now and upgrade later as needed.
When I looked at the specs and costs for the machines Grizzly, PSI and
Harbor freight ($150 for 2 hp machine similar specs to Grizzly) came out on
top followed by jet and then Delta. When I took service (from my own
experience and from reputations) Grizzly,PSI and Jet topped the list.When I
put cost+specs+service+personal feelings Grizzly came out on top slightly
above PSI (HF sort of fell off the page there somewhere) Maybe not the most
scientific way to do things but it's my way.
"TheNewGuy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Sweet, can you give a breakdown on your decision making? I'm leaning
> towards the PSI - what edged you to Griz (which I've never considered,
> btw). Why did you rule out Jet & Delta?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> > After much soul searching , speck reading and lurking around tool
> houses I
> > have decided to buy the following dust collector:
> > Grizzly 10292z
> > Unless some one can come up with a good reason to avoid it. Thanks
> for any
> > insight in this matter. Alternate Dust collector choice was PSI DC
> 2000.
> > The Jet and Delta offerings were rejected early on into the research.
>


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