Please, no flames for some criticism. I like his show...
I'm usually on my way to work at 7:30 in the morning, but happened to
stay home today. Great stuff, cool project of a glass table with two
supports with a 15" radius, held together with 3 copper pipes. I
liked most of his methods.
I did cringe, however, when he was running these slats through the
jointer without a push stick. Once slip, and he's going to be missing
some fingers. I also didn't notice any hearing protection.
Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
wondering if he's always smiling like this.
Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Counter culture... I don't think so, this guy is an accomplished artist
> with many of his pieces in museums around the country.
Galleries are not museums.
Kudos to him for the explanation of how a piece of his got into the
Hawaii museum. It was bought by someone else and donated. An old
technique that is almost always masked. The variation that allows anyone
to have a piece of their furniture in any museum is merely to donate it
with something that the museum wants and make the two contigent.
> Most counter culture types I have seen want nothing to do with culture and
> museums and galleries and collections and exhibitions and TEACHING and
> publications numerous affiliations.
Those places are filled with them. Its just that most are slightly older
and propagate, nest, etc.
TeamCasa <[email protected]> wrote:
> He is no carpenter turned
> woodworker,
What's the breakdown?
Is it:
!) carpenter of non-wood
2)carpenter
3)woodworker
4)fine woodworker
5)artist woodworker
6)artist who happens to use wood
> he truly is an artist that creates in wood.
I haven't seen the show, but I sure wish I could. Thanks to whoever
posted the url. I didn't see a single thing in his that I would want to
make, but lots of them get you thinking.
Kind of ironic that he is talking about covering the sacred wood.
"The patina finish that is a trademark of my work, is a hybrid I've
developed over the last decade. It combines painting, gilding (metal
leafing), chemical patinas, and lacquering techniques. The complex
layers result in something that gives the appearance of a faux, ancient,
petrified stone quality."
I thought that kind of thing would have made him Un-Wreck-PC.
If you like that kind of stuff, you'd enjoy going to most any better
college fine arts show that has woodworking as part of their fine arts
program. Because they have so much time, some nice equipment and the
fire of youth, they make some wild and complex projects.
Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Counter culture... I don't think so, this guy is an accomplished artist
> > > with many of his pieces in museums around the country.
> >
> > Galleries are not museums.
>
> Did I say something to lead you to believe that that I felt that Galleries
> were Museums?
Yeah. What you wrote.
>
> In addition to the piece that is in the Hawaii Museum,
Which was not purchased by the museum.
> there is The Museum
> of Craft and Folk Art , San Francisco, Sonoma County Museum, Santa Rosa, CA,
> San Jose Museum of Art, San Jose, CA, and teaching at the American Crafts
> Museum, New York, NY.
Exhibitions. Some labeled as craft shows.
Many of his pieces aren't in museums around the country.
Most artists that I have known consider the work to be the
accomplishment. You could certainly argue that he is one.
Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Many of his pieces aren't in museums around the country.
>
> Well Ok, many of his pieces "have been" displayed in many museums around the
> country,
You still can't say that based on his webpage, but who cares. FYI, being
in a county museum show of crafts is more than a little different than
being in a major city museum collection.
> just like many other displays in most museums.
Museums display just about everything the mind can imagine.
> None the less, his
> work has been and probably, will be in the future, displayed in a museum.
Tough nut to crack, particularly for someone who works in furniture.
Maybe a design collection, but fine art is a long shot, most of which
has nothing to do with the quality of his work.
Eric Lund <[email protected]> wrote:
> Interestingly, one of the simplest pieces he's made was a pure art piece,
> and sold for more than anything else. It's the one that comes up at
> www.djmarks.com. I think he said he got $20,000 for that one. His wife
> suggested he do more art pieces. ;-^
Just goes to show the size of the jointer ain't what makes an artist.
Which one is it?
What's his wife like?
I too was at the show in Ontario, CA., and met David. I spent almost a half
hour just talking about woodworking and different finishing techniques. I
was very impressed with his humility and general friendliness. He is very
open about his processes, trials and errors. He is no carpenter turned
woodworker, he truly is an artist that creates in wood. I could tell he
really loves creating.
Dave
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> He was at the local woodworking show here in So.Cal in January. You
always
> get a different perspective in person, almost like a second first
> impression. My second first impression was, he looks a lot older in
person.
> Regardless, he was a nice guy, answering questions about the project from
> the show that he had on hand (the curved top chest), and the smile was
> pretty much what you see on the tube.
>
> The smirk always seemed to me to be "how the heck did I ever make it to
> cable TV?"
>
> --
> ********
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.billpounds.com
>
>
> "Larry Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Please, no flames for some criticism. I like his show...
> >
> > I'm usually on my way to work at 7:30 in the morning, but happened to
> > stay home today. Great stuff, cool project of a glass table with two
> > supports with a 15" radius, held together with 3 copper pipes. I
> > liked most of his methods.
> >
> > I did cringe, however, when he was running these slats through the
> > jointer without a push stick. Once slip, and he's going to be missing
> > some fingers. I also didn't notice any hearing protection.
> >
> > Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> > smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> > Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> > know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> > wondering if he's always smiling like this.
>
>
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And just exactly what is wrong with being a carpenter turned woodworker?
"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I too was at the show in Ontario, CA., and met David. I spent almost a
half
> hour just talking about woodworking and different finishing techniques. I
> was very impressed with his humility and general friendliness. He is very
> open about his processes, trials and errors. He is no carpenter turned
> woodworker, he truly is an artist that creates in wood.
Or, it may merely be his normal facial contour.
Gotta love conspiracy theories....
"Jon Endres, PE" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Y8t%[email protected]...
> > His smirk used to bug me too, I thought it made him look like a smart
ass
> > but I don't think that is the case anymore.
> > I like his show a lot because he talks alot about design and form of his
> > creations and he makes some beautiful projects. I wish his show was on
> more
> > often.
> >
> > He does however always wear long sleeve shirts. He should at least roll
> up
> > his sleeves while using power tools.
>
> DIY won't let him show his tatoo(s).
>
> I'm sure the smirk reflects some sort of disdain for the simplistic
projects
> he builds on the show. If you look at his website, you'll see that what
he
> builds on the show is very basic compared to his gallery and art pieces.
> Kinda like Norm banging together a pine birdhouse on TV.
>
> Jon E
>
>
Nothing. I was just illustrating the difference as I see it. I occasionally
watch Norm but after that show where he made a poorly designed, poorly
executed, not well thought out melamine laundry fiasco, I lost a little
respect for him. JMO
Dave
"Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> And just exactly what is wrong with being a carpenter turned woodworker?
>
>
> "TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I too was at the show in Ontario, CA., and met David. I spent almost a
> half
> > hour just talking about woodworking and different finishing techniques.
I
> > was very impressed with his humility and general friendliness. He is
very
> > open about his processes, trials and errors. He is no carpenter turned
> > woodworker, he truly is an artist that creates in wood.
>
>
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In rec.woodworking
[email protected] (Ocky) wrote:
>I wish he would also show building of some of the templates he uses.
>If you start with a pre-made template then the lesson of doing the
>real thing is lost.
The show about making the bent lamination jarra lamp, he goes into great
detail about the template and bend mould.
> I watch the show because of his high level of woodworking skills and never
> even considered his "TV presence" as a factor worthy of my consideration
I don't consider it a factor as to whether or not I will watch, but
it's just an observation. It's not often you see a guy who is on TV
that isn't groomed for TV.
> Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a real
> woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
> No flame ... just curious.
Well, TV *ISN'T* reality. Even his show isn't reality, based on the
fact that he doesn't build his projects in 30 minutes.
Larry Bud responds:
>I don't consider it a factor as to whether or not I will watch, but
>it's just an observation. It's not often you see a guy who is on TV
>that isn't groomed for TV.
>
>> Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a real
>> woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
>> No flame ... just curious.
>
>Well, TV *ISN'T* reality. Even his show isn't reality, based on the
>fact that he doesn't build his projects in 30 minutes.
>
Oh, I dunno. Norm is fairly real, I think. But I always get a kick out of
people who complain of the lack of reality on TV: back in the early '70s (?), a
program called Nurse came on with, IIRC, Diana Ross as star. Big bitch: the
show didn't show REAL black life styles. Oddly enough, when John Boy and kind
popped up on The Waltons, no one raised a bitch about it not showing real
depression era farm life. My mother was raised in that area and her family
spread over the era, with my grandfather owning a farm/sawmill just outside
Gordonsville, VA. You can bet on some things: the family didn't have a truck
and cars for each member. The house was large, but the lights were kerosene.
The house oftenlooked shabby because all the farm buildings got whitewashed
before it did. And on.
Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry Bud responds:
>
>
> Oh, I dunno. Norm is fairly real, I think. But I always get a kick out of
> people who complain of the lack of reality on TV: back in the early '70s
(?), a
>
I agree, but Norm's had a few more years to polish his act. In addition,
NYW isn't the only show he's been a part of. I like them both.
Cheers,
Eric
Eric Lund writes:
>>
>>
>> Oh, I dunno. Norm is fairly real, I think. But I always get a kick out of
>> people who complain of the lack of reality on TV: back in the early '70s
>(?), a
>>
>
>I agree, but Norm's had a few more years to polish his act. In addition,
>NYW isn't the only show he's been a part of. I like them both.
>
True. But I also like them both, the few times I get to watch either one. We
use basic cable, so my only chances for Marks are when I get down home and can
turf the grandkids out of front of their 52" or whatever, with half a million
channels.
Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
"p_j" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1g9t7vn.1snkdx4urzzk3N%[email protected]...
> Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Counter culture... I don't think so, this guy is an accomplished artist
> > with many of his pieces in museums around the country.
>
> Galleries are not museums.
Did I say something to lead you to believe that that I felt that Galleries
were Museums?
In addition to the piece that is in the Hawaii Museum, there is The Museum
of Craft and Folk Art , San Francisco, Sonoma County Museum, Santa Rosa, CA,
San Jose Museum of Art, San Jose, CA, and teaching at the American Crafts
Museum, New York, NY.
On 29 Feb 2004 16:11:32 -0800, [email protected] (Ocky) brought
forth from the murky depths:
>I wish he would also show building of some of the templates he uses.
>If you start with a pre-made template then the lesson of doing the
>real thing is lost.
Say you want to build a round oak blurfl by the thousands.
To make a blurfl, you need a drawing for the legs, the
skirt, and the top.
To make the template for the top, use the drawing to lay out
lines on a piece of MDF or baltic birch plywood. Cut just
outside the lines and sand to smooth right down to the line.
To make an actual top, set the template on the piece of wood
you want to cut, mark a line around the template, and cut to
outside of the line. Use double-sided tape to stick the
template to the wood and use the template as a bearing guide
for the router. Rout around the piece and remove the template.
Tip: In most cases, the template is simply a piece cut to the
exact same size and shape as the intended piece.
.-.
Better Living Through Denial
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"Jon Endres, PE" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Y8t%[email protected]...
> > His smirk used to bug me too, I thought it made him look like a smart
ass
> > but I don't think that is the case anymore.
> > I like his show a lot because he talks alot about design and form of his
> > creations and he makes some beautiful projects. I wish his show was on
> more
> > often.
> >
> > He does however always wear long sleeve shirts. He should at least roll
> up
> > his sleeves while using power tools.
>
> DIY won't let him show his tatoo(s).
>
> I'm sure the smirk reflects some sort of disdain for the simplistic
projects
> he builds on the show. If you look at his website, you'll see that what
he
> builds on the show is very basic compared to his gallery and art pieces.
> Kinda like Norm banging together a pine birdhouse on TV.
>
> Jon E
>
>
One of the things you have to understand is that a DIY show has a very small
fraction of the budget that NYW has, and they do more shows than per season.
So as a result, they are knocking out shows pretty quick. As for the
sleeves, that's DIY. The smirk is probably the joke he can't tell becuase
DIY is pretty restrictive on following the script. Do you see a pattern
developing here? He does use hearing protection on the show, but I don't
remember exactly what product. IIRC, it was some sort of ear plug. He
knows a guy with a bigger jointer than his. He's a lot smoother in person
than on the show.
Cheers,
Eric
"Leon" wrote in message
> Hi Swingman,,
>
> I went over to Americtec Machinery this morning. Don't bother. Strictly
> INDUSTRIAL sized equipment unless you want a 16" jointer or 48" wide belt
> sander.. ;~)
>
> They mentioned A to Z Equipment though... I'll have to check into that.
Thanks for the report, Leon. What I would _really_ like is a shop that would
justify a 16" jointer. :)
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Leon wrote:
> "Larry Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>
>>Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
>>smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
>>Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
>>know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
>>wondering if he's always smiling like this.
>
>
> Yeah..LOL... I uh.. remember being bothered by the smirk also. I got the
> impression that he was stoned. Anyway, you get past that and realize that
> he is quite accomplished. He was well on his way long before this TV show.
> Have you seen his web site?
>
His smirk still bothers me.
At first I thought it was because he was some type of smartass.
Then I realized he was being paid to be on TV showing how to build something he
was going to sell for more money, he probably scored a new light system because
can't have any kind of shadow on TV. And guessing from other threads on Marks ,
Marks was counter culture, long hair and tattoos. Now he's main stream and all
he had to do was cut his hair and wear a long shirt. He has a bunch of hard core
conformists, the 9 to 5ers, tuning into him to see how things are done.
I'd smirk to.
He IS some kind of smart ass, and the jokes on us.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)
When he was approached about doing a show the folks who were doing the
asking wanted a show on how to make shaker furnityure etc.. he said no there
are enough of those shows out there. He said he awanted to do projects that
were a little harder and involved little more creativity and used some
exotic wood combinations etc... I love his show... Is it still in
production? seems like I have seen the same shows over and over?.
--
Chris Pine
www.penartists.com
Ever look at your watch then look away again and you don't know what time it
is?!
"Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently got DIY and started watching David. I enjoy watching his
> show cause he has skills but I have yet to see him build anything that
> I would want to build. The problem I have is not really with him but
> with the show. You would think that being on DIY that it would be for
> the home hobbyist. I'm sure some of you have some of the tools he
> uses but I don't...I don't have a 12" (or how ever freakin' big)
> joiner, multi-router, or that fancy vacuum press. For those of you
> that have these things....it must be nice.
>
> Greg
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Larry Bud" wrote in message
> >
> > > Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> > > smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> > > Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> > > know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> > > wondering if he's always smiling like this.
> >
> > I watch the show because of his high level of woodworking skills and
never
> > even considered his "TV presence" as a factor worthy of my consideration
> >
> > Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a
real
> > woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
> >
> > No flame ... just curious.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
If I had the U.S.S Enterprise for a jointer, I'd be smirking a lot too.
--
Charles Jones
[email protected]
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:JPt%[email protected]...
> Then I realized he was being paid to be on TV showing how to build
something he
> was going to sell for more money, he probably scored a new light system
because
> can't have any kind of shadow on TV. And guessing from other threads on
Marks ,
> Marks was counter culture, long hair and tattoos. Now he's main stream and
all
> he had to do was cut his hair and wear a long shirt. He has a bunch of
hard core
> conformists, the 9 to 5ers, tuning into him to see how things are done.
Counter culture... I don't think so, this guy is an accomplished artist
with many of his pieces in museums around the country. Check out his BIO at
his web site http://www.djmarks.com/
Most counter culture types I have seen want nothing to do with culture and
museums and galleries and collections and exhibitions and TEACHING and
publications numerous affiliations.
I'm guessing also that he pays for nothing to have that show produced. None
of the above mentioned has happened since he has shown up on TV. The TV gig
has come along after a long long list of accomplishments... Check the web
site.
Well, I agree. The same thing happens to me when I go to an art museum. I
mean, do they really think an average person can paint that well? Get real.
I mean, where is the finger painting? paint-by-number? Bob Ross originals?
It's really annoying being exposed to something challenging and above my
abilities/means. I think I better close my mind a little more.
<preceding diatribe written in the age-old style of Sarcasm Extroidinaire>
Mike
"Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently got DIY and started watching David. I enjoy watching his
> show cause he has skills but I have yet to see him build anything that
> I would want to build. The problem I have is not really with him but
> with the show. You would think that being on DIY that it would be for
> the home hobbyist. I'm sure some of you have some of the tools he
> uses but I don't...I don't have a 12" (or how ever freakin' big)
> joiner, multi-router, or that fancy vacuum press. For those of you
> that have these things....it must be nice.
>
> Greg
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Larry Bud" wrote in message
> >
> > > Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> > > smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> > > Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> > > know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> > > wondering if he's always smiling like this.
> >
> > I watch the show because of his high level of woodworking skills and
never
> > even considered his "TV presence" as a factor worthy of my consideration
> >
> > Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a
real
> > woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
> >
> > No flame ... just curious.
Damn Mark you got issues buddy......
Jim
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:JPt%[email protected]...
>
>
>
> Then I realized he was being paid to be on TV showing how to build
something he
> was going to sell for more money, he probably scored a new light system
because
> can't have any kind of shadow on TV. And guessing from other threads on
Marks ,
> Marks was counter culture, long hair and tattoos. Now he's main stream and
all
> he had to do was cut his hair and wear a long shirt. He has a bunch of
hard core
> conformists, the 9 to 5ers, tuning into him to see how things are done.
>
>
> I'd smirk to.
>
> He IS some kind of smart ass, and the jokes on us.
>
>
> Kind of ironic that he is talking about covering the sacred wood.
>
> "The patina finish that is a trademark of my work, is a hybrid I've
> developed over the last decade. It combines painting, gilding (metal
> leafing), chemical patinas, and lacquering techniques. The complex
> layers result in something that gives the appearance of a faux, ancient,
> petrified stone quality."
>
> I thought that kind of thing would have made him Un-Wreck-PC.
>
> If you like that kind of stuff, you'd enjoy going to most any better
> college fine arts show that has woodworking as part of their fine arts
> program. Because they have so much time, some nice equipment and the
> fire of youth, they make some wild and complex projects.
>
>
>
Interestingly, one of the simplest pieces he's made was a pure art piece,
and sold for more than anything else. It's the one that comes up at
www.djmarks.com. I think he said he got $20,000 for that one. His wife
suggested he do more art pieces. ;-^
Cheers,
Eric
"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Y8t%[email protected]...
> His smirk used to bug me too, I thought it made him look like a smart ass
> but I don't think that is the case anymore.
> I like his show a lot because he talks alot about design and form of his
> creations and he makes some beautiful projects. I wish his show was on
more
> often.
>
> He does however always wear long sleeve shirts. He should at least roll
up
> his sleeves while using power tools.
DIY won't let him show his tatoo(s).
I'm sure the smirk reflects some sort of disdain for the simplistic projects
he builds on the show. If you look at his website, you'll see that what he
builds on the show is very basic compared to his gallery and art pieces.
Kinda like Norm banging together a pine birdhouse on TV.
Jon E
[email protected] (Larry Bud) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> wondering if he's always smiling like this.
Love his show, he does great work. Smile irks me, but the 'helmet head'
haircut down right frightens me! Seems like a good guy who enjoys smoking a
bud or two before shotting the show.
His smirk used to bug me too, I thought it made him look like a smart ass
but I don't think that is the case anymore.
I like his show a lot because he talks alot about design and form of his
creations and he makes some beautiful projects. I wish his show was on more
often.
He does however always wear long sleeve shirts. He should at least roll up
his sleeves while using power tools.
"Larry Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Please, no flames for some criticism. I like his show...
>
> I'm usually on my way to work at 7:30 in the morning, but happened to
> stay home today. Great stuff, cool project of a glass table with two
> supports with a 15" radius, held together with 3 copper pipes. I
> liked most of his methods.
>
> I did cringe, however, when he was running these slats through the
> jointer without a push stick. Once slip, and he's going to be missing
> some fingers. I also didn't notice any hearing protection.
>
> Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> wondering if he's always smiling like this.
"Greg" wrote in message
> I recently got DIY and started watching David. I enjoy watching his
> show cause he has skills but I have yet to see him build anything that
> I would want to build.
Most of his pieces are interesting to me for the joinery and technique's he
uses, including his frequents, and often ingenious, use of templates. I am
always trying to anticipate how, where and why he will use a certain cut,
tool, or method ... I am getting better at guessing what he'll do next.
Some of the 'round' things he builds, like the mirror stand, are doubly
interesting for the methodology, although, like you, I doubt whether I'll
ever be interested in doing them.
You gotta respect the man's output of woodwork ... it is inarguably artistic
and functional, but still accessible to the average wooddorker who wants to
put his shoulder to the wheel. The more I learn and attempt do myself,
particularly in the area of design, the more I am impressed with his talent.
... and that by gawd ain't a "smirk", it's a shit eating grin from doing
what he loves to do, and doing it well enough to be successful in a tough
age.
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"Larry Bud" wrote in message
> > Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a
real
> > woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
> > No flame ... just curious.
>
> Well, TV *ISN'T* reality.
LOL ... Is that not _exactly_ what I said?
>Even his show isn't reality, based on the
> fact that he doesn't build his projects in 30 minutes.
<sigh> Read, once again, my above remark about the "unreality of TV".
However, the fact that he is NOT an actor playing the part of a woodworker
is what's throwing some of you in your expectations. That's why Madison
Avenue uses the handsome, rugged, manly stereotypes in all the woodworking
ads ... they don't want you to be so easily distracted by reality when
you're not used to it.
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You might like their "Woodworking" show better. It is definitely the
opposite end of the board.
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"Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I recently got DIY and started watching David. I enjoy watching his
> show cause he has skills but I have yet to see him build anything that
> I would want to build. The problem I have is not really with him but
> with the show. You would think that being on DIY that it would be for
> the home hobbyist. I'm sure some of you have some of the tools he
> uses but I don't...I don't have a 12" (or how ever freakin' big)
> joiner, multi-router, or that fancy vacuum press. For those of you
> that have these things....it must be nice.
>
> Greg
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Larry Bud" wrote in message
> >
> > > Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> > > smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> > > Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> > > know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> > > wondering if he's always smiling like this.
> >
> > I watch the show because of his high level of woodworking skills and
never
> > even considered his "TV presence" as a factor worthy of my consideration
> >
> > Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a
real
> > woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
> >
> > No flame ... just curious.
Pounds on Wood wrote:
> You might like their "Woodworking" show better. It is definitely the
> opposite end of the board.
I think this is the show I watched part of, after 10 minutes I couldn't take it
anymore.
If I need a sick laugh at how not to do something I'll tune it in again.
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N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)
I recently got DIY and started watching David. I enjoy watching his
show cause he has skills but I have yet to see him build anything that
I would want to build. The problem I have is not really with him but
with the show. You would think that being on DIY that it would be for
the home hobbyist. I'm sure some of you have some of the tools he
uses but I don't...I don't have a 12" (or how ever freakin' big)
joiner, multi-router, or that fancy vacuum press. For those of you
that have these things....it must be nice.
Greg
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Larry Bud" wrote in message
>
> > Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> > smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> > Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> > know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> > wondering if he's always smiling like this.
>
> I watch the show because of his high level of woodworking skills and never
> even considered his "TV presence" as a factor worthy of my consideration
>
> Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a real
> woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
>
> No flame ... just curious.
I had the privilege of having lunch with David Marks at the Ontario
Woodworking Show a few weeks ago. I can attest that David is not only
a real woodworker but he's also a friendly guy who does tend to smile
a lot. My impression is that he really enjoys life and is still
somewhat surprised by the recognition the show has brought him. As to
smirking at an inside joke with his crew, I doubt it, since I observed
no sarcastic or snide side to his personality.
He was at the local woodworking show here in So.Cal in January. You always
get a different perspective in person, almost like a second first
impression. My second first impression was, he looks a lot older in person.
Regardless, he was a nice guy, answering questions about the project from
the show that he had on hand (the curved top chest), and the smile was
pretty much what you see on the tube.
The smirk always seemed to me to be "how the heck did I ever make it to
cable TV?"
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"Larry Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Please, no flames for some criticism. I like his show...
>
> I'm usually on my way to work at 7:30 in the morning, but happened to
> stay home today. Great stuff, cool project of a glass table with two
> supports with a 15" radius, held together with 3 copper pipes. I
> liked most of his methods.
>
> I did cringe, however, when he was running these slats through the
> jointer without a push stick. Once slip, and he's going to be missing
> some fingers. I also didn't notice any hearing protection.
>
> Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> wondering if he's always smiling like this.
I've attributed that "smirk" to him being ill at ease on TV. Nothing
more.
He had an episode on selecting and buying wood, in it he met with a
couple of fellows and all of them seemed very uncomfortable in front
of the camera, resulting in more than a few good unintentional comedy
moments. BUT, the episode was excellent, I learned a great deal. I
love the show, got TiVo set up to snag every episode. It records 4 or
5 a week.
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:32:18 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, I agree. The same thing happens to me when I go to an art museum. I
>mean, do they really think an average person can paint that well?
Take a ride down I-95 to the Yale Art Museum sometime. You'll feel
the same way about furniture. <G>
Barry
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You might like their "Woodworking" show better. It is definitely the
> opposite end of the board.
Yeah.. LOL The guy from Miniwax shows you how to belt sand the finish on a
table, cut wood with his make believe RAS, which is really a slider CMS, and
then nail everything together.. ;~)
"p_j" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Eric Lund <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Interestingly, one of the simplest pieces he's made was a pure art
piece,
> > and sold for more than anything else. It's the one that comes up at
> > www.djmarks.com. I think he said he got $20,000 for that one. His wife
> > suggested he do more art pieces. ;-^
>
> Just goes to show the size of the jointer ain't what makes an artist.
> Which one is it?
>
> What's his wife like?
Didn't meet his wife. He related the story during his presentation. The
piece is the one that is a round disk with a vertical diamond (with round
sides, don't know what the shape would normally be called) through it. It's
the one that comes up when you first enter his site at the above address.
Cheers,
Eric
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:10:57 GMT, "Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I recently got DIY and started watching David. I enjoy watching his
>> show cause he has skills but I have yet to see him build anything that
>> I would want to build. The problem I have is not really with him but
>> with the show. You would think that being on DIY that it would be for
>> the home hobbyist. I'm sure some of you have some of the tools he
>> uses but I don't...I don't have a 12" (or how ever freakin' big)
>> joiner, multi-router, or that fancy vacuum press. For those of you
>> that have these things....it must be nice.
Greg, you need to temper your hour with a view of Roy Underhill's
"The Woodwright's Shop" program from PBS. He shows how to do some
of this with simple hand tools as they did hundreds of years ago.
Look for his books in the library. They're great.
.-.
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Hi Swingman,,
I went over to Americtec Machinery this morning. Don't bother. Strictly
INDUSTRIAL sized equipment unless you want a 16" jointer or 48" wide belt
sander.. ;~)
They mentioned A to Z Equipment though... I'll have to check into that.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Larry Bud" wrote in message
>
> > > Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a
> real
> > > woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
> > > No flame ... just curious.
> >
> > Well, TV *ISN'T* reality.
>
> LOL ... Is that not _exactly_ what I said?
>
> >Even his show isn't reality, based on the
> > fact that he doesn't build his projects in 30 minutes.
>
> <sigh> Read, once again, my above remark about the "unreality of TV".
>
> However, the fact that he is NOT an actor playing the part of a woodworker
> is what's throwing some of you in your expectations. That's why Madison
> Avenue uses the handsome, rugged, manly stereotypes in all the woodworking
> ads ... they don't want you to be so easily distracted by reality when
> you're not used to it.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 2/26/04
>
>
"p_j" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Counter culture... I don't think so, this guy is an accomplished
artist
> > > > with many of his pieces in museums around the country.
> > >
> > > Galleries are not museums.
> >
> > Did I say something to lead you to believe that that I felt that
Galleries
> > were Museums?
>
> Yeah. What you wrote.
Absolutely no indicator that galleries are musieums.
> > In addition to the piece that is in the Hawaii Museum,
>
> Which was not purchased by the museum.
>
> Many of his pieces aren't in museums around the country.
Well Ok, many of his pieces "have been" displayed in many museums around the
country, just like many other displays in most museums. None the less, his
work has been and probably, will be in the future, displayed in a museum.
Yeah, TC. I thought the normal progression was from newbie to
intermediocre, carpenter, finish carpenter, woodworker, then
finally artiste.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:45:38 -0600, "Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>And just exactly what is wrong with being a carpenter turned woodworker?
>"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> He is no carpenter turned woodworker, he truly is an artist that
>> creates in wood.
.-.
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:28:08 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's why Madison
>Avenue uses the handsome, rugged, manly stereotypes in all the woodworking
>ads ...
You mean like the photo of me in the Makita M-Force ads? <G>
Barry
"Larry Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Snip
>
> Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> wondering if he's always smiling like this.
Yeah..LOL... I uh.. remember being bothered by the smirk also. I got the
impression that he was stoned. Anyway, you get past that and realize that
he is quite accomplished. He was well on his way long before this TV show.
Have you seen his web site?
"Christopher Pine" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> exotic wood combinations etc... I love his show... Is it still in
> production? seems like I have seen the same shows over and over?.
>
Yes, it's still in production. He has an upcoming show building a Krenov
plane. Guess who the guest will be?
Cheers,
Eric
"Larry Bud" wrote in message
> Once of the things that really bugged me though, was this constant
> smirk he seemed to have when describing a woodworking procedure.
> Almost like there was some inside joke he had with the crew! I don't
> know his personality, and frankly he has terrible TV presence, but
> wondering if he's always smiling like this.
I watch the show because of his high level of woodworking skills and never
even considered his "TV presence" as a factor worthy of my consideration
Could it be that you've been raised on the unreality of TV and he's a real
woodworker, not some actor hired to play a part?
No flame ... just curious.
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