I know shapers can be run CW or CCW. I can also understand why this is
desirable due to grain direction. What I don't get is aren't all
cutters designed to rotate one direction (i.e. CW). It wouldn't work to
run a piece thru a cutter CW then flip the shaper switch to REV and run
it through the same cutter. Would it??? Do you have to buy two of the
same profile cutters, one for CW and one for CCW? How's this work?
--
Larry C in Auburn WA
Not to mention, sometimes it's just easier to feed from one side, even on a
symmetrical cutter.
Be sure and use the tabbed washer(s) under the top nut so it doesn't unwind
on you. Real thrill, that.
"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:26:13 +0000, Larry C wrote:
>
> > I know shapers can be run CW or CCW. I can also understand why this is
> > desirable due to grain direction. What I don't get is aren't all
> > cutters designed to rotate one direction (i.e. CW). It wouldn't work to
> > run a piece thru a cutter CW then flip the shaper switch to REV and run
> > it through the same cutter. Would it??? Do you have to buy two of the
> > same profile cutters, one for CW and one for CCW? How's this work?
>
> The cutters can be flipped over as well as stacked to some degree to
> create complex profiles. You wouldn't use the reversing switch without
> flipping the cutter and reversing the feed direction also.
>
> -Doug
Well,
All cutter sets are not symmetrical. Sometimes you need to turn the cutters
upside down or feed from the other direction. I have a very good set of
Amana door cutters that are like this. I don't remember all the details as
it has been a while since I made some doors. I used to be curious about the
reverse switch myself until I ran into this situation.
The set is a ovolo /square set. It gives you an ovolo mold on the outside of
the door and a square cut on the back side of the door. The coping cutters
are such that I need to reverse the rotation if I desire to keep the inside
face of the door down. I prefer doing this as it protects my height setting
on the spindle.
"Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> > When I run cope and stick joints on the shaper, such as in making door
> > frames; I feed the stuck molding from right to left but feed the copes
> > from left to right.
> >
> >
> > Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
> > Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
> > Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
> >
>
> Tom - may I ask why ? You've got my curiosity up. I was just today
> visiting my friend's shop - he does almost nothing but rp doors nowadays
and
> I've never seen him him run anything left to right. I fact, he has about
> 20-25 shapers sitting around set up, and I can't remember any of them set
up
> that way. Would you/could you raise a panel left to right (cutter on
> bottom) ? Again - not questioning validity - just trying to learn
something
> new.
>
> jim bailey
>
>
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:26:13 +0000, Larry C wrote:
> I know shapers can be run CW or CCW. I can also understand why this is
> desirable due to grain direction. What I don't get is aren't all
> cutters designed to rotate one direction (i.e. CW). It wouldn't work to
> run a piece thru a cutter CW then flip the shaper switch to REV and run
> it through the same cutter. Would it??? Do you have to buy two of the
> same profile cutters, one for CW and one for CCW? How's this work?
The cutters can be flipped over as well as stacked to some degree to
create complex profiles. You wouldn't use the reversing switch without
flipping the cutter and reversing the feed direction also.
-Doug
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:26:13 GMT, "Larry C"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I know shapers can be run CW or CCW. I can also understand why this is
>desirable due to grain direction. What I don't get is aren't all
>cutters designed to rotate one direction (i.e. CW). It wouldn't work to
>run a piece thru a cutter CW then flip the shaper switch to REV and run
>it through the same cutter. Would it??? Do you have to buy two of the
>same profile cutters, one for CW and one for CCW? How's this work?
When I run cope and stick joints on the shaper, such as in making door
frames; I feed the stuck molding from right to left but feed the copes
from left to right.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:29:03 GMT, "Jim Bailey"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> When I run cope and stick joints on the shaper, such as in making door
>> frames; I feed the stuck molding from right to left but feed the copes
>> from left to right.
>>
>>
>> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
>> Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
>> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
>>
>
>Tom - may I ask why ? You've got my curiosity up. I was just today
>visiting my friend's shop - he does almost nothing but rp doors nowadays and
>I've never seen him him run anything left to right. I fact, he has about
>20-25 shapers sitting around set up, and I can't remember any of them set up
>that way. Would you/could you raise a panel left to right (cutter on
>bottom) ? Again - not questioning validity - just trying to learn something
>new.
>
>jim bailey
>
The shaper cutter set that I have for cope and stick doors is a Freud
and when I feed the cope ends through, while they are in the sliding
jig, they must be fed from left to right,
When I've done curved work, it has sometimes been necessary to flip
the cutter and reverse the feed - mostly on ovolos on the inside
radius, in order to keep from tearing out the grain. Curves take a
lot of time in glue-up and prep and so, it is worth going to some
effort to follow the grain to ensure a clean cut.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
>
> When I run cope and stick joints on the shaper, such as in making door
> frames; I feed the stuck molding from right to left but feed the copes
> from left to right.
>
>
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
> Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
>
Tom - may I ask why ? You've got my curiosity up. I was just today
visiting my friend's shop - he does almost nothing but rp doors nowadays and
I've never seen him him run anything left to right. I fact, he has about
20-25 shapers sitting around set up, and I can't remember any of them set up
that way. Would you/could you raise a panel left to right (cutter on
bottom) ? Again - not questioning validity - just trying to learn something
new.
jim bailey