"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us
>> here use
>> for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it
>> wasn't so
>> expensive. Anyway in Google tradition they are offering a free
>> version
>> of it, you can download it here
>> http://sketchup.google.com/download.html
>
> That is truly awesome. I'll also chime in that SketchUp is a
> great 3D tool for quickly mocking up designs. I was about to
> sketch some options for a new front porch for my father using
> it.
>
> todd
>
Yup; looks like they came upon a real goodie there.
alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
>"damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
>>for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
>>expensive.
>That's me. couldn't justify the cost for my hobby use, and have been
>harding my 8 hours of trial time, waiting for the best use of it.
^^^^^^^
Make that "hoarding", of course!
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damian penney wrote:
> Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
> for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
> expensive. Anyway in Google tradition they are offering a free version
> of it, you can download it here
> http://sketchup.google.com/download.html
SketchUp is a great 3D CAD tool. I use it on everything from furniture
to home design. Easy to learn and easy to use.
R
Right next to the WINE?
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> todd wrote:
>
> > That is truly awesome. I'll also chime in that SketchUp is a great 3D
> > tool for quickly mocking up designs. I was about to sketch some
> > options for a new front porch for my father using it.
>
> But where is the Linux version???
>
> --
> It's turtles, all the way down
John L. Poole wrote:
>
> I've been studying this program for a few hours and am beginning to
> think this rocks... Thank you Google! Now, we just have to hope for
> tool manufacturers to offer 3D files of their products so that we can
> integrate them into SketchUp designs --- this already is happening in
> the professional realm. Would it be nifty if Lee Valley starting
> offering 3D files of what it sells.
Oh, sure. That's just what I need. CAD dream tools to go in my CAD
dream shop. Well, at least it would be 3D... ;)
R
In article <[email protected]>,
alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
>alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
>>>for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
>>>expensive.
>>That's me. couldn't justify the cost for my hobby use, and have been
>>harding my 8 hours of trial time, waiting for the best use of it.
> ^^^^^^^
>
>Make that "hoarding", of course!
AH! And I figured you just weren't using it for any softwood projects.
*snicker*
damian penney wrote:
> Right next to the WINE?
>
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>
>> But where is the Linux version???
>>
That comment was meant jokingly, but I guess I haven't kept up. Last
time I looked at WINE, it had more bugs than a dead horse. I'll take
another look. Thanks for reminding me.
--
It's turtles, all the way down
Yes, you could do this, but then the offending program will still be
running in the background, using system resources, slowing the computer
down. Get enough of these sort of parasitic programs and your machine
starts to crawl.
Please I am not meaning to offend anybody here. Again - looks like a
really cool program. Just understand what else may be involved if you
decide to go with it.
Harvey
Mapdude wrote:
> lock your system down with a firewall to prevent any unathorized
> connections w/ the internet.
>
> eclipsme wrote:
>>
>>>
>> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread, and yes, it
>> looks like a cool program. But reading the license agreement points
>> out that google requires you to allow the program to phone home for
>> updates. It also maintains a unique program identifier that allows
>> google to track whatever they have programed into it to track, though
>> they do say that personal information is not tracked. Google seems to
>> be going that way. I don't like automatic updates in general, or
>> programs that use my internet connection without my knowledge or consent.
>>
>> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>>
>> Harvey
"damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
>for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
>expensive.
That's me. couldn't justify the cost for my hobby use, and have been
harding my 8 hours of trial time, waiting for the best use of it.
> Anyway in Google tradition they are offering a free version
>of it, you can download it here
>http://sketchup.google.com/download.html
This is great news! No sure what the reduced capabilities are versus
Sketchup pro, but on the surface it looks very useful for me.
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Here's the skinny on the differences:
http://www.sketchup.com/index.php?id=1439
On 27 Apr 2006 10:13:27 -0700, "damian penney" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
>for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
>expensive. Anyway in Google tradition they are offering a free version
>of it, you can download it here
>http://sketchup.google.com/download.html
lock your system down with a firewall to prevent any unathorized
connections w/ the internet.
eclipsme wrote:
>
>>
> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread, and yes, it
> looks like a cool program. But reading the license agreement points out
> that google requires you to allow the program to phone home for updates.
> It also maintains a unique program identifier that allows google to
> track whatever they have programed into it to track, though they do say
> that personal information is not tracked. Google seems to be going that
> way. I don't like automatic updates in general, or programs that use my
> internet connection without my knowledge or consent.
>
> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>
> Harvey
If youi're worried about it calling home, disconnect from the
internet while you use it. It'll work just fine. It's silly to
allow net connections you don't need or want anyway; turn the
modem off is one way to be sure.
"eclipsme" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Odinn wrote:
>> On 4/29/2006 8:25 AM eclipsme mumbled something about the
>> following:
>>> Yes, you could do this, but then the offending program will
>>> still be running in the background, using system resources,
>>> slowing the computer down. Get enough of these sort of
>>> parasitic programs and your machine starts to crawl.
>>>
>>> Please I am not meaning to offend anybody here. Again - looks
>>> like a really cool program. Just understand what else may be
>>> involved if you decide to go with it.
>>>
>>> Harvey
>>>
>>>
>>> Mapdude wrote:
>>>> lock your system down with a firewall to prevent any
>>>> unathorized connections w/ the internet.
>>>>
>>>> eclipsme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread,
>>>>> and yes, it looks like a cool program. But reading the
>>>>> license agreement points out that google requires you to
>>>>> allow the program to phone home for updates. It also
>>>>> maintains a unique program identifier that allows google to
>>>>> track whatever they have programed into it to track, though
>>>>> they do say that personal information is not tracked.
>>>>> Google seems to be going that way. I don't like automatic
>>>>> updates in general, or programs that use my internet
>>>>> connection without my knowledge or consent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harvey
>>
>> It doesn't have any background program that runs, it connects
>> to home when you start it up. When you close it down, there
>> is nothing left running in the background.
>>
> This would certainly be better, but how do you know that this
> is how it behaves?
>
> Harvey
Pop wrote:
> If youi're worried about it calling home, disconnect from the
> internet while you use it. It'll work just fine. It's silly to
> allow net connections you don't need or want anyway; turn the
> modem off is one way to be sure.
>
>
>
> "eclipsme" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Odinn wrote:
>>> On 4/29/2006 8:25 AM eclipsme mumbled something about the
>>> following:
>>>> Yes, you could do this, but then the offending program will
>>>> still be running in the background, using system resources,
>>>> slowing the computer down. Get enough of these sort of
>>>> parasitic programs and your machine starts to crawl.
>>>>
>>>> Please I am not meaning to offend anybody here. Again - looks
>>>> like a really cool program. Just understand what else may be
>>>> involved if you decide to go with it.
>>>>
>>>> Harvey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mapdude wrote:
>>>>> lock your system down with a firewall to prevent any
>>>>> unathorized connections w/ the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> eclipsme wrote:
>>>>>> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread,
>>>>>> and yes, it looks like a cool program. But reading the
>>>>>> license agreement points out that google requires you to
>>>>>> allow the program to phone home for updates. It also
>>>>>> maintains a unique program identifier that allows google to
>>>>>> track whatever they have programed into it to track, though
>>>>>> they do say that personal information is not tracked.
>>>>>> Google seems to be going that way. I don't like automatic
>>>>>> updates in general, or programs that use my internet
>>>>>> connection without my knowledge or consent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harvey
>>> It doesn't have any background program that runs, it connects
>>> to home when you start it up. When you close it down, there
>>> is nothing left running in the background.
>>>
>> This would certainly be better, but how do you know that this
>> is how it behaves?
>>
>> Harvey
>
>
Any programmer worth his salt could work around the attempt to thwart
the calling home mechanism by closing off an Internet connection; just
simply cache the information being gathered in a temporary local file
and when the time comes that an Internet connection is detected, then
the contents are sent.
I've been studying this program for a few hours and am beginning to
think this rocks... Thank you Google! Now, we just have to hope for
tool manufacturers to offer 3D files of their products so that we can
integrate them into SketchUp designs --- this already is happening in
the professional realm. Would it be nifty if Lee Valley starting
offering 3D files of what it sells.
Robert Bonomi wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
>>>> for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
>>>> expensive.
>>> That's me. couldn't justify the cost for my hobby use, and have been
>>> harding my 8 hours of trial time, waiting for the best use of it.
>> ^^^^^^^
>>
>> Make that "hoarding", of course!
>
> AH! And I figured you just weren't using it for any softwood projects.
>
> *snicker*
>
>
I looked at this to download as a result of this thread, and yes, it
looks like a cool program. But reading the license agreement points out
that google requires you to allow the program to phone home for updates.
It also maintains a unique program identifier that allows google to
track whatever they have programed into it to track, though they do say
that personal information is not tracked. Google seems to be going that
way. I don't like automatic updates in general, or programs that use my
internet connection without my knowledge or consent.
Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
Harvey
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> todd wrote:
>
>> That is truly awesome. I'll also chime in that SketchUp is a great 3D
>> tool for quickly mocking up designs. I was about to sketch some
>> options for a new front porch for my father using it.
>
> But where is the Linux version???
>
> --
> It's turtles, all the way down
Nothing penguin-friendly that I see. However, for you Mac hippies out
there, a Mac version is coming "soon".
todd
Odinn wrote:
> On 4/29/2006 8:25 AM eclipsme mumbled something about the following:
>> Yes, you could do this, but then the offending program will still be
>> running in the background, using system resources, slowing the
>> computer down. Get enough of these sort of parasitic programs and your
>> machine starts to crawl.
>>
>> Please I am not meaning to offend anybody here. Again - looks like a
>> really cool program. Just understand what else may be involved if you
>> decide to go with it.
>>
>> Harvey
>>
>>
>> Mapdude wrote:
>>> lock your system down with a firewall to prevent any unathorized
>>> connections w/ the internet.
>>>
>>> eclipsme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread, and yes, it
>>>> looks like a cool program. But reading the license agreement points
>>>> out that google requires you to allow the program to phone home for
>>>> updates. It also maintains a unique program identifier that allows
>>>> google to track whatever they have programed into it to track,
>>>> though they do say that personal information is not tracked. Google
>>>> seems to be going that way. I don't like automatic updates in
>>>> general, or programs that use my internet connection without my
>>>> knowledge or consent.
>>>>
>>>> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>>>>
>>>> Harvey
>
> It doesn't have any background program that runs, it connects to home
> when you start it up. When you close it down, there is nothing left
> running in the background.
>
This would certainly be better, but how do you know that this is how it
behaves?
Harvey
damian penney wrote:
> Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
> for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
> expensive. Anyway in Google tradition they are offering a free version
> of it, you can download it here
> http://sketchup.google.com/download.html
>
I was unable to determine if dimensions and/or dimension lines could be
displayed. Is there a setting which causes dimensions to display, or is
that something available only in the Pro version?
(Yes, I know the small box down on the right has the dimensions of the
selected item, but that's not the same as displaying dimensions lines.)
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> todd wrote:
>
> > That is truly awesome. I'll also chime in that SketchUp is a great 3D
> > tool for quickly mocking up designs. I was about to sketch some
> > options for a new front porch for my father using it.
>
> But where is the Linux version???
>
> --
> It's turtles, all the way down
That's why I run a dual boot machine. The best and worst of two worlds.
--
Tom Adams
John L. Poole wrote:
> damian penney wrote:
>> Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
>> for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
>> expensive. Anyway in Google tradition they are offering a free version
>> of it, you can download it here
>> http://sketchup.google.com/download.html
>>
> I was unable to determine if dimensions and/or dimension lines could be
> displayed. Is there a setting which causes dimensions to display, or is
> that something available only in the Pro version?
>
> (Yes, I know the small box down on the right has the dimensions of the
> selected item, but that's not the same as displaying dimensions lines.)
Answering my own question
I spent over an hour trying discern how to do this last night, even
watched their online video for 20 minutes and finally gave up. Of
course right after I posted this this evening, I came across their
online documentation and the answer was right there: Tools-Dimension
then select the segment you want to display a dimension and pull a
dimension line off it.
On 4/29/2006 2:20 PM eclipsme mumbled something about the following:
> Odinn wrote:
>> On 4/29/2006 8:25 AM eclipsme mumbled something about the following:
>>> Yes, you could do this, but then the offending program will still be
>>> running in the background, using system resources, slowing the
>>> computer down. Get enough of these sort of parasitic programs and
>>> your machine starts to crawl.
>>>
>>> Please I am not meaning to offend anybody here. Again - looks like a
>>> really cool program. Just understand what else may be involved if you
>>> decide to go with it.
>>>
>>> Harvey
>>>
>>>
>>> Mapdude wrote:
>>>> lock your system down with a firewall to prevent any unathorized
>>>> connections w/ the internet.
>>>>
>>>> eclipsme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread, and yes,
>>>>> it looks like a cool program. But reading the license agreement
>>>>> points out that google requires you to allow the program to phone
>>>>> home for updates. It also maintains a unique program identifier
>>>>> that allows google to track whatever they have programed into it to
>>>>> track, though they do say that personal information is not tracked.
>>>>> Google seems to be going that way. I don't like automatic updates
>>>>> in general, or programs that use my internet connection without my
>>>>> knowledge or consent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harvey
>>
>> It doesn't have any background program that runs, it connects to home
>> when you start it up. When you close it down, there is nothing left
>> running in the background.
>>
> This would certainly be better, but how do you know that this is how it
> behaves?
>
Because I use several tools to tell me what processes are running, what
started them, and I have a firewall that logs all access in and out of
my home network. When all this bruhaha started about it phoning home, I
downloaded it and checked to see what it was doing. That's how I know.
--
Odinn
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'03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
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"eclipsme" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robert Bonomi wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here
use
> >>>> for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't
so
> >>>> expensive.
> >>> That's me. couldn't justify the cost for my hobby use, and have been
> >>> harding my 8 hours of trial time, waiting for the best use of it.
> >> ^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> Make that "hoarding", of course!
> >
> > AH! And I figured you just weren't using it for any softwood projects.
> >
> > *snicker*
> >
> >
> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread, and yes, it
> looks like a cool program. But reading the license agreement points out
> that google requires you to allow the program to phone home for updates.
> It also maintains a unique program identifier that allows google to
> track whatever they have programed into it to track, though they do say
> that personal information is not tracked. Google seems to be going that
> way. I don't like automatic updates in general, or programs that use my
> internet connection without my knowledge or consent.
>
> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>
> Harvey
Use a firewall and don't give it automatic permission. Heck, I don't even
allow my anti-virus program unlimited access.
--
Tom Adams
"damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Google bought the folks that write Sketchup, a tool many of us here use
> for mocking up our designs and many more would like to if it wasn't so
> expensive. Anyway in Google tradition they are offering a free version
> of it, you can download it here
> http://sketchup.google.com/download.html
That is truly awesome. I'll also chime in that SketchUp is a great 3D tool
for quickly mocking up designs. I was about to sketch some options for a
new front porch for my father using it.
todd
On 4/29/2006 8:25 AM eclipsme mumbled something about the following:
> Yes, you could do this, but then the offending program will still be
> running in the background, using system resources, slowing the computer
> down. Get enough of these sort of parasitic programs and your machine
> starts to crawl.
>
> Please I am not meaning to offend anybody here. Again - looks like a
> really cool program. Just understand what else may be involved if you
> decide to go with it.
>
> Harvey
>
>
> Mapdude wrote:
>> lock your system down with a firewall to prevent any unathorized
>> connections w/ the internet.
>>
>> eclipsme wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> I looked at this to download as a result of this thread, and yes, it
>>> looks like a cool program. But reading the license agreement points
>>> out that google requires you to allow the program to phone home for
>>> updates. It also maintains a unique program identifier that allows
>>> google to track whatever they have programed into it to track, though
>>> they do say that personal information is not tracked. Google seems to
>>> be going that way. I don't like automatic updates in general, or
>>> programs that use my internet connection without my knowledge or
>>> consent.
>>>
>>> Must admit though, this program does tempt me.
>>>
>>> Harvey
It doesn't have any background program that runs, it connects to home
when you start it up. When you close it down, there is nothing left
running in the background.
--
Odinn
RCOS #7 SENS BS ???
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton
Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org
'03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
'97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic
Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net
Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org
rot13 [email protected] to reply
And why not? Here's a start:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?q=woodworking
I am posting a couple of jpeg's of a 3D solid model of my very crowded
workshop-in-the-works to abpw. This model can be rotated and viewed from
all angles, solid or semi-transparent, as shown. Different configurations
can be created with relative ease. It was a lot of work drawing everything
from scratch but I am making major changes in shop layout, routing of
electrical circuits, designing multi-function workstations, etc as a result.
I used the (formerly free) Pro/Desktop program from PTC for this exercise.
David Merrill
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John L. Poole wrote:
> >
> > I've been studying this program for a few hours and am beginning to
> > think this rocks... Thank you Google! Now, we just have to hope for
> > tool manufacturers to offer 3D files of their products so that we can
> > integrate them into SketchUp designs --- this already is happening in
> > the professional realm. Would it be nifty if Lee Valley starting
> > offering 3D files of what it sells.
>
> Oh, sure. That's just what I need. CAD dream tools to go in my CAD
> dream shop. Well, at least it would be 3D... ;)
>
> R
>