Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but also
that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone (though I'm
not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:
http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
here are using.
TIA
Dan
On Sep 17, 2:19 pm, "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chrome it.
>
> "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> > thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
> > coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
> > wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but
> > also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone
> > (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:
> >http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
> > here are using.
>
> > TIA
>
> > Dan
It is generally better to avoid car waxes; some have silicone, which
may cause problems with finishes at a later date (this isn't true of
all, and often isn't a problem anyway because of the minuscule
amounts, but, IMO, falls in the "Why take a chance?" category.
I did an article for Woodwork that ran in August of '05 that may help,
or may turn you to mixing your own waxes (which is what the article is
really about). Check and see if your local library has a copy.
On Sep 23, 10:33 pm, "goaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dan,
> Truth be told, to really prevent rust, not just the stuff you see,
> but the rust that forms in the innards of you tools as well, you must
> control the cause of the rust, moisture. My shop is in the basement, the
> temperature difference in the basement just promotes moisture condensation
> on EVERYTHING, To reduce it, I run a dehumidifier. Yes the cost of electric
> can be high, but I have a fair amount of my hard earned cash in tools.
> Besides who wants a musty smelling basement anyway? Yes I do wax my surfaces
> of my tools to help, but keeping the moisture away does most of the work. I
> just can not afford to replace damaged tools.
Someone just tossed out a nice 2 x 3 foot chest. Guess
where my planes are going once I get it fitted with a couple of
sliding tills?
> One minor note, it seems anytime I leave something on a surface, it
> promotes the rusting activity even more. To that end I did buy from HTC the
> "breathable" cloths. They do seems to work as advertised.
Where is the condensation coming from? Fiberglass pipe tape might
be a good $20 investment.
On Sep 17, 12:35 am, "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
> coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
> wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but also
> that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone (though I'm
> not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
> here are using.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan
I recently ordered the TopSaver kit from Woodcraft to get some rust
off of a used jointer I had bought. Worked great for the de-rusting,
and is supposed to be effective as a protectant as well. Nice stuff -
recommend it so far, although it's only been a few weeks of course.
Dan;
I use Boeshield(sp), Woodcraft carries it, I also use a non silicone wax.
Both work for me. I use the wax regulary on my Bies, glides real easy.
larry
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Floor wax, or have found bee's wax to also work ok.
Have found settled dust causes a bit of rust on my tool surfaces. So keep
them covered as much as possible or blow off the excess dust as much as you
can when not in use.
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"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
> coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
> wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but
> also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone
> (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:
> http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
> here are using.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan
>
Chrome it.
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
> coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
> wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but
> also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone
> (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:
> http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
> here are using.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan
>
"goaway" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dan,
> Truth be told, to really prevent rust, not just the stuff you see,
> but the rust that forms in the innards of you tools as well, you must
> control the cause of the rust, moisture. My shop is in the basement, the
> temperature difference in the basement just promotes moisture condensation
> on EVERYTHING, To reduce it, I run a dehumidifier. Yes the cost of
> electric can be high, but I have a fair amount of my hard earned cash in
> tools. Besides who wants a musty smelling basement anyway? Yes I do wax my
> surfaces of my tools to help, but keeping the moisture away does most of
> the work. I just can not afford to replace damaged tools.
>
> One minor note, it seems anytime I leave something on a surface, it
> promotes the rusting activity even more. To that end I did buy from HTC
> the "breathable" cloths. They do seems to work as advertised.
>
> Good luck
>
>
> "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
>> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the
>> surface coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a
>> coat of car wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax
>> is OK, but also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains
>> silicone (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this
>> mentioned: http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering
>> what people here are using.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
I would be inclined to go for the "breathable cloth.
I have an unheated garage located in a Northern coastal Canadian suburb.
For two years I stored diesel engine parts. I covered most of the parts
with a bedspread. Those parts that were not covered did show heavy rust and
the covered one did not.
"William Andersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've always used Simoniz paste wasx.
> "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Dan wrote:
>>> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
>>> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the
>>> surface coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a
>>> coat of car wax or something to prevent rust?
>>
>> I use Top Cote, Top Saver, or paste wax, depending on what's handy. The
>> paste wax brands are Trewax, Johnsons, and Butcher's, depending on what
>> paint store I'm in when I need more.
>>
>> Nice saw!
Thanks for the replies. Yeah, I'm loving it so far. So accurate. I have a
Bosch 5412 sliding miter saw which for the life of me I have not been able
to produce a gapless mitered frame with, even though you'd think that's what
the damned thing was MADE for. I suspect it may be the blade that came with
it. Anyway, after just the initial mounting/adjusting of the fence on the
Powermatic, I cut a perfect 2' square mitered frame out of some of the wood
from the PALLET! NO gaps! I was stunned. The finish on the top is so
nice, want to make sure I protect it! A lot of people have suggested floor
wax in general & johnson's in particular, so I guess I'll try that 1st. For
those who use Johnson's, I'm assuming this is the one:
http://www.scjbrands.com/i/find/SCJ_pastewax.jpg
Dan
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "goaway" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Dan,
> > Truth be told, to really prevent rust, not just the stuff you see,
> > but the rust that forms in the innards of you tools as well, you must
> > control the cause of the rust, moisture. My shop is in the basement, the
> > temperature difference in the basement just promotes moisture condensation
> > on EVERYTHING, To reduce it, I run a dehumidifier. Yes the cost of
> > electric can be high, but I have a fair amount of my hard earned cash in
> > tools. Besides who wants a musty smelling basement anyway? Yes I do wax my
> > surfaces of my tools to help, but keeping the moisture away does most of
> > the work. I just can not afford to replace damaged tools.
> >
> > One minor note, it seems anytime I leave something on a surface, it
> > promotes the rusting activity even more. To that end I did buy from HTC
> > the "breathable" cloths. They do seems to work as advertised.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> >
> > "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> >> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the
> >> surface coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a
> >> coat of car wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax
> >> is OK, but also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains
> >> silicone (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this
> >> mentioned: http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering
> >> what people here are using.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >
> I would be inclined to go for the "breathable cloth.
> I have an unheated garage located in a Northern coastal Canadian suburb.
> For two years I stored diesel engine parts. I covered most of the parts
> with a bedspread. Those parts that were not covered did show heavy rust and
> the covered one did not.
I use Boeshield. So far, so good.
http://www.boeshield.com/
S.
I've always used Simoniz paste wasx.
"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dan wrote:
>> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
>> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the
>> surface coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a
>> coat of car wax or something to prevent rust?
>
> I use Top Cote, Top Saver, or paste wax, depending on what's handy. The
> paste wax brands are Trewax, Johnsons, and Butcher's, depending on what
> paint store I'm in when I need more.
>
> Nice saw!
Dan wrote:
> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
> coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
> wax or something to prevent rust?
I use Top Cote, Top Saver, or paste wax, depending on what's handy. The
paste wax brands are Trewax, Johnsons, and Butcher's, depending on what
paint store I'm in when I need more.
Nice saw!
Dan,
Truth be told, to really prevent rust, not just the stuff you see,
but the rust that forms in the innards of you tools as well, you must
control the cause of the rust, moisture. My shop is in the basement, the
temperature difference in the basement just promotes moisture condensation
on EVERYTHING, To reduce it, I run a dehumidifier. Yes the cost of electric
can be high, but I have a fair amount of my hard earned cash in tools.
Besides who wants a musty smelling basement anyway? Yes I do wax my surfaces
of my tools to help, but keeping the moisture away does most of the work. I
just can not afford to replace damaged tools.
One minor note, it seems anytime I leave something on a surface, it
promotes the rusting activity even more. To that end I did buy from HTC the
"breathable" cloths. They do seems to work as advertised.
Good luck
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
> coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
> wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but
> also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone
> (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:
> http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
> here are using.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan
>
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
> thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
> coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
> wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but
> also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone
> (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:
> http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
> here are using.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan
>
I use Johnson's paste wax. Pretty cheap and works ok for me. I live in a
near zero humidity climate however so you might consider something else like
Boeshield if you are in wet part of the country.
Cheers,
cc
I would suggest Top Cote which you can order through Woodcraft
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=7336&productid=124627
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:29:14 -0000, Charlie Self
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sep 17, 2:19 pm, "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Chrome it.
>>
>> "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > Got a Powermatic PM2000 delivered Friday. Got it all put together, this
>> > thing's SWEEEET!!!!! (sorry for the gloat!! ;-) I cleaned off the surface
>> > coating the factory puts on, I'm wondering if I should apply a coat of car
>> > wax or something to prevent rust? I have read that car wax is OK, but
>> > also that only floor wax should be used, as car wax contains silicone
>> > (though I'm not sure all car waxes do). I've also seen this mentioned:
>> >http://www.apar-supply.com/botosuluandr1.html I'm wondering what people
>> > here are using.
>>
>> > TIA
>>
>> > Dan
>
>It is generally better to avoid car waxes; some have silicone, which
>may cause problems with finishes at a later date (this isn't true of
>all, and often isn't a problem anyway because of the minuscule
>amounts, but, IMO, falls in the "Why take a chance?" category.
>
>I did an article for Woodwork that ran in August of '05 that may help,
>or may turn you to mixing your own waxes (which is what the article is
>really about). Check and see if your local library has a copy.