On Apr 11, 9:13 am, [email protected] wrote:
> hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> 1.180 degrees of rotation
> 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> 3.the hinge must be hidden
Soss makes hinges just for this application.
The barrel version is easiest to install, but not for the squeemish.
http://www.soss.com/
> > hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> > 1.180 degrees of rotation
> > 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> > 3.the hinge must be hidden
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=1079
or
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=40245&cat=3,41241,41265
LV also has a couple of 170 degree "euro" style hinges for inset doors
(do an item search on their page for 170)
Andy
On Apr 11, 2:49 pm, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 9:13 am, [email protected] wrote:
> >> hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> >> 1.180 degrees of rotation
> >> 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> >> 3.the hinge must be hidden
>
> > Soss makes hinges just for this application.
> > The barrel version is easiest to install, but not for the squeemish.
>
> >http://www.soss.com/
>
> I need to get me one of them 25/84 drill bits. ;-)http://www.soss.com/product/features/
>
. I keep one in my drill collection kit. My index goes from 1/84" to
1" in 84ths.
Doesn't everyone's?
(psssst..don't tell anybody, Bill, but a 10 mm might work...in a
pinch...lol)
On Apr 11, 10:28 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> > 1.180 degrees of rotation
> > 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> > 3.the hinge must be hidden
>
> As Andy has indicated, many Euro style hinges will get you real close to a
> 180 degree opening.
>
> That said, if your doors have pulls that stick out from the front of the
> door you will not be able to open the door 180 degrees regardless of what
> hinge you use. With that in mind, perhaps a little shy of 180 degrees will
> work also.
I still think a Soss hinge is a very elegant solution. I use them
often. People ooh and ahhh a lot when they see them..I mean..when they
don't see them....I mean...
On Apr 11, 9:13 am, [email protected] wrote:
> hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> 1.180 degrees of rotation
> 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> 3.the hinge must be hidden
I suggest a hinge no one has yet mentioned. It may require a slight
modification , to your door design but the hinge is excellent and
relatively inexpensive. It was used by professional cabinet makers
before the euro hinge was intoduced here. You can Google Youngdale
Hinges and see some data on them.
Joe G
> I still think a Soss hinge is a very elegant solution. I use them
> often. People ooh and ahhh a lot when they see them..I mean..when they
> don't see them....I mean...
Do you find them difficult to adjust? I was going to use some for a
small cabinet I'm making right now, but I read somewhere in the
archives that they could be kind of a pain to adjust. Maybe just
compared to the Blum-type hinges? I already bought some other hinges,
so it's not urgent for me, but I do like the idea of the hidden barrel
hinge, so maybe I'll keep them in mind for the future.
Andy
On Apr 11, 4:18 pm, "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I still think a Soss hinge is a very elegant solution. I use them
> > often. People ooh and ahhh a lot when they see them..I mean..when they
> > don't see them....I mean...
>
> Do you find them difficult to adjust? I was going to use some for a
> small cabinet I'm making right now, but I read somewhere in the
> archives that they could be kind of a pain to adjust. Maybe just
> compared to the Blum-type hinges? I already bought some other hinges,
> so it's not urgent for me, but I do like the idea of the hidden barrel
> hinge, so maybe I'll keep them in mind for the future.
> Andy
The width of the gap is easily adjusted with the barrel hinge. There
is a wee set-screw, which expands the base of the barrel which holds
it where you put it. So that adjustment is easy.... and it's all you
get. The rest is careful templating before drilling.
The regular hinges are adjustable by adding thin shims under the
flange. Again, doing it right the first time is the way to do it.
Those European hinges have made life real easy, but look like hell on
a furniture grade cabinet....imho
On Apr 11, 9:01 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I ordered the Grex P635 pinner today. Double the price of the
> Craftsman/Nikle model but handles pins from 3/8" to 1-3/8". I bought a
> starter kit version that included 9,000 pins in 9 different sizes. Shipped
> for just under $220.
Yup, that would be the one. Guess the Domino waits, huh? <G>
(Whats $220 in the scheme of things, eh?)
On Apr 11, 11:59 pm, "Charley" <[email protected]> wrote:
> A Youngdale hinge won't open to 180 degrees. They are about 115 degrees max.
>
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> Charley
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> > On Apr 11, 9:13 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > > hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> > > 1.180 degrees of rotation
> > > 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> > > 3.the hinge must be hidden
>
> > I suggest a hinge no one has yet mentioned. It may require a slight
> > modification , to your door design but the hinge is excellent and
> > relatively inexpensive. It was used by professional cabinet makers
> > before the euro hinge was intoduced here. You can Google Youngdale
> > Hinges and see some data on them.
> > Joe G- Hide quoted text -
>
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I did say in my post that you would need to alter your door design. If
not possible then Youngdale is not in the running.
Joe G
[email protected] wrote:
> hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> 1.180 degrees of rotation
> 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> 3.the hinge must be hidden
>
It's possible you're describing an "L" shaped knife hinge. Not 100%
hidden, but very little of the hinge shows at the top and bottom of the
door.
Rick
Robatoy wrote:
> On Apr 11, 9:13 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
>> 1.180 degrees of rotation
>> 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
>> 3.the hinge must be hidden
>
> Soss makes hinges just for this application.
> The barrel version is easiest to install, but not for the squeemish.
>
> http://www.soss.com/
I need to get me one of them 25/84 drill bits. ;-)
http://www.soss.com/product/features/
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Robatoy wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2:49 pm, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Apr 11, 9:13 am, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
>>>> 1.180 degrees of rotation
>>>> 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
>>>> 3.the hinge must be hidden
>>> Soss makes hinges just for this application.
>>> The barrel version is easiest to install, but not for the squeemish.
>>> http://www.soss.com/
>> I need to get me one of them 25/84 drill bits. ;-)http://www.soss.com/product/features/
>>
>
> . I keep one in my drill collection kit. My index goes from 1/84" to
> 1" in 84ths.
> Doesn't everyone's?
>
> (psssst..don't tell anybody, Bill, but a 10 mm might work...in a
> pinch...lol)
>
>
>
Yahhhh, just having some fun with the typo. Being something of a machine
-head, my eyeballs left skid marks when I saw that.
Me? I gots wire sizes, letter sizes, fractionals and mmmmmmmmmm's in a
variety of tip styles and OAL's. If I need a new tip style, I can
probably grind it by hand.
Just can't find any of those 84ths drills. Do you think it could be one
of those Chiwanese spec bits ... the ones made from 'high alloy steel'?
Bill
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A Youngdale hinge won't open to 180 degrees. They are about 115 degrees max.
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"GROVER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Apr 11, 9:13 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> > 1.180 degrees of rotation
> > 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> > 3.the hinge must be hidden
>
> I suggest a hinge no one has yet mentioned. It may require a slight
> modification , to your door design but the hinge is excellent and
> relatively inexpensive. It was used by professional cabinet makers
> before the euro hinge was intoduced here. You can Google Youngdale
> Hinges and see some data on them.
> Joe G
>
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
> 1.180 degrees of rotation
> 2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
> 3.the hinge must be hidden
>
As Andy has indicated, many Euro style hinges will get you real close to a
180 degree opening.
That said, if your doors have pulls that stick out from the front of the
door you will not be able to open the door 180 degrees regardless of what
hinge you use. With that in mind, perhaps a little shy of 180 degrees will
work also.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I ordered the Grex P635 pinner today. Double the price of the
Craftsman/Nikle model but handles pins from 3/8" to 1-3/8". I bought a
starter kit version that included 9,000 pins in 9 different sizes. Shipped
for just under $220.
On 11 Apr 2007 06:13:20 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>hi all my question is is there any hinge which satisfy the following,
>1.180 degrees of rotation
>2.door and cabinent front surface flushed
>3.the hinge must be hidden
Yes
Mark
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