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"stoutman"

05/03/2005 9:42 PM

Rousseau router plate in the trash

Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
time.


This topic has 25 replies

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loutent

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 8:33 PM

We need to come up with some good reason besides
plain ole' "turning" (for SWMBO's):

Like, let's see...

"It can be used to polish the
silver around holidays"

"If we need a salad bowl in a pinch..."

"Wood lamp? Sure honey...no problem...o"

I have nothing else. Need help. Want a lathe sitting
in my shop. Don't know why, just want one.


(Turning, turning, turning..."Rawhide" -
err...guess that's "rolling, rolling, rolling...)

Dating myself,

Lou


In article <[email protected]>,
Never Enough Money <[email protected]> wrote:

> Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.
>

NE

"Never Enough Money"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 4:16 PM

Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.

bf

"butch"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 6:59 PM

Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
to 3/8".

Also trying to figure out how to really anchor down an insert to reduce
the opening for larger bits - it maybe just as easy to build 2
different plates - one for large bits and the other for small.

Can't believe how pricey the sliding miter gauges are - paying $100+
for one of those is obscene - any suggestions?

thanks

bf

"butch"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 8:56 PM

Thanks - Woodpecker uses 3/8" aluminum plate - that is what I will use
and do it with 2 plates - hate to think what would happen to a bit if a
home made insert got into the bit - hear a big bang - not fun.

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 11:53 PM


"butch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
> to 3/8".
>
>

I have a PC 7539 hanging on a 1/4" plate with no sag. Darned router has got
to weigh near twenty pounds.
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=2822
Greg

DD

"Darrell Dorsey"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 8:43 PM


"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
> trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
> next time.

Even if you'd gotten lined up, you might not have liked it anyway. I had
one. My DW618 came with a centering tool so it was a little easier getting
it lined up. But I never really liked the plate anyway. I hated the crown
in the plate. The inserts never seemed to be flat and they were a pain to
install. I gave away my old open stand table and built a new cabinet style.
This time I used a Woodpeckers cast aluminum. Its' predrilled and fits
perfectly. I just bought the extra twist lock set of insert. You can go
even smaller with a set of 1 3/6" inserts from Lee Valley, (I'll be getting
these later). One word describes this setup, Sweettttttt!. Do yourself a
favor and check out the Woodpeckers plates.

Darrell

DD

"Darrell Dorsey"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 10:13 PM


"butch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
> to 3/8".
>
> Also trying to figure out how to really anchor down an insert to reduce
> the opening for larger bits - it maybe just as easy to build 2
> different plates - one for large bits and the other for small.

Or get one of these: http://www.woodpeck.com/aluminsert.html
Darrell

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 2:03 AM

CW wrote:
> Yes it is but I wouldn't make a router plate from it. It WILL sag.

HUH!

How big a plate are you making?

Something like a 10x12 with a typical PC type router certainly shouldn't
be a problem for a 1/4" thick piece of lexan.

Lew

DD

"Darrell Dorsey"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 8:47 PM


"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up.
>I wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice
>router table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top.
>The only complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting
>in the hole reducer rings.

One of the things, I really hated about this plate. The Woodpeckers is a
twistlock, very easy to get in and out.

Another thing I didn't like about the Rousseau was there was no means of
leveling. I talked to them and they sent me a leveling kit. But it looked
really flimsy. Gave the plate away with the table, but I actually still
have the leveling kit some where.

Darrell

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 9:02 PM

You would be fine with 1/4" aluminum.

"butch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sag is a concern - is 1/4" aluminum plate thick enough or should I go
> to 3/8".
>
> Also trying to figure out how to really anchor down an insert to reduce
> the opening for larger bits - it maybe just as easy to build 2
> different plates - one for large bits and the other for small.
>
> Can't believe how pricey the sliding miter gauges are - paying $100+
> for one of those is obscene - any suggestions?
>
> thanks
>

JC

"Joe C."

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 12:39 AM

Got mine as an 10th anniv gift from SWMBO. Love playing around on it (the
lathe), but sometimes wish that it was cheaper than, say, collecting
planes....


"Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.
>

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 4:35 AM

Leon wrote:

>
> I have a Bench Dog router table and HAD a 3/8" thick Lexan plate and my
> Triton made it sag enough that folded 20# paper could easily be slipped
> under a straight edge in the middle.

That is good skinny, I had no idea.

Thank you.

Lew

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 4:53 PM

Yes it is but I wouldn't make a router plate from it. It WILL sag.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> BTW, 1/4" sheet plastic such as lexan is a great material for making jigs.
>
>
> Lew
>

sa

"stoutman"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 2:07 AM

I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up. I
wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice router
table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top. The only
complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting in the
hole reducer rings. Other than that it seems pretty good.



"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
> trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
> next time.
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 1:59 PM

Most of the time you won't be fussing with the rings, unless you like
to use those mammoth router bits. Glad to hear you rescued the plate.

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 02:07:54 GMT, "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up. I
>wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice router
>table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top. The only
>complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting in the
>hole reducer rings. Other than that it seems pretty good.
>
>
>
>"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
>> trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
>> next time.
>>
>

JB

Jim Behning

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 3:44 PM

Good to hear you salvaged it. I was acurate on 3 holes and had to
wallow out the last hole to get mine to work.

"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I pulled it from the trash and widened the holes so now they all line up. I
>wanted to attach it to the side of my table saw so I made a practice router
>table top. It turned out so good that it became my "actual" top. The only
>complant I have against the rousseau is the difficulty in putting in the
>hole reducer rings. Other than that it seems pretty good.
>
>
>
>"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
>> trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
>> next time.
>>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 3:00 AM


"loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:050320052033447393%[email protected]...
> We need to come up with some good reason besides
> plain ole' "turning" (for SWMBO's):
>

Why? My wife has asked a couple of time, "why don't you have a lathe?"

LL

LRod

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 1:01 AM

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 21:42:00 GMT, "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
>trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
>time.

Send it to me. I love my Rousseaus. No reason not to have another one,
even though it's been defaced, reducing its sale value to zero.


- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

JC

"Joe C."

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 11:07 PM

Here's what I did to install my Hitachi M12V in my Rousseau plate.

On the lathe, I turned a stepped spindle. One end I turned exactly 1/2".
The other end I turned to match the smallest hole (ring) in the rousseau
plate (I forget what the diameter was). Chucked this little beauty in my
router, dropped the plate over it and that sucker wouldn't budge. While it
was clamped in place (to prevent slippage), I used a scribe to outline the
base of the router on the bottom of the baseplate. The M12V has one
straight edge on the base, which helped, but wasn't necessary to make this
method work. Then, unclamped everything and lined up the M12V subbase on
the scribed line, clamped in place and marked hole locations. Went to the
drill press, Bob's your uncle, and everything lined up perfectly. Hope this
helps for your next try.

Joe C.


"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
> trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate
next
> time.
>
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 1:57 PM

I just have to warn you. Turning can be very addictive. I thought I
spent an hour turning, and 5 hours passed by. I probably spent too
much $ on my lathe, the accessories can quickly add up.

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 20:33:44 -0500, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:

>We need to come up with some good reason besides
>plain ole' "turning" (for SWMBO's):
>
>Like, let's see...
>
>"It can be used to polish the
>silver around holidays"
>
>"If we need a salad bowl in a pinch..."
>
>"Wood lamp? Sure honey...no problem...o"
>
>I have nothing else. Need help. Want a lathe sitting
>in my shop. Don't know why, just want one.
>
>
>(Turning, turning, turning..."Rawhide" -
> err...guess that's "rolling, rolling, rolling...)
>
>Dating myself,
>
>Lou
>
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Never Enough Money <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.
>>

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 12:46 AM

Never Enough Money wrote:
> Some us don't have lathes. We want one but don't have one...yet.
>

And your point is?

Lew

JB

Jim Behning

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 10:03 PM

Did you use the install guide kit? The Bosch kit has 4 pointy srcews
you thread into the router base that you thump to make marks on the
plate. Think of it as a 4x center punch. the kit also comes with a
centering guide so your router ends up in the middle of the plate. If
you screw up you just try again. There should be enough space on the
plate to try 3 times.

"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
>trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
>time.
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 3:21 AM

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 21:42:00 GMT, "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
>trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
>time.
>

I did not have any problems with the Rousseau and I have the PC 7518.
I may have used a spring-loaded self centering awl used to center
hinge screws. I used a drill press to drill the holes. I'm sure you
can salvage the plate.

BTW, I made a frame jig made from 4 pieces of 1/2" thick ply. These
pieces are 8" longer and dadoed to make a nice sturdy frame. The
extra length does two things: makes dados rather than (weaker) half
lap joints, and provides plenty of clamping areas. The Rousseau
instructions say to use two "L"s as a router guide to cut the hole,
but the frame is much sturdier. I also made a test cut on some scrap
mdf before cutting into my trimmed laminated router table top which I
put several hours work.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

06/03/2005 3:48 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CW wrote:
>> Yes it is but I wouldn't make a router plate from it. It WILL sag.
>
> HUH!
>
> How big a plate are you making?
>
> Something like a 10x12 with a typical PC type router certainly shouldn't
> be a problem for a 1/4" thick piece of lexan.


I have a Bench Dog router table and HAD a 3/8" thick Lexan plate and my
Triton made it sag enough that folded 20# paper could easily be slipped
under a straight edge in the middle. I had not suspected any sag until
tennons cut in 2 passes were coming out stepped. For about 2 years a large
Bosch had been hanging from the other side of the plate with no sag. Last
week I switched to a 3/8" thick phenolic plate.

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:42 PM

05/03/2005 10:53 PM

stoutman wrote:
> Couldnt line up the dam holes when drilling it out for my PC 7518. I
> trashed it. Ooops. Think im gonna get a predrilled router table blate next
> time.
>
>

Dig that little puppy out of the trash and use it as a template to trim
a piece of 1/4" lexan you get from your local plastics remnant bin to
make a replacement.

Probably get enought lexan to make a couple of inserts for a few $.

BTW, 1/4" sheet plastic such as lexan is a great material for making jigs.


Lew


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