saw an interesting store needed no wood for the structure nor steel beams
the structure was made from ship steel plates
i did not know that ship hulls are made by bending the giant steel plates
into very specific curved shapes using heat and cool simultaneously
they took the same technique and built a store
it had 18-25 foot high arching roof line and inside it was all open
maybe 30-40 feet wide
sort a quonset meets a-frame look
they purposefully let a coat of rust build up on the surface and
they predict that the structure is good for 100 years
an architect built his house this way too
they use copious amounts of water over one part of the steel and then
heat the other with torches
these are massive steel plates
they do use wood for the interior so some wood working required
i like the idea of fire and forget buildings
no roofing repairs and no painting
not sure about tornadoes or hurricanes but it won't burn down
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 1:19:55 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>>> saw an interesting store needed no wood for the structure nor steel
>>> beams the structure was made from ship steel plates
>>>
>>>
>>> i like the idea of fire and forget buildings
>>> no roofing repairs and no painting
>>> not sure about tornadoes or hurricanes but it won't burn down
>>
>> What about windows? How did they add windows into this steel plate?
>> Windows on ships are non-existent in the hull I think.
>>
>
> Ummmmm... cut holes and insert sealed windows. I think you are quite
> wrong about windows not being installed in the steel hull of a ship.
Well, technically he's right - ships have portholes, not windows.
But I suspect what he had in mind was the curved part of the hull
(i.e. the bilges) below the waterline.
The problem I see with a steel building (other than the absurd
cost) is heating and cooling. You'd have to ceil(*) the insides,
and put in plenty of insulation.
John
(* everyone other than Lew now heads for their dictionaries...)
On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 1:19:55 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> saw an interesting store needed no wood for the structure nor steel beams
> the structure was made from ship steel plates
>
>
> i like the idea of fire and forget buildings
> no roofing repairs and no painting
> not sure about tornadoes or hurricanes but it won't burn down
What about windows? How did they add windows into this steel plate? Windows on ships are non-existent in the hull I think.
A brick house with steel sheeting/panels for the roof would be very close to your "fire and forget building". And it would have the advantage of not looking odd anywhere.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 1:19:55 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> saw an interesting store needed no wood for the structure nor steel
>> beams the structure was made from ship steel plates
>>
>>
>> i like the idea of fire and forget buildings
>> no roofing repairs and no painting
>> not sure about tornadoes or hurricanes but it won't burn down
>
> What about windows? How did they add windows into this steel plate?
> Windows on ships are non-existent in the hull I think.
>
Ummmmm... cut holes and insert sealed windows. I think you are quite wrong
about windows not being installed in the steel hull of a ship.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 22 May 2015 10:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> What about windows? How did they add windows into this steel plate?
cutting torch
> A brick house with steel sheeting/panels for the roof would be very
> close to your "fire and forget building". And it would have the
> advantage of not looking odd anywhere.
no
On Fri, 22 May 2015 18:28:08 +0000 (UTC)
John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> The problem I see with a steel building (other than the absurd
> cost) is heating and cooling. You'd have to ceil(*) the insides,
> and put in plenty of insulation.
cost amortized over 100 yrs is probably really competitive.
i do not know the initial cost but it does require highly skilled
craftsmen
the store and the architect house i saw had high roofs and a
quonset hut look
the ends were where all the light entered
the interior is completely free from structural support and that is
the part that i like
i have no idea of the r-value of those plates but climate
control would have to be worked out of course
perhaps use the temp differential like subterranean heat pump does
Electric Comet wrote:
> saw an interesting store needed no wood for the structure nor steel beams
> the structure was made from ship steel plates
>
> i did not know that ship hulls are made by bending the giant steel plates
> into very specific curved shapes using heat and cool simultaneously
>
> they took the same technique and built a store
> it had 18-25 foot high arching roof line and inside it was all open
> maybe 30-40 feet wide
> sort a quonset meets a-frame look
>
> they purposefully let a coat of rust build up on the surface and
> they predict that the structure is good for 100 years
>
> an architect built his house this way too
>
> they use copious amounts of water over one part of the steel and then
> heat the other with torches
>
> these are massive steel plates
>
> they do use wood for the interior so some wood working required
>
> i like the idea of fire and forget buildings
> no roofing repairs and no painting
> not sure about tornadoes or hurricanes but it won't burn down
>
archy lives
--
GW Ross