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Mark

24/07/2009 10:10 AM

OT: Timber frame building

Is there a good place to learn more and get advice on timber frame building?


thanks

mark


This topic has 12 replies

CS

"C & S"

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

25/07/2009 11:56 AM

When you are building your own home, time does become money. For the most
part I did my 12x22 4-bent shed/barn with almost a couple several dollar
tool budget (next to nothing):1/2" drill, 1.5" framing chisel and some odds
and ends.

The first time saver I would invest in would be a big circular saw.Ideally
big enough to cuth through half of your biggest beam. Then I would beg
borrow or steal a chain mortiser. Hogging out mortises turned out to be a
huge investment in time and tendons, (thats tight I said tendons not
tennons) .


Cheers,

Steve




"Elrond Hubbard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> I will be doing everything myself and been researching it. I Already
>> have the plans. I will be milling the beams myself with a Granberg
>> Alaskan Mill(which is where i live btw)
>> and a John Deere chainsaw (i didn't even know they made em!) I already
>> own the lad right out. I will be moving to my land an about 6 weeks. I
>> intend to build a small stick frame cabin for over winter and do the
>> timber frame next year.
>
>
>
> I don't know what your tool budget is, but you'll want a good 1 1/2"
> framing chisel and a rugged mallet for starters. A 10" circ saw makes
> short work of tenons. We use these daily:
>
>
> http://barrtools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
> Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BST&Category_Code=FABC
>
>
> http://www.woodisgoodco.com/mallets.htm
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ASHLA8/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?
> pf_rd_p=304485901&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201
> &pf_rd_i=B0000223IM&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0QA8180GR7ZKVW2BRSNY
>
>
> If you can rent, borrow or steal a chainsaw mortiser, you will cut the
> joint cutting time in half:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Makita-7104L-Amp-Chain-
> Mortiser/dp/B0002HC2VQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248535453&sr=8-1
>
>
> Good luck, and have fun!
>
> Scott
>
>
>

Ss

"StephenM"

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

24/07/2009 2:23 PM

That's not OT.

I timberframed a small barn in my back yard 2 summers ago. My major sources
of info were:

This book:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=42789&cat=1,46096,46108

these PDF's: http://www.tfguild.org/joinery/joinery.html

and a one-day seminar at Lee Valley.

From what perspective are asking? Do you want to build a timber frame
structure, hire someone to make one for you, of just learn about the
methodology?

-Steve

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is there a good place to learn more and get advice on timber frame
> building?
>
>
> thanks
>
> mark

aJ

[email protected] (Jerry - OHIO)

in reply to "StephenM" on 24/07/2009 2:23 PM

25/07/2009 3:19 AM

That's " ON TOPIC "
Jerry


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Andy Dingley

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

26/07/2009 2:30 PM

On 24 July, 19:10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there a good place to learn more and get advice on timber frame building?

Sobon's book is a good start.

Beyond that, you have to say what you mean by "timber frame" There's
a lot of variation in that - round here it means (on a good day) re-
creating medieval work in oak, with seriously complicated joinery.
That's a long way from tubafours and rockwall.

Mm

Mark

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

24/07/2009 8:37 PM


I will be doing everything myself and been researching it. I Already
have the plans. I will be milling the beams myself with a Granberg
Alaskan Mill(which is where i live btw)
and a John Deere chainsaw (i didn't even know they made em!) I already
own the lad right out. I will be moving to my land an about 6 weeks. I
intend to build a small stick frame cabin for over winter and do the
timber frame next year.

mark



> From what perspective are asking? Do you want to build a timber frame
> structure, hire someone to make one for you, of just learn about the
> methodology?
>
> -Steve
>
> "Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Is there a good place to learn more and get advice on timber frame
>> building?
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> mark
>
>

Mm

Mark

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

25/07/2009 6:18 PM

> Don't know whose they are these days; mine is about 30 yr old and is
> base Echo saw in yellow drag... :)


John Deere green here!

> Other recommendations good; only question I'd as is what size timbers
> you planning on?


the plans call for the biggest to be 7X9

EH

Elrond Hubbard

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

25/07/2009 3:26 PM

Mark <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> I will be doing everything myself and been researching it. I Already
> have the plans. I will be milling the beams myself with a Granberg
> Alaskan Mill(which is where i live btw)
> and a John Deere chainsaw (i didn't even know they made em!) I already
> own the lad right out. I will be moving to my land an about 6 weeks. I
> intend to build a small stick frame cabin for over winter and do the
> timber frame next year.



I don't know what your tool budget is, but you'll want a good 1 1/2"
framing chisel and a rugged mallet for starters. A 10" circ saw makes
short work of tenons. We use these daily:


http://barrtools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BST&Category_Code=FABC


http://www.woodisgoodco.com/mallets.htm


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ASHLA8/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?
pf_rd_p=304485901&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201
&pf_rd_i=B0000223IM&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0QA8180GR7ZKVW2BRSNY


If you can rent, borrow or steal a chainsaw mortiser, you will cut the
joint cutting time in half:


http://www.amazon.com/Makita-7104L-Amp-Chain-
Mortiser/dp/B0002HC2VQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248535453&sr=8-1


Good luck, and have fun!

Scott


LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

24/07/2009 7:29 PM

On Jul 24, 11:10=A0am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there a good place to learn more and get advice on timber frame buildi=
ng?

I found books by Ted Benson useful when I was building my timberframe
solarium (http://www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/galleria.html). I don't
remember which one exactly, but it was before 1998.

Luigi

dn

dpb

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

25/07/2009 10:53 AM

Mark wrote:
...
> and a John Deere chainsaw (i didn't even know they made em!) ...

They don't; they're simply branded.

Don't know whose they are these days; mine is about 30 yr old and is
base Echo saw in yellow drag... :)

Other recommendations good; only question I'd as is what size timbers
you planning on?

--

dn

dpb

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

25/07/2009 9:56 PM

Mark wrote:
>> Don't know whose they are these days; mine is about 30 yr old and is
>> base Echo saw in yellow drag... :)
>
>
> John Deere green here!
>
>> Other recommendations good; only question I'd as is what size timbers
>> you planning on?
>
>
> the plans call for the biggest to be 7X9

Not terribly large but you'll still find the investment in larger saw
valuable, then...

--

TW

"Tim W"

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

24/07/2009 9:49 PM


"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there a good place to learn more and get advice on timber frame
> building?
>

this is a good introduction:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oak-framed-Buildings-Rupert-Newman/dp/1861083793/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248471972&sr=1-1

But there is a lot of variation across the world. where are you?

And what do you want to know about? History, Modern buildings, technical
stuff?

Tim w

kb

klaatu

in reply to Mark on 24/07/2009 10:10 AM

24/07/2009 5:01 PM

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:10:01 -0800, Mark <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is there a good place to learn more and get advice on timber frame building?
>
>
>thanks
>
>mark
http://www.tfguild.org/
Look for a workshop in your area. I took one at
Shaker Hancock Village in MA, One of the best
week's vacations I've had.


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