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GarageWoodworks

27/08/2010 12:19 PM

OT: Ping -Mike- My kid rocks on the drums.

Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY


This topic has 36 replies

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GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 3:36 PM

On Aug 27, 5:09=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/27/10 4:45 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> >> On a side note... see how far you can drop those toms down over the ba=
ss
> >> drum and flatten out the floor tom... maybe he'll be able to sit down
> >> while playing.
> >> Never too early to get him started on an efficient technique.
>
> > I positioned them that way for me because I cant get them
> > interested. =A0:^(
> > Are they still in a crazy position even for me?
>
> Not necessarily.
> For good technique, in general, the stick should be in line with your
> forearm at the time the stick strikes the drum. =A0The angle at which the
> stick strikes the head should be very acute, close to parallel. =A0The
> shoulder of the stick should be pretty close to the rim of the drum when
> striking.
>
> > It's crazy. =A0When I was a kid I begged for a drum set and NEVER got
> > one (cue the tears.)
> > These kids have one and it's like pulling teeth to get them to sit at
> > it. =A0Maybe my oldest would benefit from lessons.
>
> This may be a good reason to buy them a quieter instrument. =A0:-)

Nah, I love the sound of the drums. Of course they sound better with
rhythm.
They sound better after getting all new top heads (Remo Pinstripes).
I recently replaced the cymbals with Sabian B8's (affordable and sound
ok). I also added a splash. I still, I mean the kids, still need a
ride.




>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 3:49 PM

On Aug 27, 2:24=A0pm, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> That wasn't the kid playing, you know.

Uhhh yeah, I could kinda tell. I have been playing for about 40 years.
Nice trick though and always good to getthem started young.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 2:40 PM

On Aug 28, 5:21=A0pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 8/28/10 5:13 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > On Aug 28, 5:04 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> > .
>
> >> I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's bee=
n
> >> through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
> >> through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. =A0 :-=
)
>
> > Did I miss Porcaro? Zack Starkey? Ringo? (I'm serious about Ringo,
> > btw. After all, he was only the drummer for the best frickin' band
> > ever!)<more Nomex>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarCenterTV#p/u/42/uP-ZjbrNLWU
>
> Jason and a bit of John, this rocks.
>
> --
> Froz...
>
> The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

I see your Bonham and raise you to the Moon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoP65fJu7_J4&feature=3Dfvsr

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 1:26 PM

On Aug 27, 12:19=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Child prodigy? =A0Maybe... =A0 =A0:^)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY

Nice!

Coming from a fellow drummer, who recently sold his 8 piece, 12 zildj
Tama Custome Maple set I say keep him banging.

My older daughter just left back to college so I get to setup my
Roland TD20 set again in her room (my studio) so I'll be punching out
some of my own riffs soon. Even though I just saw that Roland has a
newer version of TD system on the market so it is back to saving up
another $7k to upgrade because I need to have the best.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 2:13 PM

On Aug 27, 4:10=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/27/10 2:19 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > Child prodigy? =A0Maybe... =A0 =A0:^)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY
>
> That was a rough start, but man he really fell into a nice groove there.
> I hate how the audio and video never seem to sync up on youtube, though.
> =A0 ;-)
>

LOL :^)

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 2:50 PM


"Robatoy" wrote:

> After watching Neil Peart at the Rush concert here in good old
> Sarnia
a few weeks back....MOST drummers are douches compared to him. Lemme
see now.... I have seen Terry Clarke in Toronto, Buddy Rich in a
shoot-
out with Steven Gadd in Rochester NY. I have yet to see Carter
Beauford, who has the edge on cool. Good drummers can be amazing, the
rest suck. <G> (Present company not included.) Okay I guess Art Blakey
sortakinda knows what he is doing. <G>
<Nomex on>
---------------------------------
Krupa.

Lew

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 7:15 PM

On Aug 28, 9:56=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 8/28/2010 4:13 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > On Aug 28, 5:04 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> > .
>
> >> I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's bee=
n
> >> through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
> >> through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. =A0 :-=
)
>
> > Did I miss Porcaro? Zack Starkey? Ringo? (I'm serious about Ringo,
> > btw. After all, he was only the drummer for the best frickin' band
> > ever!)<more Nomex>
>
> Oh, I'm pretty sure you've heard Porcaro's playing... =A0He was a huge pr=
esence
> in the studio scene, which you probably already figure out from Mike's po=
st.
> Here are a few of his most well known performances:
>
> Boz Scaggs - Lido Shufflehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8s8l75Oxf1U
>
> Boz Scaggs - Lowdownhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D65EoK4OelZU
>
> Toto - Rosannahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGq4ychrRkQA
>
> Michael Jackson - Beat Ithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAtR914o7kZ4
>
> Don Henley - Dirty Laundry
> (couldn't find a decent link)
>
> Elton John - Blue Eyeshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DanaO025OE-g
>
> --
> "Our beer goes through thousands of quality Czechs every day."
> (From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

I liked his stuff in Steely Dan a lot.

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 2:45 PM

On Aug 27, 4:40=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/27/10 4:13 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > On Aug 27, 4:10 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> On 8/27/10 2:19 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> >>> Child prodigy? =A0Maybe... =A0 =A0:^)
>
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY
>
> >> That was a rough start, but man he really fell into a nice groove ther=
e.
> >> I hate how the audio and video never seem to sync up on youtube, thoug=
h.
> >> =A0 =A0;-)
>
> > LOL =A0:^)
>
> On a side note... see how far you can drop those toms down over the bass
> drum and flatten out the floor tom... maybe he'll be able to sit down
> while playing.
> Never too early to get him started on an efficient technique.

I positioned them that way for me because I cant get them
interested. :^(
Are they still in a crazy position even for me?

It's crazy. When I was a kid I begged for a drum set and NEVER got
one (cue the tears.)
These kids have one and it's like pulling teeth to get them to sit at
it. Maybe my oldest would benefit from lessons.


>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 2:48 PM

On Aug 27, 4:40=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/27/2010 4:10 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
> > On 8/27/10 2:19 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> >> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY
>
> > That was a rough start, but man he really fell into a nice groove there=
.
> > I hate how the audio and video never seem to sync up on youtube, though=
.
> > ;-)
>
> Yep ... and that magic hat with an amazing snappy snare sound! =A0;)

You aren't supposed to notice those details!

>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 1:31 PM

On Aug 27, 3:26=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 12:19=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Child prodigy? =A0Maybe... =A0 =A0:^)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY
>
> Nice!
>
> Coming from a fellow drummer, who recently sold his 8 piece, 12 zildj
> Tama Custome Maple set I say keep him banging.
>
> My older daughter just left back to college so I get to setup my
> Roland TD20 set again in her room (my studio) so I'll be punching out
> some of my own riffs soon. Even though I just saw that Roland has a
> newer version of TD system on the market so it is back to saving up
> another $7k to upgrade because I need to have the best.

I only wish it was really him playing :^)

I bought the set for my 7-year old and I play the dam thing more than
the kids!!

I can play a few 'basic' beats and I've made up my own fills, but they
are kinda weak. What kills me the most with playing is counting, Is
it necessary to always count? Or is just recommended for beginners
until they get the feel for it?

MM

"Micajah"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 2:51 PM



"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ed0681d4-6a1e-4ce8-8e28-7ffab2a6e57f@w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 28, 5:04 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> .
>>
>> I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's been
>> through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
>> through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. :-)
>>
>
> Did I miss Porcaro? Zack Starkey? Ringo? (I'm serious about Ringo,
> btw. After all, he was only the drummer for the best frickin' band
> ever!)<more Nomex>

Here's one of the better drummers. His sticks are in the R&R Hall of Fame.

http://www.waynewoods.com/about.html

Micajah

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 5:50 PM

My oldest was a concert percussionist in school from Grade 7 to grade 13,
and a damn good one too. (being an old musician way back). Played at some
larger halls in concert..had a tough music teacher but the kids were
dedicated and it showed.

Trouble is, even at 33 years old now he stills likes c)RAP and hip-hop where
they put on a $25 drum box , with a simple beat, and act stupid too it. I
don't get it.


"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:62be7dcb-0181-4a4f-adfb-8eca674470e7@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
I positioned them that way for me because I cant get them
interested. :^(
Are they still in a crazy position even for me?

It's crazy. When I was a kid I begged for a drum set and NEVER got
one (cue the tears.)
These kids have one and it's like pulling teeth to get them to sit at
it. Maybe my oldest would benefit from lessons.



Cc

"CW"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 2:24 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:40dc6346-2f9e-418c-973f-47d0987be5be@l32g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 27, 12:19 pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY

Nice!

Coming from a fellow drummer, who recently sold his 8 piece, 12 zildj
Tama Custome Maple set I say keep him banging.

My older daughter just left back to college so I get to setup my
Roland TD20 set again in her room (my studio) so I'll be punching out
some of my own riffs soon. Even though I just saw that Roland has a
newer version of TD system on the market so it is back to saving up
another $7k to upgrade because I need to have the best.

That wasn't the kid playing, you know. First hint was the extreme hum from
the recording. Second hind was that drums were playing without him having to
touch them.

ww

willshak

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 6:38 PM

GarageWoodworks wrote the following:
> On Aug 27, 3:26 pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 27, 12:19 pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY
>>>
>> Nice!
>>
>> Coming from a fellow drummer, who recently sold his 8 piece, 12 zildj
>> Tama Custome Maple set I say keep him banging.
>>
>> My older daughter just left back to college so I get to setup my
>> Roland TD20 set again in her room (my studio) so I'll be punching out
>> some of my own riffs soon. Even though I just saw that Roland has a
>> newer version of TD system on the market so it is back to saving up
>> another $7k to upgrade because I need to have the best.
>>
>
> I only wish it was really him playing :^)
>

I'm glad you owned up.
It looked like it was him at the start, but then the drumming seemed to
be coming from someone, or some thing, other than him.

> I bought the set for my 7-year old and I play the dam thing more than
> the kids!!
>
> I can play a few 'basic' beats and I've made up my own fills, but they
> are kinda weak. What kills me the most with playing is counting, Is
> it necessary to always count? Or is just recommended for beginners
> until they get the feel for it?
>
>


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 2:58 PM

On Aug 28, 5:50=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote:
> > After watching Neil Peart at the Rush concert here in good old
> > Sarnia
>
> a few weeks back....MOST drummers are douches compared to him. Lemme
> see now.... I have seen Terry Clarke in Toronto, Buddy Rich in a
> shoot-
> out with Steven Gadd in Rochester NY. I have yet to see Carter
> Beauford, who has the edge on cool. Good drummers can be amazing, the
> rest suck. <G> (Present company not included.) Okay I guess Art Blakey
> sortakinda knows what he is doing. <G>
> <Nomex on>
> ---------------------------------
> Krupa.
>
> Lew

Charlie Watts

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 4:02 PM

On Aug 27, 2:19=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Child prodigy? =A0Maybe... =A0 =A0:^)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY

Gotta give credit to the "real" drummer: :^)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg8XivbFvQ1E

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 11:18 AM

On Aug 27, 7:27=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/27/10 6:02 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > On Aug 27, 2:19 pm, GarageWoodworks<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Child prodigy? =A0Maybe... =A0 =A0:^)
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY
>
> > Gotta give credit to the "real" drummer: =A0 =A0:^)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg8XivbFvQ1E
>
> He's such a douche.
>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

After watching Neil Peart at the Rush concert here in good old Sarnia
a few weeks back....MOST drummers are douches compared to him. Lemme
see now.... I have seen Terry Clarke in Toronto, Buddy Rich in a shoot-
out with Steven Gadd in Rochester NY. I have yet to see Carter
Beauford, who has the edge on cool. Good drummers can be amazing, the
rest suck. <G> (Present company not included.) Okay I guess Art Blakey
sortakinda knows what he is doing. <G>
<Nomex on>

Gb

GarageWoodworks

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 4:31 PM

On Aug 27, 6:27=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/27/10 6:02 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > On Aug 27, 2:19 pm, GarageWoodworks<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Child prodigy? =A0Maybe... =A0 =A0:^)
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFL9X_4juSKY
>
> > Gotta give credit to the "real" drummer: =A0 =A0:^)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg8XivbFvQ1E
>
> He's such a douche.

Gotta love the mullet thought! :^)

>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 2:13 PM

On Aug 28, 5:04=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
.
>
> I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's been
> through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
> through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. =A0 :-)
>

Did I miss Porcaro? Zack Starkey? Ringo? (I'm serious about Ringo,
btw. After all, he was only the drummer for the best frickin' band
ever!)<more Nomex>

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 3:55 PM

=A0Maybe my oldest would benefit from lessons....

Well, a good teacher will start them with stick control and boring
drills so if they don't have the interest to get started this may not
be the best instrument to develop interest in that way. It was 4 years
of snare or bass or cymble or glockinspiel or clave' before they let
me sit on a full kit.

I think drum kits should be setup to look as cool as possible without
obscuring the obligatory tortuous face expressions of the drummer
during balls-out solos.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 4:10 PM

On 8/27/10 2:19 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY


That was a rough start, but man he really fell into a nice groove there.
I hate how the audio and video never seem to sync up on youtube, though.
;-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 4:14 PM

On 8/27/2010 2:19 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY

LOL!

--
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 4:30 PM

On 8/27/2010 3:31 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Aug 27, 3:26 pm, "SonomaProducts.com"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 12:19 pm, GarageWoodworks<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY
>>
>> Nice!
>>
>> Coming from a fellow drummer, who recently sold his 8 piece, 12 zildj
>> Tama Custome Maple set I say keep him banging.
>>
>> My older daughter just left back to college so I get to setup my
>> Roland TD20 set again in her room (my studio) so I'll be punching out
>> some of my own riffs soon. Even though I just saw that Roland has a
>> newer version of TD system on the market so it is back to saving up
>> another $7k to upgrade because I need to have the best.
>
> I only wish it was really him playing :^)
>
> I bought the set for my 7-year old and I play the dam thing more than
> the kids!!
>
> I can play a few 'basic' beats and I've made up my own fills, but they
> are kinda weak. What kills me the most with playing is counting, Is
> it necessary to always count? Or is just recommended for beginners
> until they get the feel for it?

Yes, pretty much any teacher is going to recommend that you count, and though
you'll eventually reach a point where you can internalize it and stop doing it
explicitly, its value never really goes away. Even the top pros still use it
as a fundamental tool for learning new rhythms. Part of learning to drum is
teaching all your limbs to work independently from each other while still
working together, and in a way you can view the act of counting as yet another
independent and cooperating "limb". Also, picture yourself (someday) as a
drummer who can also sing (assuming you can carry a tune!). I'm willing to bet
that most singing drummers are also counting drummers, or could do so quite easily.

--
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 4:40 PM

On 8/27/10 4:13 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Aug 27, 4:10 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 8/27/10 2:19 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>
>>> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY
>>
>> That was a rough start, but man he really fell into a nice groove there.
>> I hate how the audio and video never seem to sync up on youtube, though.
>> ;-)
>>
>
> LOL :^)

On a side note... see how far you can drop those toms down over the bass
drum and flatten out the floor tom... maybe he'll be able to sit down
while playing.
Never too early to get him started on an efficient technique.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 5:09 PM

On 8/27/10 4:45 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> On a side note... see how far you can drop those toms down over the bass
>> drum and flatten out the floor tom... maybe he'll be able to sit down
>> while playing.
>> Never too early to get him started on an efficient technique.
>
> I positioned them that way for me because I cant get them
> interested. :^(
> Are they still in a crazy position even for me?
>

Not necessarily.
For good technique, in general, the stick should be in line with your
forearm at the time the stick strikes the drum. The angle at which the
stick strikes the head should be very acute, close to parallel. The
shoulder of the stick should be pretty close to the rim of the drum when
striking.


> It's crazy. When I was a kid I begged for a drum set and NEVER got
> one (cue the tears.)
> These kids have one and it's like pulling teeth to get them to sit at
> it. Maybe my oldest would benefit from lessons.
>

This may be a good reason to buy them a quieter instrument. :-)


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in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 5:56 PM

On 8/27/10 5:49 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2:24 pm, "CW"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "SonomaProducts.com"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> That wasn't the kid playing, you know.
>
> Uhhh yeah, I could kinda tell. I have been playing for about 40 years.
> Nice trick though and always good to getthem started young.

You play? Cool... didn't know.


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in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 5:56 PM

On 8/27/10 5:38 PM, willshak wrote:
>> I only wish it was really him playing :^)
>
> I'm glad you owned up.
>

Really?


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in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 6:02 PM

On 8/27/10 5:55 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> Maybe my oldest would benefit from lessons....
>
> Well, a good teacher will start them with stick control and boring
> drills so if they don't have the interest to get started this may not
> be the best instrument to develop interest in that way. It was 4 years
> of snare or bass or cymble or glockinspiel or clave' before they let
> me sit on a full kit.
>

That's kind of the old school curriculum.

Most teachers now-a-days have learned that if they want to retain
students, they need to keep them interested and motivated. They get
them on a kit right away, and teach them songs they know and want to
play. When I taught*, I would split the lesson between reading, hands,
and full set.


*Mr Miyagi says, "No such thing as bad student, only bad teacher." :-)


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in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 6:27 PM

On 8/27/10 6:02 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2:19 pm, GarageWoodworks<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY
>
> Gotta give credit to the "real" drummer: :^)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8XivbFvQ1E

He's such a douche.


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in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 4:04 PM

On 8/28/10 1:18 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 27, 7:27 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Gotta give credit to the "real" drummer: :^)
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8XivbFvQ1E
>>
>> He's such a douche.
>>
>> --
>>
>> -MIKE-
>
> After watching Neil Peart at the Rush concert here in good old Sarnia
> a few weeks back....MOST drummers are douches compared to him. Lemme
> see now....

I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's been
through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. :-)


> I have seen Terry Clarke in Toronto, Buddy Rich in a shoot-
> out with Steven Gadd in Rochester NY. I have yet to see Carter
> Beauford, who has the edge on cool.

Carter is cool and very talented.
Only problem is, in order to hear him play, one has to listen to Dave
sing. :-)


> Good drummers can be amazing, the
> rest suck.<G> (Present company not included.)

I'm not sure if I should feel insulted or complimented. :-)


> Okay I guess Art Blakey
> sortakinda knows what he is doing.<G>
> <Nomex on>

Those old school cats guys are in a different league.
There's a new breed taking up the tradition, however.
Brian Blade and Antonio Sanchez come to mind.


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FrozenNorth

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 5:21 PM

On 8/28/10 5:13 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 28, 5:04 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
> .
>>
>> I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's been
>> through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
>> through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. :-)
>>
>
> Did I miss Porcaro? Zack Starkey? Ringo? (I'm serious about Ringo,
> btw. After all, he was only the drummer for the best frickin' band
> ever!)<more Nomex>

http://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarCenterTV#p/u/42/uP-ZjbrNLWU

Jason and a bit of John, this rocks.

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in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 5:02 PM

On 8/28/10 4:13 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 28, 5:04 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
> .
>>
>> I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's been
>> through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
>> through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. :-)
>>
>
> Did I miss Porcaro? Zack Starkey? Ringo? (I'm serious about Ringo,
> btw. After all, he was only the drummer for the best frickin' band
> ever!)<more Nomex>

Ringo....
I was on a tour bus that was out with Bruce Springsteen the week before
we we were out on it. They were also scheduled to head off and pick up
Ringo Starr after dropping us off us in Austin, TX.

Try as I might to find a Pete Best Biography to leave on the bathroom
sink, I just couldn't do it in time. I thought about making a poster to
hang in the back suite that read, "Pete Best is Best!" but alas, I lost
my nerve. As a younger man, I wouldn't have thought twice. :-)

Porcaro? He played on a few records. :-)
http://www.toto99.com/disco/jeffdisco.shtml


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Steve Turner

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 7:28 PM

On 8/28/2010 4:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote:
>
>> After watching Neil Peart at the Rush concert here in good old
>> Sarnia
> a few weeks back....MOST drummers are douches compared to him. Lemme
> see now.... I have seen Terry Clarke in Toronto, Buddy Rich in a
> shoot-
> out with Steven Gadd in Rochester NY. I have yet to see Carter
> Beauford, who has the edge on cool. Good drummers can be amazing, the
> rest suck.<G> (Present company not included.) Okay I guess Art Blakey
> sortakinda knows what he is doing.<G>
> <Nomex on>
> ---------------------------------
> Krupa.
>
> Lew

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Gene_Krupa.html

Gene Krupa was a very musical drummer. I liked watching Buddy Rich, but I'd
rather _listen_ to Gene.

One of my favorites from the old guard is Papa Jo Jones. Lots of people think
Buddy Rich was the "greatest", but I'm not sure there was anything Buddy did
that Papa Jo couldn't do too, and in fact Papa Jo was a big influence on Buddy.
Check out these clips, especially the solo from 1964:

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Papa_Joe_Jones.html

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in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

28/08/2010 8:56 PM

On 8/28/2010 4:13 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 28, 5:04 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
> .
>>
>> I can't say anything remotely negative about Neal, given what he's been
>> through, personally, over the last decade. I'll just say that I went
>> through that phase in high school and moved on to Jeff Porcaro. :-)
>>
>
> Did I miss Porcaro? Zack Starkey? Ringo? (I'm serious about Ringo,
> btw. After all, he was only the drummer for the best frickin' band
> ever!)<more Nomex>

Oh, I'm pretty sure you've heard Porcaro's playing... He was a huge presence
in the studio scene, which you probably already figure out from Mike's post.
Here are a few of his most well known performances:

Boz Scaggs - Lido Shuffle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s8l75Oxf1U

Boz Scaggs - Lowdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65EoK4OelZU

Toto - Rosanna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq4ychrRkQA

Michael Jackson - Beat It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtR914o7kZ4

Don Henley - Dirty Laundry
(couldn't find a decent link)

Elton John - Blue Eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anaO025OE-g

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Swingman

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

27/08/2010 4:40 PM

On 8/27/2010 4:10 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 8/27/10 2:19 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> Child prodigy? Maybe... :^)
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY
>
>
> That was a rough start, but man he really fell into a nice groove there.
> I hate how the audio and video never seem to sync up on youtube, though.
> ;-)

Yep ... and that magic hat with an amazing snappy snare sound! ;)

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Markem

in reply to GarageWoodworks on 27/08/2010 12:19 PM

29/08/2010 7:30 PM

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Aug 27, 7:27 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 8/27/10 6:02 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>
>> > On Aug 27, 2:19 pm, GarageWoodworks<[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Child prodigy?  Maybe...    :^)
>>
>> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9X_4juSKY
>>
>> > Gotta give credit to the "real" drummer:    :^)
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8XivbFvQ1E
>>
>> He's such a douche.
>>
>> --
>>
>>   -MIKE-
>>
>>   "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
>>      --Elvin Jones  (1927-2004)
>>   --
>>  http://mikedrums.com
>>   [email protected]
>>   ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>
>After watching Neil Peart at the Rush concert here in good old Sarnia
>a few weeks back....MOST drummers are douches compared to him. Lemme
>see now.... I have seen Terry Clarke in Toronto, Buddy Rich in a shoot-
>out with Steven Gadd in Rochester NY. I have yet to see Carter
>Beauford, who has the edge on cool. Good drummers can be amazing, the
>rest suck. <G> (Present company not included.) Okay I guess Art Blakey
>sortakinda knows what he is doing. <G>
><Nomex on>

But what about dead ones, Gene Kruppa......

::STIRRING::

Mark


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