Hiya Folks,
I've just gotten the gar...er shop cleaned up and need to build a few
things. I haven't gotten my cyclone dust collector built yet so in the
meantime, I was planning to just use my 2 1/2" diameter hose from my shopvac
to at least get the majority of the sawdust. I don't see any adapters that
go from 2 1/2" to 4" (dust ports on my tools). Are they available and I've
just not found them or is there another recommended way of doing this?
This is a temporary situation so I don't want to get too fancy with the
solution but thought there might be a simple adapter out there to use.
I've checked CPVC, PVC, ABS, etc.. pipe and they don't really fit very well.
Thanks for the inputs.
Cheers,
cc
Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 10:21am (EST-2) [email protected]
(James=A0"Cubby"=A0Culbertson) doth peer around and say:
<snip>=A0 I don't see any adapters that go from 2 1/2" to 4" (dust ports
on my tools) <snip>
Temporary? I've got one word for you. Duct tape.
JOAT
If it can't kill you, it ain't a sport.
Ron wrote:
> One thing I forgot to mention was, when you do get a regular dust collector,
> as I hope to do soon as well, keep the dust separator and connect the 4"
> hose
> from the DC to the dust separator lid, after removing the 4 to 2-1/2"
> adapter.
This only works up to a certain point, then the dust collector just
sucks the separator bin empty. Apparently this happens right around the
point that you're flowing enough air to get the really dangerous dust.
Chris
"Ron" <ronaldjangelATcomcastDOTnet> wrote in message
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>
> I've been doing the same for about a year now, mostly for my Delta planer,
> with good
> results.
>
> The biggest drawback of a shopvac (besides the noise) is that the filter
> can
> clog rather quickly,
> therefore, I'd recommend the following....
>
> Get a dust 'separator' which goes on a 30 gallon metal garbage can with
> two
> 4" ports, such as this..
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1515
>
> Alos, some 4" hose and a hose reducer (4" to 2-1/2) like this..
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16965
>
> I duct taped the reducer to one of the 4" ports on the dust separator and
> attach the shop-vacs hose to it.
>
> Connect a 4" hose to the other port and attach it to the tool of your
> choice.
>
> One Saturday recently, I decided to plane a lot of rough stock I had
> (ROak,
> WOak, Poplar and Cherry).
> I filled my 30 gallon twice that day but the shop vac was still basically
> empty. Some of the finer dust did make
> it too the filter, but, over 95% of the shavings stayed in the metal
> garbage
> can.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ron
Thanks Ron. I hadn't planned to get that "elaborate" but given "temporary"
tends to be a while for me, this sure seems like a good way to go actually.
I think I'll do it!
Cheers,
cc
"Ron" <ronaldjangelATcomcastDOTnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> One thing I forgot to mention was, when you do get a regular dust
> collector,
> as I hope to do soon as well, keep the dust separator and connect the 4"
> hose
> from the DC to the dust separator lid, after removing the 4 to 2-1/2"
> adapter.
>
> This was you'd fill you DC bag(s) less often and then whit just the finer
> stuff.
>
> Ron
I'll do that but don't think it'll work with my setup. I'm building an
airfoil cyclone and I suspect it'll have enough suction that'll it'll pull
everything out of the can, at least I hope so :). Time will tell though.
Thanks again for the ideas. I had completely forgotten about the
separator's etc...
Cheers,
cc
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 10:21am (EST-2) [email protected]
(James "Cubby" Culbertson) doth peer around and say:
<snip> I don't see any adapters that go from 2 1/2" to 4" (dust ports
on my tools) <snip>
Temporary? I've got one word for you. Duct tape.
But that's two words... :)
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ron" <ronaldjangelATcomcastDOTnet> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I've been doing the same for about a year now, mostly for my Delta
planer,
> > with good
> > results.
> >
> > The biggest drawback of a shopvac (besides the noise) is that the filter
> > can
> > clog rather quickly,
> > therefore, I'd recommend the following....
> >
> > Get a dust 'separator' which goes on a 30 gallon metal garbage can with
> > two
> > 4" ports, such as this..
> > http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1515
> >
> > Alos, some 4" hose and a hose reducer (4" to 2-1/2) like this..
> > http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16965
> >
> > I duct taped the reducer to one of the 4" ports on the dust separator
and
> > attach the shop-vacs hose to it.
> >
> > Connect a 4" hose to the other port and attach it to the tool of your
> > choice.
> >
> > One Saturday recently, I decided to plane a lot of rough stock I had
> > (ROak,
> > WOak, Poplar and Cherry).
> > I filled my 30 gallon twice that day but the shop vac was still
basically
> > empty. Some of the finer dust did make
> > it too the filter, but, over 95% of the shavings stayed in the metal
> > garbage
> > can.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Ron
>
> Thanks Ron. I hadn't planned to get that "elaborate" but given
"temporary"
> tends to be a while for me, this sure seems like a good way to go
actually.
> I think I'll do it!
> Cheers,
> cc
>
>
One thing I forgot to mention was, when you do get a regular dust collector,
as I hope to do soon as well, keep the dust separator and connect the 4"
hose
from the DC to the dust separator lid, after removing the 4 to 2-1/2"
adapter.
This was you'd fill you DC bag(s) less often and then whit just the finer
stuff.
Ron
Ron <ronaldjangelATcomcastDOTnet> wrote:
> Get a dust 'separator' which goes on a 30 gallon metal garbage . . .
I'll second the bit about a *metal* garbage can. I made one of
these 2nd stage collectors recently out of a plastic garbage can.
I've never had a DC or a made one of these collectors before, so
after I got everything together and connected I noticed the plastic
garbage can would start to pucker after a little while. Opps. :) I was
able to work around this a bit by cutting out a ring of plywood
and sticking that inside the plastic can. Now, for the most part
it doesn't pucker too much, but if I use it with my router table
the lid[1] will colapse sometimes. Oh well, I'll just use it until
it cracks and then I'll do it right with a metal can. :)
[1]: I didn't buy one of those pre-made "cyclone" lids, but used the
lid that came with the plastic garbage can and stuck 4" dust ports on
it.
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"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hiya Folks,
> I've just gotten the gar...er shop cleaned up and need to build a few
> things. I haven't gotten my cyclone dust collector built yet so in the
> meantime, I was planning to just use my 2 1/2" diameter hose from my
shopvac
> to at least get the majority of the sawdust. I don't see any adapters
that
> go from 2 1/2" to 4" (dust ports on my tools). Are they available and
I've
> just not found them or is there another recommended way of doing this?
> This is a temporary situation so I don't want to get too fancy with the
> solution but thought there might be a simple adapter out there to use.
> I've checked CPVC, PVC, ABS, etc.. pipe and they don't really fit very
well.
> Thanks for the inputs.
> Cheers,
> cc
>
>
I've been doing the same for about a year now, mostly for my Delta planer,
with good
results.
The biggest drawback of a shopvac (besides the noise) is that the filter can
clog rather quickly,
therefore, I'd recommend the following....
Get a dust 'separator' which goes on a 30 gallon metal garbage can with two
4" ports, such as this..
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1515
Alos, some 4" hose and a hose reducer (4" to 2-1/2) like this..
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16965
I duct taped the reducer to one of the 4" ports on the dust separator and
attach the shop-vacs hose to it.
Connect a 4" hose to the other port and attach it to the tool of your
choice.
One Saturday recently, I decided to plane a lot of rough stock I had (ROak,
WOak, Poplar and Cherry).
I filled my 30 gallon twice that day but the shop vac was still basically
empty. Some of the finer dust did make
it too the filter, but, over 95% of the shavings stayed in the metal garbage
can.
HTH,
Ron
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hiya Folks,
>> I've just gotten the gar...er shop cleaned up and need to build a few
>> things. I haven't gotten my cyclone dust collector built yet so in the
>> meantime, I was planning to just use my 2 1/2" diameter hose from my
>> shopvac to at least get the majority of the sawdust. I don't see any
>> adapters that go from 2 1/2" to 4" (dust ports on my tools). Are they
>> available and I've just not found them or is there another recommended
>> way of doing this? This is a temporary situation so I don't want to get
>> too fancy with the solution but thought there might be a simple adapter
>> out there to use. I've checked CPVC, PVC, ABS, etc.. pipe and they don't
>> really fit very well. Thanks for the inputs.
>> Cheers,
>> cc
>>
>>
>
> Just as I hit send, I thought of Grizzly. Sure enough they have this:
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/h2443
>
> I think that'll work for me!
>
Woodcraft and Rockler have the adapters too.
>
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hiya Folks,
> I've just gotten the gar...er shop cleaned up and need to build a few
> things. I haven't gotten my cyclone dust collector built yet so in the
> meantime, I was planning to just use my 2 1/2" diameter hose from my
> shopvac to at least get the majority of the sawdust. I don't see any
> adapters that go from 2 1/2" to 4" (dust ports on my tools). Are they
> available and I've just not found them or is there another recommended way
> of doing this? This is a temporary situation so I don't want to get too
> fancy with the solution but thought there might be a simple adapter out
> there to use. I've checked CPVC, PVC, ABS, etc.. pipe and they don't
> really fit very well. Thanks for the inputs.
> Cheers,
> cc
>
>
Just as I hit send, I thought of Grizzly. Sure enough they have this:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/h2443
I think that'll work for me!