On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:06:13 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Wild guesses
2515: Lousy can opener.
2516: Used for holes for seeds. Either that, or a very primitive sex
toy.
2517: Collapsible barrel for cannon
2518: Provides light on a ship. The cone at the bottom holds the fuel.
But where's the gimbal?
2519: No idea
2520: I would have guessed an umbrella stand, but I think those are
bigger than 16 inches.
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On Mar 28, 10:06=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2517. Gunpowder log splitter.
2518. Miner's Plummet - Plumb Bob Lamp.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/miners-plummet-plumb-bob-lamp-mining-=
miners
Karl
On Mar 29, 4:06=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2515 Motortcycle fender ornament
2516 is a cork borer
2517 holds gunpowder, you set it alight to fire a cannon off
2518 miner's plumb bob
2519 old slide hammer for pulling nails in an situation where you
cannot 'lever' them out....maybe from tiles or something
2520 used to splice something together...like two pieces of wood or
something?
--riverman
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> "Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > 2520 - Seems like some sort of animal trap, but how would you extract
> > the animal, once trapped.
>
> You could BBQ the animal right in the trap. Then just pick out the meat
> with your fingers. Just like the animals could pick out the bait with their
> paws in the first place. I doubt it's an animal trap.
> Art
Put the trap down the animal's hole.
No bait required.
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2517 is a simple stepped gauge for measuring or inspecting bored work.
Each step would have been marked with a size so the item being inspected
could be marked (say) "1.010-1.019", or "1.020-1.039", etc.
The bore in the center may or may not be a measuring hole. It could be
there simply to lighten the work, as are many of the step gauges I have.
2518 is boat lamp made to look like a surveyor's plumb bob.
2519 OLD combination slide hammer/dollying hammer; for sheet metal work.
2520 Looks designed to be stuffed full of something like hay or cotton
lint or wool.
It _sort_of_ looks like a trap for something about the size of a
muskrat, but has a lot of shortcomings for that application.
LLoyd
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> Not totally sure about the two mystery items but the others have been
> correctly identified, the answers have been posted here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-434.html#answers
>
>
I'm not good with 2520, Rob. As I mentioned in my guesses, unless your
goal is to lay the thing down on an ant hill after you catch the critter,
there's no visible way to get anything OUT of it! I was even hoping to
see that the rivet holes were slotted to permit moving an end ring far
enough in to release the hooked rails. But there's no evidence of that,
either in the hooked rails or the rings.
I'm guessing it's more likely something to trap a wad of meat or other
comestible for bait, making it impossible for the baited creature to
remove the contents.
I will admit, the first thing I thought is "one-way trap!", but it's not
a workable design.
LLoyd
"Rob H." <[email protected]> scribbled:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2516 - this is either a hole reaming tool or a left handed screw/bolt
extractor otherwise known as an ez-out
On Mar 29, 3:06=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2515. Hood ornament from a 193? Hudson Hawk
2516. Early EZ Out?
2517. No idea.
2518. Plumb Bob with a wick for night use?.
2519. Metal shaping hammer?
2520. Mole trap.
2515 While this looks like a decorative hood-ornament, I'd like to
think this is a bottle-opener... But... I can't see how it would work to
remove a standard crown seal. I still guess it is mounted somewhere and
used to open something.
2519 Slap Hammer. Old. I have a secondary problem, for those of you
who are skilled at forging or smithery: How was it made?
On 3/29/2012 4:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
On 3/29/2012 4:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
Here are my "guesses":
2519 - The one matching the one labeled 'C'
2518 - Plumb bob for use in the dark
2519 - Black smith tool for flattening or surfacing heavy metal
(non-musical).
2520 - Animal trap (beaver?)
Bill
Snag wrote:
> Don Piven wrote:
>> On 3/29/12 07:50, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> 2515 looks like a hood ornament for something
>>
>> Fender ornament on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle.
>
> Yup , a friend of mine has one just like that on his Harley . The eyes
> light up ...
Now only $15.95!
http://www.debrix.com/Eagle-Spirit-Fender-Ornaments-Harley-p/22936-m1.htm
:)
--Winston
Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2515 - Eagle Head fender ornament.
2516 - Bung expander.
2517 - Bore gauge - Each step would be a different size to show the size
of a hole.
2518 - Plummet Lamp ( plump bob used in dark areas like tunnels )
2519 - Very old tinsmiths hammer.The sliding weight can be used to drive
the handle and pierce metal.
2520 - Birth control device ????
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"Ted Schuerzinger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:06:13 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Wild guesses
>
> 2515: Lousy can opener.
> 2516: Used for holes for seeds. Either that, or a very primitive sex
> toy.
> 2517: Collapsible barrel for cannon
It's not collapsible but it _is_ the barrel of a hand cannon.
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 3/29/2012 4:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Here are my "guesses":
>
> 2519 - The one matching the one labeled 'C'
?
>
> 2518 - Plumb bob for use in the dark
>
> 2519 - Black smith tool for flattening or surfacing heavy metal
> (non-musical).
>
>
> 2520 - Animal trap (beaver?)
Animal trap is correct, not sure exactly what kind.
>
> Bill
Rob H. wrote:
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> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On 3/29/2012 4:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> Here are my "guesses":
>>
>> 2519 - The one matching the one labeled 'C'
>
> ?
Rob, I'm sorry for being cryptic. Since it had an 'H' prominantly
displaced on it, I thoought it had to half of a set of hot (H) and cold
(C) water fixtures.
Bill
>
>>
>> 2518 - Plumb bob for use in the dark
>>
>> 2519 - Black smith tool for flattening or surfacing heavy metal
>> (non-musical).
>>
>>
>> 2520 - Animal trap (beaver?)
>
>
> Animal trap is correct, not sure exactly what kind.
>
>
>>
>> Bill
>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>
>>> Here are my "guesses":
>>>
>>> 2519 - The one matching the one labeled 'C'
>>
>> ?
>
> Rob, I'm sorry for being cryptic. Since it had an 'H' prominantly
> displaced on it, I thoought it had to half of a set of hot (H) and cold
> (C) water fixtures.
>
> Bill
Now I get it! The eagle originally had H D on it but I shopped off the D
since it seemed too easy.
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-434.html#answers
>>
>>
>
> I'm not good with 2520, Rob. As I mentioned in my guesses, unless your
> goal is to lay the thing down on an ant hill after you catch the critter,
> there's no visible way to get anything OUT of it! I was even hoping to
> see that the rivet holes were slotted to permit moving an end ring far
> enough in to release the hooked rails. But there's no evidence of that,
> either in the hooked rails or the rings.
>
> I'm guessing it's more likely something to trap a wad of meat or other
> comestible for bait, making it impossible for the baited creature to
> remove the contents.
>
> I will admit, the first thing I thought is "one-way trap!", but it's not
> a workable design.
>
> LLoyd
That's what it was marked at the auction where I took the photo but I'm sure
it's possible that it was tagged incorrectly. I just sent a photo of it to
a guy that runs a trap museum, I'll be interested to hear what he has to say
about it and will let everyone know when he replies.
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-434.html#answers
> I'm not good with 2520, Rob. As I mentioned in my guesses, unless your
> goal is to lay the thing down on an ant hill after you catch the critter,
> there's no visible way to get anything OUT of it! I was even hoping to
> see that the rivet holes were slotted to permit moving an end ring far
> enough in to release the hooked rails. But there's no evidence of that,
> either in the hooked rails or the rings.
One of the long pieces with a hook was loose on one end and no longer
attached to the ring, so it could pivot in either direction, I thought it
was broken but maybe it was made to be this way so the animal could be
removed, and was temporarily attached when the trap was set.
Here is the response that I got from the trap expert:
"I have not seen another of this but could be a wicked rat trap. Rat could
go in from either end but could not get out. Not sure but it looks like a
great piece."
-----
I think it might be too big to trap a rat, I was guessing maybe it was for a
woodchuck, anyway, looks like no solid answer for now.
> I'm guessing it's more likely something to trap a wad of meat or other
> comestible for bait, making it impossible for the baited creature to
> remove the contents.
Sounds plausible but I haven't been able to find any similar bait holders to
verify this idea.
> I will admit, the first thing I thought is "one-way trap!", but it's not
> a workable design.
If it is a trap then I would agree that it's not a great design, but I've
seen a number of tools that weren't well thought out so it could just be a
poorly designed trap. I would bet this item was not mass produced, if it
was the trap expert would have recognized it. If this is the only one of
its type in existence then it will be almost impossible to prove one way or
the other what it is.
I'm going to stick with the trap answer for now, if the trap expert had
suggested it was a bait holder then I would go along with it, but I'm always
open to other ideas if anyone finds evidence to the contrary.
Rob
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 2520 - Seems like some sort of animal trap, but how would you extract
> the animal, once trapped.
You could BBQ the animal right in the trap. Then just pick out the meat
with your fingers. Just like the animals could pick out the bait with their
paws in the first place. I doubt it's an animal trap.
Art
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:06:13 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
2516: reamer
2515 looks like a hood ornament for something
2516 barrel hole (bung) expander
2517 barrel from a small cannon
2518 I was thinking plumb bob, until I saw the wick. More likely an indoor
lamp.
2519 a hammer with a cancerous thyroid. Lot of them after Chernobyl nuclear
power plant accident.
2520 either a medeival toilet paper holder, or a crawfish trap. Some what
like a lobstah pot from Maine.
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Rob
On 2012-03-29, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2515) This looks to me like a hood ornament -- though whether it
came with the vehicle or was a third-party option, I don't know.
2516) This would appear to be a tool for splitting wood. Drill a
hole in the wood just a little larger than the pilot on the end
and then start screwing it in, expanding the wood around the
hole, and eventually splitting it.
2517) This looks like a homebrew cannon -- minus the trunions for
support and leveling, which could be made as part of a ring
which could be shrink-fitted to the barrel.
The touchhole for the fuse is visible in the third view. The
taper is to give greater strength at the end where the powder is
detonated.
2518) Gimbal mounted and chain hung -- I think that it is likely to
be a lamp for use in a boat.
I'm not sure why the hardened point, however.
2519) An early example of a slide-hammer, where the sliding ball
(or usually cylinder) is used to impact force to the workpiece.
Is there a fork in the "claw" curved part? If so, it is for
pulling nails or something similar (I guess that without a fork,
it could be used for pulling staples.
Otherwise, it could be held with the left-hand end in contact
with the workpiece, and held by the head, as the sliding ball
drives the left-hand end into the workpiece.
2520) Looks like a trap of some sort. Given that the material
appears to be iron or steel, probably not a fish or eel trap,
but more likely for something of the size of a squirrel or just
a little larger. It can climb in squeezing past the curve of
the hooks, but when it tries to exit, it can't get past them.
Now to post this and see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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> On 3/29/2012 4:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
[ ... ]
On 2012-03-29, Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2515 While this looks like a decorative hood-ornament, I'd like to
> think this is a bottle-opener... But... I can't see how it would work to
> remove a standard crown seal. I still guess it is mounted somewhere and
> used to open something.
I agree with the hood ornament -- or as someone else said,
possibly for a motorcycle or even a bicycle fender.
> 2519 Slap Hammer. Old. I have a secondary problem, for those of you
> who are skilled at forging or smithery: How was it made?
I am not skilled (actually, never done it), but at a guess, it
was made by forge welding two parts of the shaft together -- at a guess,
at one of the two places where the diameter increases to stop the
weight/ball's travel. I think the left-hand one, but I'm not sure.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2012-04-03, usablevirus <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> scribbled:
>
>> I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> 2516 - this is either a hole reaming tool or a left handed screw/bolt
> extractor otherwise known as an ez-out
I have to vote "no" on both of these options.
1) Reaming requires cutting flutes, and reamers are typically
either parallel to the axis, or have a very shallow angle.
Certainly not as steep as this one has. This is closer to a
wood screw, except for the constantly growing diameter at the
root of the thread.
2) EZ-outs have a very shallow angle too, aside from my never
having seen one made for left-handed screws. The shallow angle
is to draw it in fast to where it jams. You don't want the
mechanical advantage that comes with the long screw as that
would work harder at expanding the screw inside the hole (thus
defeating the purpose) instead of trying to get a bite which
will remove the screw. (EZ-outs have enough problem with
expanding the screw, and are thus usually a terrible choice
anyway, as they tend to get wedged in place and then break of,
and are harder to drill out than the original screw. :-)
What this appears to be for is to screw into the end of a chunk
of log, forcing it to split. Trying to use it to pull almost anything
would be problematical, as it would make whatever it was expand and
wedge in place.
Enjoy,
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>I need some help with the second and fifth items in this week's set:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2518 Precursor to the laser plumb-bob