On Jan 28, 7:00=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
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>
> Rob
1839 - used for skimming leaves from the surface of
a swimming pool?
John
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:00:21 -0500, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Another set has been posted on the web site:
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>
WAG at 1840 Farriers Rasp?
Rob H. wrote:
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> "John Husvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> 1841: "Float," for removing sharp wear points from horses' teeth by
>> filing: adjustable for doing upper and lower jaws.
>
>
> This is correct.
>
> Several people have guessed that 1840 is for the same purpose but it's
> not, though they look somewhat similar.
>
> Rob
1840: For ruffing up a tire or tube before patching
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> Rob
1837 clock pendulum made to resemble a more expensive mercury filled type.
Steve R.
Dave__67 wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 7:00 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Another set has been posted on the web site:
> >
> > http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Rob
>
> 1842- hmmm, audio bannana plug, metal box, switch, wire....
>
> I want to say the wire is an antenna, but that only makes sense if the
> box is a radio designed to feed audio to something,
> No tuner or volume knob visible...
>
> I'm going to go with it's a receiver for a wireless microphone,
> designed to jack into an input on a PA amplifier.
More likely a transmitter for a guitar. If it was used at the
amplifier it would be powered from a wall wart instead of batteries and
have no need for a switch. From the style, it is probably on the FM
broadcast band. The design looks mid '60s.
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Bill wrote:
>
> Bill wrote:
> > Rob H. wrote:
> >> Another set has been posted on the web site:
> >>
> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob
>
> 1842: An old sensor to indicate when a door is ajar, with an on/off
> switch (for a burglar alarm)?
Explain the reason for the 1/4" phone plug.
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Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Michael A. Terrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >Bill wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill wrote:
> >> > Rob H. wrote:
> >> >> Another set has been posted on the web site:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Rob
> >>
> >> 1842: An old sensor to indicate when a door is ajar, with an on/off
> >> switch (for a burglar alarm)?
> >
> >
> > Explain the reason for the 1/4" phone plug.
>
> It was for momma bear -- 1/2" was too big, and 5/32" was too small.
There are no 1/2" or 5/32" Phone plugs. They were made in .25" .206 "
.141" .125" 3/32" & .101".
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>>1840 - A wood rasp, used for the inside of a bowl,
>>spoon, or other concave surfaces.
>
>
> It is for use on wood but not for these purposes.
>
>
> Rob
A side float? But if it is, it looks like it was never sharpened.
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> "Ed Huntress" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>>1840 - A wood rasp, used for the inside of a bowl,
>>>>spoon, or other concave surfaces.
>>>
>>>
>>> It is for use on wood but not for these purposes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> A side float? But if it is, it looks like it was never sharpened.
>
>
> Nope, it's used with wood but the user wasn't really what I would call a
> woodworker.
I hate to guess, but one last one: A shredder for making wood excelsior? (A
Hail-Mary pass, because machines for making the stuff were around by the
1860s.)
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>> A side float? But if it is, it looks like it was never sharpened.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, it's used with wood but the user wasn't really what I would call a
>>> woodworker.
>>
>> I hate to guess, but one last one: A shredder for making wood excelsior?
>> (A Hail-Mary pass, because machines for making the stuff were around by
>> the 1860s.)
>
>
>
> That's not it, I'll give a better hint, it was used by a shoemaker.
>
>
> Rob
Oh, one more one more. <g> A last-maker's rasp?
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>>> That's not it, I'll give a better hint, it was used by a shoemaker.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> Oh, one more one more. <g> A last-maker's rasp?
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>
>
> Nope, it's for use on small pieces of wood.
>
>
> Rob
Now I'm in for a dollar and can't give up. <g> Shaping heels?
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>
>>> Nope, it's for use on small pieces of wood.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> Now I'm in for a dollar and can't give up. <g> Shaping heels?
>
>
> You're in the right area but it's not for shaping heels.
I admire your patience, Rob. <g> However, I'll make one last guess: A rasp
for shaping shoe trees?
Now I yield for good on this one. I'm just guessing, and I should just let
someone who has a reasonable idea carry on.
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On 2010-01-29 17:45:21 -0500, "Rob H." <[email protected]> said:
> The rest of the answers can be seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/01/set-321.html#answers
The first picture below 1840 identifies a whole handful of tools found
in my father's stuff. Since he was not a shoemaker, I'm going to have
to guess they were the result of some antiquing. Still got a few that
are puzzling me!
1837: a clock (or similar device) pendulum
1838: scary
1839: I was thinking some sort of coal scuttle (like a bed warmer), but
there's no lid. so that leaves draining extremely hot spaghetti at arms
reach...or something--
1840: some sort of branding iron?
1841: a callous/dead-skin scraper for feet?
1842: some sort of short-range RF-to-Audio transducer. Whether receiver or
transmitter, can't say. No label on the front of it? (this is obviously
the "working back panel")
If pressed, I would say "receiver" for a remote mic that would plug into a
camera before the era of what the TV types call electronic news gathering(
say, 1970s, news camera audio receiver)
...or similar receiver for a PA system.
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> Richard Heathfield <[email protected]> wrote:
>> `
>> How could *I* possibly be wrong?
>
> I'll suggest three factors that likely contribute:
> 1) innate ability,
> 2) extensive training,
> 3) *diligent* practice.
<grin> I don't think I've ever received any specific training on being
wrong, but the other two certainly apply.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Michael A. Terrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Bill wrote:
>>
>> Bill wrote:
>> > Rob H. wrote:
>> >> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>> >>
>> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>>
>> 1842: An old sensor to indicate when a door is ajar, with an on/off
>> switch (for a burglar alarm)?
>
>
> Explain the reason for the 1/4" phone plug.
It was for momma bear -- 1/2" was too big, and 5/32" was too small.
*GRIN*
In article <[email protected]>,
pavane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>| Another set has been posted on the web site:
>|
>| http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>1839 is a bedwarmer, I think...
*unlikely* to be a bedwarmer.
"Coal (or wood) fired" bedwarmers almost have a solid bottom, _and_ a vented
cover on the top.
The -last- thing you want is the embers getting out of the warmer and setting
the bed on fire!
In article <[email protected]>,
Richard Heathfield <[email protected]> wrote:
>`
>How could *I* possibly be wrong?
I'll suggest three factors that likely contribute:
1) innate ability,
2) extensive training,
3) *diligent* practice.
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
| Another set has been posted on the web site:
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| http://55tools.blogspot.com/
1839 is a bedwarmer, I think...
pavane
On Jan 28, 7:00=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
I would venture to say that 1838 is a tool designed to move blocks of
ice from a frozen pond at the time that ice was collected from frozen
ponds and kept for future use. The tool would allow floating blocks to
be stabbed and pulled onto the ice, or moved around with the other end
of the tool.
At least, I think so.
Pierre
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:52:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Dave__67 wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 28, 7:00 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Another set has been posted on the web site:
>> >
>> > http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> > Rob
>>
>> 1842- hmmm, audio bannana plug, metal box, switch, wire....
>>
>> I want to say the wire is an antenna, but that only makes sense if the
>> box is a radio designed to feed audio to something,
>> No tuner or volume knob visible...
>>
>> I'm going to go with it's a receiver for a wireless microphone,
>> designed to jack into an input on a PA amplifier.
>
>
> More likely a transmitter for a guitar. If it was used at the
>amplifier it would be powered from a wall wart instead of batteries and
>have no need for a switch. From the style, it is probably on the FM
>broadcast band. The design looks mid '60s.
I think you're right - it certainly has the parts in the right places
;-)
John
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On Jan 28, 7:00=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1840 - A wood rasp, used for the inside of a bowl,
spoon, or other concave surfaces.
John
On Jan 28, 7:00=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1839: Another ice tool. This one is used to skim the slush and ice
out of ice-fishing holes.
John Martin
Rob H. wrote:
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1837: Thunderbird 3 concept model
1838: Battle-comb, the last Viking word in aggressive hairdressing
1839: Colander for people who can't stand the smell of boiled cabbage
1840: Golf club for the vertically challenged
1841: Adjustable cheese grater
1842: Early 60s quiz show buzzer
Please don't bother to suggest that any of the above might be incorrect.
How could *I* possibly be wrong?
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>
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1837. weight for clock pendulum
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On Jan 28, 7:00 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
I would venture to say that 1838 is a tool designed to move blocks of
ice from a frozen pond at the time that ice was collected from frozen
ponds and kept for future use. The tool would allow floating blocks to
be stabbed and pulled onto the ice, or moved around with the other end
of the tool.
At least, I think so.
Pierre
You stole my thunder. It definitely looks like some sort of ice tool.
Steve
On Jan 28, 7:00=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1842- hmmm, audio bannana plug, metal box, switch, wire....
I want to say the wire is an antenna, but that only makes sense if the
box is a radio designed to feed audio to something,
No tuner or volume knob visible...
I'm going to go with it's a receiver for a wireless microphone,
designed to jack into an input on a PA amplifier.
Dave
In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
My guesses, rather lacking in actual knowledge this time around...
1837 - Lamp, possibly? Spinning thingy? It's quite strange looking to
me, really.
1838 - Some sort of a material handling tool; I'm guessing for wood at a
sawmill or pulpmill, although it could perhaps be to manipulate ice
blocks at an ice house. (Most of the movies and pictures I've seen of
ice harvests have just used pointy sticks or a near equivalent, though.)
1839 - Fish scoop of some sort?
1840 - Rasp, possibly for use in timber framing?
1841 - Fancier, more modern, adjustable, and probably less effective
version of 1840?
1842 - Almost certainly either a radio transmitter or receiver for use
in a (presumably short distance) wireless audio link; I rather fancy
it's a transmitter, for use with an electric guitar, but that's mostly a
guess. Looks possibly homemade. Disassembly (presumably with the one
screw) and inspection by a local electronics guru would probably reveal
what there is to be revealed...including, possibly, some dead leaking
batteries.
Now to read other ideas....
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Rob H. wrote:
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>
>
> Rob
1839: The drainage looks too slow to use for dipping. I think it's a
coin collection basket, perhaps for toll booths. The tin would let the
payer and the collector hear when the coins hit the basket. The
perforations would be in case the basket was passed through water
running off a roof.
E Z Peaces wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 1839: The drainage looks too slow to use for dipping.
Maybe so E.Z., but I would rather cook with it than collect coins with
it! : )
Bill
I think it's a
> coin collection basket, perhaps for toll booths. The tin would let the
> payer and the collector hear when the coins hit the basket. The
> perforations would be in case the basket was passed through water
> running off a roof.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>> 1842: An old sensor to indicate when a door is ajar, with an on/off
>> switch (for a burglar alarm)?
>
>
> Explain the reason for the 1/4" phone plug.
>
Hmmm..it's that's what that is, I'm at a loss. Frustrating! : )
Bill
"John Husvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
>
> 1841: "Float," for removing sharp wear points from horses' teeth by
> filing: adjustable for doing upper and lower jaws.
This is correct.
Several people have guessed that 1840 is for the same purpose but it's not,
though they look somewhat similar.
Rob
"Markem" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:00:21 -0500, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Another set has been posted on the web site:
>>
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> WAG at 1840 Farriers Rasp?
No, but the person who would have used it was in a trade that was slightly
related to a farrier (not blacksmith).
Rob
"Ed Huntress" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>>>1840 - A wood rasp, used for the inside of a bowl,
>>>spoon, or other concave surfaces.
>>
>>
>> It is for use on wood but not for these purposes.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> A side float? But if it is, it looks like it was never sharpened.
Nope, it's used with wood but the user wasn't really what I would call a
woodworker.
>>> A side float? But if it is, it looks like it was never sharpened.
>>
>>
>> Nope, it's used with wood but the user wasn't really what I would call a
>> woodworker.
>
> I hate to guess, but one last one: A shredder for making wood excelsior?
> (A Hail-Mary pass, because machines for making the stuff were around by
> the 1860s.)
That's not it, I'll give a better hint, it was used by a shoemaker.
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> Nope, it's for use on small pieces of wood.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> Now I'm in for a dollar and can't give up. <g> Shaping heels?
>
>
> You're in the right area but it's not for shaping heels.
>
>
>
How about for helping to clean off your shoes before you come into the
house (after a hard day working on the cattle or horse ranch)...
Bill
Steve B wrote:
> "pierre" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jan 28, 7:00 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Another set has been posted on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> I would venture to say that 1838 is a tool designed to move blocks of
> ice from a frozen pond at the time that ice was collected from frozen
> ponds and kept for future use. The tool would allow floating blocks to
> be stabbed and pulled onto the ice, or moved around with the other end
> of the tool.
>
> At least, I think so.
>
> Pierre
>
> You stole my thunder. It definitely looks like some sort of ice tool.
>
> Steve
>
>
Come on out to Millers Mills, Valentines day and you can USE ice
harvesting tools.
http://millersmillsny.com/
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> I admire your patience, Rob. <g> However, I'll make one last guess: A
> rasp for shaping shoe trees?
>
> Now I yield for good on this one. I'm just guessing, and I should just let
> someone who has a reasonable idea carry on.
I'll go ahead and give the answer, wood pegs were used to attach the heel,
the pegs would stick up above the insole and this tool was used to cut off
and smooth the end of the peg. Hard to guess unless you know how shoes used
to be constructed, I'll have some photos of the pegs on the answer page.
Rob
>I would venture to say that 1838 is a tool designed to move blocks of
>ice from a frozen pond at the time that ice was collected from frozen
>ponds and kept for future use. The tool would allow floating blocks to
>be stabbed and pulled onto the ice, or moved around with the other end
>of the tool.
>At least, I think so.
>Pierre
Correct, it's a tool for use on an ice farm.
Thanks to everyone who helped answer the guitar transmitter, still not sure
about the tool with the long handle. The rest of the answers can be seen
here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/01/set-321.html#answers
Rob
"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2010-01-29 17:45:21 -0500, "Rob H." <[email protected]> said:
>
>> The rest of the answers can be seen here:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/01/set-321.html#answers
>
> The first picture below 1840 identifies a whole handful of tools found in
> my father's stuff. Since he was not a shoemaker, I'm going to have to
> guess they were the result of some antiquing. Still got a few that are
> puzzling me!
I just updated the answer page to say that the ten similar looking tools
that are lined up vertically are burnishers for use on the edge of a shoe
sole. Feel free to send me some photos of your unidentified tools, I'd be
happy to take a look at them and possibly include them on the web site.
Rob
In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
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>
>
> Rob
1841: "Float," for removing sharp wear points from horses' teeth by
filing: adjustable for doing upper and lower jaws.
I will try
1837 compensating weight for pedulum clock. When the iron support rods
warmed up the mercury in the container would compensate.
1938 Do not know, but I want one.
1839 For collecting money, be it in a church or toll booth.
1840 Float or file for horse' teeth
1841 newer style of float
1842 Not a clue
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> Rob
On 2010-01-28, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
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Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1837) This looks like a mercury-bob pendulum for a mantel clock.
(Too small for a grandfather clock.) The different thermal
coefficient of expansion between the steel, brass, and mercury
tended to cancel out change in frequency of the pendulum.
1838) I don't know what it is -- but I *do* know which end of that I
don't want to be on. :-)
I guess that it might be for penetrating the surface of
something -- if the angle of the handle were different, I would
think that it was for aerating soil for plants.
Hmm ... perhaps for breaking up asphalt or something similar?
1839) Looks as though it is for scooping out food from deep frying.
I think that the bowl is aluminum. If it were a higher melting
point alloy, I would consider it for skimming dross from metal
melts for casting.
1840) It looks as though it had once been a wood rasp with an
interesting handle -- but it iis certainly too dull to be
useful for that purpose now.
1841) Actually -- quite similar to 1840, except that the file part is
replaceable when it dulls. Could both of these have come from
the same collection by any chance?
1842) This appears to me to be a radio transmitter for an RF link
from a musical instrument to the sound reenforcement (PA)
system, to allow the musician to play without being tethered by a
wire to the mix board. It has a battery inside, and must be
turned on just prior to plugging into the instrument. At a
guess, it would work with accordions, or electric guitars.
I'm not sure whether the form factor would work with many other
instruments.
Now to see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>> Another set has been posted on the web site:
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>>>
>>>
>
> It appears to have a user-friendly grip. Is item
> #1837 an ancestor of the modern ball-point pen?
>
>
> Bill
1837 looks like a door horn. you pull the top handle upwards, then release
to make a moo sound
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1839
A filing cabinet, move the junk from in front of it
and it can be used to store important papers in some
semblance of order.
basilisk
Absolutely no background, but I think that you have nailed that one.
Perfect for the job.
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On Jan 28, 7:00 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted on the web site:
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>
> Rob
1839: Another ice tool. This one is used to skim the slush and ice
out of ice-fishing holes.
John Martin